Tuesday Night Open Thread: Carl Cheffers Will Ref The Super Bowl

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river
river
01/24/2023 10:00 pm

Chase for the Bengals and Bates have been telling the world how great they are and how bad they will kick the Chiefs ass. Apple has been kicking the Bills when their down. I don’t think I like these guys much. They remind me of the Raiders.

Last edited 15 days ago by river
Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  river
01/25/2023 10:07 am

To be fair, the Bengals have a long and storied history of being a Raiders-like franchise. Remember Vontaze Burfict?

pompano
01/24/2023 9:35 pm

restricting (criminalizing) a citizen’s movements sure sounds like small gov’t .

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 9:59 pm

That’s too commonly done to be a partisan point. The unjust, unreasonable, and unworkable restrictions levied via the No-Fly List and Sex Offender List have been driven by administrations and pols on both sides without regard for the actual outcomes.

I know, I know, sex offenders! The problem is that they’re all lumped together and never evaluated. Thus, you can have a 19yo who had sex with someone 3–5 years younger, not realizing it’s illegal, for whatever reason. No perverse motives or drives to it, no expectation of repeating it – and he can’t live anywhere he can get a job, by law. What’s he supposed to do, execute himself? And there’s no escaping either one – and simply annoying a gov’t agent can get you on either one, and with the N-FL, you likely won’t know it until you’ve bought your tix and then the TSA steps in.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:05 pm

they want to add a new one

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 10:21 pm

And that’s no better than the others, but if the only thing that matters is preventing the next one, you’re stuck with your failures, with no prospect of being rid of the damned things.

NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 8:44 pm

Reason #569 we are not Cowboy fans. Our team likes our players. “Here come’s the bus, Dak. Wanna just climb under it or should we throw you?”

Last edited 15 days ago by NovaChiefs
upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 10:17 pm

The Dallas Chargers?

BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 7:59 pm

My two cents regarding cheffers’ assignment:

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:19 pm

yeah well, that’s just, you know … like YOUR opinion – The Dude

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 10:22 pm

Of course, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

upamtn
01/24/2023 7:57 pm

Earth to Steve, come in Steve … Steve, come in Steve … check your email if you can hear us, Steve 🙃😁🤪😊🐾🐾🎸🎼🎶🎵🎹🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 7:57 pm

I am busy

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 7:58 pm

FYI – anyone out there has clear skies, the crescent 🌙 moon is sweet

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 8:01 pm

totally overcast KC never has clear skies when something interesting happens

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 8:03 pm

i just heard thunder

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 10:19 pm

and the comet!

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 8:26 pm

I just saw it from here in CA. Very nice.

upamtn
Reply to  MasterChief
01/24/2023 10:20 pm

right on! 😁

pompano
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 8:32 pm

During a 1994 blackout, L.A. residents called 911 when they saw the Milky Way for the first time

https://timeline.com/los-angeles-light-pollution-ebd60d5acd43

Last edited 15 days ago by pompano
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 9:40 pm

24/7 daylight’s not good for humans.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:20 pm

people are stupid

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 10:23 pm

Film at 11

river
river
01/24/2023 7:28 pm

Is there a place where you can look at the grading for the officiating crews?

river
river
Reply to  river
01/24/2023 7:30 pm

Has Cheffers graded higher or what’s the criteria for picking the SB officals?

Last edited 15 days ago by river
river
river
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 8:03 pm

Thanks Nova, it looks like to me the refs with more flags get graded higher. Is that right?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  river
01/24/2023 8:07 pm

Sure looks like it, even though the site says nothing about grades.

river
river
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 8:20 pm

We definitely need more transparency and ffing grades

NovaChiefs
Reply to  river
01/24/2023 8:14 pm

I looked, but couldn’t find any published grades on them for any year. No rankings or anything.

Looking just at him and how the Chiefs fared when he is “the man”:
# of penalties against us from 2018 on (rank) by Cheffers crews
2018: 15th out of 32 team. He did not call everybody’s games. (not bad)
2019: 5th
2020: 1st (3 games, avg 10.3 a game against us)
2021: 2nd (SF #1, 3 game vs our 2, but both avg 7/gm)
2022: 3rd
His crews avg about 8.2 penalties against a team per game, and every year except one in the last 5, we’ve been top 5 in teams he’s called penalties on.
His faves: False start (probably everyone’s), Off. Holding, DPI, Unnecessary roughness, Def Holding. Only 6 Roughing the Passer, and at least one was pure bullshit.

river
river
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 8:22 pm

Need some gd transparency and a grading system. You know they have a grading system !!

