Tuesday Night O/T: Will this be the most predictable draft ever?

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The NFL draft has become one of the most watched sporting events in the world. Even though it’s literally just a dumpy middle aged man reading a list of names off a card, the intrigue of what teams will do creates a lot of drama.

But this year the drama may be a little less. As our own user mock draft has predicted, it seems more and more likely that the top 4 picks will be quarterbacks. And we’ll even know who those quarterbacks are.

The first pick will be Lawrence. Although many people like Wilson better, the convectional wisdom is that Lawrence is a generational prospect and he has been penciled into this spot for years.

The second pick is a little more open, but it seems Wilson is gaining traction as the consensus next best quarterback.

The 49ers gave up a kings ransom to the Dolphins to move up to the 3rd pick, so it’d be shocking if they drafted a position other than quarterback. And that quarterback is apparently Mac Jones.

Then we get to the 4th pick, where apparently several teams are interested in moving up to. Like the 49ers, if a team moves up it’s hard to imagine them picking a position other than quarterback.

By the time the draft arrives we could have the first hour in the bag before it starts.

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3rdnlong
3rdnlong
04/06/2021 10:25 pm

I don’t think this will be the most predictable draft by any means. The main reason is because of the weird college football season this year and the lack of a centralized combine. There are going to be players drafted on upside who didn’t play this last year at all, and who knows what schools any one team went and visited for pro days, let alone all teams? There’s always some draft pick in the 1st round that’s a head scratcher. I think this year will see even more.

larch
larch
04/06/2021 10:20 pm

The Eric Berry years feel like a long time ago.

pompano
Reply to  larch
04/06/2021 10:49 pm

The days drag longer and the years fly faster…getting old sucks balls.

larch
larch
04/06/2021 10:01 pm

The idea of best player available in the draft: does each team create an overall rank of athletes based on proof of performance and potential regardless of position? Even so it would be hard for a team not to lean towards certain positions of need. Take the Chiefs, consensus here it seems is OL, WR or Edge in the first round, but what if it turns out to be a TE or Safety or LB ostensibly because BPA, how upset might one be? I suppose that depends on the athlete selected. Veach picked RB at 32 last year but I’ve seen in past discussions here a general downgrading of the importance of RBs in early rounds. Just musing in print.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  larch
04/06/2021 10:08 pm

I am sure they rank each player individually, but when it comes time to choose, the team puts an emphasis on position of need.

The beauty of football is that almost every position, the 2nd string player still gets a lot of game reps. So drafting BPA, you still can find a way to get him on the field.

pompano
04/06/2021 9:38 pm

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
04/06/2021 9:31 pm

LMAOOOO

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
04/06/2021 8:50 pm

Leach is a great follow on Twitter. So random.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 8:56 pm

I shall attend to it.

Snafu
Snafu
04/06/2021 7:38 pm

Anyone think there’s a plan to use Fisher as a late re-sign if he shows progress and they can’t get the LT they want. I mean, if they just settle for someone and he’s around, he’d be good insurance.

Tyrone
Reply to  Snafu
04/06/2021 7:41 pm

No

Snafu
Snafu
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 7:51 pm

I’m not suggesting they do it unless things are rather bleak.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Snafu
04/06/2021 8:00 pm

The Chiefs organization obviously had a good relationship with Fisher and Schwartz both. While I don’t think the Chiefs plan on bringing either one back, should the situation present itself that a reunion is beneficial for one or the other, I don’t think there’d be any problem. (I mean, imagine that whoever we have at LT gets injured in November and Fisher looks to be healthy and hasn’t been signed by anyone. I imagine Veach would jump at the chance to bring him back.) So while I think it’s a longshot, I wouldn’t discount the possibility.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 8:06 pm

I was going to say “when do we ever bring a guy back after letting him go”, but then I remembered Colquitt.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 8:13 pm

Yeah, I still think it’s unlikely, BUT we just don’t know how our OL might look in September….or November/December. If Fisher is healthy and available, I see no reason why Veach wouldn’t welcome him back with open arms. (He already knows our offense perfectly, so if healthy, he could literally show up and start within a week.)

