Where Does The Chiefs Dynasty Rank In NFL History?

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1. Brady-Belichick Patriots (2001-2018)

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While Super Bowl victories is the most important criteria, I don’t believe in just counting Super Bowls and calling it a day. A dynasty is also defined by Super Bowl appearances, Conference Championship appearances, and overall how dominant the team was during their time.

The Patriots checked all of those boxes.

9 Super Bowl appearances, 7 wins, and 13 AFC Championship Game appearances, including an NFL record 8 in a row. These numbers blow every other dynasty out of the water, and before Patrick Mahomes seemed untouchable in an era where the NFL is specifically designed to make maintaining success as difficult as possible.

Ironically, like two other dynasties on this list, the Patriots and Chiefs faced off in the conference championship right as one dynasty ended and the other began. Unfortunately in this case it was the old dynasty that came out on top.

2. Montana-Young 49ers (1982-1998)

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Until the Patriots it was the 49ers who defined NFL dynasty. 5 Super Bowl appearances, winning them all, with 10 total NFC Championship Game appearances, the 49ers were unusual in how messy the transition from Montana to Young was. For several years they had two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks on the roster, and they both saw significant playing time in the same seasons.

Another area where they’re unique is that this dynasty saw multiple coaches. Bill Walsh is most synonymous with this run, but George Seifert also won 2 Super Bowls and saw consistent success with Steve Young.

3. The Steel Curtain Steelers (1972-1979)

4. The Mahomes-Reid Chiefs (2018-2023)

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These two dynasties are very, very close. Both went to 6 AFC Championship Games, both went to 4 Super Bowls, but the Steelers get the edge because they won all 4 while the Chiefs lost one of theirs. However, this 8 year run by the Steelers wasn’t as consistently dominant as the 6 year run from the Chiefs, since they lost in the divisional round twice.

If the Chiefs go to the AFC Championship game two more times in a row, they will be ahead of the Steelers even if they lose both games. In my mind 2 extra wins in the divisional round beats an extra win in the Super Bowl.

5. The Landry Cowboys (1966-1982)

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Those of us too young to remember this dynasty are surprised to discover that the Landry years were known for disappointment. They were arguably more consistently contending than the 49ers, going to 12 conference championships compared to San Francisco’s 10, and only missing the playoffs once while the 49ers missed twice. But they “only” came away with 2 Lombardi trophies.

Consider this. The Patriots hold the record for most consecutive playoff appearances with 11. The Manning Colts, Mahomes Chiefs, and Landry Cowboys are tied for 2nd with 9. The same Landry Cowboys are tied for 5th with 8 consecutive appearances. Those two streaks were separated by them missing the playoffs in 1974. Put another way, until 2010 when the Colts finally matched their longer streak, these Cowboys had both the longest and 2nd longest playoff streaks in NFL history.

This is why The Catch is such a famous moment in NFL history. The Cowboys dynasty ended and the 49ers dynasty began on the same play.

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Sudden
02/15/2024 4:16 pm

Considering only Brady and Belichick are the common thread between early pats and late pats and there was a decade separating the first 3 and last 3 rings, it’s worth considering it as 2 dynasties instead of a single one.

Tyrone
02/15/2024 2:52 pm

While I agree with including significant playoff runs as a factor in defining a dynasty, I think a dynasty has to start and end with a Super Bowl.

The 49ers don’t get credit for a couple of one and dones after their last SB.

Same with the cowboys, etc. Cowboys won 2 SBs over about 7 years. The rest of that time was failing in the playoffs.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
02/15/2024 7:42 pm

They have the Chiefs dating back to 2015, so we’re getting credit for several

Tyrone
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 8:13 pm

Yes. Chiefs shouldn’t start until 2019

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Tyrone
02/15/2024 9:17 pm

Not using the formula they do. We had 11 dynasty points between 2013 and 2020 (you’ll have to read the link from this mornings thread to see how that happens. https://web.archive.org/web/20230306181721/https:/www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/dynasty-rankings-defining-dynasty Thanks BigChief), and they do qualify. Winning seasons, W-L records, playoff appearances, even one-and-dones, matter. They had 11pts. 1966-71 had 13. Marty’s teams got 10.

Big Chief
02/15/2024 2:32 pm

I’ll copy this over here from the huddle. I dumped in the huddle because I didn’t see this article.

