Tuesday Night O/T: The Chiefs Schedule Gets Much Easier

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upamtn
10/12/2021 10:50 pm

well … have y’all fixed the Chiefs yet???

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
10/12/2021 11:01 pm

No idea, I dropped out when it became clear that there wasn’t a conversation to be had about what’s actually going on. I can’t stop folks from griping and blaming, so why try?

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 11:05 pm

I’d appoint you as Interim General Manager if it would help any … well, maybe the “easier schedule” will be helpful and the team can reel off a few wins, get some confidence back

OTOH, if they don’t/can’t win against the downtrodden teams of the league, it’s all over (for the season) anyway, so there’s that

off to sleepland for me, gots an early show tomorrow (7 AM my time) … sleep well when ya get there, BRaG

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
10/12/2021 10:46 pm

Chucky gets yanked from the Tampa Ring of Honor. That’s got to be the smallest ring in the world.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/12/buccaneers-remove-jon-gruden-from-ring-of-honor/

EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:34 pm

Well, it has been a fun one – small crowd tonight though. Will probably post my next set of musical selections tomorrow so hoping for a big crowd – that reminds me that I need to call my ex-wife. I will hand this message to Hardman so we can drop it now. Be safe you all.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:40 pm

nite

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
10/12/2021 10:25 pm

EAFOX
Reply to  Severely Concussed
10/12/2021 10:27 pm

He might be able to play better defense decked out like that.

BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 9:45 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:37 pm

I always think HOW do you see me?

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:44 pm

Few people seem to realize that what they believe about HOW others view them is the major influence on HOW we look at ourselves. I often talk to teenagers trying to change about HOW difficult it is to change our perception about both of the above statements. Most teenagers readily agree with that concept.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 9:53 pm

You cannot love others if you don’t love yourself
within reason 🙂
I love that idea Fox

just a personal note, My stepmother had her licence plate AG Fox
She was disliked by everyone, cept my Dad. He never said anything bad about her.
he was loved by all of her and his kin. I love you Dad 🙂

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 10:02 pm

I have always told people – and I believe it to be true – that I am an evil person who struggles every day to push that away and try to do good.

I am an imperfect person with many undesirable qualities – temper, selfishness and such – but I feel liberated by trying to live the right way.

Love yourself and your family and your friends and even your enemies

Touched by the sentiment – I love you Dad.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:55 pm

“O wad some pow’r the giftie gie us
to see oursel’s as others see us
It would many a blunder free us
An’ foolish notion”
-Robert Burns

For the longest time I wanted that giftie, because I couldn’t understand what folks saw as wrong with me. I knew I wasn’t normal and had to struggle my way through the normal world, but I had no mutual points of reference with normal folks. Thus my formerly long, laborious posts, since that was a shotgun approach to trying to get across my meaning. Yes, I still can go on at times, but y’all can note that I’ve dialed it way back since then. That’s because I have two people in my life who could get where I was coming from well enough that they could help me bridge that gap.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:01 pm

I am not perfect and yes you have seem to be like be littling me at times

But I am learning, Carry on and Be You 🙂 I embrace that 🙂 Love you BRAG, we only have each other to get through this life

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:05 pm

Powerful poem – I knew you would be ready with one. I am glad for you that you were able to find two people to be your rock.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:59 pm

Knew it? If it’s the one you expected, then I played into it, really. It’s a timeless classic, but the funny thing is that while I’m not much into poetry, some things resonate with me, and stick. I have pursued what they used to call a liberal education all my life, and I think I’ve been damn good at it, too. It kinda baffles me how few here seem to realize how much ground I cover, each and every day, and the bulk of it has things I can learn. Nobody gets me much, that’s a reality of my life.

EAFOX
10/12/2021 9:16 pm

Interesting story – Black teenager – White teacher – I have a young man in my credit recovery class – He is a senior who has made several bad choices to be where he is at right now but he is a really good kid – just been lost these last few years. He needs to make up eleven credits – He has already finished three. Everyday I talk with him about seemingly random stuff – always try to throw a bit of advice his way. He has come to school stoned at times – I talk to him how weed took control of my brother’s life and became the ONLY thing he could think about. He has really been trying to do the right thing – not perfect – but really trying. We had a conversation last week – I suggested that he could form a “Man Club” – male seniors who could try and mentor the young freshmen guys not to go down the path they did. He seemed real interested. We started talking about who could sponsor such a club. He suggested me. He did not see race – He saw an old guy trying to help him get his life in order. I told him that I would be glad to help – but we should also find a strong black teacher role model as the one thing I never had to do was experience being a black man in America. The sad part of the story is that he could not think of anyone who fit that bill – nor could I. Not saying that black role models do not exist in the school but no name came leaping out. Race is a manageable issue at this level – Too bad we lose control as the level rises.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 9:31 pm