Snafu
Snafu
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 8:10 pm

Yeah, Tyrone! 🙂

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Snafu
04/06/2021 8:44 pm

I wouldn’t mind if they brought him and/or Schwartz back as quality backups when they get healthy and if they want to play some more…and providing the price is right.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Snafu
04/06/2021 8:43 pm

They absolutely cannot wait that long. Saw a study that showed the average return time for that injury, at Fish’s position, was 344 days. Not a math genius, but 344 days from surgery doesn’t leave him much season left to help out.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  SCKSChief
04/06/2021 9:07 pm

Fish as a late-season plug and play? They’ve brought multiple guys back to fill in when needed, including that one Black guy who seemed to be a roster yo-yo. Bell’s another returning player, so there are some possibilities.

Schwartz may be another matter. Every back injury is unique, in its way, so if we wanted to do the math, the devil’s in the details. At any rate, one thing Veach has excelled at, far beyond Dorsey or any of them back to King Carl, is how he handles departing players. Nobody’s going away disgruntled, all speak glowingly of the organization, and those who return are glad to come back. That’s rather remarkable, if you think about how things usually work with NFL GMs. Maclin may have been our last bad breakup.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 9:17 pm

Very true. When we cut Damien Williams, he seemed pretty devastated. Not angry or betrayed, just really sad. That told me a lot about how well he felt had been treated in KC.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:24 pm

I actively taught both kids that having good breakup skills is important to having good relationships over the long term. Look at it this way, when marriages fail, what percentage of them are semi-hostile or worse? It stands to reason that those couples did not have good breakup skills, and it’s related to how the relationship disintegrated.

The more I think of it, the harder it becomes to think of a GM who has Veach’s talent, in this regard. Who else has a track record with so few unhappy players leaving?

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 9:26 pm

Good point. I guess it’s possiblewe just don’t see/hear enough about some of the other good GMs who may be under the radar. But clearly, Reid and Veach both understand and agree on the importance of treating players well.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:39 pm

I still remember a Reid quote from early in his tenure here, ‘Ultimately, we’re in the people business.’. And these days, it shows.

larch
larch
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:45 pm

Valuing a win-win situation.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 11:37 pm

I recall Dorsey getting fired over his poor treatment of players. His bungling of the Maclin situation especially.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 9:28 pm

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pompano
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 10:17 pm
Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Snafu
04/06/2021 8:50 pm

If he wants to sign for the vet minimum right now, I would hope the Chiefs bring him in. Put him on IR, and let him rehab with our staff. Then if he is healthy by December, we can activate him to be our swing backup. Then he can enter free agency next year completely healthy and able to sign for what he is worth.

zulu trader
zulu trader
04/06/2021 7:38 pm

Gregg Rosenthal
@greggrosenthal
The Chiefs having $20 million in cap space is a sign their offseason went wrong.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:37 pm

Tyrone
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:48 pm

 I suffer from panic attacks, anxiety and depression. I’m in counseling as a result of Deshaun Watson’s actions. I hope he knows how much pain he’s inflicted on me emotionally and physically. And I hope he knows how much pain he’s inflicted on these other survivors.”

Does anyone know what it is alleged that he actually did?

Maybe I just have no idea what it’s like, but panic attacks, anxiety, and depression? Really?

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 8:02 pm

That’s pretty much how I understand it as well. I think it’s very common for people that have gone through something traumatic, to have very serious long-term consequences. It obviously varies greatly from person to person, but it’s 100% legitimate.

Tyrone
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 8:03 pm

Yeah I clearly don’t understand things like this. I’ve been in a few situations where I’ve felt physically threatened, but then I pretty much just forget about it after that. Has no lasting impact.

Maybe it’s the thought that it could happen again at any time, from anyone, whereas for me it’s only rare situations where I have to worry about someone being a threat to me?

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 8:58 pm

I still have a hard time believing that Watson managed to do this to 22 or more women without running into one woman that physically resisted or immediately posted the bad encounter on social media.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 9:28 pm

Part of why I’m not jumping to any conclusions with him, and I said the number was curiously high back at 16 or 18.

After all, there are still folks out there who believe that Hill broke his son’s arm. They jumped to a conclusion and stayed there. Too fearful of swimming through the Sea of Knowledge to get back to reality, I guess.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 9:32 pm

I would love to proclaim him guilty and be able to make fun of the Texans franchise over this whole ordeal, but there are way too many variables for me to feel comfortable doing that to him yet.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 9:34 pm

I’m not condemning him….but I’m having a difficult time seeing how he, at the very least, wasn’t massively inappropriate with two dozen women.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:33 pm

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 8:45 pm

LOL…Fish and Schwartz are BROKEN and they are still ranked higher than a healthy Reiter.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:30 pm

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:29 pm

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 8:59 pm

Make sure Mahomes has the yellow jersey on in practice

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:28 pm

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 8:13 pm

She’s amazing, not only because she’s a brilliant artist, but because she has 6 kids and still looks like she’s in college. Her artwork is second to none.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  MasterChief
04/06/2021 8:16 pm

She has six kids? Wow, yeah, I would have thought college aged too.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 8:19 pm

Maybe it’s a Brady Bunch situation, but I do believe she has mentioned having 6 kids. 😲

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 8:46 pm

Incredible talent.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:20 pm

Think I’m going to be an Author for AG.

