Wednesday Night O/T: Miami Gets Tyreek Hill, Chiefs Get Draft Picks

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3rdnlong
03/23/2022 10:43 pm

So I just re-posted a poem about Tyreek. A tribute. Kind of bummed but glad he got to play for us for as long as he did. Won’t ever forget Tyreek, “Do we have time for Wasp,” the 13-second Buffalo ender, the peace signs after beating DBs, and too many other memories to mention.

https://arrowheadguys.com/chiefs-song-parody-reprise-t-hill-rocket-sung-to-queen-we-will-rock-you/

upamtn
03/23/2022 10:30 pm

ok, so … if $$$ talks, let’s take a look at the Highest Paid Players by position and see what kind of football team of THE BEST OF THE BEST we can build for gonzangkc11 & pam (when only THE BEST will do, but you gotta pay for it!)

QB – Rodgers $50M (ok, you can keep Mahomes at the same price)
RB – McCafferey $16M (running total 56M)
WR – Hill $30M & Adams $28.5M (114.5M)
TE – Kittle $15M (131M)
OT – Williams & Bakhatiari $23M each (160.5M)
OG – Scherff $16.5 & Teller $14M (180M)
C – – Ragnow $13.5M (193M)

DT – Donald 22 & Buckner 16M (231M)
DE – Garrett 25M & Crosby 23.5M (279.5)
LB – Watt 28M Bosa 27M Mack 23.5M (358M)
CB – Ramsey 21M & Humphrey OR Lattimore $19.5 (398.5M)
S – – Adams 17.5M & Smith 16M (until Honey Badger Don’t Care 432M)

then add K & P & Long Snapper and a $5M FB

approximately $450M

brought to you by WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY THE FUCK OVER THE CAP (dot) COM

🙂 🙂 🙂

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  upamtn
03/24/2022 2:29 pm

Your three LBs are actually edge rushers. So you kinda built a 4-3 with 5 DEs and no LBs.

3rdnlong
03/23/2022 10:28 pm

Over the shock. Thinking now we should have cut or traded Clark and paid Tyreek instead. Would much rather have Tyreek than Clark.

upamtn
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/23/2022 10:36 pm

would rather have the Hill deal AND made Clark a June 1 cut and save that much more in Cap Space Hell (and would have allowed him to seek out a trade with the understanding that he WOULD be cut June 1st for maximum cap savings, so any trade would have to factor that in)

3rdnlong
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 10:45 pm

I guess. It’s the end of an era, no doubt. Wondering what defensive changes we’re going to face next year because Tyreek will be gone.

Last edited 2 months ago by 3rdnlong
upamtn
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/23/2022 10:49 pm

that’s the beauty of it all … the uncertainty of what the other team will do, and what our own team will do … that’s why they play the games

and yet, it’s still The Mahomes Era, so there’s that (and Reid Era and Veach Era)

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/23/2022 11:07 pm

I don’t want to pay any WR $30 million per year.

3rdnlong
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/23/2022 11:13 pm

Yeah. That’s what happens when you pay Pat what we did. We start going the way of Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. We will have to play with more young players. Which isn’t bad when you Belichick the value out of them and trade them when the value is high. Hope we draft well. This year the draft seems to be stacked with exceptional receivers so it’s nice to need WRs this year AND have a lot of picks to get them with.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/23/2022 11:36 pm

I overrationalize things a lot. But tying up 15% of the teams salary cap space to somebody that might touch the ball 6 times per game is extremely hard to swallow.

Give 7.5% of the cap to two different players and I think your offense would be just as good if not better.

Imagine Kelce, JuJu, Allen Robinson, and Robert Woods could all be on our team if we traded Tyreek a week ago.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/23/2022 11:26 pm

There was no way, none, that they were giving him $30M/yr. Miami did, that’s fine. I don’t think both their QBs together make $30M. It just wasn’t going to happen

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  3rdnlong
03/24/2022 2:50 pm

It looks like we’re only paying Clark about $1.2 million more than we would have paid in dead money to cut or trade him.

So, basically we’re getting Clark for $1.2 million this season.

Even if he is JAG now, it’s kinda tough to find even JAGs for that cheap.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
03/23/2022 9:39 pm

Just got home from work. I hope everyone is past anger in the grieving process.

