Chiefs Lose A 36-35 Shootout Against Ravens

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A recap of the Chiefs Vs Ravens game

The defense might be a problem.

Scoring Summary

Q1Q2Q3Q4Final
KC1477035
BAL71071436

Game Summary

The game started with a bang as Lamar Jackson followed up a brutal overthrow that would have been a touchdown with a brutal pick-6 to the Honey Badger. The next drives the Ravens decided that running the ball might be better and went straight down the field, scoring a touchdown on a weird fumble that went right to another Raven on the goal line. The Chiefs responded with a spectacular touchdown throw by Mahomes after moving down the field with some runs of their own. The Ravens then ran right down the field again only to throw yet another interception to Mathieu.

The 1st quarter ended with a penalty and a bad snap ruining Mathieu’s interception. After exchanging punts for a bit the Lamar actually passes a couple times and the Ravens tie the game with a touchdown. Mahomes being Mahomes he couldn’t let that stand and led a quick touchdown drive down the field to put the Chiefs up 21-14, add a Ravens field goal and it was 21-17 at half.

The Chiefs opened the 2nd half with, shocker, a quick touchdown drive ending with a big play to Byron Pringle. The Ravens answered after the Chiefs gave up a big play on a 2nd and 24 then inexplicably left Marquise Brown wide open. But Mahomes, like the kid who does the entire group project by themselves, leads yet another touchdown drive with a yet another spectacular pass, with Kelce making some unbelievable moves of his own.

The Chiefs got the ball back with good field position, but Mahomes threw the first September interception of his career while being pressured on 3rd and long. The Ravens took advantage of the short field to score a touchdown, although they failed the 2 point conversion after an illegal man downfield penalty backed them up.

After a rare punt the Ravens led a long methodical drive down the field to score a touchdown, and despite failing the 2 point conversion they took a 36-35 lead with 3 minutes left in the game. Mahomes lead a drive that looked like it was about to win the game, but Clyde Edwards-Helaire had a devastating fumble that allowed the Ravens to run out the clock and win.

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pompano
09/19/2021 11:20 pm
Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
09/19/2021 11:14 pm

This game was lost more by coaching decisions than the players.

Our defense was gashed repeatedly, but we kept Sorenson and Neiman on the field instead of Thornhill and DOD.

We chose to play ultra conservative before the 2 minute warning then running the ball instead of keeping Baltimore on their heels. We could have kept attacking and scored a td.

The couple times the defense made a stop, our offense would promptly go in a shell. We got an INT. We went 4 plays for -1 yard and punted. We forced a punt. We had to punt it back. We forced a punt. We threw an INT.

Our last points scored were with 6:50 to go in the 3rd quarter. We were up by 11, we stopped them and forced a punt. We ran 2 plays for -2 yards then Pat threw his pick. If we attacked on that drive and scored, the Ravens would have had to abandon the run.

Yeah our defense sucked, but the coaches made them look worse.

Okoye on Excellent
Okoye on Excellent
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/19/2021 11:17 pm

Agree the coaching was messy tonight. I was surprised to see us get shutout in the 4th. Doesn’t happen often with this team…

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Okoye on Excellent
09/19/2021 11:18 pm

I think when it does, we always had a lead going into the 4th. This offense is borderline unstoppable when we are aggressive.

Okoye on Excellent
Okoye on Excellent
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/19/2021 11:27 pm

Yup

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/19/2021 11:22 pm

Thornhill I can agree with. But DOD hasn’t proven to be better than 56, especially against the run. We just really need Gay back, and then any another competent LB to replace Hitchens. I really wish Derrick Johnson had been able to play with Mahomes on the other side. Our DL still might be a problem, but switch Hitchens for prime DJ, and I bet the LB core suddenly improves to top half of the league.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  Slayer0810
09/19/2021 11:29 pm

Actually DOD has been our weapon against Lamar the past couple games. We used him as a spy quite effectively.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/20/2021 9:04 am

But isn’t he playing the Sorenson role in that case, more of a box safety? Because from what I remember of him playing LB, he was constantly being blown off the ball by larger offensive players.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/19/2021 11:52 pm

Agreed. Our running game reminded me of the Thomas Jones days. O-line sucked. Play calling sucked. All those runs were frustrating.

