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Chiefs news for 17 December 2018

Former Chiefs QB Alex Smith released from hospital | USA Today

Former Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith suffered a bad leg injury while playing against the Texans back in the middle of November. Now, over a month later, he’s finally being released from the hospital. 

Keenan Allen reportedly calls Chiefs CBs ‘Doo-Doo’ | 247Sports

It doesn’t sound like Los Angeles Chargers wide receiver Keenan Allen thinks too highly of Kansas City Chiefs cornerbacks Orlando Scandrick and Kendall Fuller. According to an article Friday written by Sam Fortier of The Athletic, Allen not-so-affectionately referred to Scandrick and Fuller Thursday night as “Doo-Doo” and “Doo-Doo No. 2.”E

Todd Bowles, Chiefs should be obvious marriage | FanSided

Todd Bowles is about to be fired by the Jets. Andy Reid should be monitoring the situation closely from Kansas City. After spending six seasons with the Chiefs alongside Reid, defensive coordinator Bob Sutton is running out of leash.

Kansas City Chiefs: Comparing schedules of AFC contenders | KC Kingdom

As of now, the Kansas City Chiefs still are the number one seed in the AFC playoffs. Unfortunately, there are still two more games remaining for the Chiefs and it won’t be easy holding onto that top spot. With the season winding down, let’s take a look at the remaining schedules for all of the AFC contenders.

Upon Further Review: Five Quick Facts About the Chiefs’ Loss to the Chargers on Thursday | The Mothership

The Chiefs have scored a league-most 499 points this season, which are the most in a single season in franchise history with still two full games left to play. It’s also the sixth-most points through Week 15 in NFL history, trailing only the 2013 Denver Broncos (535), 2007 New England Patriots (523), 1961 Houston Oilers (513), 1983 Washington Redskins (510) and 2012 Patriots (506).

Rest of the West

Denver Broncos eliminated from playoff contention | SI

The Denver Broncos have been eliminated from the 2018 postseason after leaving their fate in the hands of other teams following their loss to the Browns.

Former Broncos QB Chad Kelly starts his comeback; due back in court on Monday | Denver Post

Chad Kelly is on the comeback trail — but he still has to show up to court. The former Broncos quarterback posted a video to Twitter Thursday afternoon, which shows him throwing to an uncovered receiver in an indoor practice facility. The caption: “18 comeback.”

Raiders owner doesn’t regret Khalil Mack, Amari Cooper trades | NFL.com

Does the success of Chicago and Dallas make owner Mark Davis regret the trades? “But we’re doing a good job of getting ourselves a high pick,” Davis joked at the Winter League Meeting this week in Dallas.

Game Notes: Oakland Raiders 16 Cincinnati Bengals 30 | Raiders.com

The Raiders fell to the Cincinnati Bengals by a score of 16-30, bringing Oakland’s record to 3-11 on the season.

NFL rumors: AT&T Park could be Raiders’ temporary home in 2019 season | NBC Sports

AT&T Park, home of the San Francisco Giants, is a possibility, CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reported Sunday, citing sources.

Los Angeles Chargers: Three things that make LA the AFC favorites | LA Sports Hub

Either way, the Chargers have proven that they are legitimate Super Bowl contenders and that they can beat any team in the league. Here are the three things that should make the Chargers the favorites to reach the Super Bowl in the AFC.

Chargers’ Melvin Gordon apologizes to his fantasy football owners | USA Today

Gordon is aware of the impact he had on his fantasy football owners and offered an apology to those whose playoff chances were diminished by his absence in Thursday’s game against the Chiefs.

Rest of the Rest

NFL Week 15 takeaways: Vikings inch closer to playoff lock | ESPN

The Vikings’ win put them closer to a playoff seat. Two NFC East teams were shut out. The Bears hung on to get to 10 wins, and the Ravens tallied their fourth victory in five Lamar Jackson starts. In the later slate, the Pats slid out of a first-round bye and the Seahawks were upset in San Francisco.

Bears win NFC North, exorcise Aaron Rodgers demons | CBS Sports

Worst to first is a common occurrence in the NFL, but it’s still hard not to be surprised when a questionable team completely flips the script in the following season and wins the division. It’s even surprising when everyone spent all offseason talking about the team, like we did with the Chicago Bears.

