Wednesday Night O/T: Mahomes is working on being more efficient this offseason.

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ChiefDog
04/07/2021 10:36 pm
ChiefDog
04/07/2021 10:31 pm

BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 10:31 pm

“I went to watch a fight, and a hockey game broke out”, as the saying goes. Well, this time, I was watching a hockey game and a football game broke out. MN’s up over CO, 7-3. New goalie for CO – and now it’s 8-3. Still a football game, albeit a less likely one.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:44 pm
EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:24 pm

1) Trey Burton, Indianapolis Colts
2) Tyler Eifert, Jacksonville Jaguars
3) Jordan Reed, San Francisco 49ers
4) Jesse James, Detroit Lions
5) Richard Rodgers, Philadelphia Eagles
6) MyCole Pruitt, Tennessee Titans
7) Darren Fells, Houston Texans
8) Josh Perkins, Philadelphia Eagles
9) Demetrius Harris, Chicago Bears
10) Deon Yelder, Kansas City Chiefs

Available tight ends – ranked – number 10 – HA HA HA HA HA HA

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:39 pm

Jesse James would be awesome

He just needs to stay away from St. Joe

Tyrone
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:42 pm

hahaha.

He’s not available until next year but I would love Logan Thomas from WTF.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
04/07/2021 8:09 pm

Chiefs should be practicing all sprint out and boot right…gotta run away from whatever turnstile they have at LT.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
04/07/2021 8:23 pm

or run right at the RE

and put him in a box 🙂

EAFOX
04/07/2021 7:59 pm

D Weed – Demetrius Harris is available. I think we should sign him.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:01 pm

So we can draft knowing anyone can be a great WR with Mahomes spinning the football to them?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:03 pm

I love the thought but has Mahomes actually made any WR/TE better because he is the QB?

leave out Kelce and Hill

Who has stood out?

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:05 pm

Receivers that can run a route, get open, and can catch a ball?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:08 pm

seems too much for most of em consistently

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:13 pm

I take that back

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs

Mahomes throws a consistently catchable ball

Hardman caught 41 of 62 passes
Robinson 45 of 59

Kelce 105 of a 145
Hill 87 of a 135

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:17 pm

I will also add that a lot of “misses” is Mahomes getting a ball near a receiver with a scramble pass that would be a sack or normal incompletion for another.

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:14 pm

DRob – less ability, more discipline
Hardman – more ability, less discipline
Pringle – Is he anything more than a fifth receiver?
Kemp, Dieter, Ffrench, Fortson – unknown

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:20 pm

I am not arguing Mahomes cannot make em better

He has had three seasons of Kelce and Hill and a cast of 15 others

He relies on them as do they

We need to add more to Fight Club 🙂

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:14 pm

Albert Wilson

EAFOX
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:15 pm

I applaud that suggestion.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:18 pm

cept his final season was also Alex Smith’s final season in KC

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:20 pm

This is what I was alluding to with Berto

Remember who was throwing him the ball that game
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EAFOX
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:22 pm

That one game earned him millions

Tyrone
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:44 pm

Holy moley:

“Wilson renegotiated the final year of his contract, accepting a $6.5 million paycut. In return the Dolphins guaranteed $1 million of Wilson’s salary. $800,000 of the contract is tied to per game bonuses.”

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:22 pm

yep I figured

That was Mahomes only game started that season

EAFOX
04/07/2021 7:58 pm

1) Antonio Brown, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2) Marquise Goodwin, San Francisco 49ers
3) Golden Tate, New York Giants
4) Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
5) Cordarrelle Patterson, Chicago Bears
6) Alshon Jeffery, Philadelphia Eagles
7) Dede Westbrook, Jacksonville Jaguars
8) Damiere Byrd, New England Patriots
9) Trent Taylor, San Francisco 49ers
10) Isaiah Ford, Miami Dolphins

Top remaining FA wide receivers – ranked by Pro Football Network

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 7:59 pm

who costs 1 million in salary for 2021?

