Into The Afternight: Our 3rd Shift O/T
19 repliesIf you’re still up and want to talk Chiefs, or just hang with fellow citizens of the Kingdom, this is the place.
The treasures that come out of the ground are amazing, aren’t they?
Though on the balance, the most valuable of the treasures in these videos are mental; knowledge and memories. Hope y’all are OK out there.
With that, time’s yours.
a short hit ponder…he’s not being a real dick yet…that’s something
this might happen for me tonight!!
That would be cool. Pun unintentional, but intentionally included. I’ve never experienced one myself, so I can best liken Cantore’s love of thundersnows to an experience of mine, back one summer when I was in HS. To avoid a long story, the father of some friends & classmates of mine brought me along on a father-son fishing trip, up in Canada.
One night, the Aurora was seemingly within touching distance of our camp, and in the absolutely still almost-darkness, I could almost hear its music, an auditory equivalent of seeing something out of the corner of your eye that vanishes when you actually look. Except that this persisted. Since then, I have seen plenty of footage of auroras, and they’re all beautiful. But they’re not the same as being there, that’s for sure.
In the end, life’s wealth is the memories you make. I strive to make good ones, for myself and others and both kids got it via osmosis, because I wasn’t just preachy about it, I put it into action. I demonstrated to them that while making a memory might involve spending some money, money can’t buy you a memory. I came up with it, but they’re living it. That’s reason enough to share the story, as many people check this out after they wake up.
I do call myself a raconteur in my bio, after all.
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Are you pondering what I’m pondering?
god I hope not
You better, you better, you bet.
Right now, my borderline paranoid radar’s been triggered. Check the chat.
not job man 😊
saw it, very curious….
Oh hey,
Sorry, I just saw your response to me about unions. I was in my usual back/forth about (I promise I kept it civil this time) on the other thread. Thank you for sharing your experience. I get the gist of what you are saying. Unions can definitely prop up the lazy/uninspired among the work force. However, the decline in union influence had led to, IMO, the death of the working class pensions. That alone makes me long for the rebirth of unions in the private sector.
I will say we agree ( I think) on public unions. There is no real even flow between management and employee. It is all one symbiotic relationship with no one held accountable and group think
Agree? Eh, close enough. After the de-cert, a number of problem employees were sacked, but that was almost equaled by the firing of people who could be rough around the edges, but were highly competent, and all business, when treated with a little respect. In fact, I lost a couple of my go-to rework ladies to that. I knew both were coming, too, but the irony is that even with the union, they could have terminated the bad eggs. It was just too much work to do so.
But public-sector unions aside, in my view, unions are good, right up to Pournelle’s point of maturity. That’s when the members of a hierarchy become more dedicated to preserving the system than serving those the system was intended to serve.
I have said this before, and while I said it angrily, I did not mean it derisively. When I said I recognized arguments you had raised because I had used them myself, I wasn’t lying. I have learned things since then, and when I run into a fact that is inconvenient to a belief of mine, I take a closer look, and if the fact wins, it wins, my opinion must change. The point being, we agree on a whole lot more things than we disagree on, I can tell by where you’re coming from, it’s familiar territory. It’s just territory I’ve left, to wander in the wilderness, as it were.
Incidentally, my spellcheck did not like my use of “whole lot”. Is it an over-used cliche? Certainly, but cliches are such for a reason, and can serve to emphasize a point because it’s a cliche.
I am the editor here, not a mere tool. Not for nothing was I called the guy who made all the writers here look smarter, I’m good at that part of the job. Unfortunately, I don’t have much editing work to do, because no submissions. I’m about as good recruiter as a salesman.
Well, thank gawd yous have an unemeduacted plebs like myself to make look better . Naw wheres me chaws bucket
Naw, yer puttin’ too much into it that ’tain’t there, pahdnuh. That’s what one of them said about me, and most of the rest were quick to chime in with their agreement. I was being tongue in cheek there, but that doesn’t go beyond the facts. Citing that may be bragging, but it’s well-earned bragging.
Subtly adjusting phrasing in order to strengthen the delivery of a message you completely disagree with is not a common talent. Most editors tend to insert at least a bit of their POV. Robert A Heinlein noted the tendency to meddle WRT several editors, most notably Alice Dalgliesh.
Just googled her to confirm the spelling, and long story short, there appears to be a first-page narrative about how she was responsible for Heinlein’s success in juvenile fiction. The reality is that she meddled in every one of them, then threw him under the bus over Starship Troopers. Don’t think he didn’t take notice of that, and he found a willing publisher immediately.
I am the opposite of Alice. My voice and my views have no place in my work, which is to improve the post at hand in every way I can, while leaving as few fingerprints as I can manage. Worst case, I wave off, and run it unaltered, which has happened once. Go watch a few of these videos, for further reference. His Ross-like delivery aside, his view as a restoration artist and my view as an editor overlap very well. The painting isn’t his, and the post isn’t mine, but we both do our best to make the piece look as good as possible without adding our own POV to it. It’s a point of pride I appreciate.
Your football IQ is high, even when I disagree. How could I not treat your work with respect? My argument against it must come separately.
Oh….lol …believe me….You will have ZERO issues in identifying if I am angry or not. Then again, you already know that. That said, I do agree on unions not propping up the best and brightest and kowtowing to the weak. We DO agree there. I just wish it was more toward the private sector more so the public