Tuesday Night OT: Reid is Lapping the Field When It Comes to Great Chiefs Coaches

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Welcome to Arrowhead Guys–Monday Night Open Thread. Talk about the Kansas City Chiefs or anything you would like. Time’s Yours.

That’s right, I’m linking to myself. The playoff success under Reid has been amazing and far and away the best run in Chiefs history. But, of course, a lot of that is thanks to Mahomes, who has already passed some NFL franchises himself.

 

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pompano
01/18/2022 8:17 pm

So Scotus says congress must pass legislation to address certain issues, fine. Congress passed Voting Rights Act, then Scotus gutted it.
I’m not for federalizing elections, but a federal minimum standard should apply to all states (not unsimilar to minimum standards for healthcare). getting rid of drop boxes is restrictive.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:37 pm

The SCOTUS does a lot of things that turn out questionable over the course of time, such as creating “qualified immunity” out of nothing, but here’s the thing. No matter how bad a decision of them might actually be, ordinary news media are going to give folks the wrong ideas about them.

Remember how they supposedly ruled that “corporations are people! OMBWTFBBQ!!1!@!”? That was over a group of citizens who formed an LLC nonprofit for their political messaging, messages that were censored by state action over their quite legal content. Ruling otherwise would effectively prevent people from forming LLCs for the purpose of such messaging, since state actors could shut the messaging down for partisan political reasons.

You can’t say that Obama’s Pen & Phone presidenting is allowable and then turn around and say that Trump’s was impermissible. Once the precedent (a bad one, IMO) was set, by the Dems, the Reps got to use it, too (and proved my point again). Thus does partisan hostility erode the limitations on gov’t.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 8:58 pm

Fair enough, but “political messaging” became corp political campaign contribs.
An under considered decision led to predictable consequences.

pompano
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 9:18 pm

*the opinions could/should have addressed it.
I trust you will let me know if they did.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 10:47 pm

I don’t actively do legal research, I just keep up with the news from reliable sources, which includes some cross-checking between platforms. That means reading what lawyers write, not stringers & beat reporters. FWIW, my sources lean Libertarian-Left.

Regardless, this is not amenable to the typical internet discussion format, or I’d do some fast googling, find some factoids, and slam back. If you want to discuss an issue, I’m happy enough to do it, but not with those who have nothing more to bring than some article by a journalist. Journalists do not, as a rule, understand law or science, so they’re very apt to mislead.

Are eggs good or bad for you? Can people associate to advocate for a political cause, or is it just the wealthy who get to speak out?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 10:34 pm

That decision wasn’t “under-considered”, though. If content-based censorship of political messaging is allowable, then it simply comes down to who’s in power at the time. Or if you prefer, it means that rich people get to put out political messages by purchasing ad space, but non-rich individuals of a like mind cannot associate to advocate to fund advertising for the opposite candidate, because forming a nonprofit to such an end means they’re censored by cost.

So, which would you prefer, groups of ordinary people being allowed to associate, in order to be able to match up against wealthy people, with corporations like Monsanto, GM, Apple, etc maybe, someday, actually advocating for a candidate, someday? Or do you prefer ‘him what pays, says’?

I’ll await the DVs on this one, too, but the funny thing about rights is that defending them only when ‘nice’ people get theirs violated is how you lose them.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 10:47 pm

I understand the argument, but it gave more power to the Apple/MS etc rather than leveling the plying field.

lobbying used to be illegal

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 10:10 pm

Reuters) – Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year’s U.S. election cycle.

“My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like,” Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law’s stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month’s end.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  probablyamistake
01/18/2022 10:14 pm

The Confederate States of America (CSA), commonly referred to as the Confederate States or simply the Confederacy, was an unrecognized herrenvolk republic in North America that existed from February 8, 1861, to May 9, 1865.[1][4][5] The Confederacy comprised U.S. states that declared secession and warred against the United States during the ensuing American Civil War.[6][7] Eleven U.S. states declared secession from the Union and formed the main part of the CSA. They were South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina. Kentucky and Missouri also had declarations of secession and full representation in the Confederate Congress during their Union army occupation.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  probablyamistake
01/18/2022 10:18 pm

Typical news story regarding law. You get an outcome, and a heavy implication of a Party, and…nothing of actual substance. Like the bad reporting about a 1stA case I mentioned earlier (look for the DVs), it explains nothing while pretending to mean something.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 10:23 pm

it means more hoops to jump through to cast a vote, the intent.
see post above

pompano
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 10:24 pm

solutions in search of a problem.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 11:00 pm

You’ve said a number of things about this story, but the thing is, you’ve still said nothing about the status of the law in the court system. I think I’d have run across if it’s been ruled on by the SCOTUS. All you’ve mentioned is that 300 people out of however many hundreds of thousands…have been denied registration permanently?

