Friday Night Open Thread: The Cardinals Release Deandre Hopkins

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pompano
05/26/2023 9:28 pm

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:49 pm

I have been listening to AZ radio today and the way they talk about Hopkins makes it sound like this was a big diva. He basically only practices when he wants and is half assed about it. Seems like a me first guy. I don’t think that 15 would put up with a guy who wasn’t all in when it comes to working and trying to get better.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:54 pm

he is a long time vet

it would be interesting to see what he do when he has a legit QB

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/27/2023 1:21 am

from a Revenge of the Birds post:

From a 1200-1400 yards a year receiver to…missing 8 games each season for a total of only 1300 yards over two seasons.

For a younger wide receiver, you can look at that as a setback. For a 31 year old Hopkins who’s had injury issues aplenty between his ankle, hamstring and a PED suspension …

… from a coaching/team standpoint, Hopkins was a disgruntled veteran player who wasn’t practicing and was not being a professional with publicly airing his desire to play for a new franchise almost WEEKLY …

he’s not the guy for KC … older, health issues, gonna want too much $$$, at least a bit of a diva (if fans are right, as per Saints, and the guy with RotB), and a suspension … nope, not the “high character” pro that BV and Reid prefer, and most of ’em are saying “good riddance”

Last edited 7 days ago by upamtn
upamtn
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/27/2023 1:07 am

I don’t think that 15 would put up with a guy who wasn’t all in when it comes to working and trying to get better

nor would Reid

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:46 pm

Hopkins

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:38 pm

Hopkins

pompano
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:40 pm
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 8:42 pm

probably

we will know something 🙂

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 8:43 pm

Chiefs could structure shit and see what sticks 🙂

pompano
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:45 pm

it’ll boil down to guaranteed $$, always almost does

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 8:52 pm

when you have all the money yo need

sometimes it comes down to WHO can get you a ring

the CHIEFS have been there 75 percent of the time over the last 4 years

pompano
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:58 pm

he won’t take a deal significantly below market value, NFLPA frowns upon that

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:00 pm

they hate Mahomes

pompano
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 9:02 pm

they do?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:36 pm

so I read

agents and nflpa say mahomes deal is hurting them

pompano
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 9:40 pm

that deal was a while back and everyone said it was crazy $$$ at the time. things change

pompano
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:43 pm

w/o Pat’s deal it’s doubtful the recent QB deals would have 100-200 mil guaranteed, so imma call bullshit

NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 10:06 pm

And he’s only in year ONE of that deal. Nine more to go

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:42 pm

I played this over and over Denise never took the hint

an awesome song

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 9:04 pm

US got shit on , but I think it’s a damn good album. Very underrated

upamtn
05/26/2023 8:03 pm

Bear helps itself to 60 cupcakes from Connecticut bakery, scares employees | AP News

https://apnews.com/article/bear-steals-cupcakes-bakery-connecticut-1349e356f3b6d54cfde831700fe3d826

A hungry black bear barged into the garage of a Connecticut bakery, scared several employees and helped itself to 60 cupcakes before ambling away.

Bakery owner Miriam Stephens wrote in an Instagram post that she heard employee Maureen Williams “screaming bloody murder” and yelling that there was a bear in the garage.

Williams told TV station WTNH that she shouted to scare the bear off but it retreated and came back three times.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 8:58 pm

comment image

pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 9:01 pm

the intro is long…

upamtn
05/26/2023 7:58 pm

catch ’em while you can

Saturn’s iconic rings are disappearing | CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/world/saturn-rings-disappearing-scn/index.html

Saturn’s iconic icy rings may not be around for future skygazers to glimpse at through their telescopes, according to new research.

A new analysis of data captured by NASA’s Cassini mission, which orbited the gas giant planet between 2004 and 2017, has revealed new insights into how long the rings have been around and when they may vanish from sight.

(hint: not for awhile)

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:12 pm
upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:36 pm

Pat Mahomes’ new theme song? 😉

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:05 pm

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:01 pm

Happy Friday AG!!! a holiday weekend

ENJOY

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:37 pm

what this^^^ guy said

upamtn
05/26/2023 6:47 pm

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert

zulu trader
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:48 pm

well fuck – easy to like a winner!

upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 6:50 pm

right?

zulu trader
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 7:27 pm

don’t forget we still have BBQ (McRib w/pickles) riding on whether we sign DHop or not!
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rip58
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 7:33 pm

Didn’t see Rogers on the list…😂

upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 7:38 pm

you got it

that said, I’m a take mine w/o pickles, tyvm (just something horribly wrong about pickles on BBQ)

zulu trader
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 7:52 pm

every BBQ place serves pickles with their stuff – I hate pickles, nevermind.

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zulu trader
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/26/2023 8:10 pm

EWWWWWWW! . . . the juices

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:20 pm

I love pickle juice

even better with Garlic 🙂

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:26 pm

Pickle juice has saved my bacon more than once when I was out for a bike ride.

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 8:28 pm

I just wished Pickles did not cost so much

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:28 pm

almost like a dessert

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:30 pm

my father in law used to pickle banana peppers

fricken awesome with almost everything

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 9:12 pm

now that sounds disgusting

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Tony Sommer
05/26/2023 9:07 pm

you’re crazy. Pickles are great

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:19 pm

I love pickles

they are a vegetable

Snafu
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 11:31 pm

da hell is wrong with you?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 7:22 pm

Yeah, he apparently only likes contending QBs

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upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 7:59 pm

go figure

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:49 pm

a ring would be nice to have

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:14 pm

so any money owed to him is paid by the cardinals

he could sign a new contract with anyone?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:16 pm

Yes. But if you read the article, it looks like we didn’t think he would get this far, and didn’t leave ourselves any wiggle room. Now, we could get Jones signed to an extension (damn good idea, anyway) and free up a chunk o’ moolah

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:18 pm

I like the way you think!!!