What we learned from Sunday’s Week 15 games | NFL.com

The Steelers snapped a five-game losing streak, including the postseason, against the Patriots with a hard-fought win and improved to 8-5-1 on the season.

Tom Brady becomes fourth QB to pass for 70,000 yards | NFL.com

TB12 joins elite company atop Mount Quarterback in passing for over 70,000 yards: Drew Brees(73,908 passing yards), Peyton Manning (71,940), Brett Favre (71,838).

Joe Flacco not expected to be back with Ravens in ’19 | NFL.com

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday on NFL GameDay Morning that the Ravens are expected to move on from Flacco this offseason.

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starry1
12/17/2018 1:48 pm

Keenan Allen ain’t wrong, but fuck him anyway.

El_Duque86
El_Duque86
12/17/2018 1:10 pm

never change MP22, never change

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike
12/17/2018 1:07 pm

So happy Fuller can come back with berry yes

Maslowskis Demon Barber of Skeet Street
Maslowskis Demon Barber of Skeet Street
12/17/2018 1:03 pm

Jameis Winston showing teammates what he does to Uber drivers.

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/17/2018 12:43 pm

Saw this posted on a non football board I check out every once and a while and thought it was funny:

In fairness, this is exactly how I learned how to send up a bat-signal for information about something I don’t know on the internet. Ask for help, and 10,000 people will look at one another and shrug. Confidently state a definitely-wrong answer, however, and you’ll get 10,000 corrections.

Pelletman
Pelletman
12/17/2018 12:15 pm

#Chiefs coach Andy Reid confirms to reporters that CB Kendall Fuller had surgery on his wrist/hand, calling it a short-term situation. He says there is a “good chance” Fuller doesn’t miss time.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 17, 2018

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  Pelletman
12/17/2018 12:21 pm

Interesting, this might have been something that was already broken and planned for the mini bye.

Similar to thoughts we had here last week. While don't know exact procedure/diagnosis, was assumed this all planned ahead of time due to "mini-bye". Good time management of injury here by med staff. Props to @KeFu11er as well, playing through tough injury.@ArrowheadPride https://t.co/wwjMCSnSi6

— Aaron Borgmann (@RehabAllStar) December 17, 2018

El_Duque86
El_Duque86
12/17/2018 11:20 am

y’all. next monday night’s game is Denver vs. Oakland.

this will finally answer the question:
If Witten is talking, but no one is around to hear him, does he still suck?

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  El_Duque86
12/17/2018 11:26 am

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ArrowFan
ArrowFan
12/17/2018 11:02 am

Now that a few days have passed Thursday’s loss will be irrelevant if we win the last two. The silver lining is that the team got to experience the sting of losing a few weeks before losing would mean you are done for the year, without it drastically altering things. The team should be motivated and not feeling totally invincible now. On a side note just imagine how much it would suck if your team were to go 13-3 and you still had to go on the road in the playoffs as a wild card. This could be the Chargers situation:) 🙂 🙂 I imagine it would suck just as equally as a team going 12-4 and still needing to play on the road in the playoffs as a wildcard:( 🙁 🙁

El_Duque86
El_Duque86
12/17/2018 11:00 am

i’m 95% certain that the ravens will beat the chargers. the baltimore D will be able to shut down Rivers and as long as Jackson doesn’t turn it over, I see the ravens running all over the chargers. edge rushers don’t help much when you are running right at them.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  El_Duque86
12/17/2018 11:32 am

I’m with you. I think it’s going to be a game for sure. Suggs had much more of an impact on mahomes than bosa did, and we hit rivers quite a bit. Curious to see how many times Suggs puts his hands on rivers.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  4everLurkin
12/17/2018 12:18 pm

And unlike us, Baltimore isn’t fielding a trio of slot corners.

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ
Reply to  El_Duque86
12/17/2018 11:34 am

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4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  ProfChesterTQ
12/17/2018 11:43 am

Whoever hurt you doesn’t deserve your misery and they weren’t that special. I have someone I’d like you to meet, his name is Patrick.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
Reply to  ProfChesterTQ
12/17/2018 12:24 pm

It’s not a coincidence the Patriots got called for 14 penalties and lost. How many penalties were called on the Chiefs on that game winning drive for the Chargers?