No way of telling, from here, and frankly, I’m not willing to waste the skull sweat to get up to speed on it, only to talk about it with those who can’t be bothered.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 10:51 pm

So, you can argue the case before a judge, and easily win, or does your inability to do so prove corruption?

Seems that I have to point this much out, though. I am not a supporter of this TX law, nor the one WRT abortion. That’s a workaround that sets a dangerous precedent, in the latter case. It’s sure to be attempted WRT gun ownership, if it stands.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 10:59 pm

Much of what both sides do is disingenuous on it’s face, very frustrating.
I’m out,

peace brother.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 11:01 pm

Eh, I’m out of this discussion, too. Too apt to actually frustrate me, if I stay in it.

pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
01/18/2022 10:19 pm

Saw one issue was registering with DL#, requesting ballot with SSN DQng the application…needlessly burdensome

rip58
01/18/2022 8:05 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 7:48 pm
pompano
01/18/2022 7:36 pm

FTIW, Tony is worth a follow on the bird app (I rarely interact but do look). He’s as logical and measured as you would expect, even on hot button issues (sorry I don’t “like” or comment more, just assume I agree 98% of the time).

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 7:43 pm

AG has a surprising amount of famous followers, like Peter Shraeger. AG twitter is one of their go-to places to catch what the fans are thinking. Pretty cool.

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:47 pm

keep it up, folks

(me? I don’t do that one … I do Facebook as needed and … someplace called Arrowhead Guys, whatever THAT is)

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:54 pm

volunteer, huh? how much does it pay? 😉

yeah, I can help out some … add me to the editor list or whatever (just dropped a fast comment on the AG Fb page)

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 8:32 pm

AG1234
Ag1234
Ag1234!

Last edited 3 months ago by pompano
pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 8:35 pm

HA

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:55 pm

looks to be a bit unattended for awhile …

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
01/18/2022 7:49 pm

I’m not saying I don’t believe you, I’m just curious how you know that.

BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 7:25 pm
Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:58 pm

Remembered this song the other night

Saw them at Great Bend wayyyy back when

pompano
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 7:13 pm

A criminally underrated band in their day.

vvet818
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 7:21 pm

reminds me of this gem

upamtn
Reply to  vvet818
01/18/2022 7:29 pm

which, in turn, reminds me of this …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXbc7VpsBM

Last edited 3 months ago by upamtn
BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 6:44 pm
upamtn
01/18/2022 6:35 pm

ok, so reps it is is …

yesterday did 1,000 curls, today doing 1,000 bench press (500 down, 500 to go, seeya laters) … just lil hand weights, but still: gets the metabolism going for a bit

Last edited 3 months ago by upamtn
EAFOX
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 6:39 pm

AND you still could not lift my ex-wife off the ground.

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 8:41 pm

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Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 6:42 pm

Awesome! Keep up the great work.

upamtn
Reply to  Maw423
01/18/2022 7:31 pm

thank you, gonna try!

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:37 pm

just finished the other 500 … it IS a lot, even small wts, it HAS to be helping SOME, likely not burning all THAT many calories (I wouldn’t think) but anything it does is a good thing (and if “more reps” = good, then yeah, this seems pretty good, for now)

for now gonna keep same wts (not increase) but want to do 1,000/day and switch off between curls and bench press, see how THAT goes for a week with basically same diet (calories) and see where I am

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:34 pm

Rock the Bills!!!

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:31 pm

Sunday we’ll be screaming for vengeance!!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
01/18/2022 6:23 pm

Reading that BirdLaw tweet is somewhat mind boggling…I am shocked that Mahomes has only been a starter for three years. LMAO

EAFOX
Reply to  SCKSChief
01/18/2022 6:27 pm

According to Tony Dungy, the moment was too big for Cincinnati.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
01/18/2022 6:39 pm

3 straight AFC Championship game appearances with Mahomes as Starting QB

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 6:54 pm

That’s pretty impressive considering our history.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 7:46 pm

We’re only 2 games away from a 4th in a row.

upamtn
Reply to  MasterChief
01/18/2022 7:48 pm

no, we’re one win away from 4 in a row …

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 8:01 pm

Well Wichita and Rip and I will do our best, Thanks Gonzang!