kudos to you and him

I love that idea, I was just now thinking of all my Children

mine and those of other mothers, I hope they are well.
I got to spend some some time Saturday with one of my daughters of other mothers
She is now a teacher and taught my grandson:) We talked a bit and I reminded her of me
She laughed, I was special, I am special, I loved people and accepted people that maybe were not so much at the time by their Family. We all need love and acceptance, especially when needed the most.

She loves me and my son and my grandsons, and we all need a woman to tell us NO!

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:38 pm

You hit it there – we all need love and acceptance. Many of the messed up people in the world – it all started with the feeling that they had no love and acceptance in their life. Teenagers especially – they can stare love and acceptance in the face and not recognize it. IF we all tried at every turn to add one more person to our personal circle, the world would be a better place.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:08 pm

I am sure worn out by raising just my kids and their friends, it cost me a lot of money and heartache
Well worth it But I cant do it again
I could of and should of ended up in jail
So many stories make a life worth living 🙂

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 10:14 pm

As many here would say the same, I am surprised that I am alive with all the crazy crap that I did early in life. My kids often tell me that I will drop down dead in the classroom – Been eligible to retire for over a decade – working and helping these teenagers keeps me going – I do dream of sitting at home and doing nothing but I feel like I would betray all of my students of the future.

EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:59 pm

Times can change – Took my kids out to eat and, as we were leaving, I was the last one lumbering up the stairs – damn I am getting old. Black lady gets out of her car – waits for me to get to the top of the stairs – she was loaded down with packages. I walked back down and held the door for her, telling her that “I was raised to hold the door for ladies” and she thanked me. When I was young, white men rarely held the door for black ladies – would be called a “N word” lover if you did. Maybe – just maybe – this crap called racism will disappear generations down the line.

PS Not to change the moral of the story but she was cute as well. I am trying to convince myself that I would have done the same thing had she been less gorgeous.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 9:35 pm

I hold the door for anyone. I am not going to let the door slam on anyone
I don’t care I was a boy scout:)

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:39 pm

I hold the door for anyone when I am near the door. Not sure if I would have went back down the stairs to hold the door open had she not been cute. Have to be honest with that answer.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:05 pm

I’ve long held doors for pretty much anyone, as time and situations allow. Anyone with a load, in particular. But that’s not what I come here to talk about, I come to talk about the draf… No, wait, that’s next month.

Back when we were living in Lansing, I was the primary food shopper and cook. This placed me in a lot of grocery store parking lots on the regular. The other significant factor is that I’m a hat guy, and still have one of my great-grandpa’s fedoras (not a trilby). Wearing one in KC in the summertime was very practical, but because I had become an aficionado of manners (Be the example you wish to teach), I liked to tip my hat to ladies when I passed them. Cont’d

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:16 pm

As it happens, Leavenworth has the sort of church where the Black ladies and gentlemen would get dressed to the nines for the Sunday service. Such formally fancy dress was a blatant invitation to tip my hat, and I’ve never seen such consistently bright smiles as from these older Black ladies and gentlemen. I mean that, because the husbands smiled just as brightly.

After a few experiences of that, it struck me that they could remember a time when a White man would never tip his hat to Blacks, it’s a token of respect. That cemented it in place for me, because I understood the source of their happiness, and I wanted to spread it around. I was also the one to teach a Black teenager, about 13-15, about Motown, of all things. Blew my mind that he knew nothing, but he sure was eager to hit the net and find out more. None of that’s bragging, just the facts to the extent I can relate them. If you want bragging, well, there’s a 4yo girl right now who thinks very highly of me, and I have to live up to it. There, I can brag a lot.