NovaChiefs
Reply to  river
01/24/2023 8:24 pm

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 8:33 pm

A judge must avoid all impropriety and appearance of impropriety. This prohibition applies to both professional and personal conduct. A judge must expect to be the subject of constant public scrutiny and accept freely and willingly restrictions that might be viewed as burdensome by the ordinary citizen.”

That’s straight from the legal code of conduct, but for refs, it should at least apply to professional conduct. The only thing I can say about Carl is that he’s not Triplett.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 8:36 pm

The phrase “Damning with faint praise” comes to mind

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 8:49 pm

As it should, pretty much.

river
river
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 9:54 pm

Well hell from the way the Bengals, Bates and those boys have been saying how much they’re going to kick the Chiefs ass it doesn’t sound like we have much of a chance anyway.

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 10:24 pm

but you have to prove INTENT for the stats to “mean” anything and good luck on that part

who knows? maybe this SB they won’t toss a lot of yellow …

” It could happen” – Judy Tenuta

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 11:17 pm

No you don’t.
You have more flags thrown against the Chiefs by Cheffers than most other teams. That is provable. That’s what it says.
We are getting 67% more flags than average. That’s provable. We are coached by one of the best, most respected, most successful coaches ever. Do you think sloppy, undisciplined play goes with that?
Can I prove he has a grudge? No. Can I prove he throws more flags against us than any other team? I can.

However, our bigger concern for now is that this weeks guy called the 1st game in Cincy where the reffing was horrible, so hating on Cheffers might have to wait.

pompano
Reply to  river
01/24/2023 8:26 pm

Not
Fucking
Likely

pompano
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 8:28 pm

refs have their own union and killed the last replacement development program

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 9:46 pm

I’m not against unions as a concept, or even a necessary solution to some problems.

My problem with unions is when they gain enough power that their goal is always less oversight on the job, and less accountability. The NFL’s ref union is one extreme example of this, but police and teachers’ unions are more notorious examples.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 9:50 pm

true.
still crazy to see MI become a right to work state few yrs ago

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 10:09 pm

Teamsters, AFL-CIO, Police Benevolent associations, just to start.

The reason RTW laws exist is because unions spend dues on things that many of their members object to, and in non-RTW states, you can be forced to pay dues that you don’t want to. Your non-RTW vision’s a matter of closed shops, and needing union approval to be hired.

Furthermore, they work hard to protect their worst, such as teachers’ unions shifting teachers who’d taken liberties to new schools who’ve no idea of the history. Sometimes they do this multiple times, as though they were Catholic Bishops.

And the thing is, if you oppose RTW, then you’re protecting all of this ongoing unfairness. Whatever your views, the Left loves unions, so it loves these abuses. They’re all in for corporations that folks don’t consider to be corporations.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:19 pm

And to any teacher who might get upset by the criticism, grow up. These are absolutely real problems, and are being compounded by political lobbying to the effect that only they are allowed to education, and every tax dollar for that belongs to themselves.

That’s an absolutely anti-child position, and don’t get me started about the Progressive HS who withheld notification of achievement awards they’d won, because those gave them an unfair advantage with colleges over their classmates.

Or how about elite-tier gov’t HSs who do everything they can to keep out high-performing Asians, because they are outperforming (or thought to be) “victim minorities” (my term) for the sake of arbitrary gov’t-defined racial categories.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:27 pm

feeling a bit of anti-wokeness, are we?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 10:39 pm

Not at all, but you suggesting that after I laid out some real-world, documented injustices says more about you than me, my friend.

Not to mention that you’ve lumped in protecting kiddy-groping teaches as an inherent element of “woke”. Another note, though I mean this gently, it’s been bothering me; my transgender son wouldn’t agree with when you spoke out for Trans folks. They are people, not a special interest group.

That is an essential element of “woke”, because it’s a demand upon others on behalf of a group who may hate their very idea. You know who hates the term Latinx? Well over 90% of Latinos and Latinas. Wokeness says they don’t get a say in their new normal. You like that unwelcome imposition upon others?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 10:43 pm

And I still consider you to be a friend, and would help you i9n any way I could, and I know you’re a retired(?) teacher, but you’re treating serious, factual points as though they were no more than political fluff, and nobody actually got hurt, so keep the unfairness rolling.

I object to that, and I’m not looking forward to your next casual dismissal of important criticisms.

upamtn
01/24/2023 7:21 pm

off for coffee … for tomorrow and BEYOND! ☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕☕

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:00 pm
upamtn
01/24/2023 6:57 pm

hoping new PC arrives sooner rather than later… tomorrow would be nice, ain’t bettin on it

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:55 pm
Snafu
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:58 pm

Silky P

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  Snafu
01/24/2023 9:47 pm

I TOLD You that Cranberry Juice would help … ; )

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:53 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
01/24/2023 6:39 pm

you seem to have that issue

I am addicted to HyVee Cowboy chicken grillers and fries

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:40 pm

I could maybe deconstruct them and save a fortune

Snafu
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:30 pm

It’s not very difficult.