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:10 pm

Would not mind kicking the tires on Fitz. Westbrook might fit in well with what KC does, but he’s not really the big type they seem to want.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  SCKSChief
04/07/2021 8:14 pm

Fitz is so darn old, yet he just knows how to make plays. I’d love having him on the field for our 3rd down plays. Last season we saw numerous times when a play broke down and Tyreek/Kelce were covered, no one seemed to know where to go. Somehow I suspect Fitz would know exactly where to be.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:16 pm

Elite blocker too.

EAFOX
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:18 pm

Fitz stays with the Cards or retires.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:28 pm

rec

Tyrone
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:13 pm

I wonder if Golden Tate has anything left?

EAFOX
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:21 pm

I love Patterson with some run, catch, and return ability but he is simply not a number two receiver.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 8:24 pm

I’d always liked Tate, but if I remember correctly, he was a major locker room distraction last year. I don’t know the truth about it, of course, but I’d expect more from a veteran.

EAFOX
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:26 pm

If we take on a locker room distraction, I say go for AB – he was reasonably cheap last year.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:27 pm

Man, I wouldn’t touch AB. I know his talent is off the charts, but nooooo thank you.

EAFOX
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:29 pm

I know he is looney tunes but my only concern would be how Tyreek would handle the situation. Kelce has grown up and could handle any BS but Tyreek looks to be more of a follower than a leader.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:34 pm

Not to mention that Hardman is young too. And we’re likely to be drafting a WR in the first few rounds. I don’t want the atmosphere poisoned. And I don’t want AB to drag other impressionable players into his dysfuncational personal life. To me, he’s not worth the risk.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:55 pm

the Jets have blown the #2 pick?

ZACH WILSON
QB, COLLEGE PLAYER
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NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports the Jets “have received few phone calls and very little interest for the No. 2 overall selection.”Jets general manager Joe Douglas on Tuesday all but confirmed the team will take a quarterback — presumably BYU’s Zach Wilson — with the draft’s second pick after dealing Sam Darnold to the Panthers. There’s still plenty of intrigue about what the Falcons will do with the fourth pick, but it looks like the Jets are locked in on another QB selection three years after draft Darnold. Wilson ranks fourth among 2021 quarterback prospects in NBC Sports Edge’s Hayden Winks’ draft model. 

Seems to me

Maybe the Jets could have traded back but trading Darnold pretty much put em in a box and the Price I assume is way to high for anyone to pay to move up

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 8:12 pm

If you want a particular QB at 2, you don’t try to trade back and get him 4,5,6 etc. Don’t stuff around, just take him at 2.

If he’s not a good QB, that’s a different issue.

slackator
slackator
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 10:43 pm

How is getting their guy blowing the pick? If they trade the pick away theres no chance they get Wilson and then theyre stuck without a QB, Gase wasnt the entire problem in NY and Carolina is going to figure that out very early

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  slackator
04/07/2021 10:59 pm

I think Darnold can turn his career around. Ryan Tannehill left Adam Gase and is thriving.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/07/2021 11:12 pm

There’s a good bit of truth to that. WRT coaching, the trend in the NFL’s been to find the next wunderkind, but few have noticed the struggles of the initial wave’s success in the spotlight of the Next Big Thing HC. Fortunately, we have a HC who did it the long, hard way instead, but if you think about it at all levels and circumstances, the NFL’s been flailing quite a bit of late, albeit in relatively small things, like the Watson situation.

That suggests to me a leadership vacuum, which would make sense, with all the owners disinclined to follow any of their peers. Some rightfully so, and others not so much (I’m looking at you, Jerry Jones.), but the bottom line is that there’s no consensus, and Goodell serves as their false front, troubleshooter, and fan whipping boy well enough to provide them with cover. I expect that’s because too many of them care more about the business than the game itself (Why, hello, Jerry, and welcome back.). So the game suffers in favor of every last dollar.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:46 pm

So maybe the Chiefs to Chicago highway goes both ways?

NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports the Bears “have been discussing” trading WR Anthony Miller.

  • ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported at the start of the new league year last month that Miller was “likely to be dealt,” but nothing has come of it to this point. It sounds like something could happen in the near future, however, but interested teams have yet to be identified. Miller is entering the final year of his rookie deal that is set to pay him just over $1.21 million in salary. Miller has shown flashes of promise in Chicago, but nobody has made any noise as a pass-catcher there outside of Allen Robinson with Mitchell Trubisky under center in recent years.
  • SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
  • Apr 7, 2021, 2:27 PM ET

Say if the Chiefs acquired Miller we could then totally focus on Left Tackle?

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:54 pm

Is he actually good?

What would he cost in picks?

EAFOX
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 7:55 pm

Flashes of promise with Trubisky – hard to judge on that one.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 7:56 pm

I can’t imagine more than a 5th, since he’s in the last year of his contract and hasn’t exactly put up great numbers.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:16 pm

I just watched some of Miller’s college highlights. They’re three years old, of course, but he was impressive. Tons of contested catches, not just a manufactured touches guy or a deep threat. Really fought for the ball. And a comment that his coach said he was the hardest working player on the team. I’ll be curious to see if Veach pursues him. Miller’s been a big disappointment in Chicago…..but it’s Chicago.

EAFOX
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:27 pm

I would part with a 4th but no more unless I was convinced that he was the man.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:32 pm

Assuming there’s no off-field issues or anything like that, I might be talked into a 4th. He’s put up comparable numbers to Sammy Watkins, but without the injuries. And he was catching passes from Trubisky; I have to think as the #3 passing target (and #4 offensive target overall), he’d be able to put up solid numbers for us.

EAFOX
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:34 pm

Could be a conditional pick based on snaps

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  EAFOX
04/07/2021 8:36 pm

I still wouldn’t go higher than a 4th, considering that he could walk after the season. We need to use our draft picks on good young (and cheap) talent.

I’m willing to take the risk on Miller because I think the upside is there. But we’d have to keep in mind that he’s going to want a raise after this year.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 8:34 pm

Veach has shown a tendency to get players entering their 2nd contract at around 25

Miller fits the model

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 7:57 pm

If the Bears put him on the market I would assume the max would be a third

He does have a 1 million cap hit on his final season

Cheap to try but I would only give a 4th

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:13 pm
Last edited 13 days ago by steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:15 pm

wore out this 8-track tape

ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 7:03 pm

Here is a crazy bit of trivia, the Chiefs once took a player that was going to be nothing more than a backup with a top-5 pick.

slackator
slackator
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 7:05 pm

every Chiefs top 5 pick?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  slackator
04/07/2021 7:08 pm

you have an agenda?

No drafted player is an actual starter?

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  slackator
04/07/2021 7:14 pm

I know you aren’t being serious.

slackator
slackator
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 10:48 pm

I didnt look it up but now after doing so I very clearly forgot a couple few who they drafted top 5

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:41 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:45 pm

Five players have been chosen by the Chiefs from LSU in the first round of the NFL Draft, with three consecutive from 2007 to 2009, the most from any school.

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:01 pm

We also had three straight years 18-19-20 where we only drafted LSU players in the first round.

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:49 pm

Let’s just say that we have something planned regarding this list.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 6:52 pm

oh oh

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:16 pm

Assuming we pick at 31 as expected this year, that would give us the following first round picks from 2016-2021:

10


32
31

If you assign an inverted value for each first round pick, so pick 1 is worth 32 points, and pick 32 is worth 1 point, that gives us a first round pick value of just 26 points over that 6 year period. I would think that would be the lowest of any team over that span.

