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UDFA Tracking Thread

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Welcome to UDFA Day 2!

The draft is over, but there’s still more work to do, as plenty of undrafted players will be signed.

Let’s look back a moment, shall we?

Since I can’t really add fresh updates, I have to leave it for y’all to crowdsource. It’s y’all’s site too, after all.

Time’s yours.

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Tony Sommer
05/03/2022 12:39 pm

I unpinned this thread since it seems like there aren’t any new signings.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/03/2022 4:47 pm

Here’s what I find on a quick scour. I think we caught most of these names here, but there are a couple I think are different:

Gene Pryor, OL, Hawaii
Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson
Jack Cochrane, LB, South Dakota
Dustin Crum, QB, Kent State
Tayon Fleet-Davis, RB, Maryland
Komotay Koffie, DB, Northern Colorado
Jerrion Ealy, RB, Ole Miss
Mike Rose, LB, Iowa State
Trevor Begue, WR, UIW
Qua Brown, S, Southern Illinois

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Berserker
05/03/2022 4:49 pm

I didn’t include names who were listed as invites. Although some of these might turn out to be invites instead of actual signings.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
05/02/2022 6:08 pm

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
05/02/2022 6:07 pm

Looks like overreaction season is here.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 5:33 pm

I can’t help but come away from this draft feeling better about our WR room than last year even with us losing Tyreek. Is that just me overvaluing the unknown? probably.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 5:52 pm

I can easily see this WR group having more production, and being much more consistently productive.

One thing has to happen, though. Mahomes has to fully break his habit of looking for certain individuals, and instead throw to the best option on every play no matter who it is. He has gotten better at that, but it’s a problem that still showed up last year, most obviously in the AFCCG.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/03/2022 4:36 pm

It’s great for new young QBs to have top level receivers to lean on while they get used to the league. Now Mahomes just needs to take the next step.

3rdnlong
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 10:47 pm

I felt that before the draft. I’m cynical on Skyy though.

Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 5:08 pm

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 5:10 pm

Didn’t know there was such a thing.

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  Berserker
05/02/2022 5:12 pm

Not used much. Likely a respect thing as to why it isn’t used more.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 5:18 pm

some people will be very happy about this

Karlaftis has a good teacher

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 6:59 pm

I am one of those people… if he decides to come back for another run.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 7:15 pm

Me me
And Strong mentor for greek freak II

Clark not a mentor

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
05/03/2022 4:57 pm

Why do you assume Clark is a mentor, instead of not one? It’s an assumption either way.

It’s not necessarily a “criticism of character” to say someone isn’t a mentor. A lot of fine people are not cut out to be teachers.

My parents for example. My mom is a career professional teacher who taught other teachers how to teach. My dad on the other hand, his way of teaching was to hand me a chainsaw or motorcycle or whatever, say “be careful,” and then stand back.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 5:20 pm

Keeping Ingram would be very nice for us. The defensive roster is starting to have some nice depth.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 5:45 pm

This had to be done. Glad to see it after nabbing only one DE in the draft.

ForeverRanger91
05/02/2022 5:08 pm

If Ross’ health holds up the Chiefs got a top 15 WR. He has legit first-round talent and was the best WR Clemson had at one point.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
05/02/2022 5:12 pm

Could be the steal of the last 10 drafts

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 5:17 pm

I am not holding my breath considering how bad his issues are but damn the potential is there. Outside of MVS, Hardman, Moore, and Juju those last two or three WR spots are going to be fun to watch. Ross is a legit number 1 and honestly might be better than Sammy.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
05/02/2022 5:19 pm

If we hold onto Ross this season and let him recover we could have some insurance if Juju and Hardman are both gone next year. I’m really pulling for the guy not just as a Chiefs fan but as a football fan. The guy has been through a lot.

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 5:25 pm

Apparently he is ready to go and is cleared for play. I don’t think I have seen a UDFA with this much potential right out of the gate in quite a while.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
05/02/2022 5:26 pm

if ever

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 5:29 pm

You get the odd RB or QB but usually UDFA WRs are lucky if they are number 3 guys.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
05/02/2022 5:28 pm

Guys with this much potential usually don’t make it past the draft. His health concerns were just that serious. I’m kind of surprised that more teams weren’t willing to take a flyer on the guy though considering how crazy the wide receiver market has gotten.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 5:44 pm

He also ran a very slow 40 at his pro day. That probably confirmed some concerns that we won’t get his original athleticism back.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 4:28 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 4:31 pm

loading up on DB’s

and WR’s

Last edited 1 day ago by zulu trader
Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 5:05 pm

Another tall DB. And big. I remember him as a draft prospect being talked about transitioning to safety.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Berserker
05/02/2022 5:08 pm

“Long and tall with physical traits galore, Johnson looks the part but lacks the consistency and ball skills expected of a starting NFL cornerback. He has enough athleticism to make it as a cornerback, but he could be tied to a press-and-trail scheme where some of his coverage deficiencies can be covered up. His physical gifts could get him overdrafted, but he can become an eventual starter if he hones his ball skills and finds the right scheme fit.”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/lonnie-johnson/32004a4f-4800-0020-6142-473a18150e9b

Another Charvarius Ward clone.

