Tuesday Night O/T: The Chiefs playoff run was more dominant than you realize

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Arrowhead Guys talk about anything.

The Chiefs’ dramatic comebacks in the playoffs are well known, but the fact that they were comebacks and not blowouts from the start has made people underrate the Chiefs a bit. Consider if each game had happened in reverse.

Divisional: The Chiefs build a big lead early, going into halftime up 24-7, then really go off in the 3rd quarter to build a massive 51-7 lead. The Texans score some touchdowns to end the game, but are never even remotely competitive.

AFC Championship: The Titans score the first touchdown, but the Chiefs go into halftime up 14-7. The game gets broken open in the 3rd and early 4th quarter with the Chiefs building a 35-14 lead that the Titans never come come particularly close to overcoming.

Super Bowl: The Chiefs explode to a 1st quarter 21-0 lead, which the 49ers cut to 21-10 by halftime. It gets close at 21-17 in the 3rd quarter, but the Chiefs pull away again to 31-17, after which the 49ers only manage a field goal.

Same exact games, but in the reverse world the narrative is suddenly that the Chiefs were an unstoppable force that cruised through the playoffs without much issue. But because they were comebacks instead, the games felt much more difficult than they really were. The Chiefs were the first team since the 2002 Buccaneers to win every playoff game by double digits, but it seems like it’s treated as a normal playoff run.

 

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Rickrock58
Rickrock58
07/29/2020 7:10 am

Lo

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/28/2020 9:22 pm

Chris Trapasso
@ChrisTrapasso
Because this has been going around since the Adams trade: Top safety pairings in the NFL

5. Jamal Adams / Quandre Diggs
4. Juan Thornhill / Tyrann Mathieu
3. Micah Hyde / Jordan Poyer
2. Justin Simmons / Kareem Jackson
1. Harrison Smith / Anthony Harris

upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
07/29/2020 2:08 am

that … that right there’s BS, that’s what THAT is

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/28/2020 9:20 pm

Kansas City Chiefs
@Chiefs
The Landlord makes his return to the Top 100 at #39

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zulu trader
zulu trader
07/28/2020 9:19 pm

Robert Mays
@robertmays
The “what if” questions never really bother me because I think they’re kinda silly. But every time I see a photoshop of Patrick Mahomes in a Bears jersey, a little part of my soul dies. With luck, I’ll eventually be so dead inside that it can’t hurt anymore.

SB Nation
@SBNation
Patrick Mahomes’ 2020:
• won a Super Bowl
• made Whataburger expand to Kansas City
• got a 10-year, $503-million extension
• is now part owner of the Kansas City Royals

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zulu trader
zulu trader
07/28/2020 9:16 pm

Terez A. Paylor
@TerezPaylor
The Chiefs have agreed to a deal with safety Tedric Thompson, a source tells @YahooSports

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/28/2020 9:14 pm
Nasrani
Nasrani
07/28/2020 7:58 pm

Hearing news reports that Peter Green, the original guitarist of Fleetwood Mac (not during their soft-rock period), passed on Saturday at age 73.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21cV7vgZvg

Rest in peace.

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  Nasrani
07/28/2020 8:04 pm

Yes sad, what a great band.. times ticking on all of us..

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Nasrani
07/28/2020 8:53 pm

RIP:

upamtn
Reply to  Nasrani
07/29/2020 2:11 am

yah, saw that the other day … sad, guy was a genius, nuttier than a fruitcake, but a musical genius

Sudden
Sudden
07/28/2020 7:21 pm

It’s gonna be hilarious when some random team like the A’s wins the world series and Astros fans say it doesn’t count because shortened season lol

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Sudden
07/28/2020 8:28 pm

#TooSoon ☹

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:03 pm

Another slugfest

I think the Royals and Tigers should play 60 games against each other……

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:03 pm

I’d be cool with that if they all turn out like last night.

upamtn
07/28/2020 7:00 pm

welp, looks like the Cancel Culture thing has arrived at Arrowhead Guys … come on, Tony, alternative facts aren’t facts … things COULD have happened that way but they didn’t, and personally I think the way it DID happen was WAY better than your “alternative ending”

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 7:06 pm

true … but you can’t change what happened, so you can’t REALLY change the narrative … and KC was definitely “on the edge of losing” before WASP

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
07/28/2020 7:08 pm

You are killing my whole Military history wargame experience…..

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:10 pm

Did you know that AG puts out an occasional war/battle related article from time to time? I wonder if that is done now or if there are any more planned?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
07/28/2020 7:14 pm

What with the slowdown everything’s harder for me, but I plan on bringing it back but getting a banner pic together for it’s been a roadblock that’s affected my ability to edit for it. Got a piece on that spike right now, but I’m considering a filler piece for tomorrow, so we’ll see.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 7:37 pm

They are high quality, so don’t rush it. 😉

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
07/28/2020 9:36 pm

Thank you. Pity C&S bailed, but there are a couple volunteers. As for the filler, my thought is to assemble a few videos on the Roman legions and add a few words about how you cannot really consider ancient weapons and armor in isolation because it’s all about how they fit a given military system.