The rams had pick 1 in 2016, but have not had a single first round pick since (they don’t have one until at least 2024) but that still gives them 32 points since 2016.

With the Patriots picking 15th this year, they have 31 points since 2016

I can’t think of any other teams that would come close to our low mark of 26 points since 2016.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 7:34 pm

Edwards-Hellaire was a good pick but I would probably do like the Patriots

Trade next years 1st/early 2nd for a true playmaker

those teams drafting at the top of the draft suck at more than playing football on the field after all

BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 6:25 pm

I’m doing a bit better today. I had an unexpectedly good night yesterday, got to bed early and slept late, maybe as much as 11hrs. I think it’s a safe bet that if I slept that long, I’ve been getting a little shorted every night for some time, which lines up with reality pretty well, at least in terms of how I’ve felt. Guarded optimism’s the policy on this front, as opposed to my usual hopeful optimism, which is less concrete.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 6:26 pm

Me too

Less beer last night and bed at 9 pm

Storms all night which always makes me sleep better weirdly

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:32 pm

Mrs BRaG’s like that, too, so it’s not that weird. Oh, wait. She married me, didn’t she. Never mind.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 6:34 pm

Weird would be If I married you!!!!

Just tied together in Chiefdom is probably good enough:)

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:56 pm

Which one’s me? Dunno, I suppose it depends on which day it happens to be.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 7:00 pm

Lately I have been

working on being better, more assertive and brave

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 6:27 pm

Listening to Charlie – lifts me up! 🙂 🙂

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 7:02 pm

Recharging the ol’ batteries is something I need to do once in a while too.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
04/07/2021 7:47 pm

In my case, I think it’s safe to say that everyone left here’s aware that I put forth a massive effort in 2020, just to keep the article number at the same level. I’m not doing that now, and even with help we can only manage two per day now.

I brought it up behind the scenes that we should shift policy, and default to featuring fanposts by default, and only defer from doing so for a reason. Say, a non-football rant, f’rex. No actual discussion’s come of it though, so I dunno.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:20 pm

yippee ki yay!!

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:23 pm

I dated a chick that looked, just like the lady that is dancing with John Travolta. But, too many ladies to chase! And STILL too many ladies to Chase!!

🙁 for you married folks lol lol

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:28 pm
gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:17 pm

Go Get it, my fellow YOUNG Iron Addicts!!!
kids lifting more than 95% of the “men” — don’t get your panties wet – it’s true! 🙂

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:06 pm

NFL Draft – 22 days away

Sports Business Journal reporter Ben Fischer reported in March that the NFL schedule release date would take place sometime between May 10 – 14. News: The NFL is targeting the 2nd week of May to publish the 2021 schedule, after the draft for the second straight year.

Preseason games might be released around NFL Draft (4/29 – 5/1)

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:01 pm

Yes!

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:03 pm

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:06 pm

If we’re able to draft Marshall, it would be really cool if he could honor Delaney by wearing his number. Not sure if that would be an option or not.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 6:07 pm

would be a special honor

I would think if he wanted the Chiefs would probably honor it

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:08 pm

Just no swimming allowed

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:12 pm

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ForeverRanger91
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 6:52 pm

I could see them doing it. The number isn’t officially retired and even if it was, this is a special case. The issue is that Joe’s number isn’t a WR eligible one.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 6:56 pm

The Chiefs have proposed a new rule for players numbers

Frank Clark could be 1 if he desired I think

slackator
slackator
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
04/07/2021 6:57 pm

Chiefs proposal for Jersey Number changes thats expected to pass, 37 would become eligible for WRs

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  slackator
04/07/2021 7:01 pm

Oh OK. I knew about the proposal but didn’t realize WR numbers would be changed.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:06 pm

haha

yet another Geaux Chiefs prospect

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:12 pm

Projected to go end of Round 1 or 2nd round

Positives: Nice-sized receiver who flashes dominance and comes with a large upside. Smooth releasing off the line of scrimmage, fires into routes and stays low on exit. Extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame, adjusts to the errant throw, and comes away with the difficult catch when defenders are draped on his back.
Displays quick hands and the ability to pluck the ball from the air. Tracks the ball in the air, displays good eye/hand coordination, and keeps the play inbounds after the catch. Displays focus and makes the difficult catch in a crowd. Exposes himself to the big hit and gets pounded by defenders yet holds onto the throw.

