Thursday Night Open Thread

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Things-Happened Thursday…new Theme? Maybe. In case you missed it, the Athletic tweeted out a Jay Glazer answer to “Anthony S” (raises eyebrow suspiciously) stating he heard rumblings involved the Chiefs maybe trading Tyreek Hill at the combine. Apparently he didn’t see fit to mention it until Hill became a hot topic in the news. Piling on? Who knows.

Then Justin Houston signed with the Colts. 2 years $24Mil. Not bad. We wish him luck, except against the Chiefs.

Not much new on Youtube, so we’ll just post the latest Seth interview, in its entirety.

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BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 11:07 pm

3rd shift’s finally up.

Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 10:22 pm

I really like this youtube channel called AfterPrisonShow where a guy talks about his time in prison. A lot of his videos are good, but this one in particular was an exceptional story. Just this story would make a good movie.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 10:34 pm

Looks interesting, might take a look at it later, but ATM, that might get mixed up with the awful truths I know about the court-prison system. Texas in particular, where some of the un-air conditioned facilities can stay above 100F for days on end, and those with health issues just have to deal with it. Nothing’s done for them by the system, even when the high heat’s affecting their health. And if one of them dies, few if any care, because he’s not a human being, he’s “just a criminal”. I’ve been keeping my calm pretty well, but that might open a real can of worms.

Mind if I shoot you and email for the link at a later date?

Tony Sommer
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 10:35 pm

Sure, but it’s not that kind of story.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 10:41 pm

Didn’t say it was, I was trying to say it was likely to have things in it that might…fuck it, “trigger” me in some way. I strongly dislike people who throw the word trigger around like an excuse to force people how to behave. I have real, actual triggers from the PTSD, but I don’t expect others to automatically keep triggering things away from me. That’s my job, because only I really understand them.

But that mini-rant doesn’t apply to you at all. You might say that me using the word “trigger”…triggered me into the rant.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 10:45 pm

Ok I see what you mean now. He talks about being sent into isolation as punishment (although the bad aspect of that isn’t talked about), but I don’t think there’s much else about that kind of injustice.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 11:00 pm

More or less the content I expected and was interested in, I just have to manage my triggers. Ain’t his job to keep his stuff free of anything that might trip one, after all. Couple other things. First is that what you said about lockpicking being a useless skill keeps echoing in my mind, so I’ll share this: Due to an unrealistic entry setup, people here use their key to pull the door open. A pin-type lock isn’t designed for that, but human nature is human nature, so it’s gotten finicky. Well, since I go in and out a lot, of a newcessity I had to learn to get good at getting it open. The other day I realized that what I was basically doing was how to “pick” that lock with a valid key. Just sayin’ that I don’t believe that there’s such a thing as a completely useless ski8ll.

But on a less serious note WRT Science Saturday, has science managed to explain why sometimes the moon appears to be larger than others, aqnd yet by every objective measurement it’s always the same size in the sky? I’m not mocking science here, either. It’s a rather baffling conundrum, IMO, but it’s a rather interesting one, as well.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
03/21/2019 10:14 pm

apparently the Raiders have signed Jordan Devey.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
03/21/2019 10:22 pm

So it seems, but this is Arrowhead Guys, always there with the first and best scoops! We got that out hours ago. 😉
(I kid. The reason we are like that is because of people like you. Thank you.) (Yes, I did steal that last phrase from PBS, why do you ask?)

stjoechief
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
03/21/2019 10:51 pm

Sad. Tough guy; I would have loved to keep him as a Chief.

Tyrone
Reply to  stjoechief
03/21/2019 11:45 pm

Same but, JAG

BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 9:58 pm

Thought I’d mention this; I’m sure I have been ruffling some feathers recently, but I simply can’t get on board with fantasies. The people who believe that if they wandered into stores they’ve never seen while not expecting a slave staff to be there and would somehow notice something that would obviously scream “slavery!” are bad enough, because contrary to that belief, you miss 100% of the things you aren’t looking for. Nobody here could walk into a spa without looking for or even expecting signs of slavery wouldn’t see shit. It’s hindsight and wishful thinking. Plus probably a heavy condemnation of prostitution, but that’s just virtue-signalling, not problem solving. But worse than that are the lunatics squawking about Hill. I know it wouldn’t fly in a court of law, but to me saying that ‘Hill broke his son’s arm’ is a level of reckless stupidity (but I repeat myself. Fortunately, it deserves a double dose.) that boarders on the criminal so closely that I’d have to use an index card to determine the gap. Nobody on the internet knows that Hill hurt his son, they just look at his past and assume it. Because some people never forgive, and some of those people are here. If you are one of those holding his past over or against him, then you are one of the people who never forgave him. Actions speak louder than words, so QED. And while views like this may not be popular, I haven’t gotten involved in personal attacks and insults. I’ve kept my tone as dispassionate and reason-based as I can, but with some of the stupidity running around claiming to be fact, it hasn’t been easy. So beware of unconscious assumptions, like believing that Hill got abusively rough with his GF means that he’s inclined to abuse children, and pouncing at the first hint of anything that got reported that sounded bad and assumed it to be true. And why wouldn’t they? The story lined up with and validated their prejudices, so of course they did, because feelings of vindication are nice, man. Except… Read more »

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 10:06 pm

I didn’t click “read more>”… 🙂
That the situations are being conflated in any way seems…..