The offense operated fine with the short passing game. Should have stuck with that instead of forcing the run.

Armychiefj
Armychiefj
09/19/2021 10:54 pm

Creed Humphrey looked every bit of a rookie out there. He airballed Mahomes putting us way behind the sticks early. Then he missed an easy block that led to the Mahomes INT. He was supposed to the guy who was pro ready. He is not.

This O-line was supposed to let us be able to run the ball. We cannot. CEH is absolute garbage and a waste of a 1st round pick.

My only criticism of Mahomes is that he needs to audible out of every single first down run. Tell Andy to go fuck himself if he wants to run the ball on first down or when the game is on the line. Leave it in Mahomes hands and we win that game.

The defense was so trash that its not even really worth mentioning

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Tony Sommer
09/19/2021 11:05 pm

So the OL doesn’t need experience in run-blocking together? They’ll just get better in practice, which will be good enough? BAL won on a fluke, their offense came into the game pretty fine-tuned, and our D’s still coming together. Do I like having lost? Hell, no, but if all of my takeaways from the game were negative, could I accurately assess how things played out? Overall and individually, those who are obsessed with the negative side are convinced that they have the answers, but how much contrary stuff are they excluding?

Something to think about.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/19/2021 11:14 pm

The good is that I expect our offense to play better on several fronts as the year goes along. Mahomes will have better games. The OL will continue to come together over time. Hopefully Pringle/Hardman/Robinson will grow into the Watkins role.

But the bad is that our defense clearly has some major issues, and there’s plenty of question about whether the problem is one of talent, which would be impossible to fix before the offseason. Not playing Neimann and Sorenson would be a start, but you have to have someone else ready and healthy to step in.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Slayer0810
09/19/2021 11:18 pm

Did thornhill play?

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/19/2021 11:25 pm

I don’t recall seeing him during the broadcast, but I haven’t gone looking for snap count info so I’m not sure.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
09/19/2021 10:46 pm

I’m going back and forth about whether I even really wanted the win tonight after how we played. Because sometimes the “L” is the kick-in-the-seat-of-the-pants that is needed to force changes. And these wins and losses right now mean very little, as long as we take care of business enough to end up with HFA for the playoffs.

zulu trader
zulu trader
09/19/2021 10:43 pm

Do we have any defense?

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  zulu trader
09/19/2021 10:45 pm

no

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
09/19/2021 10:38 pm

Could we have looked any worse? Special teams did ok, but the rest, not so much. Mahomes made the worst throw of his career, CEH with the worst possible fumble, 2 hand on the fucking ball asshole, defense speaks for itself, other than the picks by badger, it was a shitshow from the opening drive. I have no idea how to fix it, but I think we can say for sure the CJ DE experiment is a complete failure. AS bad as that ravens team looked against faiders, for us to look that shitty does not bode well for the rest of the year

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  WaywerdSon
09/19/2021 10:42 pm

heres your dancing girls

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  WaywerdSon
09/19/2021 10:42 pm

Well, we could have been starting Tyler Palko at QB. I mean, given some of the past years of KC football, I think we all know it could always be worse.

BleedingRedAndGold
09/19/2021 10:37 pm

Just popping in to see who is getting blamed for the loss.

Jackson got his first win against Mahomes, but he needed a fluke to do it. That’s something for him to brag about? I hope he does.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/19/2021 10:44 pm

That was not a deciding factor imho, they drove it down there easily enough, flukey…yes but not determinative.(sic fuck it)

pompano
09/19/2021 10:36 pm
NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
09/19/2021 10:34 pm

That wasn’t what I would consider good.