Negatives: Lackadaisical and lets the pass get inside him on occasion. Peeks upfield and takes his eyes off the ball, which results in occasional dropped passes. Does not show a deep burst on film.

Injury History — oooo shit!!!

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_71b45a80-fce9-11e9-a4c9-73f9cadeac27.html

Tyrone
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:15 pm

Sammy Watkins Jr

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:16 pm

Dwayne Bowe

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:25 pm

I love SONIC & WEED j/k lol lol

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:36 pm

Bowe and Mahomes share a similar spot in Chiefs lore

We finally drafted those positions with any fricken success in the 1st round

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:20 pm

I love Marshall. I think he’ll be a really good pro. I think it’ll be a moot point if there’s a good LT available when we pick, but other than that, he’s got a chance.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 6:46 pm

What would you do if there was a 9.5/10 WR available and a 8.5/10 LT available when we pick?

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 6:47 pm

Oh man, you’re killing me. Lol.

I’d have to take the LT, especially since the draft is pretty loaded at WR.

But no doubt I’d then be kicking myself when a couple good LTs were then available at our second round pick, but all my favorite WRs were gone.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 6:57 pm

There’s so many variables. It does depend somewhat on what other players/positions you think might be available later.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 7:04 pm

Absolutely. It would also really depend if Veach has signed a veteran LT by then. If he knew that we had a day one starting LT, then it wouldn’t be quite as urgent.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 7:07 pm

He might have that in the bag already

Maybe Niang or Thuney is the presumed LT

The Chiefs can pick Best player and take plan B in the second

or a trade after the draft when some team upgraded their LT and are looking at dumping their Over-priced ex LT

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 7:11 pm

Nah, he went after Trent Williams HARD. He wouldn’t have done that if Niang or Thuney was going to be LT. If the season started today, I imagine Niang might be there, but that’s clearly not Veach’s plan.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/07/2021 7:24 pm

Plan A Williams

Plan C Niang
Plan D Thuney

Let us remember

We have an outstanding Offensive Line Coach

Andy Heck enters his 29th year in the NFL in 2020. He begins his 17th season as an NFL coach, including his eighth as the Chiefs offensive line coach. His time in the NFL includes a 12-year career as an offensive lineman.
In 2019, Heck led an offensive line unit that finished third in the NFL in sacks allowed with 25.0 in the regular season. T Mitchell Schwartz started every game at RT, extending his current streak with the most straight starts for an offensive tackle to 128. Schwartz was named Second-Team All-Pro at right tackle. 
The 2018 season featured Heck’s offensive line protecting NFL MVP quarterback Patrick Mahomes who threw for 5,097 yards and 50 touchdowns, which is only the second time in NFL history. On the way to an AFC Championship berth, the offensive line only gave up 34.0 sacks (regular and post season), which ranked tied for sixth in the league. T Eric Fisher was selected to his first Pro Bowl under Heck’s tutelage. Injuries marred the offensive line, but Heck was able to coach young offensive linemen Austin Reiter and Andrew Wylie to 14 combined starts. First-year OL Andrew Wylie was awarded Mack Lee Hill Award, which is annually presented to the Chiefs’ top rookie or first-year player in remembrance of the late Mack Lee Hill.

