Wednesday Night Open Thread: Vegas Believes Kansas City Is A Likely Landing Spot For DeAndre Hopkins

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Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:23 pm

on to Cleveland the Senate

Nasrani
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:32 pm
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 8:34 pm
WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 10:02 pm

oh good. now the government can continue to spend money at an astonishing rate. The print shops at the mint cant make the shit fast enough. Gotta make sure we can send a few more 100s of billions to Ukraine to stay involved in a war we have no business in. Well, actually, so we can send money to defense contractors so they can send grossly overpriced shit overseas. Anybody remember Eisenhower? Remember what he said? Well, he couldnt have been more right.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  WaywerdSon
05/31/2023 10:37 pm

Isolationism. Worked well with Hitler.

pompano
05/31/2023 8:16 pm

look familiar EAFOX?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 8:17 pm

only a Titan is intrigued

hoosierchief
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:34 pm

too small

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  hoosierchief
05/31/2023 8:44 pm

something from the Lord of the rings

rock monsters?

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 8:18 pm

EAFOX…. Nvm. You already know

BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:08 pm

Howdy, y’all. Yeah, I’m still hanging around distantly, but I hope that the content I’ve put together has been welcome, at least. I’ll try to keep that up, at least.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:11 pm

Good Evening 🙂

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:22 pm

So it is. Got some things looking up for me, including my pilot cottage-commercial batch of BBQ rub. I’ve been generous in giving it out to friends and others I know, and heard a lot of “I would pay for that” comments, so here I am. Came out to a bit under 2# of it, and I have 7 repurposed spice shaker bottles of it ready to go.

I will talk to my customers for the first sale, explaining the factors in my pricing, and I’ll listen to their feedback, but they’ve all said that the price range it’s in the middle of would be fair. I actually had to work hard to talk myself into selling it for a reasonable markup, too.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:25 pm

you are definitely talking to the middle upper customer 🙂

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:57 pm

Um, “the middle upper customer”? I hope that’s a compliment of some sort, but I dunno.

That said, I initially gave away samples to folks I actually like, so I really do value their opinions on cost/value, so I’m going to explain how I arrived at the price to them, because of a feature that sets it aside from commercial rubs: I don’t add salt. That allows you to salt the target as you see fit, then shake on the flavor. Salt is cheap filler anyway, so you’re really buying a concentrate of the good stuff.

I developed it with chicken and pork in mind, but I’ve heard of it being enjoyed on things from steaks to fish to fried to veggies. So with that in mind, my tentative brand name will be “[BRaG’s*] Magic Dust”, and ten quatloos to the first one to place that reference. The slogan’s penciled in as “The magic’s in how you choose to use it!”. *Y’all know me, I don’t use my actual name openly on the internet.

I may even add a disclaimer: Not responsible for poor magical procedure, lol. Yeah, big talk for a nobody, but why not? I may get some orders online, my Eldest volunteered to handle that end, so we’ll see. After today, I see the need for a better system to produce it in more bulk, but I have some ideas to improve the next batch. Time will tell.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:58 pm

That reply wasn’t just to Steve, of course. There are still those here who’re interested in my doings and such.

vvet818
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 9:04 pm

star trek i believe

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  vvet818
05/31/2023 9:05 pm

Nope, but a reasonable guess. One hint: Think Christmas.

hoosierchief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:38 pm

good to hear you up and about again.

Nasrani
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:15 pm

It’s been welcome, and it’s been great to see you, even infrequently. More importantly I hope you are doing well.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 8:24 pm

Thank you, and see below. There’s more positive news, but that would take a letter. Maybe if I heard from you soon? 😉

Nasrani
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:34 pm

Did I not email you? I’m sorry, I thought I did. Maybe it “saved as a draft” instead of sending.

It’s been crazy in the life of Nasrani for these last couple weeks. I’ll kick one your way tomorrow, but for now I need to duck out of here.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 8:42 pm

Nah, just messin’ with you. I’m the one who owes you, but you could initiate a bit more, hey?