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
12/17/2018 1:01 pm

1, pi on fuller. chargers got flagged for holding on that drive as well.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  ProfChesterTQ
12/17/2018 6:54 pm

I wonder if refs have throwing contests…

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  ProfChesterTQ
12/17/2018 6:55 pm

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Pelletman
Pelletman
12/17/2018 10:40 am

I don’t like playing at any other time than noon on Sunday (playoffs aside). Thursday games are injury prone and sloppy and don’t like waiting past noon.

BigRed
BigRed
Reply to  Pelletman
12/17/2018 11:10 am

I absolutely hate Thursday night games. It sucks for all teams involved and really ups the chances for injury when players can’t get the normal rest and time to heal from Sunday.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  Pelletman
12/17/2018 12:51 pm

If I were Commish for one day.. would be the first thing I would eliminate.. TNF.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  KCRowdy
12/17/2018 1:18 pm

If I were Goodell for a day….

Full time officials
Referee college mandatory
Salary reduction (his salary is over 20% of each team’s respective salary cap) paid too much.
No more London or Mexico City games (play in your home stadium or not at all)
No more extorting places to build stadiums. The league/teams can build their own.

This is a start of what I’d do if I had Roger’s job for a day.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
12/17/2018 2:54 pm

This sounds like a fun offseason topic. All of what you said plus these.
If I were Goodell for a day…

The Pro Bowl determines which conference hosts the Super Bowl. The losing conference hosts the draft. The hosting team would naturally rotate each year.
The only Thursday game is Thanksgiving.
If owners want a stadium for their team, the city owns 49% of the team. If the city doesn’t want to build a new stadium, they sell their shares back to the ownership.
STOP TRYING TO PUT A TEAM IN LA!!

Okoye on Excellent
Okoye on Excellent
12/17/2018 10:02 am

What if the defense plays better with slightly different personnel? They sure did last year when Peters missed some time. Here is hoping the young guns can make some plays down the stretch. Trying to be optimistic on a Monday ain’t easy…. :-/

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
Reply to  Okoye on Excellent
12/17/2018 10:54 am

the organization blamed personnel last year

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/17/2018 10:56 am

Went out and got “better” guys after last season.

ChiefArrowhead
ChiefArrowhead
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 11:18 am

From everything I’ve heard it’s that the chiefs viewed the defense as a 2 year rebuild, but they realized they had a Superbowl capable offense and tried to scramble to get better. The very unfortunate part is that it didn’t really work and some things fell through.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/07/bashaud-breeland-to-visit-raiders-chiefs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2797151-earl-thomas-trade-rumors-cowboys-look-to-restart-discussions-with-seahawks

Whether or not getting rid of Sutton is the plan, I’m not sure. But I don’t think our FO thinks this defensive unit it’s good enough player wise. The fix is tough to do in one year.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  ChiefArrowhead
12/17/2018 11:24 am

“Fix” is one thing, “improve” (which I think was the goal) is an entirely different thing. They did not improve.

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 1:06 pm

they didnt just not improve, they cratered. we got elite seasons out of ford and jones, the best season out of houston since 2015,, didnt lose anyone major and sutton still managed to fuck it up royally.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/17/2018 1:10 pm

Yessir. Getting worse is not ideal.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code
Reply to  hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/17/2018 5:24 pm

And I’d argue that Bailey is having one of his best years (probably a side effect of Jones and Ford commanding so much attention) and that Nnadi has been very functional for a DL rookie. It all points to a massive fuckup by Veach and Sutton.

It’s on Veach for overpaying Hitchens, not getting any of the plethora of cheap safeties on the market this year, dumpster diving for CBs (which has kinda worked out depending on how you fell about Scandrick), and failing to find an instant impact rookie in a fully defensive draft.

It’s on Sutton for failing to scheme to his talent while playing inferior talent for unknown reasons. Ragland/Hitchens over DOD for half the season when it was fully apparent that Ragland was Oline slow and the key weakness in the ILB group was speed/aggressiveness/covering RBs. Lucas is still seeing the bench in favor of a disastrous season from Parker, a below average Murray, and now Sorensen who does nothing well.