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
03/23/2022 9:25 pm

Or perhaps we can bundle those 1sts and throw in a 3rd to move up high enough in the 1st to grab that stud receiver from Bama that runs faster than reek

upamtn
03/23/2022 9:23 pm

in other news …

FUCK PUTIN With 17 Pitchforks All At One Time

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
03/23/2022 9:03 pm

No excuses to not fix the defense

EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:48 pm

I expect to see a move from the Chiefs soon – We have the draft capital to use as trade bait whether in the draft or for a player. Metcalf would be a wet dream. I expect some low key signings to add some depth – surely a receiver.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:59 pm

Guessing it will be MVS and either Ronald Jones or bring back McKinnon.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:39 pm

NFL 1ST ROUND PLAYERS

1. Aidan Hutchinson, EDGE, Michigan  (EDGE1)
2. Kayvon Thibodeaux, EDGE, Oregon  (EDGE2)
3. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame  (S1)
4. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State  (OT1)
5. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama  (OT2)
6. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati  (CB1)
7. Travon Walker, EDGE, Georgia  (EDGE3)
8. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State  (WR1)
9. Drake London, WR, USC  (WR2)
10. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State  (OT3)

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:40 pm

11. Derek Stingley, CB, LSU  (CB2)
12. Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah  (LB1)
13. Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia  (LB2)
14. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington  (CB3)
15. David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan  (EDGE4)
16. Kenyon Green, OG, Texas A&M  (OG1)
17. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama  (WR3)
18. Jordan Davis, DL, Georgia  (DL1)
19. Andrew Booth, CB, Clemson  (CB4)
20. Tyler Linderbaum, OC, Iowa  (OC1)
21. Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State  (EDGE5)
22. Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota  (EDGE6)
23. Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan  (OT4)
24. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas  (WR4)
25. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan  (S2)

Last edited 2 months ago by gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:43 pm

26. Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss  (QB1)
27. Sam Howell, QB, UNC  (QB2)
28. Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn  (CB5)
29. Devonte Wyatt, DL, Georgia  (DL2)
30. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida  (CB6)
31. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota  (OT5)
32. Logan Hall, DL, Houston  (DL3)

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 9:13 pm

Presuming this is a value ranking of top players, rather than who will draft whom, sitting at 29 and 30 does raise a conundrum, as Spags’ system doesn’t need an elite CB out in coverage. A highly-ranked DL would be a welcome asset, but perhaps 30 is better packaged with a later pick, to move up to 23 or 24.

Of course, like all pre-draft stuff, this is all sheer speculation, but for the above, I treated it as real in order to play along.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/23/2022 9:45 pm

I have a little crush on DE Boye Mafe. Hoping he slides a little to us.

Then take whatever receiver slides (Olave preferably).

3rdnlong
Reply to  Severely Concussed
03/23/2022 10:30 pm

Boye Mafe and Devonte Wyatt and Christian Watson – I like all these guys.

EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:30 pm

IF Chiefs invest in a RT and a decent running back, we can run our way to at least ten wins.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:32 pm

Did Andy retire? LOL

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:33 pm

someone dreamed him dead…..

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:36 pm

Distracted with a cheeseburger

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 9:16 pm

didn’t get his MDA of Chocolate Cake

Last edited 2 months ago by upamtn
upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:32 pm

this^^^

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:35 pm

CEH says hello 👋 ☺

EAFOX
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:42 pm

We need to keep CEH, draft Robert Allondre, sign Alan Eagle, and add Paul Regario. Wait – we still would have CRAP.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  EAFOX
03/24/2022 2:54 pm

Carl? Carl Peterson, is that you?

EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:29 pm

The best move that the Chiefs have made is letting DRob go to the Raiders – HA HA HA HA HA HA

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 9:46 pm

Kinda wish this Tyreek stuff happened a few days ago so we could of brought back Pringle.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:20 pm

Well Miami

you just fed the monster

money and picks

WE GOT THIS!!!!!

upamtn
03/23/2022 8:15 pm

wondering, we need RT … could Trey Smith bump outside if we found a once in a lifetime Guard? there’s this kid named DeCaaaaaaaaaaaassssstttttrooooooooo …

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 8:18 pm

I think Niang is a pipe dream at this point.

EAFOX
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:22 pm

Yeah – not placing money on him becoming the man.

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:23 pm

I’ll smoke to that …

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:33 pm

Look at the bright side, he’ll never drop a pass.

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/23/2022 8:36 pm

Like a certain receiver we all know

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 9:11 pm

you be nice: Robinson is already gone 😉

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:32 pm

So, is the rule that OLs who don’t dominate in their rookie season or incur an injury in that season are busts?