Peace, my friend.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:17 pm

Howdy, and yes it has. Thanks for doing it. I’m always happy to see you even if I’m just lurking. Please stay as long as you feel it is cathartic or even therapeutic.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Team Player
05/31/2023 8:27 pm

And I appreciate your support, because it’s community support that keeps me going. I think it’s clear at this point that I’m not after a sea of personal fans, so the support of those who understand that means more, too. Thank you back.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:01 pm

time to vote

Team Player
Team Player
05/31/2023 7:57 pm

The thing with Nuke is he isn’t going to sign for $$$…anything he gets is offset against what the Cardinals are already paying him to not be on their team. And he is going to want to screw them hard. (I would too, to be fair)

So it comes down to fit. If the salary is a veteran’s minimum, it’s who he thinks will love him most and get a ring while doing it.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Team Player
05/31/2023 7:59 pm

the Chiefs are more than willing to pay with a ton of acheivable incentives

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:00 pm

we do need to re-sign Chris Jones to make it happen

kcfreak725
05/31/2023 7:41 pm

There are a lot of Texans fans who want D-Hop back. While I understand why, I think that’s incredibly unlikely, especially if he wants a ring. Same with the Lions. Yes, they’re up-and-comers and they very well could be contenders if they continue on their trajectory, but I think that’s still a couple of years out, and D-Hop ain’t getting younger.

Last edited 3 months ago by kcfreak725
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  kcfreak725
05/31/2023 7:43 pm

just asking would an up and coming team want to disrupt their developement for a stop gap player

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:44 pm

the Chiefs have gotten a lot younger at WR talent

unproven and cheap

hoosierchief
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:42 pm

I think andy has learned how to simplify the offense a little bit and get them productive sooner too.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  hoosierchief
05/31/2023 9:17 pm

You may have a point, but I suspect that WRs train in faster these days because he now has his culture and system fully installed, and has a supporting cast that’s elite, right down to Mahomes. Everyone helps everyone else get better, nobody toys with rivalry sabotage. The freedom of having a top-notch staff allows Reid to better plan out training emphasis and role/play designs for them.

Having subordinates you can trust to handle things the way you want them after they’ve been told the plan outline are priceless. Detailed instructions ensure conformity, but also limit independent creativity and restrict peak performance. I favor the first system, and my teams have always been high-performers because of it.

Sorry for the BRaG-tastic philosophy, but also not sorry. This is me doing me, after all. Maybe I should team up with Ed Hochuli…

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:47 pm

Maybe, A good leader in the locker room would be beneficial for the rookies.

paulkcc
paulkcc
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 7:53 pm

From what I’ve read, there’s some question about how good a locker room presence Hopkins is.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  paulkcc
05/31/2023 7:58 pm

yep

rip58
Reply to  paulkcc
05/31/2023 8:02 pm

He didn’t pacifically mention D-Hop in the question, So for talking about him yes I would not probably want him running my wide receiver room

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Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:34 pm

lets go

99 days?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:35 pm

haha

Lions
Tigers (Jags)
Bears

pffffft

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:38 pm

damn

then Aaron Rodgers and his flying monkeys

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:04 pm

the debt limit vote will be occuring sometime in the next few hours

Nasrani
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:07 pm

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Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 7:13 pm

well true

but our debt was built in a lot of different ways

think about it this way

The US is a bank that can print money, unlike say Turkey where inflation is near 100 percent per year

Our bank as long as we pay our debts (like all of us do every month) can support the debt

course we could spend less on all the newest military gadgets and/or ask those that have more than can conceivably be ever needed in wealth to pay a little more

Nasrani
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:14 pm

It’s also easy to blame one party or another, but the truth isn’t so black and white:

Obama inherited the presidency on the heels of the 2008 banking/financial crisis/recession.
Trump had to deal with COVID, which meant more spending.