Covering up all these deficiencies is a lot to ask of one offseason, but it has to start with Sutton getting replaced with an upgrade and Veach doing a much better job in the draft and FA.

ChiefArrowhead
ChiefArrowhead
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 1:19 pm

Label it however you want, I think some things out of their control like Berry/Ragland knee/ others hindered that. Next year was when they planned to have the improvement take shape. Obviously sooner is better, but I think they knew this was going to be a rough season.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  ChiefArrowhead
12/17/2018 1:35 pm

Sure, negatives happen where individuals are concerned. However, as HCC pointed out, they got record seasons out of two guys on the same unit and some upswing from another on the same unit. Plus, they never had Berry to begin with, so that isn’t a “loss” per se. This defense, if it was going to improve, would have improved this season due to the Jones and Ford seasons alone. This was more than rough. It is an abject disaster.

Edge
Edge
12/17/2018 9:58 am

The numbers look good for Bowles performances as a DC.

Was he really that good or did he just benefited from an already good defense in Arizona? How was his performance for the Eagles in 2012?

Depending on those answers i wouldn’t mind to take him as our DC, cause i feel that we can just progress with someone else than Sutton.

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  Edge
12/17/2018 10:04 am

Yeah … I get that he’s not Bob Sutton, but, I don’t get the Love for this Guy … I want some FIRE from my DC …

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
Reply to  KCChef
12/17/2018 10:50 am

kris richards is my favorite candidate. he was solid in seattle even with all the defensive transitions they went through and hes made an impact in dallas. he and bevell imo got scape-goated when the real drain was tom cable, but either way they missed the playoffs and pete cleaned house.

Leaf
Reply to  hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/17/2018 12:07 pm

Yeah but considering how the NFL uses the “good ol boy” system when hiring, I’m not sure he’s a realistic candidate. And that’s if we even look for a DC. Dispite all our fan outcry, it’s not a guarantee Andy moves on from Bob.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Leaf
12/17/2018 12:48 pm

Bob staying??

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m hofheinz
m hofheinz
12/17/2018 9:51 am

So, Derrick Johnson is still available and working out. He’d probably play cheap for a playoff team. We obviously need guys on Defense who understand the Xs and Os enough to help guys get into position. Is it worth a shot yet?

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  m hofheinz
12/17/2018 9:58 am

He can’t be any slower than Ragland or Hitchens lol

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  m hofheinz
12/17/2018 9:59 am

I want this soooooo bad but it will never happen.

Signing DJ for cheap and risking him play better than Big Bucks Hitchens would be a very bad look for Veach.

I wish we could at least hire him as an ILB coach tho.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 10:36 am

You’re right that it won’t happen because that would be Veach saying he effed up…even if it makes the team better.

HBKChiefs
HBKChiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 11:26 am

Yeah and that’s fucking sad. Ego over team smfh…

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  HBKChiefs
12/17/2018 11:29 am

This might be a bit far. Veach has only been GM for 1 draft and 1 off season. Can’t base anything off of one year. This next draft and off season will tell us a lot though about him as well as what he thinks the problems are with the team.

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
Reply to  m hofheinz
12/17/2018 10:51 am

make him an assistant and give him the mic in hitchens ear. apparently dj and berry are the only ones who can understand bob’s genius

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/17/2018 11:01 am

I don’t understand the negativity for DJ as a player. Reid said ‘ not going that way’, want him to be coach. He maybe slow, but not indecisive and slow to react as ragtag and kitchens. BTW I saw his interview the other night, he says he’s got some left in tank.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  RDD India
12/17/2018 11:03 am

DJ with a fucking tazer in hand backfield wIs what I want. I’m still pissed @ Thursday night BTW.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code
Reply to  m hofheinz
12/17/2018 5:28 pm

Ragland looked better next to him in 2017 than he’s looked next to Hitchens in 2018. I wouldn’t hate it is all I’m saying.

Pelletman
Pelletman
12/17/2018 9:41 am

Still dejected about the Chargers loss. If it was the Ravens, I wouldn’t feel nearly as bad.

Divisional rival: Check
Clinch the Division: Check
Clinch a first round bye: Check
Injured players: Check

All around shit.

Also, Keenan Allen is a bitch.