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 10:09 pm

Like a really bad idea? Especially considering all the unfounded assumptions being promoted by the unduly passionate.

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 10:08 pm

You’re good man. But I disagree with you. It’s not the that no one can walk into a place and completely miss something illegal going on. But if you walk into an Asian message parlor and they are offering happy endings for $49, sorry but that screams human trafficking.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
03/21/2019 10:14 pm

A) It’s not going to be a listed service and the places operated openly as day spas. If you didn’t ask, they wouldn’t offer. Might not if you did, either. Unless…
B) You have a truckload of experience when it comes to patronizing spa that offer “extras”. Do you have lots of experience with that, or are you making an assumption about something you have little or no experience with and haven’t really researched? There really isn’t a third option to that.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 10:26 pm

BTW, none of that means that I think that you aren’t a good man. I expect you are one, and will hold to that until it’s proven otherwise. In fact, that’s even a repetition of something I was saying in the ciomment you replied to. Before I pass judgement on someone, I need convincing facts to do so. Keep being who you are, just don’t get stuck on never changing who you are.

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 11:44 pm

I get that it isn’t a listed service. An average Joe could walk into that parlor and never know anything is amiss. The point is Kraft isn’t an average Joe here. My point is you can’t get that type of service and not suspect that something might not be right. Want some extra action? get it from a legal establishment or an escort. Don’t get it from an Asian message parlor that are notorious for housing human trafficking. Just common sense man.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
03/21/2019 10:27 pm

And maybe I should have appended the secondary comment to you directly, but that didn’t hit me until an ohnosecond too late.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Leaf
03/21/2019 10:32 pm

I am not trying to be an asshole here, but how much do you think it would cost to get a handjob at a brothel in Nevada? I would assume it is close to the same price, so it would not scream human trafficking to me.

Leaf
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/21/2019 11:27 pm

Sure, getting just a hand job is probably somewhere between $50-100. But that’s just a hand job. A simple message costs that much as well. So yeah, getting both for under $50 seems extremely sketchy to me.

Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 9:44 pm

Where’s 4thQtrMagic? I was hoping to ask him about drawing now that I’m actually functional.

Nasrani
Nasrani
03/21/2019 9:07 pm

The Netflix documentary “The Square” (“Al-Maydan”/”الميدان”) is really good, and I recommend watching it.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Nasrani
03/21/2019 9:33 pm

100% reviews on Rotten tomatoes

Ill locate the free online movie

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/21/2019 9:35 pm

If you’re at all curious about what happened in either of Egypt’s Arab Spring protests, that movie sort of shines a light on it without going into a broader cultural context, but it also shows a large part of why the protests in Egypt failed to (at the present) bring about any kind of radical change.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
03/21/2019 8:43 pm

I just watched Seth Keysor part three.

My high school gf killed her cat in the dryer. She called me on the phone and I couldn’t understand what she was saying. It was literally like Ron Burgandy in a glass case of emotion. So I drove to her house and she told me to double check to make sure it was dead. I go to the laundry room and look in the dryer just to verify that the cat she just dried for an hour was in fact no longer with us.

Her dad worked for Coca-Cola (white shirts), the cat was pitch black, and the dryer looked like a horror movie.

I have never been the best person for comfort in a situation involving death. Humor is my coping mechanism. I asked her how did she not know the cat was in there. She said she thought it was a pair of shoes. And I said when shoes are in the dryers they don’t go thump-thump meooooooooowwww.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/21/2019 9:03 pm

Just goes to show that these things can happen, and it doesn’t take malicious intent to make it happen, or even neglect. A moment’s inattention, an incorrect assumption, and her cat died. An accident, that’s all.