Snafu
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:19 pm

Hearing his agent (not a sourced comment, just regular positioning) will want to wait on Quinnen Williams.

Last edited 7 days ago by Snafu
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Snafu
05/26/2023 6:24 pm

so Chris Jones is waiting on a deal for a Jets DT?

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:25 pm

to see what the market is … ?

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:27 pm

how much monet can the Jets spend after Rodgers and all the WR’s already signed

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:33 pm

no clue … so lessee, they have Williams to re-sign, huh? oh yeah, then they gonna want Hopkins to go with their Shiny New QB … decisions, decision

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:45 pm

They have a little over 6 million in space. Remember, they can spread that signing bonus out over the life of the contract

Snafu
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:39 pm

Yes

upamtn
Reply to  Snafu
05/26/2023 6:51 pm

would be nice if Jones would take a little less than “max market money” like a certain 2x Super Winning QB is willing to do (if ya dig)

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:53 pm

I disagree

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:54 pm

he already said he was not seeking aaron Donald money

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:35 pm

wreck’d!

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 9:42 pm

Great Song / Band / Memories … ; )

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:22 pm

we could get Jones signed to an extension (damn good idea, anyway) and free up a chunk o’ moolah

but how long does THAT last? cap hits are gonna come with any big money contract sooner or later (usually sooner) AND we have C & RG to extend soon (and maybe LG?)

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:27 pm

So you suggest let everyone walk? Pursue no one? Just pay Patrick and surround him with schlubs?

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:32 pm

no, just have to be careful who you keep and for how much, etc

do you think Kelce’s a scrub player? Toney / Moore? Fortson? Thuney? Tranquill?

keep Jones, yes … but glad we didn’t keep Clark (ROI and all that)

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 7:14 pm

I trust Veach. If it works that’s because it doesn’t mess us up for the future

zulu trader
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 7:26 pm

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Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 7:31 pm

we have a ton of cap

2024 52 million
2025 124 million
2026 228 million

per spotrac

zulu trader
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:32 pm

Hey Steve, drop by the morning huddle tomorrow. We’re up at 5 am. get some coffee and join us!

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:16 pm

you mistake me for someone that rises early for other than work

zulu trader
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:23 pm

Morning Huddle is around all day, drop on by

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:24 pm

you see me when I can spend time here

life

zulu trader
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:32 pm

ok, fuck you then, don’t come by

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:36 pm

I do AG on my desktop

which is in my house

which is not an IPhone

zulu trader
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:43 pm

just kidding

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:58 pm

no problem

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 8:27 pm

Trust me, it’s still there at noon

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 8:33 pm

noon today I was repointing a satelite dish in Belton
3 pm I was pointing a dish in Lone Jack

without beer this fricken pirate cannot literally function mentally

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 7:40 pm

a ton of cap

that’s wonderful … for NEXT season (and beyond)

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 8:44 pm

Has there been any talks between the 2 parties? A deal like that takes weeks or even months to hammer out. I haven’t heard any news that Jones and KC were in talks

zulu trader
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:46 pm

Hey Saints, drop by the Morning Huddle tomorrow, we’re around all day

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:47 pm

If I am up that early

zulu trader
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:51 pm

I usually drop[ by around noon, still plenty active

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 8:54 pm

looks like you got a jump on the comment count 👀

NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:19 pm

That’s impressive

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 9:21 pm

it’s something all right

zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:42 pm

make up for last week

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 9:43 pm

*month

zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
05/26/2023 9:45 pm

anyway, Rip will like it

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 9:46 pm

true

zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 9:46 pm

and you got nothing left for Sunday

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Last edited 7 days ago by zulu trader
pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 9:50 pm

team player

NovaChiefs
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:49 pm

Not that I’m aware of. I thought they backed out, thinking he’d be traded. As for Jones, it doesn’t HAVE to get done, unless we want to free up the money. But I’ve heard nothing there, either

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 8:53 pm

I was talking about Jones. I haven’t heard any movement between the the two. Something like that would have to take place if there was any hope of signing Hopkins. That is why I don’t think they could get anything done unless these talks were done in total secret

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 8:57 pm

secret treaties are hard to do when you have no idea WHO is involved

NovaChiefs
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
05/26/2023 9:14 pm

My understanding is they have been talking, so I’m sure the basic framework has at least been discussed. I’m sure they aren’t starting from zero. We don’t know that DHop is in any hurry, either.

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 9:17 pm

both sides been waiting for other DT deals to finish, need a baseline

Last edited 7 days ago by pompano
Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:15 pm

better question

can he play Fullback 🙂

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:17 pm

The way we play it, probably

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
05/26/2023 6:19 pm

unless Hopkins plays for some truly “dirt cheap” money I can’t see bringing him in … even then, he’d be getting reps that could go to Toney, Moore, Ross, etc and that would interfere with THEIR development

and they are, after all, the future of the Chiefs WR corps

Steve_Chiefs
Steve_Chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
05/26/2023 6:22 pm

well he would probably be a rental type player like Juju was

so I doubt he would interfere with any developement

he could be that piece this year for winning LVIII

upamtn
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:25 pm

was hoping Juju was gonna be more than a “rental” … and woulda loved to keep “at the right price” … he seemed to be pretty integral over the season

I’m always partial to building a team thru the draft as much as possible, as opposed to spending on FA’s for a year (or two)

that said, it’s BV’s call (in consultation with Big Red and Clark, of course)

zulu trader
Reply to  Steve_Chiefs
05/26/2023 6:25 pm

upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
05/26/2023 6:29 pm

that’s it … maybe Hopkins goes to the Jets and can square off against Ramsey 2x/year … just like old times

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