Doughboy66
Doughboy66
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:29 pm

What is in a cowboy chicken griller?
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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Doughboy66
01/24/2023 7:59 pm

thank you

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:59 pm

I can buy the ingrediants and freeze them myself

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:35 pm

https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/teamvsteam?opp=16

Well the Bengals have not won @Arrowhead lately except in OT

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:45 pm

the only game that counts is the next one

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:46 pm

Ah Einstein!!!!

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:46 pm

*gasp* you KNOW!

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:47 pm

I have met you 🙂

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:54 pm

you the guy who almost killed us both en route to Rosedale BBQ

Last edited 15 days ago by upamtn
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:56 pm

possibly

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:00 pm

well, I won’t tell anyone if you won’t 🤪

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 7:01 pm

That was a solid BBQ joint, back when I lived in Rosedale, hope they’re still going.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/24/2023 7:05 pm

My dad always claimed it was the best BBQ in KC.

And since KC has the best BBQ in the world, then Rosedale is the best in the world.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 7:04 pm

Oh Rosedale BBQ, how I miss you!

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Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 8:00 pm

And we’ve only won one of the last 8 vs the Bungles.

Can’t believe the Bungles have an all time winning record against us.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:32 pm

the vegas odds have swung like 4 points towards the Bengals since yesterday

Chiefs are Dogs at Arrowhead

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:46 pm

that won’t last too long

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:47 pm

The other than Chiefs Kingdom doubts us

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:48 pm

Peons

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:49 pm

Who would pick a Burro over the GOAT

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:53 pm

but I love you, Steve!

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:57 pm

I would not eat either even with BBQ sauce

love you man!

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:59 pm

ditto

Snafu
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 7:34 pm

Goat curry’s good. Just bony.

Tyrone
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 8:01 pm

They’re beaten us 3 times in a row and now by far our most important player has an injury. They should be favourites.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:17 pm

something else

the Bengals attacked one of our rookie CB’s, who played 66 snaps against them

He is not playing all that since then. Williams I think and now Watson is getting those snaps

we have a deep secondary

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:19 pm

Sneed was out I think

NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 6:11 pm

Can someone explain the whole “deferred” part of this Lemmons thing?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 6:13 pm

who cares he sucks

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:14 pm

IF you cut a dude

he has a brain full of disinformation to feed the enemy

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:17 pm

most ST snaps on the year, something there

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 6:18 pm

he was the dude that helped in a beating at last years Super Bowl?

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:19 pm

no idea

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 6:22 pm

we needed the roster spot for either CEH or our TE from IR

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:24 pm

yep, Fortson please

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 6:26 pm

had to remind Daisy that I may be dumb but she is dumber

could you imagine a household where the Dog is the smart one….

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:49 pm

ummmmmm

there’s a reason why dogs adopt humans … who goes to work to supply food? who pays for everything in the world and provides all a dog could possibly need?

WHO’S the smart one? 😉

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
01/24/2023 6:58 pm

Dang You

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:20 pm

Yes. With Kamara

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 6:16 pm

prob has to do with waiver claim whilst in the playoffs, also keeps us from bringing him back after AFCCG

NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 6:39 pm

He can’t play. Can he go to the facilities? Can he be part of the team?

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 6:41 pm

no idea

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 6:42 pm

so were you able to add the pics to the AG vault?

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
01/24/2023 6:51 pm

not yet, will try in a bit.

pompano
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 8:17 pm

done. next time email them

NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
01/24/2023 7:13 pm

Me either. That’s why I asked. Wondering if it was just to stop us from getting him back or getting info

Budahmon
Budahmon
Reply to  NovaChiefs
01/24/2023 7:30 pm

It’s deferred until after the Super Bowl. It’s really a dick move that only hurts Lammons who’s season is now over.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Budahmon
01/24/2023 7:37 pm

That’s what I was afraid of. The poor guy now CAN’T be picked back up an play in the SB or Sunday. I know it’s a job, but even if they don’t turn around and cut him, I wouldn’t be happy if I was him

zulu trader
zulu trader
01/24/2023 6:08 pm

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zulu trader
zulu trader
01/24/2023 6:05 pm

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Chiefs_all-in
Chiefs_all-in
01/24/2023 6:04 pm

Carl fuckin cheffers. This sucks so bad. The last chiefs game he called, I had to shut off because it was unwatchable. I hate the NFL so much right now.

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