I’ve been kicking around the idea since Anthony started this site, day 1. Him and I were emailing back & forth – back in the day day.

I have a few ideas on Topics 🙂

When I had pizza stores in Denver. One of my stores was the #1 store people ordered from in the ENTIRE state of Colorado for pizza – via GrubHub. Daddy knows SEO and many other items.

SEO = search engine optimization | for the peeps that No Habla 🙂 🙂

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:26 pm

I’m ready for ya — bring it!

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  zulu trader
04/06/2021 7:37 pm

LOL

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 8:45 pm

Works for me. Right now, I’m just above the point where I’d run obituaries, if I had nothing else to work with.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 10:52 pm

Now you tell me!

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 7:00 pm

From pff 4. T WALKER LITTLE, STANFORDBiggest pro: Mirror abilityLittle’s short shuttle (4.58) and three-cone (7.43) at his pro day came as absolutely no surprise to anybody who has studied his tape. Those two marks sit in the 82nd and 89th percentile, respectively, among past tackle prospects. His agility and mirror are precisely what teams want at offensive tackle. The only question is, will his physical traits be enough for teams to overlook his lack of playing time and trust the small stretch of quality play in his collegiate career? Biggest con: Not playing for two yearsThere isn’t a more boom-or-bust prospect in this class than Walker Little. Once a highly coveted five-star recruit back in 2017, he has made only 19 starts since, with only one coming over the last two years. He suffered a season-ending injury in Stanford’s 2019 opener and decided to opt out of the 2020 season and focus on the 2021 NFL Draft. Little did look like he was on the path to stardom before that. Over his final seven college games — one in 2019 and six in 2018 — he earned a 93.3 pass-block grade and allowed pressure on just 0.4% of his pass-blocking snaps. Things would be different if that stretch were twice as long and more recent, but the fact that he has just one game under his belt in over two and a half years will give teams pause when considering him in Round 1. 8. T SAMUEL COSMI, TEXASBiggest pro: Natural athleticismRelative to his position, Cosmi is one of the best all-around athletes in the 2021 NFL Draft class. Just take a look at his numbers he posted a few weeks ago with the percentile he sits at compared to tackle prospects historically: Height: 6-foot-6 (62nd percentile) Weight: 314 pounds (58th) Arm: 33 inches (13th) Vertical: 30 inches (69th) Broad jump: 117 inches (98th) Bench: 36 reps (98th) 40-yard dash: 4.84 seconds (98th) Short shuttle: 4.39 seconds (98th) Three-cone: 7.35 seconds (94th) It was one of the most dominant pro-day performances of the year. His mirror ability is special for a man of his… Read more »

Tyrone
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 7:12 pm

Both.

I can write up a few reviews in advance to fill in whenever you need fillers. I have a few obscure movies I want to share.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 8:46 pm

Wizards?

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
04/06/2021 8:49 pm

classic. test run for the animated LOTR.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 7:15 pm

New Movie release 🙂

Here’s one coming out:

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 7:21 pm

I have access to watching any movie – before it releases to public

Tyrone
Reply to  gonzangkc11
04/06/2021 7:40 pm

I’m starting to wonder if there’s anything you don’t have access to.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 7:45 pm

really he’s CIA but he can’t tell us or. . .

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 9:36 pm

The new Mortal Kombat looks awesome. I want to take my son to the theater to see it, but he is only 9 and it is supposed to be a hard R rating. We will just watch it at home, away from all the judgemental looks.

Grassy_Knoll
Grassy_Knoll
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 7:18 pm

Bad movies. Most people can tell a good movie when they see one, and a bad one too. But bad ones can also be so bad that they are good. And sharing this information can lead to others learning of an otherwise horrible movie, one that would have been avoided.