I wonder if Justin Reid talked Veach into trading for him.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Berserker
05/02/2022 5:29 pm

Veach likely didn’t need much convincing. Failed former high draft picks are his favorite players.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 5:44 pm

Like this.

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:27 pm

Kansas City Chiefs
@Chiefs
Cook racked up 96 tackles in his lone season as a starter for the Bearcats, tallying 5 tackles-for-loss, a sack, 11 passes defensed and 2 interceptions

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:20 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:20 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:19 pm

Mike Clay
@MikeClayNFL
The Chiefs WR competition is on. The competitors:
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Marquez Valdes-Scantling
Skyy Moore
Mecole Hardman
Josh Gordon
Gehrig Dieter
Justin Watson
Justyn Ross
Daurice Fountain
Cornell Powell
Gary Jennings Jr.
Omar Bayless
Chris Finke
Mathew Sexton
Corey Coleman

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:04 pm

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 7:07 pm

Thanks to the Honeybadger/Landlord for helping us win a SB! I’ll never forget!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:03 pm

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:37 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:46 pm

could be another Tre Smith story. Some guy with medical who should have been a top pick and we get him for nothing

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 2:48 pm

Kinnard specifically compared himself to Smith. This OL could be NASTY

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:55 pm

I think Kinnard rides the bench for a couple of years. No pass blocking skills.

And you know how important that is around here

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 2:56 pm

Unless they are serious about a philosophy adjustment and just want to maul people.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:09 pm

great run blocker but no pass blocking skills.

What? put him in for running plays only?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:17 pm

Kansas City Chiefs
@Chiefs
“A three-year starter for the Wildcats, Kinnard was a two-time All-American and earned ‘First-Team’ honors as a senior last season”

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:19 pm

I think saying “no pass blocking skills” might be overstating a bit. My point is that if they are shifting to a run-first approach (which some are suggesting they may be for long term success), Kinnard at RT makes some sense. His draft profile is very similar to that of Orlando Brown, to be honest. The guy was a two-time All-American and is getting NFL comps of Cody Ford who has started in Buffalo since day one, albeit at OG. Maybe they move him inside and bump Thuney to RT to justify his salary. All I know is Kinnard has the nasty that Creed and Smith have…and that seems to be what KC brass is looking for.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:21 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:23 pm

Muther fucker can’t pass block

he’ll be riding the bench

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 3:39 pm

Not sure where you are coming up with that take.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Plus Name and Plus Name
05/02/2022 3:51 pm

Kinnard is capable of generating instant torque and movement on contact to displace defenders when he connects, and he has a mean streak to finish at a high level. However, his pad level and hand placement are extremely up and down, leaving him high, off-balance and struggling to control blocks consistently.
Overall, Kinnard’s size, flashes of jarring power and quickness are an intriguing blend of traits worth developing, but he needs to significantly improve his technique before becoming a reliable starter in the NFL

Bleacher report–

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  zulu trader
05/02/2022 4:38 pm

Yeah, I think Kinnard would have to show some amazing progress with pass-blocking before he wins the spot over Wylie.

Plus, I think the coaches really like Wylie. And he makes a good tandem with Smith on that right side, Mauler-Technician. Brown and Thuney make the same kind of tandem on the other side, and then Creed is the rug that ties the room together.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Berserker
05/02/2022 4:54 pm

they call him a third round grade.. We got him in the 5th

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:27 pm

Offense is stacked!!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:28 pm

It is stacked. Really tired of see CEH on these lists like he’s done something.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:33 pm

CEH, Clark & Hardman will ball, this year Clark & Hardman want a huge contract after this year from another nfl team.

CEH will be like – the normal work force. When someone wants to TAKE your job — you either STEP UP or step out the f*cking door.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:28 pm

IN ANDY — WE TRUST. To stack DE and DT

Tony Sommer
Reply to  gonzangkc11
05/02/2022 2:37 pm

A (probably not so) bold prediction: Josh Gordon won’t make the roster. The WR is so crowded with guys who aren’t going anywhere (JuJu, MVS, Mecole) and young guys with potential (Moore, Ross) that there just isn’t room for an old guy who showed nothing last year.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 3:41 pm

I would tend to agree but the coaches and players all seem to love Gordon. I would move on but wouldn’t be surprised to see him make it. I wouldn’t be so sure that Ross makes the roster. The health concerns are serious.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
05/02/2022 1:45 pm

Justyn Ross and Mike Rose are two of my favorite rookie acquisitions. Ballers.