I know that’s not what you said, but that’s what your words about Niang mean. Fisher took more than one season to develop, and he’s far from alone. Now, I admit that he may not work out, but considering his rocky entry into the NFL and small statistical sample, it’s too early to say anything for certain.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
03/23/2022 8:35 pm

He was injured in college, he was off many teams boards entirely due to the nature of that injury, he sat out a year because of the college injury, he was injured again twice for extended time last year. I’m not seeing him as having the best ability; availability.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 9:27 pm

I agree with you about availability, but he only sat out in part because of his injury. Covid was a real concern, too.

Absent Covid, what would have normally happened was he’d have showed up at the team facilities for rehab training with a top-flight staff, and likely been on IR, formally or not. When, or even if he’d play that season would be an open question, but he’d have access to much more than he did. I’m certain that would have been his preference, because how better to rehab his hip? So Covid played a significant part, but sitting out likely hampered his rehab, since he was cut off from those facilities, and living on a limited advance on his contract.

Finally, lineman get hurt, which is what make players like Schwartz so remarkable. Injuries can happen at any time, there is no schedule. Between the small sample size, there’s nothing to base anything on. Sure, you can go with a gut feeling, but the only time I do that is when I’ve eaten something that was off. To each…

alsi
alsi
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 10:06 pm

I can’t claim to be knowledgeable about Niang and his real ability as a RT, but my leaky memory is that when we drafted him the talk around the Chief forums was that he was not a proven tackle, had a lot of the measurables as a physical “”specimen” but there was not anything concrete that said he was more than a “project.” So , he doesn’t play or play much early in his career then gets hurt and we cut Schwartz and the forums are suddenly filled with what seemed to me to be assumptions that Niang was a proven commodity at RT and only needs to stay or get healthy to be the guy at RT.

I may be wrong with my recollection, but that’s how it seemed to go as far as I recall. If I’m close to correct, then where is this body of evidence that proves he’s really a good RT? I hope he is, but what do we really know from what he’s done so far? Is he really a good RT from actual and convincing play? Maybe he is and I just haven’t paid attention (quite possible). If he isn’t really proven, I do think we should be sure we have what we need at that spot. His issues with injuries would seem to be a red flag as far as being comfortable relying on him. I do not want to go into this season with any iffy OL starters. IMO, we need to have the best OL in the NFL because we have the best QB in the NFL.

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 8:18 pm
SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:17 pm

In all honesty, I’d ride with Wylie again. They need to figure out LT for a few years before dumping too much into RT.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:22 pm

Eric fisher played will @ RT
Moons ago

BUT CHIEFS ARE PLAYING
MONEYBALL

upamtn
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:23 pm

the A’s made that a dynasty …

EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:14 pm

WOW – Still trying to get used to the news.

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:15 pm

hey Fox … it’s all good all the time, hope all’s well

EAFOX
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:19 pm

Just got home from a sports banquet – we had no choice but gonna miss Tyreek.

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
03/23/2022 8:21 pm

very cool, hope ya had fun

he WAS entertaining, but that’s ridiculous $$$ and the TEAM is better off (I think) with the extra draft picks + $18.M cap space … good luck (‘Reek) and thanks for all the fish!

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:08 pm

“oh no! we suck again”

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 8:16 pm

The offense will be different. Different might end up being “better” in a sense. In reality, the defense is what needed fixing this offseason. I fully expect them to compete for the West crown and be, at least, a wild card team.

upamtn
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:17 pm

this^^^

hoosierchief
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:19 pm

I think a more even dispersion of passes to the WR corp may make defending them more unpredictable.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  hoosierchief
03/23/2022 8:29 pm

I want the Oilers run and shoot in 2022

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:33 pm

Warren Moon

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 8:16 pm

and 1st for AFC West

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 8:20 pm

For now…
We need a dominant Running game to let these new wr…get open & learn timing with 15

upamtn
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:25 pm

that’s what I’m saying!

get this DeCastro kid at RG and Trey Smith to the outside at RT … wooooot suey hell yeah 😉

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:25 pm

a Creed Humphrey Clone!!!

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:26 pm

ok, Willie Roaf 🙂

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:27 pm

wait: Will Shields

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:29 pm

Christian Okoye?

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:32 pm

I like how you think …

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:06 pm

The Kansas City Chiefs traded six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins for five draft picks: a 2022 first-round pick (No. 29), second-round pick (No. 50) and fourth-round pick, plus fourth- and sixth-round picks in the 2023 draft on Wednesday.
The trade is pending a physical, the Dolphins said.