We’ll see, though. Right now we have an artist who took the commission and the concept art looks about as good as concept art ever does, but it won’t be ready in time. Main question is if I have enough mental umph to do a filler banner for tomorrow. when I am running on a low tank, the creative stuff is the first to go, unfortunately.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 9:53 pm

I’m just grateful for people like you.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:17 pm

Compensation, perhaps?

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 9:16 pm

I am about to go full blown youtube nerd here but you won’t believe which youtuber is his brother. Of course if you are an avid Shadiversity watcher, you will know the answer.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
07/28/2020 9:29 pm

Avid? No, but I do watch some of his videos, from time to time. No clue who his kin are.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 7:08 pm

Almost everything bad that happened to us in all 3 games were just us shooting ourselves in the feet. Without all those mistakes, we would have dominated even more. So yeah, I see what you mean.

upamtn
Reply to  MasterChief
07/28/2020 7:09 pm

without scoring as we did, we’d have lost from all the toe bleeding …

Nasrani
Nasrani
07/28/2020 6:51 pm

Got off the train at New York City…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWsPwNlclg0

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Nasrani
07/28/2020 6:57 pm

Fitting.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 7:01 pm

well

I have some Toys in my Attic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jfuLErfMec

Uncle Salty

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:04 pm

Plenty of that going around on twitter.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 7:07 pm

we both edited … LOL

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  upamtn
07/28/2020 8:13 pm

Heard a song today and thought of you Ups. Rock n Roll yodeling. Sounds like something you’d appreciate

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  Team Player
07/28/2020 8:16 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Team Player
07/28/2020 9:36 pm

Before I look, Focus’ Hocus Pocus?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 9:38 pm

Bingo, Ups has undoubtedly heard it.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/29/2020 2:06 am

oh HAYL yeah … one of my alltime favorites!

upamtn
Reply to  Team Player
07/29/2020 2:10 am

thank ya, Brother … Hocus Pocus

yo dee oh
oh dee oh
doh dee oh
yo dee doh
doh dee doh dee doh doh doh!

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
07/29/2020 2:50 am

That sort of shit isn’t allowed anymore. Gotta stick to the formula. Over-standardization’s killing us about as fast as the Newspeak restrictions from RadProgs. Schools keep getting more regimented and standardized and it had been ging on for decades – but the results keep getting worse. Scary, but that’s what “efficiency” buys us. Kids do not conform to Six-Sigma concepts.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/29/2020 2:53 am

And I don’t have to provide you a list of songs that could not have originated now because of the themes and language containing in them, because if you don’t have one already it will get extensive fast with little effort. I know you well enough to say that much.

Sudden
Sudden
07/28/2020 6:48 pm

Argument can be made that the two AFC teams the chiefs beat were not particularly good and while the super bowl was against the legitimate best team in the NFC, it was also against the weakest of the three QBs we faced in the postseason

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Sudden
07/28/2020 6:51 pm

well the AFC teams to beat has not gotten harder this off-season

The Ravens and really Texans/Titans are it right?

Do you think Rivers in Indy is gonna be a great threat or just knocks either of the other two out of a playoff spot?

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:54 pm

We dodged the Patriots and ravens in last year’s playoff. Those teams were both higher seed than the ones we played so there’s an argument that we got lucky in that respect. And one can say that shows lack of dominance.

Of course the ability to come back and win is its own form of dominance, a sort of dominant spirit that can muster all energy with its back against the wall in order to look death in the eye and say “not today”

Last edited 13 days ago by Sudden
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Sudden
07/28/2020 6:56 pm

agree

I did like the article playing it in reverse though

The Chiefs certainly stabbed themselves in the feet in the Texans game

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:01 pm

What a game . And we were there. Hell ya , never forget it. I wasn’t worried a bit…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 7:04 pm

I was there too and you were worried plenty

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 7:07 pm

“I wasn’t worried a bit…”

Lie detector confirmed that’s a lie
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upamtn
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 7:08 pm

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BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:08 pm

Indeed. And 14 of their 1st-half points came off special teams gaffes, not a offensive whiz-bang display. That’s Mahomes, not Watson, even though he’s a pretty good QB.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 7:00 pm

Meh, more often than not football games are decided less on who the “better team” is as much as the matchup. The titans matched up favorably with the ravens and Patriots. We struggled in the super bowl because the niners ultimately were the worst match up for us because of their solid running game and pass rush.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:46 pm

Wit goes deep

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:59 pm

What happened with Zimmer? I was on a beer cycle.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 7:06 pm

