Tuesday Night O/T: Will this be the most predictable draft ever?
134 repliesThe NFL draft has become one of the most watched sporting events in the world. Even though it’s literally just a dumpy middle aged man reading a list of names off a card, the intrigue of what teams will do creates a lot of drama.
But this year the drama may be a little less. As our own user mock draft has predicted, it seems more and more likely that the top 4 picks will be quarterbacks. And we’ll even know who those quarterbacks are.
The first pick will be Lawrence. Although many people like Wilson better, the convectional wisdom is that Lawrence is a generational prospect and he has been penciled into this spot for years.
The second pick is a little more open, but it seems Wilson is gaining traction as the consensus next best quarterback.
"If the Jets didn't have the 2nd overall pick, they would not have traded Sam Darnold." – @AdamSchefter
"If the Jets would've been number 3, or 4 or 5. They would've kept Darnold."
Notes that the #Jets feel strongly about Zach Wilson, and that is the only reason for the trade. pic.twitter.com/axmYLDN0bM
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 6, 2021
The 49ers gave up a kings ransom to the Dolphins to move up to the 3rd pick, so it’d be shocking if they drafted a position other than quarterback. And that quarterback is apparently Mac Jones.
Adam Schefter dropping on ESPN Radio this morning that he'd be shocked if Mac Jones wasn't the pick at 3 to the 49ers
Mac 3rd overall is +170 on FD
Mac to SF is +180 on Fox— Anthony Amico (@amicsta) April 6, 2021
Then we get to the 4th pick, where apparently several teams are interested in moving up to. Like the 49ers, if a team moves up it’s hard to imagine them picking a position other than quarterback.
With teams locked into the first three overall picks, the Atlanta Falcons now have received trade calls from multiple teams and “are open to moving” out of the No. 4 spot, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 6, 2021
By the time the draft arrives we could have the first hour in the bag before it starts.
I don’t think this will be the most predictable draft by any means. The main reason is because of the weird college football season this year and the lack of a centralized combine. There are going to be players drafted on upside who didn’t play this last year at all, and who knows what schools any one team went and visited for pro days, let alone all teams? There’s always some draft pick in the 1st round that’s a head scratcher. I think this year will see even more.
The Eric Berry years feel like a long time ago.
The days drag longer and the years fly faster…getting old sucks balls.
The idea of best player available in the draft: does each team create an overall rank of athletes based on proof of performance and potential regardless of position? Even so it would be hard for a team not to lean towards certain positions of need. Take the Chiefs, consensus here it seems is OL, WR or Edge in the first round, but what if it turns out to be a TE or Safety or LB ostensibly because BPA, how upset might one be? I suppose that depends on the athlete selected. Veach picked RB at 32 last year but I’ve seen in past discussions here a general downgrading of the importance of RBs in early rounds. Just musing in print.
I am sure they rank each player individually, but when it comes time to choose, the team puts an emphasis on position of need.
The beauty of football is that almost every position, the 2nd string player still gets a lot of game reps. So drafting BPA, you still can find a way to get him on the field.
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Anyone think there’s a plan to use Fisher as a late re-sign if he shows progress and they can’t get the LT they want. I mean, if they just settle for someone and he’s around, he’d be good insurance.
No
I’m not suggesting they do it unless things are rather bleak.
The Chiefs organization obviously had a good relationship with Fisher and Schwartz both. While I don’t think the Chiefs plan on bringing either one back, should the situation present itself that a reunion is beneficial for one or the other, I don’t think there’d be any problem. (I mean, imagine that whoever we have at LT gets injured in November and Fisher looks to be healthy and hasn’t been signed by anyone. I imagine Veach would jump at the chance to bring him back.) So while I think it’s a longshot, I wouldn’t discount the possibility.
I was going to say “when do we ever bring a guy back after letting him go”, but then I remembered Colquitt.
Yeah, I still think it’s unlikely, BUT we just don’t know how our OL might look in September….or November/December. If Fisher is healthy and available, I see no reason why Veach wouldn’t welcome him back with open arms. (He already knows our offense perfectly, so if healthy, he could literally show up and start within a week.)
Yeah, Tyrone! 🙂
I wouldn’t mind if they brought him and/or Schwartz back as quality backups when they get healthy and if they want to play some more…and providing the price is right.
They absolutely cannot wait that long. Saw a study that showed the average return time for that injury, at Fish’s position, was 344 days. Not a math genius, but 344 days from surgery doesn’t leave him much season left to help out.