The Dolphins also are giving Hill a four-year, $120 million extension, including $72.2 million guaranteed and also including $52.535 million at signing, agent Drew Rosenhaus told ESPN.
The deal makes Hill the highest-paid wide receiver in NFL history. The $72.2 million total becomes fully guaranteed at the start of the 2023 league year. The three-year total of the deal is $72.5 million.
For Hill, who was already under contract for the 2022 season, the overall total value of the deal — including the $120 million in new money — is $141.685 million. It also includes $250,000 in Pro Bowl incentives each season.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:08 pm

too think

If the Chiefs had decided to cut bait on him with the allegations…..

Where would he be now?

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:09 pm

No SB
Where we would be

WASP

Only 1 wr puts fear in cb & safety
To run that route
And come back to under thrown ball
To make a play

Last edited 2 months ago by gonzangkc11
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:12 pm

pretty harsh

since Mahomes made us World Champions

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:16 pm

We’ll soon find out …

If Patrick can win multiple SB with JAG @ wr & rb…like Brady did for years @ pats

My guess is NO WAY…Patrick wins 5 more sb with chiefs without a dominant wr. This new nfl is a WR league…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:18 pm

I have to admit

Patrick has not made any of his WR’s better…

unless they all sucked to begin with?

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:19 pm

Hardman says hello. 😆

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/24/2022 3:54 pm

Albert Wilson.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:13 pm

A flick of the wrist

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:14 pm

my bad

I thought you were calling me an anglo 🙁

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:09 pm

LOL … right?

sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh, $50M up front … must be nice

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:57 pm

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:00 pm

herewego

will we ever face tyreek hill as a dolphin?

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:04 pm

When the Dolphins beat the Bills.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Berserker
03/23/2022 8:09 pm

damn

friends of our enemies? or some such thing 🙂

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:41 pm

It did occur to me that the only teams we hear about both directly compete with the Bills. Strengthen their competition, weaken our major road block?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:43 pm

Pay article, but the headline is damned interesting.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 7:47 pm

I don’t have a subscription either, sorry. I wondered about that angle when he wouldn’t work with them during the 2021 season. I also noticed that Hill was not among the group at Mahomes’ bachelor party.

upamtn
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:49 pm

Hill was not among the group at Mahomes’ bachelor party

oh, that poor child!

(for the record: I wasn’t there, either)

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 7:50 pm

doesn’t mean he was not invited

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 7:52 pm

oh, one has to be INVITED?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:42 pm

So you’re saying that Mahomes wanted Reek gone? Mahomes hated Tyreek? It’s all clear now.

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
03/23/2022 9:13 pm

I said no such a thing … just heard it at some Pizza Place when the guy in next booth mentioned something about someone and “Hill to climb” or whatever it was

upamtn
Reply to  Tony Sommer
03/23/2022 7:48 pm

friction *yawn* drama *over it* wanted biggest WR $ ever and pretty much got it *ain’t nobody worth that*

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:46 pm

1comment imageTyreek Hillcomment image MIA
WR$30,000,0002comment imageDavante Adamscomment image LV
WR$28,000,0003comment imageDeAndre Hopkinscomment image ARI
WR$27,250,000

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 7:56 pm

120 + 30 + 28 + 27.5 = $205.5M on four players

that’s stupid

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 7:58 pm

Mahomes is getting 45 million and totally worth it 🙂

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
03/23/2022 8:03 pm

oh, true dat … PM15’s actual annual “value to franchise” is probably neighborhood of $3-$5B (total revenue) so sure, what’s $50M or so when you’re talking about “THE Franchise”

hoosierchief
Reply to  upamtn
03/23/2022 8:09 pm

and none of them are qb’s

upamtn
Reply to  hoosierchief
03/23/2022 8:11 pm

does this “trend” mean that WR’s are actually more valuable to a franchise than a QB? say it isn’t so!

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  upamtn
03/24/2022 1:30 pm

It isn’t so.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:10 pm

FAKE NEWS

LIKE EB MEDIA STORY

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:12 pm

Nate Taylor isn’t exactly a fake news kinda guy.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 8:18 pm

Wasn’t he one of the media talking heads…that jumped all over that FAKE EB STORY.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
03/23/2022 8:27 pm

Doubtful, unless he was discussing the original article.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/24/2022 1:31 pm

Yes he is. He isn’t malicious about it like many, but he absolutely plays the controversy=clicks game.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:27 pm

And then there’s this. Who is right???

Leaf
Reply to  SCKSChief
03/23/2022 9:02 pm

Not him. Matty V has always had some ridiculous wrong teaks while pretending to be the ultimate chiefs insider. I would never trust anything he says.

Tyrone
Reply to  Leaf
03/23/2022 9:32 pm

“I’m told the Chiefs have not inquired about…”

What he really means:

“I have not been told that the Chiefs have inquired about…”

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
03/23/2022 7:26 pm

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