Hit a Tiger in the face guard

Metheny lifted him cause he might have had worries over whether Zimmer could let it go

course then we give up 4 runs with the relief pitcher
Whatevs

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:20 pm

Yeah, I knew about the hit, I was just wondering if he was pulled or tossed. Now I know, thanks.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:35 pm

Zimmer is rolling

little jam here

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:38 pm

all good

Go Royals

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:40 pm

Whit made a highlight-reel play on that last pitch, IMO. Granted, with the current dearth of sports there’s more room on the reels, but still.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:43 pm

I wonder how they will determine the playoff teams if some games are never played

postponing games already and Phillies are feeling the brunt of the Miami outbreak

BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:23 pm

Came across a talking head today saying that Lamar’s undefendable. Now I’ll grant that the Ravens hung 24 and 28, respectively, over the last two meetings, but in both cases our defense wasn’t playing very well. Regardless, their superior D had more problems stopping Mahomes than we did Jackson.

“But-but-but the WEAPONS!!!” Yeah, and? If Mahomes couldn’t make his throws so well, how effective would he be? Same thing with the scheme argument, if he wasn’t able to make the throws he did then the scheme wouldn’t have been as effective. Mahomes’ talent makes both things better, not the other way around.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:26 pm

Is 28 points enough to defeat the Chiefs with Mahomes Healthy at QB?

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:29 pm

Nope, we will score over 30 every game this year.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 6:37 pm

That bold take…isn’t really that bold, barring injury.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:39 pm

50 burgers with BBQ sauce and Jalapeno Cheese

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 7:25 pm

How about this for bold… ? Only two teams will score over 28 points against us this year.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:31 pm

2018

43
54
29
38
37

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:36 pm

I’ll give you a definite maybe, but 24 sure isn’t.The Colts game I regard as an anomaly, not just because of injury but also because of the hole at LG during that game. Magnified Erving’s stuggles at LT, too. Bad ankle and no time to throw makes scoring difficult.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:38 pm

agree

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:28 pm

let em talk all they want, no ones stopping this train. All aboard, next stop dynasty…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 6:40 pm

well they are Giants Right? 🙂

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 6:51 pm

Ravens only had 13 points when the game was still in contention in week 3 last year. It was 31-13 and done. Chiefs moved to soft prevent defense and have up a couple big plays on awful desperation passes.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
07/28/2020 5:40 pm

It rubs the Lotion on its skin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5QaeQiO3d0

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
07/28/2020 5:44 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:36 pm

If I understand this correctly

the 150K or 350K is an advance if the player opts out on next years earnings…

What if the player does not make the team next year? Does he owe it back to the team?

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 5:35 pm

Let me know if anyone sees my boy Patrick. He got all pissed off , grabbed my wallet and said something about buying the a Royals when he stormed out the door…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 5:38 pm

for 2 billion or whatever I can be your cabana boy at the Tubes

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 5:34 pm

There is?

like the Patriots lack of players?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:48 pm
Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:55 pm

Rats abandoning a sinking ship

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Sudden
07/28/2020 6:57 pm

should make for an interesting Belichick season

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:01 pm

I bet they still manage to win a few games. He is a good coach, even without the extra edge (cheating) he always seems to try to find.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  MasterChief
07/28/2020 7:14 pm

I think the Bills just might win the East

depending on how they handle Covid

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/29/2020 2:14 am

sadly, the whole league has potential for disaster … though not the way you meant it, perhaps

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 7:18 pm

Everyone seems to be crowning Buffalo already. But really, do not sleep on the jets. Darnold is so forward thinking about his career that he deliberately contracted mono last season as a means to prepare himself for the possibility of having to play through covid

upamtn
Reply to  Sudden
07/29/2020 2:13 am

do not sleep on the jets

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ……………………………….

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
07/28/2020 8:52 pm

A lot depends on the offense they craft for Newton, their defenses are pretty consistently good.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/28/2020 9:56 pm

It’s going to be really interesting to see how Newton and Belichick operate together.

Newton is a totally different QB than Brady. It could be a shit show or it could be spectacular.

Last edited 13 days ago by MasterChief
rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:49 pm

I seen that, if you know you’re going to suck why would you even show up to work .. I would also wait till next year

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:49 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
07/28/2020 5:54 pm

Well Hell

I should turn on the radio or something

I wonder If Patrick can Pitch?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:50 pm

Washington Football TeamDL Caleb Brantley

hahhahhahahahahha

just call them the Replacement already

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 5:54 pm

Punch in center Texas in your gps and see how far away it is, my buddy has a lake house we could meet at.
Maybe September or October.It’s in the Daniel Boone national Forest pretty cool area

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 5:56 pm

I shall try to remember that

rip58lovealways
rip58lovealways
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:16 pm

Usually a lot of blow and hookers.😊

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58lovealways
07/28/2020 6:18 pm

sounds like Independence Ave in KC

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/28/2020 6:09 pm

What about the Washington Asterisks?

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