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 6:29 pm

I said who ????😊

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 6:59 pm

saw these guys live, back in the day

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Tony Sommer
04/06/2021 7:11 pm

back at ya

kcfreak725
04/06/2021 6:18 pm

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like a lot of the QBs at the top of this draft are going to be overrated

slackator
slackator
Reply to  kcfreak725
04/06/2021 7:58 pm

Id say one will make it big, and it likely wont be the one that was hyped up since the 7th grade

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  slackator
04/06/2021 8:04 pm

I was just talking to a friend about how important coaching and organation has to do with a QB’s success. QBs drafted in the top five often are entering a toxic or dysfunctional environment. It’s no wonder that so many fail.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:40 pm

Surely if you’re a QB this year you’d rather go 3rd (SF) than 1st or 2nd (JAX, NYJ)

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 9:43 pm

Absolutely. I have so much respect for the 49ers. I’ll still be shocked if they take Mac Jones at #3, but man, they’ve got some talent there. They were devastated by injuries last year, but it wouldn’t shock me if they make another NFC Championship run this year.

I’m curious to see how Urban Meyer does at Jacksonville, but yeah, I’d choose SF easily.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 9:44 pm

I am not so sure. San Fran is a bit overhyped in my opinion. Jax could be the best situation.

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan
04/06/2021 6:08 pm

I’m not big into minor league football but trading up for Mac Jones? Really?

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
04/06/2021 6:12 pm

Yeah, seriously. I’m still not sold that Jones is the pick at #3, but if he is….wow.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 11:41 pm

I’m not even that high on Justin Fields but I would still take him over Mac freaking Jones of all people. Trey Lance is also superior to Jones.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 5:45 pm

The Chiefs should find a way to move up to pick 10 or 11

Whether Left Tackle or WR, we have needs at both

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 5:47 pm

I’ll take left tackle for$500 bob…

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 5:48 pm

Could just be me but I feel the line is a more pressing issue than WR. Mahomes can make plays with his feet, if push comes to shove downfield, but without a line he’ll be wearing more than a boot on his foot before we’re even halfway through the season.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Nasrani
04/06/2021 5:51 pm

Yeah, I agree. Give Mahomes time and he’ll work his magic with whatever receivers we have.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Nasrani
04/06/2021 5:52 pm

The line may be a more pressing issue, but it’s not like the Chiefs only have one pick in the draft. I imagine they’ll take their highest rated C, OT, WR or EDGE that’s on the board.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Nasrani
04/06/2021 5:53 pm

agree, but

I think the Chiefs are kinda at a strange spot

a rebuild while also the AFC favorite to make the Super Bowl

The O-line did us no favors in the Super Bowl but our Offensive weapons also seemed limited in that game

We just let Watkins walk and we need a viable Cheap WR to keep this Offense going

I am all for if the Chiefs have a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round they desire

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 6:04 pm

I’m not sure how upset I would be if they drafted WR before OL but I’m guessing a lot.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
04/06/2021 6:05 pm

Really? Honestly, I could easily see them draft a WR in the first round, especially if Bateman or Marshall is available.

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:12 pm

Then I hope prior to the draft someone rewatches the complete embarrassment of an OL this team started in the SB and realizes we still aren’t that much better.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
04/06/2021 6:15 pm

I imagine Veach’s preference is to grab a LT at #31, but one that he likes has to be available.

Plus Name and Plus Name
Plus Name and Plus Name
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 11:42 pm

I saw Andrew luck’s career get destroyed by a lack of focus on protection until it was too late. Let’s not make the same mistake as the Colts please.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
04/06/2021 6:09 pm

I was upset and surprised we drafted a RB in the first round last year. I would not be surprised at all if we picked a WR at 31. I’d rather get a LT.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  MasterChief
04/06/2021 6:12 pm

But hypothetically, what happens if the LTs that Veach likes are gone and the best ones available he has a 3rd round grade on? Should he still take one then?

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:16 pm

Yes….

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 7:02 pm

no…

Snafu
Snafu
Reply to  zulu trader
04/06/2021 7:34 pm

Yes, no, maybe…
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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:20 pm

No……

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 6:24 pm

What …

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 6:32 pm

we can trade back

not just take a 3rd round talent in the 1st round

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  steve_chiefs
04/06/2021 6:37 pm

Don’t pay much attention to college ball, and no one is saying that. If there’s a couple of monster LT’s make sure we get one. Trade up if necessary.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/06/2021 6:42 pm

Most draft guys say there are three stud LTs, and they’re expected to go in the top dozen picks or so. Then there are a couple more that seem to be mid-to-late first round guys, although scouts don’t seem to have a consensus there.