These are just two recent examples.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 7:20 pm

I cannot even fathom what the Russian economy is right now

they produce a lot of Oil and Gas and both commodities are in the serious decline

hoosierchief
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:15 pm

but, printing more money means inflation, so its like an increase in taxes to everyone regardless of their tax bracket.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  hoosierchief
05/31/2023 7:18 pm

true

but how would you feel if you were a Turkish citizen

I know I don’t like the hike after hike after hike in interest rates

my debt costs more to support

but it will be worth it in a few years for those able to invest in any way

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:13 pm

Inflation steals from the poor first. I don’t think the uber-1% of DC politicians have grasped that since Clinton-Gingrich.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/31/2023 8:21 pm

But that’s /inflation/. Not the office holder. Washington was built on blamestorming

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Team Player
05/31/2023 8:23 pm

and spending

hoosierchief
Reply to  Team Player
05/31/2023 8:50 pm

inflation isn’t just a random thing… it happens for a reason. when you have so much money in a bucket, then add more, it has to get diluted. if an economy is growing like crazy and demanding more money, you can get away with more spending without a large increase of inflation, but if its slow, putting more money in only makes it worse.

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:11 pm

should pass House tonight and Senate tomorrow or Friday

in theory

pompano
05/31/2023 6:48 pm

pompano
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 6:55 pm

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:00 pm

haha

observing quietly can cost a fortune

I find watching the zoo just living around my house is awesome and the beer is cheap

upamtn
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:02 pm

about the dumbest thing ever …

kid at 10 yrs old “hey Dad, wanna play ball?” or whatever

or if it’s a girl “Mr Pacino, I’d like to date your daughter” … “Say hello to my little friend!”

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:02 pm

spent 15 bucks at a bar covering 1.5 hours

could have nearly bought a 30 pack

upamtn
05/31/2023 6:10 pm

Vegas is wrong

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/31/2023 6:32 pm

vegans are wrong….

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 5:45 pm
upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:10 pm

love ve Little Big Town

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 5:42 pm

seems to me that Hopkins will maybe get the veteran min deal with a ton of incentives

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:12 pm

maybe … would be good for some team but more than likely he’s gonna want Odell Beckham money, and KC can’t come close to that (some other team might)

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/31/2023 6:15 pm

was said that the OBJ deal killed the Chiefs interest in a trade for him

seems odd that we now don’t have to trade for him, that the money might make more sense for a year

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 7:06 pm

rather have a few million left in case team needs a mid season warm body

besides, Hopkins would mean less time for Moore or Toney or Ross to develop, he ain’t gonna play if he has a hangnail AND I f he was “all that” why did none of the teams he was on do well?

hoosierchief
Reply to  upamtn
05/31/2023 6:44 pm

I dont think at this point in the offseason that anyone could offer that kind of money.

upamtn
Reply to  hoosierchief
05/31/2023 7:10 pm

right? some team MAYBE …

Cleveland I hope he goes to Cleveland and hooks up with Watson, and together they MIGHT manage 6 wins

Nasrani
05/31/2023 5:30 pm

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Nasrani
05/31/2023 5:30 pm

I will remember you
Your silhouette will charge the view
Of distant atmosphere
Call it morning driving through the sound and even in the valley

rip58
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 5:35 pm

You’ll think of me … ya, I know it’s country.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 5:39 pm

I have converted you!!!!!!

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 5:52 pm

Beautiful song…

You care what game? Tickets around 700 ea, Daughter wants to come I think, think the bears game is 9/24 but I don’t care.. think we paid 280 a seat in 2018 .. it’s getting crazy..

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 5:58 pm

sounds alright to me

that was 3 super bowls ago 🙂

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:02 pm

I know .. they’re going to price is out after three more….

Thinking casino again maybe, she wants to do that .. 😩 ugh

Last edited 3 months ago by rip58
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:11 pm

haha

Power and Light to Union Station?

the new rail lines are being built as we speak extending all the way past Westport to the Plaza

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:15 pm

Yes definitely through union station and then down to power and light

rip58
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:21 pm

So bears game good 9/24 3:25 game , if so I’ll holler at Wichita and get the ball rolling before prices go up..

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:31 pm

Sounds good

upamtn
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:14 pm

700 … dollars???

rip58
Reply to  upamtn
05/31/2023 6:14 pm

Ya, you finally in this year old man ?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:21 pm

you met Sean my coworker at the initial Raiders game we met at….

He took his parents to dinner total of 11 in the party for their 40th anniversary

801 Chophouse

https://www.bing.com/search?q=803%20chop%20house%20in%20kansas%20city&pc=0ASL&ptag=C21N0013AF5A25A5E43&form=CONBNT&conlogo=CT3210127

guess the bill?