Until Fisher and Schwartz went down
The Chiefs had protected Mahomes very well. Andy Reid
Green Bay Packers[edit]Reid was hired as an assistant coach by the Green Bay Packers in 1992, the same year quarterback Brett Favre became a member of that team.[12] In 1995, he became the assistant offensive line and tight ends coach, where he helped lead the 1996 team to a Super Bowl XXXI win over the New England Patriots.[13][14][15] Reid was named the Packers’ quarterbacks coach in 1997, replacing Marty Mornhinweg, who left to be the offensive coordinator for his predecessor in Green Bay,

Tyrone
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/07/2021 6:13 pm

GET HIM

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 5:50 pm

The Biggest Abusers

Eagles- 40.7%

The Eagles are well known for their use of bonus restructures to deal with the salary cap and deferring millions of dollars to the future. They rank 2nd in the NFL with $151M in future charges related to signing bonus prorations which is incredibly high when you consider they don’t have a QB on a veteran multi year contract. With just $221M in other salary to account for the Eagles are pretty much going to be in a pinch whenever they need to cut a player or a void hits the books. The Eagles have around $60M in prorated void money over the next five years by far the most in the NFL.

Interesting subject to me

https://overthecap.com/how-teams-are-using-the-signing-bonus-to-manage-the-salary-cap/

Chiefs- 16.0%

The number for Kansas City is a bit misleading. Their $86 million in prorated money ranks 14th in the NFL but their ability to avoid ridiculous sums of bonuses on Patrick Mahomes drives their percentage way down since his contract is so large. I would not expect this to change much in the future unless the Chiefs have to restructure Mahomes in 2023 and 2024. That contract really gives the Chiefs so much leeway with the cap. It’s really the most team friendly contract in the NFL all things considered.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 5:53 pm

Chiefs current cap space

$ 9,275,071

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 6:10 pm

Table from the bottom of that article shows each teams total non-prorated salary between 2022-2026 and their total prorated bonus/void commitments between 2022-2026.
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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 6:14 pm

what do you think Tyrone

good way of handling the cap or not?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tyrone
04/07/2021 6:17 pm

With the Colts being such extreme outliers, I shouldn’t be surprised that the “actual” NFL average is more like 26-27%, were they at something more “reasonable”, like 12%.

I tried to see if there’s a correlation between that percentage and being a good team, but nobody really stands out as reliably good right now. Go fig, and welcome to the Mahomes era.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/07/2021 6:24 pm

The Colts do not have a franchise QB

I think

shit happens constantly right now

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
04/07/2021 5:44 pm

When has Patrick’s efficiency ever been a problem?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/07/2021 5:46 pm

We can all work to be more efficient

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/07/2021 5:49 pm

I get that, and it’s a good thing. But he consistently makes passes no one can make. Maybe the rest of the team should pay attention and get their collective heads out of their arses.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/07/2021 5:54 pm

He is leading by example

and he seems the type to privately kick some ass behind the scenes

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/07/2021 6:06 pm

I think it’s about getting the ball out very quickly. I think he holds onto the ball a little too much. With an iffy O-line, it might be a good idea to hit the first target quicker.

Last edited 13 days ago by MasterChief
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
04/07/2021 6:19 pm

Yep, he can get more willing to take what’s available rather than pressing the time for depth, maybe. Or maybe not, leading to a stalled drive.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  MasterChief
04/07/2021 6:32 pm

Or maybe it’s been play calling. Maybe Andy’s been enamored with the deep ball. Look at what happened in the SB. There was no attempt at a quick passing game. Patrick’s good enough to do whatever he wants with the ball whenever he wants, and smart enough to do what he’s coached to do.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/07/2021 7:11 pm

The deep game isn’t going to work with Mahomes running around all the time (see Super Bowl LV). Tom Brady picked us apart with quick passes. He barely had to move because he just gets the ball out so efficiently. I hope Mahomes works on that with Reid. Then when Mahomes does need to bail out of the pocket, it will be much more effective.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/07/2021 7:14 pm

Until he throws a td on every attempt, he still has room for improvement.

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