Fish as a late-season plug and play? They’ve brought multiple guys back to fill in when needed, including that one Black guy who seemed to be a roster yo-yo. Bell’s another returning player, so there are some possibilities.
Schwartz may be another matter. Every back injury is unique, in its way, so if we wanted to do the math, the devil’s in the details. At any rate, one thing Veach has excelled at, far beyond Dorsey or any of them back to King Carl, is how he handles departing players. Nobody’s going away disgruntled, all speak glowingly of the organization, and those who return are glad to come back. That’s rather remarkable, if you think about how things usually work with NFL GMs. Maclin may have been our last bad breakup.
Very true. When we cut Damien Williams, he seemed pretty devastated. Not angry or betrayed, just really sad. That told me a lot about how well he felt had been treated in KC.
I actively taught both kids that having good breakup skills is important to having good relationships over the long term. Look at it this way, when marriages fail, what percentage of them are semi-hostile or worse? It stands to reason that those couples did not have good breakup skills, and it’s related to how the relationship disintegrated.
The more I think of it, the harder it becomes to think of a GM who has Veach’s talent, in this regard. Who else has a track record with so few unhappy players leaving?
Good point. I guess it’s possiblewe just don’t see/hear enough about some of the other good GMs who may be under the radar. But clearly, Reid and Veach both understand and agree on the importance of treating players well.
I still remember a Reid quote from early in his tenure here, ‘Ultimately, we’re in the people business.’. And these days, it shows.
Valuing a win-win situation.
I recall Dorsey getting fired over his poor treatment of players. His bungling of the Maclin situation especially.
If he wants to sign for the vet minimum right now, I would hope the Chiefs bring him in. Put him on IR, and let him rehab with our staff. Then if he is healthy by December, we can activate him to be our swing backup. Then he can enter free agency next year completely healthy and able to sign for what he is worth.
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The Chiefs having $20 million in cap space is a sign their offseason went wrong.
“ I suffer from panic attacks, anxiety and depression. I’m in counseling as a result of Deshaun Watson’s actions. I hope he knows how much pain he’s inflicted on me emotionally and physically. And I hope he knows how much pain he’s inflicted on these other survivors.”
Does anyone know what it is alleged that he actually did?
Maybe I just have no idea what it’s like, but panic attacks, anxiety, and depression? Really?
I’m no expert, but I think it can be a lot worse for women because there’s that knowledge that he’s bigger and stronger and the situation could get worse without her being able to do anything. Like imagine if you were being sexually harassed by some huge muscle man who you know could easily overpower you if he wanted.
That’s pretty much how I understand it as well. I think it’s very common for people that have gone through something traumatic, to have very serious long-term consequences. It obviously varies greatly from person to person, but it’s 100% legitimate.
Yeah I clearly don’t understand things like this. I’ve been in a few situations where I’ve felt physically threatened, but then I pretty much just forget about it after that. Has no lasting impact.
Maybe it’s the thought that it could happen again at any time, from anyone, whereas for me it’s only rare situations where I have to worry about someone being a threat to me?
I still have a hard time believing that Watson managed to do this to 22 or more women without running into one woman that physically resisted or immediately posted the bad encounter on social media.
Part of why I’m not jumping to any conclusions with him, and I said the number was curiously high back at 16 or 18.
After all, there are still folks out there who believe that Hill broke his son’s arm. They jumped to a conclusion and stayed there. Too fearful of swimming through the Sea of Knowledge to get back to reality, I guess.
I would love to proclaim him guilty and be able to make fun of the Texans franchise over this whole ordeal, but there are way too many variables for me to feel comfortable doing that to him yet.
I’m not condemning him….but I’m having a difficult time seeing how he, at the very least, wasn’t massively inappropriate with two dozen women.
LOL…Fish and Schwartz are BROKEN and they are still ranked higher than a healthy Reiter.