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:04 pm

Just watched Mike Rose tape…interesting. But my linebacker focus this year is going to be watching Leo Chenal shoot the gap supported by Gay and Bolton. But…watching the tape…he is immediately better than Niemann. haha.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 2:10 pm

LOL. Niemann…what a turd.

Rose doesn’t flash off the screen a lot, but he’s always in the play. I think that most fans of the B12 schools would say that this guy was definitely a problem for opposing offenses.

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:14 pm

he could pay off. He looks like a pure lottery ticket. Ross is a proven commodity with a video game QB…kinda the way Trey Smith was a proven commodity.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 2:15 pm

Got that right. Ross could be a long term answer at WR.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:42 pm

I hope so. Potential first round talent but big time injury risk.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:15 pm

ROSS IS a BALLER
needs to stay healthy

but A…WOW SIGN

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 1:41 pm

yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!! We did it!!! We took Justyn Ross!!!….yes!!!…..Veach heard my prayers!!!

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
05/02/2022 12:06 pm

Justyn Rose, WR, Clemson. Once projected as a Rd 1 selection.
In the Kingdom
EDIT: I see Saints already posted about it

Last edited 1 day ago by NovaChiefs
saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 11:58 am

I can’t remember which one of you it was, but someone asked me who were some promising players KC could target after the draft. Well, we got one. KC signed Justyn Ross a 6’4 burner wr out of Clemson. Had he stayed healthy, he might have been a top 10 pick this year. Tons of medical flags on him. He might not ever recapture that same speed he once had. But if he does, look out, we got a player with DK Metcalf potential. Great dice roll (if it is even that) by Veach

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Tony Sommer
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 12:03 pm

Haven’t watched any of his film yet, but I don’t understand why guys like him aren’t taken in the 7th. Seems like a better lottery ticket than Jaylen Watson.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 12:07 pm

Put it to like this, if we had a 6th round pick and taken him there, I would have been stoked. So to get him for a chump change signing bonus is a really good deal

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 1:50 pm

agree

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 3:44 pm

If we had taken him in the 4th I would have been fine with it. Ross has 1st round upside.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 1:46 pm

Scary medicals is what everyone is saying.

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 1:48 pm

Very scary medicals…but 6th and 7th round picks are lottery tickets…did everyone forget that Trey Smith had blood clotting issues in his lungs…those are scary medicals.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 1:52 pm

Yep. It all depends on who is willing to take that flyer. Niang wasn’t even on the entire draft board of many teams due to his medicals. I agree with your assertion on the 6th/7th round though. Veach probably wanted to make sure he got “dibs” on those later guys and hoped Ross might still be around later.

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:10 pm

maybe there is an unspoken code between GM’s on why to take a certain medicals guy undrafted. Maybe it was the rest of the GM’s giving The Jaguars a ‘gentlemans’ selection’ to see if they want to pair Ross back up with Lawrence. Thats why I want him…when you pair a healthy Ross up with a video game QB…he comes alive.

hoosierchief
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:09 pm

Anyone know what the scary medicals are? Heck, I have scary medicals but I’d have still been a bargain if they’d have signed me for a t-shirt and a taco…

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  hoosierchief
05/02/2022 2:12 pm

He has a congenital fusion of his upper spine and a surgical fusion just below that. He came back a year later and was knocked out of the season with a foot injury. He has been cleared, but neck issues are, obviously, serious.

Last edited 1 day ago by SCKSChief
MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 2:34 pm

hey could get hit and be paralyzed for life or drop dead. Kinda like the movie ‘The Wrestler’ with Mickey Rorque…great movie.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 2:37 pm

The most underrated movie ever.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  SCKSChief
05/02/2022 3:45 pm

I worry that he could seriously injure himself for life. I love the player, but I’m concerned for the young man.

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/02/2022 1:47 pm

I’m with Tony…I don’t understand that either. I was on Brett Kollmann’s pod cast all draft…and for every 7th round pick….I was like come on Justyn Ross!

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  MasterBlaster7
05/02/2022 3:45 pm

Felt like when every team was passing on Bryce Hall a while back. People were calling for him all the way in round 1.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 2:16 pm

ROSS IS A baller!!!

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/02/2022 3:43 pm

Justyn Ross was always going to get his shot. It’s actually ridiculous to me that no team decided to spend a 7th on him.

Snafu
05/01/2022 8:39 pm

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