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:22 pm

1,700.00

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:23 pm

6 K

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:24 pm

Holly Molly ….. that’s crazy.. 😂😂

rip58
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:25 pm

Spend that kind of money on something that just turns to shit in 8 hrs ……..😜

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:27 pm

haha

sometimes the Chiefs game turns to shit before it ends:(

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:26 pm

He loves his parents 🙂

Tom back in his breaking bad days took me and Denise to Jess and Jims and whatever that rotating restaurant Sky’s on top of the Sheraton hotal off the plaza

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:24 pm

roughly the same as per person Chiefs ticket for a 3 hour game

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 6:40 pm

Haha, but that doesn’t include 18 $ beers .

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 5:40 pm

still working on Hoosier to love thy neighbor mink

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 5:55 pm

Think he just needs to work on his ninja skills…

hoosierchief
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:47 pm

mink are a lot craftier than armadillos.

Nasrani
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 5:47 pm
rip58
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 5:54 pm
Nasrani
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:02 pm

Enjoy the real Skid Row, featuring Gary Moore and Phil Lynott, both of whom later played in Thin Lizzy:

rip58
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 6:26 pm

Saving this.. and as always, thx

Nasrani
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 6:31 pm
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 6:41 pm

*bookmarked

upamtn
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 6:13 pm

YES!

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 6:41 pm
rip58
Reply to  probablyamistake
05/31/2023 6:47 pm

You need to hang around more,

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 7:14 pm

Last season took a lot out of me, got irritable with some people I shouldn’t have. Pacing myself right now. Trying to defend a Championship is tough on the emotions and some people around here can get on my nerves.

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Nasrani
Reply to  probablyamistake
05/31/2023 7:15 pm

I’m probably one of those who (inadvertently) ruffled some feathers, though perhaps not as much as some people did (do?), but I just wanted to say it’s been nice to see you around again. You’re part of the community and it isn’t the same without you.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 7:46 pm

You’re one of the many good guys here Nas. Consider everyone here my friend. Sometimes friends can get on one another’s nerves. 😉

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
05/31/2023 8:28 pm

I would hope we all can sense how our friends are doing and comment apprpro, it is difficult I know

rip58
Reply to  probablyamistake
05/31/2023 7:16 pm

I smell what you’re stepping in, just know your missed…

pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
05/31/2023 7:22 pm

don’t let the bastids grind you down, even if I’m one of them
😊

Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:24 pm

Or the blues:

pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
05/31/2023 7:30 pm
Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:31 pm
zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:31 pm

She’s talking bout me

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
05/31/2023 7:35 pm

understandable

rip58
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:42 pm

God dammit, it looks like one of you guys ran the sensitive little fucker out of here already….😂😂

rip58
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 7:42 pm

Just kidding you know I love you

pompano
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 7:50 pm

i blame zulu…

rip58
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 7:58 pm

Zulu is full tilt all the time, he definitely grows on you.. 😂. But the man does an awesome job contributing to this site. And he has softened his edges so to speak..

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:02 pm

I miss HIV2Elway

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:03 pm

Craig from Calgary
Texas Chief

rip58
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:04 pm

Ya, a bunch …
There is that dude from South Korea

rip58
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:06 pm

I just checked my phone but he’s no longer in there that guy that Mailed me that case of Mahomes cereal.. he was a pilot?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:08 pm

so many friends over the years

I would have to say I arrived in this company of Brothers when Pioli arrived

a long fricken time of hardship before all of our just rewards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoosierchief
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/31/2023 8:37 pm

maybe someone should track those guys back down and invite them back… we can probably find their emails.

pompano
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:06 pm

the Kurdish dude too, hope he’s ok

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 8:10 pm

my brain remembers a dude from lees summit living in canada

he was the one that told me oil was not plants but actual dead plankton? over a billion years

rip58
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 8:11 pm

Ya… would be cool to all catch up one day…. But c’est la vie…

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:14 pm

morticia that is French

kiss kiss kiss 🙂

rip58
Reply to  pompano
05/31/2023 8:12 pm

A few more great ones, drawing blanks on names….

pompano
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 8:04 pm

i do not disagree

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  rip58
05/31/2023 7:50 pm

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