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/17/2018 9:36 am

My granddaughter keeps asking if Alex Smith will ever play for the Redskins again.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
Reply to  KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/17/2018 9:38 am

The Redskins like quarterbacks now who takes 7 years off, so tell her Alex will be back in 2025.

Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:17 am

I loved all of the “Berry won’t do anything to help the team” takes or the “He hasn’t played in forever so why should I be excited?” (cough Pete cough) takes only to see the defense actually look competent when Berry was out there and sucky when he wasn’t. It was such a huge difference.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:40 am

Why Berry wasn’t out there at the end is baffling. He was fine, hadn’t had any setbacks. So damn dumb

Leaf
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/17/2018 12:09 pm

It’s not baffling. Frustrating, but not baffling. They’ve been slow as hell with berry, so it’s not rocket science to know why they only gave him a limited number of snaps.

optional
optional
Reply to  Leaf
12/17/2018 12:32 pm

When do we know this week’s snap count? Any guesses on it being more than 32 this week – have to pace him, you know?

BigRed
BigRed
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 11:12 am

Totally different defense with Berry out there. And by different, I mean better.

topchief1
topchief1
12/17/2018 9:16 am

I was the 3rd seed in our fantasy playoffs for work, and I had one of the worst weeks ever. I started Keenan Allen, the Cowboys placekicker, Ezekiel Elliot, and Philip Lindsay among others. I think I ended up with an even 60 points for the week as I had no players on Sunday or Monday night. My coworker whom I faced actually managed to do just as bad as me, and found himself down around 4.5 points going into the Eagles/Rams game, with only Zach Ertz remaining. I figured I was screwed. Then he laid just as big of an egg as everyone else did for us this weekend. Championship game here I come! Almost makes up for practically every single member of my family throwing up yesterday. Have you ever given a 2 year old a shower at 11pm? Shockingly enough, they don’t like it very much.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  topchief1
12/17/2018 9:20 am

This lineup managed a measly 83 points (Thomas is going tonight yet): Mahomes, Michaeal Thomas, Mike Evans, Saquan Barkley, Damien Williams, Eric Ebron, James White, LAR D, Justin Tucker.

That point total is an embarrassment. Second highest point total in the league all season…owned in round one of the playoffs.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 9:29 am

Ben, Chubb, Barkley, Keenan, Tyreek, Smith Schuster, Hooper, Bills, Succup.

Projected 135. Scored 57.

What in the fuk

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/17/2018 9:32 am

Hahaha! Sorry to laugh, but so similar to me. I was projected at nearly 145. Kills me that I had an additional 20 points on the bench that could have legitimately started (Brieda and Denver D). At least I didn’t have to start Luck (9 points!).

ChiefOfTheWolfpack
ChiefOfTheWolfpack
Reply to  topchief1
12/17/2018 11:48 am

I won thanks to Hopkins going ape shit. This was despite having Melvin Gordon, James Conner, and Spencer Ware all out without any of their handcuffs (I tried getting them but of course I had the 1 seed locked down and was last on the WW). My opponent laid an egg to end all eggs too.

StramtoReid
StramtoReid
12/17/2018 9:14 am

I like Arrowhead Pride and Arrowhead addict. I understand Chiefs fans want a website that gives you freedom to speak your mind.

Now you have Arrowhead Guys, a blog for serious Chiefs fans to speak your mind. You might not like Pete, but if it wasn’t for him, their wouldn’t be an Arrowhead Guys. So thank You Pete for helping launch the Arrowhead Guys blog.

I just hope if Pete leaves AP and the AP start giving more freedom on threads, that the AG will continue to be a blog for serious Chiefs fans.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  StramtoReid
12/17/2018 9:25 am

Even if Pete leaves, the management who put him in charge and backed his decisions publically will still be there.

AG will survive on the ability to do things that a “professional” site can not do. Like have fun, give a shit about its members, and treat people with the respect they deserve.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 9:26 am

And post gifs.