AG will be well represented at Arrowhead on Sunday evening

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 8:14 pm

While I don’t begrudge you guys a bit of your fun, seeing y’all talking about game meetups is bittersweet for me, since I’ll likely never attend a game at Arrowhead again. In fact, I’ll likely never even meet anyone I know from the community in person.

Unless I win the lottery, of course, but I hear you have to purchase something to be eligible for that.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 8:16 pm

it is all rips fault

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 8:18 pm

he will reply to this downthread…

rip58
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:25 pm

It’s not my fault…… but I’m glad it happened……😁

pompano
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 8:31 pm

(blame the monkey)

rip58
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:35 pm

Monkeys?

pompano
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 8:39 pm

…the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket…

rip58
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:40 pm

A bucket and a mop?

Last edited 3 months ago by rip58
pompano
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 8:49 pm

reminds me of this Meat Puppets song

pompano
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:50 pm
rip58
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:54 pm

Hell ya…. Thx

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 8:42 pm

Shocking?

pompano
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 9:00 pm

comment image
*ape, I know

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 9:07 pm

I hear ya. As the years speed by the time takes it’s toll on the body and mind. I see the wall up ahead and know the day will come I too will never visit the hallowed ground again in person but in ash. I just try to cram all the fun times in now I feel blessed being able to have. A few year ago the other two finally agreed to get together and Steve even brought along a few more cool guys. We try to hit one each year. It’s crazy. I limp around each day at work and home. But get me at Arrowhead I buzz around like the oldsters in the movie cocoon. The actual game is just like the icing on Andy’s cake.

EAFOX
01/18/2022 6:22 pm

Just listened to some jack ass sports talk guy say that Josh Allen at his best is better than Patrick Mahomes.

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 6:28 pm

better at what?

EAFOX
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 6:30 pm

Certainly not being an NFL quarterback.

Panzer85
Panzer85
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 6:33 pm

Rodeo?

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 6:44 pm

Can anyone realistically say that we’ve seen the very best that either has to offer this early in their careers?

rip58
Reply to  Maw423
01/18/2022 6:46 pm

Hopefully we’ve seen the best of Allen.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:56 pm

I wonder. How did Buffalo play in games following blowouts during the regular season?

EAFOX
Reply to  Maw423
01/18/2022 6:51 pm

Patrick has shown that he has ice in his veins and can carry a team in the most clutchest of moments. Josh Allen – a very good quarterback – has panicked in similar situations.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 6:55 pm

Agree completely. I just don’t think that we can honestly say that either one of them are done improving at this point in their careers. I don’t believe that Allen will ever surpass Mahomes. I do think he has more growth to go before he reaches his peak.

EAFOX
Reply to  Maw423
01/18/2022 7:01 pm

Both will improve – scary when you think about that. This could be a make or break game for Allen – IF he loses again and shows the panic, he will be characterized as such and start to weigh on him. IF he wins, he moves up a notch in everyone’s eyes.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 7:06 pm

Guess he’ll have to figure out how to live with the characterization then.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
01/18/2022 7:10 pm

I am wondering

is Josh Allen more like a Big Ben, Crybaby Rivers, or Peyton Manning?

John Elway?

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 7:39 pm

ha … who knows

he IS taller than Mahomes, good downfield vision, arm is strong enough and accurate and he has some good talent catching the ball

BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 6:21 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 6:25 pm
probablyamistake
probablyamistake
01/18/2022 6:11 pm

Don’t tell Ups any of this. It’s just useless stats, doesn’t mean anything 😁

rip58
Reply to  probablyamistake
01/18/2022 6:15 pm

Hahaha……😁 I won’t say anything……

upamtn
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:30 pm

if they’d had this many playoff games way back when, Hank Stram woulda had 20 playoff wins by now (wink*wink*nod*nod)

rip58
01/18/2022 6:05 pm

Need a little help, buddies 60th birthday next weekend, and he has grown fond of tequila. I need suggestions please.. thanks in advance…

AndyReidStach
AndyReidStach
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:11 pm

Founded by rock legend Sammy Hagar, Cabo Wabo produces premium traditional tequila in the highlands of Jalisco, Mexico. Aged between 4 and 6 months, the Reposado expression is bold yet balanced with agave, spice, and citrus notes.

rip58
Reply to  AndyReidStach
01/18/2022 6:21 pm

Ok cool, I’ll check it out…

AndyReidStach
AndyReidStach
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 7:44 pm

I’ve had it but it’s been a while. It was smooth but im not a big tequila guy.