Incidentally, Tony declared that all dogs go to heaven. I’m inclined to agree, which probably is why I like cats. Since I doubt I’ll go to heaven, I’ll at least have a /chance/ of seeing my old friends again. 😉

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/21/2019 10:26 pm

Have an upvote, you’re my kinda guy

pompano
03/21/2019 8:04 pm

sex pools….oboveground?
or underground pools of sex?

pompano
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
03/21/2019 8:28 pm

I always preferred nipple twist’s tub…
1 wide, 2 deep.

pompano
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
03/21/2019 8:51 pm

indeed

workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:07 pm

Every March I’m reminded why I don’t like basketball. I try and watch some of the tournament and remember that basketball is boring as hell. The last 4 minutes of the NMSU-Auburn game took almost an hour in real time. It’s unwatchable trash.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:08 pm

I have a weird relationship with basketball. I follow the NBA, but I actually don’t watch it much until the playoffs. I think I’ve watched maybe one NBA game this season.

workingmansdead
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:14 pm

I don’t watch the NBA at all. I don’t remember the last time I watched even a minute of NBA basketball. I feel like I want to like college ball, but it just isn’t going to happen.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:19 pm

I only watch college when Mizzou is good, so I haven’t watched much the past couple years.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:09 pm

Agreed except I don’t bother trying to watch. I’d rather watch darts than basketball.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:22 pm

I hate the way the games end with everyone fouling each other and hoping for free throws to miss. It’s very anticlimactic and yet it’s the only 5 minutes of the game that really matter.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  QuackTastic
03/21/2019 7:41 pm

I have an idea to fix it. Every non shooting foul in the penalty is a 1 and 1. When you get to double bonus, it is a one and one and one.

I think it raises the stakes of the free throws on every attempt so you might not be turned off when they go into auto foul mode. It would give the trailing team a better chance at coming back, if the leading team keeps missing the first attempt.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/21/2019 8:09 pm

I have a better idea for fixing it, raise the hoop enough to make dunking difficult again, and make the players learn how to shoot the ball. Look at free throws and their percentages in the NBA. The free throw’s the easiest shot in the game, but it takes work to master, you don’t really learn it by just shooting buckets. Those guys are professionals, and should be hitting those at a rate over 90%. I haven’t looked it up, but I bet that there are few in the NBA who do that well as a matter of course.

So make them go back to shooting the ball rather than using size and height to drive in and get the jam. Slam dunks used to be exciting, now they’re boring, they’re so common.

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:22 pm

Y’all cray cray. The NBA is awesome. This college basketball though, ehhh, it’s like college football; if I watch too much I’m just reminded how much shittier it is than the pros.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
03/21/2019 7:25 pm

Add me to the list of cray-crays. Watching the NHL and even baseball’re more entertaining than the last NBA game I tried to watch. B-ball’s right down there with soccer, in terms of excitement.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 7:29 pm

My big problem with the NBA is that the games don’t matter. It’s hard to be invested when even the teams purposefully lose games in order to rest players. Even in the MLB, which has more games, the games matter more because of how hard it is to make the playoffs and how big of a difference it is between the wildcard and division.

But in the NBA if you’re the Warriors your seed doesn’t matter. Same as the Cavs with LeBron, it didn’t matter that they were the 4 seed last year, their path to the finals wasn’t much harder than if they were the 1 seed.

workingmansdead
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 8:17 pm

Yes, I think the scarcity of playoff berths adds a lot to the MLB regular season.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 8:23 pm

The NBA just has way too many. The bottom seeds rarely have a serious chance of winning a championship, so there’s no real reason to get excited by clinching a playoff spot in the last week. And seeds have so little impact that there’s no excitement for those teams that easily clinch a spot either.

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 8:43 pm

Yep. It was a big deal when the Royals finally made the playoffs after 30 years. It was a HUGE deal when the Cubs finally won the World Series after 100+ years.

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  wvchiefsfan
03/21/2019 8:40 pm

See I find college football to be more enjoyable than the pros at times. Part of it is that rivalries are taken more seriously. Plus a wide variety of offenses being played as well. Love me some Triple Option.

dave9600
dave9600
Reply to  workingmansdead
03/21/2019 7:28 pm

I seriously gave the NBA a chance this year but I just can’t stay interested. I end up doing something else or I completely forget to watch the game.

Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 6:31 pm

Because this cold shut me down most of the week, I haven’t written my Science Saturday post yet. I’m in the mood to do more controversial stuff, so I was thinking either evolution or global warming. Any other ideas?

dave9600
dave9600
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 6:34 pm

It saddens me that either of those topics should be controversial.

That being said I always love seeing the objections people come up with to dispute evolution.

pompano
Reply to  dave9600
03/21/2019 8:17 pm

irreducible complexity is not a thing to base an arguement on, man

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:06 pm

Evolution fascinates me. The diversity of life shows the power of evolution. One interesting note I learned in college that many people don’t get is that evolution has no goal. It’s just random mutations where some work out and some don’t through natural and/or sexual selection.

But, having studied earth science in college, global warming is another good topic.

I hope you do both at some point!

Tony Sommer
Reply to  MasterChief
03/21/2019 7:08 pm

I guess I’ll do evolution then, with now 2 votes. It’s a topic I’m a little bit more familiar with anyway.

legal_kush
legal_kush
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:11 pm

So is the virus that gave you the cold.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:34 pm

Gonna touch on the percentage of genes we have that are not of human origin? I forget how big the percentage is, but it’s not a negligible amount. Some of European descent even have some Neanderthal DNA that they have inherited from their ancestors.