Make sure Mahomes has the yellow jersey on in practice
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From pff 4. T WALKER LITTLE, STANFORDBiggest pro: Mirror abilityLittle’s short shuttle (4.58) and three-cone (7.43) at his pro day came as absolutely no surprise to anybody who has studied his tape. Those two marks sit in the 82nd and 89th percentile, respectively, among past tackle prospects. His agility and mirror are precisely what teams want at offensive tackle. The only question is, will his physical traits be enough for teams to overlook his lack of playing time and trust the small stretch of quality play in his collegiate career? Biggest con: Not playing for two yearsThere isn’t a more boom-or-bust prospect in this class than Walker Little. Once a highly coveted five-star recruit back in 2017, he has made only 19 starts since, with only one coming over the last two years. He suffered a season-ending injury in Stanford’s 2019 opener and decided to opt out of the 2020 season and focus on the 2021 NFL Draft. Little did look like he was on the path to stardom before that. Over his final seven college games — one in 2019 and six in 2018 — he earned a 93.3 pass-block grade and allowed pressure on just 0.4% of his pass-blocking snaps. Things would be different if that stretch were twice as long and more recent, but the fact that he has just one game under his belt in over two and a half years will give teams pause when considering him in Round 1. 8. T SAMUEL COSMI, TEXASBiggest pro: Natural athleticismRelative to his position, Cosmi is one of the best all-around athletes in the 2021 NFL Draft class. Just take a look at his numbers he posted a few weeks ago with the percentile he sits at compared to tackle prospects historically: Height: 6-foot-6 (62nd percentile) Weight: 314 pounds (58th) Arm: 33 inches (13th) Vertical: 30 inches (69th) Broad jump: 117 inches (98th) Bench: 36 reps (98th) 40-yard dash: 4.84 seconds (98th) Short shuttle: 4.39 seconds (98th) Three-cone: 7.35 seconds (94th) It was one of the most dominant pro-day performances of the year. His mirror ability is special for a man of his… Read more »
I think I’m going to revive Friday Nights at the Movies. I can’t guarantee every week, but when I have time it’s fun to review a movie.
So which is a better topic, bad movies that I trash or good movies that I praise?
Both.
I can write up a few reviews in advance to fill in whenever you need fillers. I have a few obscure movies I want to share.
That’d be fantastic.
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New Movie release 🙂
Here’s one coming out:
A Mortal Kombat movie? My first reaction is that it’s sure to be terrible, but I thought the same about that Jumanji reboot and it ended up being really good.
I have access to watching any movie – before it releases to public
I’m starting to wonder if there’s anything you don’t have access to.
really he’s CIA but he can’t tell us or. . .
The new Mortal Kombat looks awesome. I want to take my son to the theater to see it, but he is only 9 and it is supposed to be a hard R rating. We will just watch it at home, away from all the judgemental looks.
Bad movies. Most people can tell a good movie when they see one, and a bad one too. But bad ones can also be so bad that they are good. And sharing this information can lead to others learning of an otherwise horrible movie, one that would have been avoided.
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Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like a lot of the QBs at the top of this draft are going to be overrated
Id say one will make it big, and it likely wont be the one that was hyped up since the 7th grade
I was just talking to a friend about how important coaching and organation has to do with a QB’s success. QBs drafted in the top five often are entering a toxic or dysfunctional environment. It’s no wonder that so many fail.
Surely if you’re a QB this year you’d rather go 3rd (SF) than 1st or 2nd (JAX, NYJ)
Absolutely. I have so much respect for the 49ers. I’ll still be shocked if they take Mac Jones at #3, but man, they’ve got some talent there. They were devastated by injuries last year, but it wouldn’t shock me if they make another NFC Championship run this year.
I’m curious to see how Urban Meyer does at Jacksonville, but yeah, I’d choose SF easily.
I am not so sure. San Fran is a bit overhyped in my opinion. Jax could be the best situation.
I’m not big into minor league football but trading up for Mac Jones? Really?
Yeah, seriously. I’m still not sold that Jones is the pick at #3, but if he is….wow.
I’m not even that high on Justin Fields but I would still take him over Mac freaking Jones of all people. Trey Lance is also superior to Jones.
The Chiefs should find a way to move up to pick 10 or 11
Whether Left Tackle or WR, we have needs at both
I’ll take left tackle for$500 bob…
Could just be me but I feel the line is a more pressing issue than WR. Mahomes can make plays with his feet, if push comes to shove downfield, but without a line he’ll be wearing more than a boot on his foot before we’re even halfway through the season.
Yeah, I agree. Give Mahomes time and he’ll work his magic with whatever receivers we have.
The line may be a more pressing issue, but it’s not like the Chiefs only have one pick in the draft. I imagine they’ll take their highest rated C, OT, WR or EDGE that’s on the board.
agree, but
I think the Chiefs are kinda at a strange spot
a rebuild while also the AFC favorite to make the Super Bowl
The O-line did us no favors in the Super Bowl but our Offensive weapons also seemed limited in that game
We just let Watkins walk and we need a viable Cheap WR to keep this Offense going
I am all for if the Chiefs have a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round they desire
I’m not sure how upset I would be if they drafted WR before OL but I’m guessing a lot.
Really? Honestly, I could easily see them draft a WR in the first round, especially if Bateman or Marshall is available.