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SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Nasrani
12/17/2018 9:28 am

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larch
sydenham
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 10:50 am

Burn After Reading, good flick. One day I’ll take the time to learn how to post gifs, I know instructions are posted on AG, so for now I’m visualising Snoopy’s dance from Peanuts.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  sydenham
12/17/2018 10:55 am

Google the gif you want. Right click and ‘copy image address.’ Open a reply box here, right click, paste. Hit post. Voila!

larch
sydenham
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 11:03 am

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SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  sydenham
12/17/2018 11:05 am

Atta kid!

larch
sydenham
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 11:08 am

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Leaf
Reply to  Nasrani
12/17/2018 12:15 pm

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Mink Farmer
Mink Farmer
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 9:36 am

“give a shit about its membership” is definitely not something I could accuse AP of recently.

Mink Farmer
Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 9:13 am

I’m still grumpy about Thursday’s game.

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 9:15 am

Same

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 9:16 am

That game has kinda ruined me. Still very down on future prospects for wins…

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  SCKSChief
12/17/2018 9:24 am

It felt like “same old Chiefs”. The thing that I have really been struggling with though is that I KNOW this isn’t the same old Chiefs because Mahomes. He is so good and I don’t want the terrible defense to ruin anything for him. I have been spending my days since them going back and forth between “same old Chiefs” and “no, this is different”.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:26 am

I keep trying to tell myself the same thing. I just can’t unsee what I saw on TNF. That was just gross. An inevitable loss, like so many playoff games before.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:37 am

Different QB, same Head Coach. Same DC.
None of the losses are on Mahomes. He does his job every game. I think it was Chris Clark who said Patrick’s Passer Rating in the losses is 114.5.

How in the actual hell Andrew Reid gets comfortable with 14 point leads is beyond my apprehension. He does this over and over and over.

I just don’t think Andy Reid is capable of coaching a Super Bowl Champion team. He doesn’t make good decisions in game, and it’s jist hard to overcome that against better coaches with really good QBs.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
12/17/2018 9:47 am

He is so “by the book” at the end of games, it is killing me (and the team). Just show the world what you’ve got, Andrew. That would be the best QB in the league.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
12/17/2018 5:38 pm

I don’t know that it was Andy (outside of that idiotic decision to not go for it on 4th and 3, but that’s normal NFL coaching fuckery) and more about the Oline getting consistently dominated. It appears like the numerous injuries have finally gotten to the Chiefs and affected playcalling. That’s why the gameplan looked like it was tailored for Alex Smith after the first drive of the game. Oline was losing that quickly and Reid judged (correctly imo) that even Mahomes couldn’t sustain drives depending on miracle after miracle.

Superstar Oline play isn’t that important, but there is a threshold that Olinemen have to perform at for an offense to function. For the first time in 2018, that group failed to perform above that threshold and Reid got gun shy about calling anything that wasn’t a quick pass/screen.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:47 am

Hard to say same ole Chiefs IMO. The same ole Chiefs woulda dropped a stinker to a bad team like the Raiders or Cards. We have 3 tight losses to teams who are Top 5 in the NFL.

Saints dropped a stinker to Dallas.
Rams dropped a stinker to Philly.
Chargers dropped a stinker to Denver.
Steelers dropped a stinker to Oakland.
Patriots dropped a stinker to Miami.

I fail to see why we would think we can’t beat any of those teams come the playoffs.

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 9:51 am

This is what I have been struggling with. Our losses have all been close and to good teams. However, in each of those we had a chance to win the game and didn’t. I have been so scarred from my fandom that anything close to reminding me of the past failures brings me back into the “here we go again” state of mind. Until I actually see the Chiefs win a playoff game at home I will continue to have these feelings.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 9:56 am

I think we all will.

Here’s to Mahomes continuing to lift curses!

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 10:01 am

We’ll all see after this coming Sunday night.. if we lose that one.. it’s the same ole Chiefs, and more than likely be the #5 seed.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 10:06 am

Given that it’s been 45 years since a team has had a perfect season, what kind of losses would make you feel good about the Chiefs going into the playoffs? A 14-point loss to a good team? A close loss to a bad team? A blowout loss to a bad team?

Really no matter how the loss happens it’s bad, but to lose by a combined 7 points to the best teams is about as “good” as losses can be.

Knightwolfbr
Reply to  Tony Sommer
12/17/2018 10:10 am

You make excellent, rational points.