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:49 pm

I want Cosmi …would be my pick at 31

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 6:51 pm

From what I’ve read about him, he really sounds like a Veach guy. Three year starter and has played both tackle spots.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:55 pm

I would be happy with Cosmi

He would have Thuney next to him

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 9:13 pm

If he is there, I will hack into the draft system and submit the card myself.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 9:15 pm

If I were to pick five of the most likely players we’ll take at #31, Cosmi would be on the list, along with Terrace Marshall and Creed Humphrey.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:21 pm

I would like any of those three on the roster.

I feel with the signing of Blythe, we might push off finding a long term C for another season.

The crazy thing about this draft is the top 15 is going to be filled with QBs and WRs allowing some great talents to fall to us. I mess around on mock draft sites all the time, and there is always a few players at 31 I love.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 9:24 pm

I agree – there will definitely be a few good players at #31. Hopefully at positions that we need!

I was going to remove Humphrey from my list, but he’s so perfect for us – long-term starter, super athletic, very smart – exactly the kind of guy Reid would love to have snapping to Mahomes and calling out protections for the next ten years. I imagine you’re right though, especially considering our other needs.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/06/2021 6:42 pm

We can grab one and he can sit on the bench which does not help our ultimate goal of a third straight Super Bowl appearance

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/lists/kansas-city-chiefs-2021-free-agency-offensive-line-depth-chart-early-projection/

Remmers re-signing really set the entire depth chart into motion. His agent says that he’ll be the starter, but it’s more likely that this will be an open competition with an unproven player like Niang.
Prior to today, Niang was the projected starter at right tackle. The third-round draft pick in 2020 opted out of the season due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but he is expected to return in 2021. There’s plenty of optimism that he’ll be able to rise to the occasion and earn the job, but it’s far from a guarantee. Pitting him against a veteran like Remmers ensures that you’ll get the best possible product on the field.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 6:26 pm

Trade up

Last edited 14 days ago by probablyamistake
rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/06/2021 6:30 pm

That’s my plan..

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  rip58lovealways
04/06/2021 6:31 pm

Great minds brother

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  probablyamistake
04/06/2021 6:40 pm

Veach definitely is willing to make a move to get his guy. But we also have to keep in mind that we need a trade partner and would likely have to give up significant draft capital to move up.

Tyrone
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 7:02 pm

Hypothetical trade up:

KC gives: 31, 63
NYJ give: 23, 107

KC picks:
1st – 23
2nd –
3rd – 94
4th – 107, 136, 144
5th – 175, 181
6th – 207

NYJ picks:
1st – 2, 31
2nd – 34, 63
3rd – 66, 86
4th –
5th – 146, 154
6th – 186, 226

Tyrone
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 7:05 pm

Trade Totals
KC Gives Value:   876
NYJ Gives Value:   840

Gain/Loss %
KC:   -4.11%
NYJ:   +4.29%

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 7:05 pm

I guess it would depend if one of Veah’s targets is there. Like, if Veach thinks that X-player could be a legit high-level 10-year starter at LT, then I have no doubt that he’ll try to trade up to get him.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 7:01 pm

Well, no. If that happens, then we should pick the best available for what we need.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 9:11 pm

Is the guy with the third round grade better than the current options at LT? If so, I don’t care about it being considered a reach. We will have made an upgrade at the 2nd most important position on the offense.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Severely Concussed
04/06/2021 9:14 pm

I’m sure we’ll all be 100% satisfied with how the draft plays out. 🙂

Tyrone
Reply to  MasterChief
04/06/2021 6:43 pm

If one of the top 3 WRs somehow were available, I would happily take one.

Watkins is gone, Hardman has been underwhelming, and D-Rob is a JAG. I’d love to give Mahomes another elite WR for at least the next 5 years.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  Tyrone
04/06/2021 6:46 pm

I really think Terrace Marshall could be another Justin Jefferson. Imagine having a weapon like that to go with Tyreek and Kelce. To me, it all hinges on our ability to settle the LT question should we pass on one at #31.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 7:03 pm

It’s really going to be a fascinating draft. I can’t wait!

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  MasterChief
04/06/2021 7:06 pm

Me too. Some of my football friends think I’m crazy because I get excited about the draft. But I truly love it.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Mattl
04/06/2021 7:13 pm

you have friends?

Tyrone
Reply to  zulu trader
04/06/2021 7:14 pm

I’ve always wondered what that must be like.

Mattl
Mattl
Reply to  zulu trader
04/06/2021 7:17 pm

They probably consider themselves “acquaintances.” But I was trying to sound cool.

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