Another driver of evolution is that many genes are multi-functional or adaptable, so the right trigger could flip one of those switches, and any surviving progeny would retain the state. It takes time, of course, but it’s a heck of a lot faster than random chance mutations. And those two things aren’t the only thing in play when it comes to adaptation/evolution.

I’m looking forward to reading your piece.

legal_kush
legal_kush
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 8:04 pm

Oh, human evolution. Short subject.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  legal_kush
03/21/2019 8:13 pm

Compared to some of the other forms of life that have existed, you’re quite correct. Many things have been around for much longer than humanity. Crocodilians and sharks, just to name a couple. Oh, and dragonflies, as well. On that scale, we’re utter newbies.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 8:34 pm

Termintes run the place, and ants

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 8:40 pm

So you’re saying that they are Terminte-ators? More seriously, I left insects out because it felt like cheating, and I wanted big examples. I made an exception with dragonflies because they’re pretty cool and it’s a little startling to think of them going back to the dinosaur ages.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 8:56 pm

Why do you hate coral so much?
very sad.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 9:05 pm

Where did I say I hated coral? I rejected insects because too easy, and you expect me to go with even easier? lol.

dave9600
dave9600
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:43 pm

Make sure to talk about chromosome 2.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  dave9600
03/21/2019 7:45 pm

I don’t know if I’ll get around to it. I might have to make it a series of posts since it’s such a big topic.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 7:54 pm

A big topic? All it does is talk about everything that has ever lived on Earth, what’s so big about that? 😉

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 8:32 pm

42

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 8:40 pm

Do you know where your towel is?

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 8:54 pm

The clean one? Sadly I do not.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 9:06 pm

The one covered in BBQ stains’d be a better choice anyway. Emergency nutrition, you know.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 9:16 pm

The corner with the antidepressants is no longer working.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
03/21/2019 9:25 pm

Pity, that.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 9:32 pm

The Bert’s has run out, but we got loads of this

Tony Sommer
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 9:18 pm

Just finished it, and yep it’ll have to be a repeat topic. I assume it’ll continue until training camp, so I’ll have plenty of opportunities.

dave9600
dave9600
Reply to  MasterChief
03/21/2019 7:21 pm

Another aspect that people have trouble with is that while mutations are random natural selection is not.

Mitko
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 8:29 pm

Write about junk dna or the red queen theory

Panzer85
Panzer85
03/21/2019 6:13 pm

Screw the Colts.

Spoiler
Andrew Luck seems like a nice guy, though.

dave9600
dave9600
03/21/2019 6:06 pm

How did ya’ll get Steely Dan to do your intro music?

Tony Sommer
Reply to  dave9600
03/21/2019 6:08 pm

You don’t want to know.

dave9600
dave9600
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
03/21/2019 7:25 pm

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go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
03/21/2019 10:27 pm

I like. Got a link for ’em?

BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 6:04 pm

With Glazer, he might have heard something and dismissed it at the time, but when the Hill story hit the papers it popped back into his head, and looked like a good way to generate traffic. He might not have even really thought about what he was doing, just like most people.

But none of that makes him right or adds substance what so far appears to just be a story and not real reporting.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
03/21/2019 7:52 pm

You have a point, as well, and I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just laid out one possibility that would have him not exactly making shit up, but talking out his ass because he had (or thought he had) a vague, random memory of it from something. That’s still in keeping with human nature and such, and sure, it’s not the only possibility.

That said, I know the value Hanlon’s Razor, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”. Maybe Glazer knowingly lied, I dunno. But that would be a malicious act, and stupidity does explain it. It may not be the correct explanation, but I jotted down one way it could have happened out of Glazer being stupid and sloppy. But that’s the way I’m looking at it, because assuming malice by Glazer without the evidence to prove itn’t just bad manners, it’s sloppy, lazy thinking as well.

Because once you’re in the habit of making such assumptions, it becomes an easy way to explain things that you don’t like without the effort of thought. Bad guy did bad thing can cover almost anything, but seldom does it prove to be the exact answer, on that scale. Much the same thing as if you’re discussing evolution with a Creationist. Every problem with his theory that you can pose to him can be countered with “god’s miracles”. But I’ve probably wandered too far into philosophy at this point, so I’ll stop here.

slackator
slackator
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/21/2019 7:23 pm

When youre in the business of breaking news and being first is the most important factor of your job you dont sit on a story as big as Hill being traded for weeks

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  slackator
03/21/2019 7:35 pm

Also true, but it doesn’t negate what I was saying.

Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 5:38 pm

“Anthony S” (raises eyebrow suspiciously)

You better not be accusing me.

pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/21/2019 6:00 pm
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