I always liked Schatz’s Football Outsiders and the DVOA and other analysis they did. One of my favorite articles was some work done by Bryan Knowles where they ranked football dynasty teams using a formula that looked at championships, playoff wins, and DVOA (of course). He put it up after the Chiefs won SB LIV and didn’t update until recently, after Schatz moved to FTN. Here’s the chart, the Chiefs are currently number 10 all time on the Dynasty list.
Top 10 NFL Dynasties

  1. 2001-2019 NE
  2. 1981-1998 SF
  3. 1960-1967 GB
  4. 1966-1985 DAL
  5. 1940-1943 CHI
  6. 1972-1979 PIT
  7. 1950-1958 CLE
  8. 1967-1977 OAK
  9. 1935-1944 GB
  10. 2015-2023 KC

Obviously I think it’s wrong to have us behind the Raiders, but this team should continue to move up the list. As a really old Chiefs fan I’m just amazed to see them on this list.
Here’s a link to the article, but I think it’s behind a paywall – https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/115896/dynasty-rankings-update-2024

Here’s a link to the article from 2019 laying out the rationale for their system, it’s not behind a paywall – https://web.archive.org/web/20230306181721/https:/www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/dynasty-rankings-defining-dynasty

Big Chief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 2:55 pm

I don’t have an issue with calling those teams dynasties. Don’t knock it until you read the methodology. I understand the concerns, but then those teams didn’t have refs protecting QBs from head shots, and the QBs were calling their own plays.

It’s one reason I’m not a big fan of labeling Brady the GOAT (or Patrick) because they didn’t have to call the offense, and were protected from some of the beatings that earlier QBs took. I think if Montana had played under the current rules, he would have surpassed what Brady did, but it’s all speculation. So it’s difficult to compare across eras, but I think this system is about as good as I’ve seen.

Regardless those are the dominant teams in NFL history. And this Chiefs team has earned a place up there.

Big Chief
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 2:58 pm

Another analytical site I enjoy is Pro Football Reference. They have a HOF monitor based on some formulas for every position. It’s impressive to see where Mahomes sits already (this is not behind a paywall) – https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

upamtn
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 3:12 pm

that’s some impressive company he’s in with … cool stuff, thank ya!

Big Chief
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 3:49 pm

Flip on over to the tab for TEs and you can see that Kelce is a lock as well.

upamtn
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 5:24 pm

and TonyG in his rightful place as #1 TE of All TIme

that’s what I’ve said for years 🙂

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 7:49 pm

…for now

DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 3:19 pm

Thats the thing that always impressed me with Manning (still hate that asshoke). Im pretty sure he ran those offenses.

Big Chief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 3:32 pm

Yeah, he’s the only QB I can think of who probably called the plays for the offense, though there is some uncertainty about just how much he did it. I think it’s possible that Mahomes ends up doing that, at least to some extent, when Reid finally steps down.

Sudden
Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 4:19 pm

If you’re going to invoice pre-merger teams, the AFL needs to be included as well and the chiefs of the 60s then have a strong case to slot in at 4 behind the 60-67 packers.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Sudden
02/15/2024 7:54 pm

On the website they included the 1966-71 Chiefs

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 7:47 pm

Add to that, basic servitude of the players, and I agree. You can call them dynasties and compare them to contemporaries, but bigger than # of teams is the advent of a salary cap

river
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Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 8:37 pm

Agree

Tyrone
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 8:16 pm

This one is ridiculous. You can’t have overlapping dynasties.

ArrowFan
02/15/2024 2:13 pm

So a threepeat next year puts us at the top right?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  ArrowFan
02/15/2024 2:19 pm

I say yes, simply because no one else ever has

hoosierchief
02/15/2024 12:18 pm

I wonder if we should consider pre-free agency and after, as well as the salary cap and such.

DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  hoosierchief
02/15/2024 12:31 pm

Post salary cap its just the pats and us. I guess tony is including the niners until the late 90s but

hoosierchief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 12:42 pm

I remember toward the end they manipulated the cap a bit, pushing a lot down the road, but had to pay the price a couple years later.

hoosierchief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 12:42 pm

The Steelers had it made because it was before free agency – so no one could easily leave the team.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  hoosierchief
02/15/2024 2:21 pm

Yes to this, too.
it is SO much harder to sustain success with the constant turnover that happens now. Pre-cap, if you could get good, you were set for years. If you couldn’t, you were a mess for years.
Now, Last to First is almost a yearly thing.
Gotta split them up

DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 11:39 am

I think you have to include the early 90s cowboys. Yeah the longevity isnt there but 3 in 4 years with the one year they missed out losing to steve young’s super bowl team, is dominating.

I do think the division wins streak is one of the more impressive stats. To dominate your division every year is difficult. The other teams are building their teams to beat you.

Manning was not good in playoffs (when he was playing somebody besides us). Besides his rookie year and the year he got hurt his teams (including colts and donkeys) won their division every year.

Nasrani
Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 11:52 am

What about the early-90s Bills? They didn’t win the Super Bowl but they are the only team to have gone to four consecutively.

Big Chief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
02/15/2024 2:49 pm

Jerry Jones pretty much self-imploded that team. That should never be forgotten.

upamtn
02/15/2024 11:24 am

100% on all this, Tony

the Chiefs are in select company for sure

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