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:24 pm

IF I go back 40 years, a small group of teachers and I took four Junior High students to the plaza to eat at some fancy restaurant – cannot remember the name of the place – as a reward for straight A’s. We told the students to dress up and we came in our best as well. Two stories stick out – one, I had to show the young man, raised by a single mom, how to tie a tie. Two, one of the girls came decked out in a prom type dress. After we ate, we walked around the plaza. Some lady – around 80 or so – saw me walking next to a 13 year old girl in a prom dress and remarked about what a cute couple we made. I knew I looked young back then but damn.

EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:49 pm

Does anyone know how many starts that Remmers has in his contract before he receives a hefty bonus for being a starter? A conspiracy theorist might deduce that the Chiefs will magically come one under that number if Niang is replaced. I still think that the upside of Niang is worth keeping him in there for now.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:54 pm

he was horrible Sunday

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:55 pm

needs more salt and pepper maybe

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 9:00 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:23 pm

I agree with you about Niang, and to a limited extent, Steve. He flubbed some plays in the last game, but he’s working with a fellow rookie on a scratch-built OL. That causes mistakes, as well as amplifying them. Focusing on Niang’s errors while leaving out the context explains nothing. He’s likely going to be better than Remmers, though I have a vain hope that Mitch will come back, perhaps take over, but either way mentor him. Remmers is decent, but Schwartz is elite, and that’s a mental matter, since he’s not a specimen out there.

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:26 pm

I hate to correct you but Mitch used to be elite. Not sure what he could bring to the table now.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:51 pm

Nor am I sure, but your correction’s slightly misplaced. In this case I should have added that his return would me him being in football shape, post-recovery. It remains that in his prime, Mitch wasn’t elite because of his physical traits, but his mental ones, and that includes a lot that can be shared.

All of that hinges on if he recovers enough, though, which is what makes the above a vain hope, not a real one.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 10:53 pm

gotta pry him outta the kitchen

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
10/12/2021 8:39 pm

Google
SUPERMAN SON

SMH
It is, what it is.

EAFOX
Reply to  gonzangkc11
10/12/2021 8:43 pm

Hope no one is hiding the kryptonite up their ass…

EAFOX
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 8:33 pm

I would suggest BRAG – the two of you have been working together and he is very articulate with his words.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:35 pm

jeebus

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:42 pm

Well, give him a list of topics NOT to talk about….

hoosierchief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 8:35 pm

so you don’t mean a reference like wikipedia?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 8:49 pm

Ghengis Khan gave you a thumbs up

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:51 pm

AND nobody dares to argue with the Khan!!!

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 10:54 pm

… except Kirk

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 8:35 pm

I can do it

Should I include the gal with no Elbows?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:36 pm

your fetish for Kettle Corn?

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:37 pm

Whenever I hear Kettle Corn, I feel like I am getting ready to watch an old western.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 8:38 pm

Dude
You didn’t have 5 references ready yet. At bottom of all resumes. References available upon request

I need to charge for interviewing skills. 👍💰💰💲💸

EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:21 pm

History says more about us than the historical events we research. If we want to find racism in history, we will go looking for it – same thing happens no matter the topic.

EAFOX
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:25 pm

Same topic – different perspective. Some see the Gruden incidents as proof that racism is still rampant in society while others see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel as he lost his job due to insensitive thoughts. There could be an element of truth in both – or out right misinterpretations on both. Just cause Gruden was thinking and writing these thoughts is no proof that other white coaches are harboring the same thoughts. His resignation could be due to bad public image and no real sense that Mark Davis did not want a racist coaching his team.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:32 pm

I heard today that Al Davis was probably the most progressive NFL owner of his time
Black Coaches and Women in his inner mgmt circle, and maybe his son embraced that legacy

I also heard possibly it is the NFL throwing Gruden to the wolves to save Dan Snyder…

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:34 pm

True about Al Davis – kudos to that rat bastard. Cannot take Mark seriously with that haircut. We will never know would he had kept Gruden if the public furor was not out there.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:38 pm

His new mansion looks like his new stadium

I can see Darth Vader being test tubed in the basement

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:41 pm
upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 10:56 pm

I also heard possibly it is the NFL throwing Gruden to the wolves to save Dan Snyder…

this is sadly very plausible …. Snyder is the FIRST who needs to be GONE (well, he SHOULD have been gone years ago)

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:28 pm

Gruden History cost him 40 million or something

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:31 pm

Hope the poor bastard gets by on the millions that he already earned.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:34 pm

I don’t care
haha
he has to live with himself everyday
I can be poor and feel good about myself
Mental health 🙂

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:36 pm

Unfortunately, do you think Gruden really feels sorry about what he said. I am sure that he is playing the victim in his mind cause that is what most people do.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:52 pm

he is Chuckie

a murdering 3 foot tall doll with a 2 foot knife

What do you think?

screw him

I hope he enjoyed the bus victory lap around Arrowhead

in the year WE went to the Super Bowl 🙂

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:53 pm

The bus lap was the crowning achievement in his tenure.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:56 pm

smoke time

thank gawd someone created Tobacco

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:59 pm

my bad

Who thinks those Chinese miners bringing up those Rare Earth Metals are getting paid anything?