Then I hope prior to the draft someone rewatches the complete embarrassment of an OL this team started in the SB and realizes we still aren’t that much better.
I imagine Veach’s preference is to grab a LT at #31, but one that he likes has to be available.
I saw Andrew luck’s career get destroyed by a lack of focus on protection until it was too late. Let’s not make the same mistake as the Colts please.
I was upset and surprised we drafted a RB in the first round last year. I would not be surprised at all if we picked a WR at 31. I’d rather get a LT.
But hypothetically, what happens if the LTs that Veach likes are gone and the best ones available he has a 3rd round grade on? Should he still take one then?
Yes….
no…
Yes, no, maybe…
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No……
What …
we can trade back
not just take a 3rd round talent in the 1st round
Don’t pay much attention to college ball, and no one is saying that. If there’s a couple of monster LT’s make sure we get one. Trade up if necessary.
Most draft guys say there are three stud LTs, and they’re expected to go in the top dozen picks or so. Then there are a couple more that seem to be mid-to-late first round guys, although scouts don’t seem to have a consensus there.
I want Cosmi …would be my pick at 31
From what I’ve read about him, he really sounds like a Veach guy. Three year starter and has played both tackle spots.
I would be happy with Cosmi
He would have Thuney next to him
If he is there, I will hack into the draft system and submit the card myself.
If I were to pick five of the most likely players we’ll take at #31, Cosmi would be on the list, along with Terrace Marshall and Creed Humphrey.
I would like any of those three on the roster.
I feel with the signing of Blythe, we might push off finding a long term C for another season.
The crazy thing about this draft is the top 15 is going to be filled with QBs and WRs allowing some great talents to fall to us. I mess around on mock draft sites all the time, and there is always a few players at 31 I love.
I agree – there will definitely be a few good players at #31. Hopefully at positions that we need!
I was going to remove Humphrey from my list, but he’s so perfect for us – long-term starter, super athletic, very smart – exactly the kind of guy Reid would love to have snapping to Mahomes and calling out protections for the next ten years. I imagine you’re right though, especially considering our other needs.
We can grab one and he can sit on the bench which does not help our ultimate goal of a third straight Super Bowl appearance
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/lists/kansas-city-chiefs-2021-free-agency-offensive-line-depth-chart-early-projection/
Remmers re-signing really set the entire depth chart into motion. His agent says that he’ll be the starter, but it’s more likely that this will be an open competition with an unproven player like Niang.
Prior to today, Niang was the projected starter at right tackle. The third-round draft pick in 2020 opted out of the season due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but he is expected to return in 2021. There’s plenty of optimism that he’ll be able to rise to the occasion and earn the job, but it’s far from a guarantee. Pitting him against a veteran like Remmers ensures that you’ll get the best possible product on the field.
Trade up
That’s my plan..
Great minds brother
Veach definitely is willing to make a move to get his guy. But we also have to keep in mind that we need a trade partner and would likely have to give up significant draft capital to move up.
Hypothetical trade up:
KC gives: 31, 63
NYJ give: 23, 107
KC picks:
1st – 23
2nd –
3rd – 94
4th – 107, 136, 144
5th – 175, 181
6th – 207
NYJ picks:
1st – 2, 31
2nd – 34, 63
3rd – 66, 86
4th –
5th – 146, 154
6th – 186, 226
Trade Totals
KC Gives Value: 876
NYJ Gives Value: 840
Gain/Loss %
KC: -4.11%
NYJ: +4.29%
I guess it would depend if one of Veah’s targets is there. Like, if Veach thinks that X-player could be a legit high-level 10-year starter at LT, then I have no doubt that he’ll try to trade up to get him.
Well, no. If that happens, then we should pick the best available for what we need.
Is the guy with the third round grade better than the current options at LT? If so, I don’t care about it being considered a reach. We will have made an upgrade at the 2nd most important position on the offense.
I’m sure we’ll all be 100% satisfied with how the draft plays out. 🙂
If one of the top 3 WRs somehow were available, I would happily take one.
Watkins is gone, Hardman has been underwhelming, and D-Rob is a JAG. I’d love to give Mahomes another elite WR for at least the next 5 years.
I really think Terrace Marshall could be another Justin Jefferson. Imagine having a weapon like that to go with Tyreek and Kelce. To me, it all hinges on our ability to settle the LT question should we pass on one at #31.
It’s really going to be a fascinating draft. I can’t wait!
Me too. Some of my football friends think I’m crazy because I get excited about the draft. But I truly love it.
you have friends?
I’ve always wondered what that must be like.
They probably consider themselves “acquaintances.” But I was trying to sound cool.