My emotional attachment to the Chiefs makes my fear irrational. Obviously being undefeated would be the best. As for what kinds of losses would make me feel good…hard to say. I will let you know when my anger and sadness of this last one wears off lol

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 10:22 am

I would be a nervous wreck if we were undefeated going into the playoffs.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 10:25 am

Undefeated teams in the playoffs fare much better than .333, which is what the Chiefs are postseason up until now.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 11:16 am

Because Chiefs?

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  probablyamistake
12/17/2018 11:25 am

That’s more about you than these current chiefs

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/17/2018 11:25 am

Thank you

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ
Reply to  Knightwolfbr
12/17/2018 11:50 am

you mean “same old Refs”.
Not saying Refs ever cost the game outright; but they sure do muddy the waters enough with inexplicable calls and utter incompetence (backed by The Shield) that neither team can claim victory on their own merits alone.

El_Duque86
El_Duque86
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 9:58 am

it made me want to ignore football for the entire week, but i figured i’d rip off the bandaid so i listened to all of the national sports talk shows while travelling last friday. it was painful, but i was able to hear all the new hot takes and expel all my rage. by saturday i was back to feeling good about our chances this year since EB should be playing full time and as always, we still have Mahomes. now if andy can just make sure we always have the ball last and quits taking his foot off the gas, we’ll be golden.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
Reply to  El_Duque86
12/17/2018 10:26 am

The last possession should be a primary goal for Andy Reid. Hold onto the ball at the end of the game.

GermanChief
GermanChief
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 10:39 am

Same across the Atlantic

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 10:57 am

Finally felt well enough to rewatch the condensed version on game pass last night. And I feel better after the 2nd time through. We completely dominated that entire game, pretty clear (even with our defense) that we are still the best team in the league. Literally nothing has changed.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  4everLurkin
12/17/2018 11:12 am

One slight error in your analysis.. “completely dominated that entire game”, until the most important point.. the scoreboard. As far as best team in the League.. no one will know that until Feb 3rd ’19

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  KCRowdy
12/17/2018 11:21 am

That’s my whole point. Everyone sees W vs chiefs, thinks chargers are legit… they stole that game on a maybe touchdown, 1 busted coverage and 1 incredibly questionable call (the holding on Nelson was legit). I stand by both statements.

We dominated that game and the end result doesn’t change that.

You can wait till February since you’re only about results based thinking.

It’s pretty clear to me, but just for conversations sake, who’s better?

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  4everLurkin
12/17/2018 11:28 am

A total of 7 pts in 3 losses to 3 teams combined that have 31 wins so far this season.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  4everLurkin
12/17/2018 12:20 pm

4ever.. you’ll have to forgive me, but I’m a system engineer by profession and thus am results based. Of course there are cases of the better team from an overall perspective did not win. I’ve seen plenty of games where one team absolutely destroyed the opposing team statistically, however its the scoreboard that counts. As Vince Lombardi is credited as saying, “If winning isn’t everything, why do they keep score”.

So the Chargers stole the game? Looked to me on their last drive, they won it outright, as we couldn’t stop them on 4th and 8. Granted that was a great throw by Rivers. Or whether bad ref calls or missed opportunities by our defense. Bottom line, our defense didn’t stop them and the two-point conversion was beyond disgusting of how their WR got untouched wide open. So that’s my dilemma, while I truly believe we have the top offense in the League, we have without question the worst defense in regards to the playoff teams. We are not that well balanced.

IMHO, there is real danger that this defense can ruin what has otherwise been an exciting season and better than one could have hoped. Pat is a phenomenal talent and the future is bright. But am very apprehensive for the Seattle game. Wilson as we know makes plays with his legs outside the pocket, and they obviously just lost to a vastly inferior team . They will be playing for their playoff lives. We need to bring our A++ game as it’s in Seattle and a prime-time game.

And yes, for me, it’s whose left standing after Feb 3rd, 2019. As to old classic saying.. “There’s no points for second place”.

Hope this helps you understand my two cents…

Cheat Code
Cheat Code
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/17/2018 5:32 pm

That one definitely stings. I bounced back from the Ram and Patriot losses within minutes, but Thursday was vintage Chiefs and it’s got me triggered.

HockeyWinger
HockeyWinger
12/17/2018 9:02 am

“Allen not-so-affectionately referred to Scandrick and Fuller Thursday night as “Doo-Doo” and “Doo-Doo No. 2.”

Pretty sure they have been called worse by better.

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