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  AndyReidStach
01/18/2022 6:43 pm

Someone say Hagar?

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:46 pm

With Eddie….

Crank it to Arrowhead level…….

upamtn
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 7:43 pm

Eddie Who? 😉

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 7:44 pm

one … two … three lock box!

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 7:46 pm

KISS? What’s a KISS? No, there’s only ONE way to rock …

Doughboy66
Doughboy66
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 8:01 pm

A little KISS never hurt nobody.

pompano
Reply to  Doughboy66
01/18/2022 8:02 pm
upamtn
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 7:43 pm

Mas Tequila!

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 8:45 pm

Sunday. Arrowhead. Red.

pompano
Reply to  AndyReidStach
01/18/2022 7:05 pm

I’ve heard it is very good, mostly from Sammy 😊.

Last edited 3 months ago by pompano
MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:12 pm

There’s some tequila-making kits with barrel and everything on Amazon and elsewhere.

Or, pics of Tila Tequila might work too.

rip58
Reply to  MasterChief
01/18/2022 6:24 pm

A kit sounds like a great idea…thx

rip58
Reply to  MasterChief
01/18/2022 6:35 pm

Great idea on the kit, for 150 I can get a kit , comes with wooden barrel they will put his name on it …perfect thanks MC ..

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 7:49 pm

If he hates it, blame me! I hope he loves it!

EAFOX
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:17 pm

Naked hookers holding the cheapest Tequila possible.

rip58
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:17 pm

Had to google, ya I’m pretty sure he would be happy with both…

rip58
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:20 pm

That was for MC , don’t let pompano know I’m posting shit out of order. He will never let me forget it…….

pompano
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 7:07 pm

it’s part of your charm…

rip58
Reply to  pompano
01/18/2022 7:13 pm

I suppose…….it’s been a few moons

upamtn
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:32 pm

Happy B-Day to him!

if I may, I’d suggest some TEQUILA!

pompano
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 7:04 pm

Haven’t had takillya in +/- 15 yrs. Can’t handle it anymore (most any shots antmore).

BleedingRedAndGold
01/18/2022 5:49 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 5:44 pm

wow

Quiet crowd tonight

ChiefDog
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 5:54 pm

… and Tuesday meeting’s hangovers…

ChiefDog
Reply to  ChiefDog
01/18/2022 5:55 pm

Also…

Fuck the Bills!

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 5:55 pm

Yesterday was a holiday

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 6:59 pm

It was my first mlk day off since high school

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:09 pm

Fed holiday, they don’t have to pay, but can’t punish for taking it (wink, wink).

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:22 pm

Pretty sure it applies to the big 7, not all the post office holidays.

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:27 pm

“unlimited”?
Assume that means you can take days whenever, not unlimited days.

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:38 pm

There should at least be a minimum in the contract, but I have never worked for a big corp.

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:47 pm

that’s good nowadays.

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/18/2022 7:20 pm

I noticed on my off season fillers that when they got over 20-30 comments, they usually had nothing to do with the subject (when I had one).
Not a complaint, the purpose was to have a place to interact,

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 5:54 pm

I’ve noticed that morning and evenings are the hottest times at AG. Mid-day is a ghost town. It’s almost like these people have lives or something!

Also, mid-week isn’t the best.

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 6:10 pm

Think Wichita wants to be at jack stacks at 11:00 then to arrowhead. I told him what ever he wanted was good with us.
Wouldn’t be the 1st Time we spent 12 hrs on the sacred acre

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  rip58
01/18/2022 6:27 pm

I’m going have a stencil made to spray paint my space there. Do it up next year. Have “Wichita Chief AG”

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:33 pm

that sounds awesome

which jack stack? Plaza?

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 6:35 pm

Metcalf. I can order Saturday online. They have a tent for pick up. 5 minutes max.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:37 pm

can I park there safely all day?

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/18/2022 6:53 pm

We’ll figure out a place. They are in an area with other stuff. It can be somewhere else to. I can check. I’m still trying to get my plus one. G has his girls this weekend. Waiting on some call backs.

upamtn
Reply to  Wichita Chief
01/18/2022 6:34 pm

Cool!

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  upamtn
01/18/2022 6:35 pm

I’m silly enough to do it……

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