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan
09/19/2021 10:33 pm

The real kick in the fucking nuts was this felt like a game that should have been a blowout against a team that was fucking beset with injuries.

kcfreak725
09/19/2021 10:33 pm

The defense was friggin’ awful. The offense was good, until it wasn’t. And now we get to hear everyone talk about the “rivalry” between the teams or how there’s another “blueprint.” Gotta say tho, if the defense can stop the run, the Ravens won’t be a problem in January. But they better fix the run defense because that’s embarrassing.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  kcfreak725
09/19/2021 10:38 pm

As bad as the defense was (and it was about as bad as any KC defense I can remember), if the offense scores enough to get up 2+ possessions, I think it’s a totally different game. When Lamar has to pass, he’s not a good QB. When he can run, and occasionally hit big pass plays off of play action, he’ll look like a world beater QB. We just couldn’t take away the Ravens advantage, which was always going to be their running game vs our run defense (even before we realized our run defense was non-existent rather than just not great).

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Tony Sommer
09/19/2021 11:07 pm

The offense had their fair share of fuck ups. The int. The missed snap. Losing 5 yards on a 1st down run.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Tony Sommer
09/19/2021 11:13 pm

Well I expect it because typically pat delivers it. And frankly thats how we win.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/19/2021 11:37 pm

Except we decided not to put it in Pat’s hands.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  Tony Sommer
09/19/2021 11:09 pm

Yeah, I’d say the magic number is somewhere around a 14-17 point lead. Less than two TDs, teams with decent defenses assume they’ll eventually get a stop. Either we have to get enough of a cushion that they are concerned about having time to come back, or Mahomes has to score on literally every drive so that it’s a death sentence for the other team to be behind.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  Tony Sommer
09/20/2021 5:04 am

Wait! I thought running the ball guaranteed that you will lose!?

pompano
09/19/2021 10:32 pm

Well that sucked. Mathieu with a pick6 + int and 2 BS illegal contact calls….also not being to stop the run….shit happens.
w/o the fumble I think we win, but what do I know?

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief
09/19/2021 10:28 pm

The D sucked but they did get two picks. The game was ours until…yes I’m going to say it…Pat threw that AWFUL interception. The Chiefs deserved to get beat. Sleepy defense and vanilla offense equals losses against hungry teams with talent. Reid better wake his team up and pronto.

kcfreak725
09/19/2021 10:27 pm

I know it’s early in the season, but holy hell was the defense absolutely atrocious. If they keep that up, it’ll be one and done in the playoffs. What a joke.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  kcfreak725
09/19/2021 10:34 pm

It was early in the season this past Monday when the Raiders absolutely dominated the Ravens in the trenches too. So why is it just KC that seems to need most of the regular season to even develop from terrible into a bad defense?

kcfreak725
Reply to  Slayer0810
09/19/2021 10:36 pm

I’ve always hated this. The fact that we have a whole offseason and preseason to get the defense to gel and work together as a unit, but then when it comes to the real deal, they forget what defense is.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  kcfreak725
09/19/2021 10:41 pm

I was actually hopeful during the preseason, because in a couple of the contests, it looked like our DL was getting pressure without blitzing. That was clearly an artifact of playing meaningless games against backups though, because I’m not sure we even came particularly close to getting to Jackson tonight.

upamtn
09/19/2021 10:27 pm

The defense might be a problem

don’t look now, but there are currently only two undefeated teams in the AFC: the Raiders and the Broncos …

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  upamtn
09/19/2021 10:32 pm

Yeah, and did anyone watch the Raiders defense absolutely feast on this same Ravens offense (plus their All-Pro LT) on Monday? Didn’t think the Raiders defense was much above average, but they looked like the ‘85 Bears compared to the trash I watched tonight.

pompano
Reply to  upamtn
09/19/2021 10:34 pm

fuck ’em all.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  upamtn
09/19/2021 11:11 pm

Donkeys are 3-0 right? I mean they play the Jets next week wilson might throw 8 ints.

Beating the giants and the jags is not something to brag about. Speaking of which, Trevor lawerence looks like garbage. Like really really bad. Urban meyer probably doesnt help.

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