Thank you I have my Apple I-Phone

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:59 pm

Woke is not history

it is Current

hoosierchief
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 9:05 pm

I might have to pull up the Raiders “know your enemy” history and do some revising now…

BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 8:13 pm
EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:12 pm

Damn – I missed a political discussion and you know how I love to throw my two cents in for those. As a side note, I saw that we activated Prince Tega Wanogho. I find that to be interesting – was someone trying to pilch him? He did not look ready during the preseason.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:20 pm

It quickly got more political than I care to participate in, so I’ve extracted myself. Once Ups decided to bring up unspecified problems with the Extreme Right in a conversation specifically about the Extreme Left, that was it. Mudslinging like that’s a red herring.

Beyond that, too many folks want to talk about how very, very bad our defense is, but if you’re just saying that, there’s no place for the conversation to go, other than escalating the condemnations and finding people to blame. Of course, that’s why fixing the blame onto someone’s the preferred course of action, because you can always blame it on someone. Fixing the actual problem is hard, and takes a lot of thinking.

Better to blame other, it feels so good.

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 8:31 pm

When talking about politics, everything and everyone is fair game. I do not recall many if any political conversations that did not bounce back and forth between left and right.

As for football, I will use Dirty Dan as an example. Some like him and some do not – their choice. All of the tape shows that he is struggling this year in covering deep and being a consistent tackler. That could be blaming him or simply stating facts. I do believe that we do need to aim for more than cut him without any real solutions.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
10/12/2021 7:41 pm

Only good thing with Chiefs losing these 3 games is Chiefs can c Defense SUX!!
.
If chiefs were 5-0…alot of fools would be saying. We still won.
.
Now Andy/Spags can’t hide & must address the EmbarraZZing Defense!!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
10/12/2021 7:46 pm

I still don’t believe they will accept that it is a bad defense. Greg Robinson would be proud.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:47 pm

Andy has a history of this covering up for his D being bad

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
10/12/2021 7:46 pm

what is your plan to fix the Defense?

I was hoping to turn the D loose after the Chiefs took the kickoff and scored the 1st TD

well that did.t work vs Bills

BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:19 pm
SCKSChief
SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:17 pm

Not sure this schedule can get easy enough for this team with the way they are currently performing. Nate was right, they are bad right now.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:19 pm

it said right in the article the Chiefs have played the toughest schedule to date

even our easy one was on the road

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:22 pm

Your statement doesn’t change the fact that they are a bad team right now. It’s one thing to play well and lose to a better team, or a team who is just a buzzsaw. I don’t think any of their losses can be qualified as such.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:31 pm

Baltimore, LA, and the Buffalo Bills are now the presumed favorites
Cause the Chiefs are just that good other than Buffalo were close games

I watched ta game yesterday Ravens vs someone and Indy had a huge lead heading into the 4th quarter

Indy blew it

a lot of games with the rules favoring Offense are ending that way this year

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:32 pm

The team hasn’t played well to date, it’s true, but the question is why it’s so. Steve offered one reason, which you seem to have dismissed, so I’ll couple it to the fact that we’ve played some notable defenses in that time, and the OL hadn’t been together long. That limits the playbook until they’ve settled in and jelled.

But given your previous reply to Steve, your answer seems likely to be that my addition isn’t a compounding factor to an unimportant observation, and the fact remains that they’re bad. This leaves no way to have a conversation about anything but playing the blame game, and I’m not inclined to single out scapegoats the way that many fans do.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:38 pm

thanks

But I will call out one person

Sorenson needs to play that 3rd safety/LB role

he cannot do deep safety anymore

but neither can Honey Badger

so we need a 2nd deep safety and it appears we don’t have one
I really love Honey Badger, but unless we find 2 deep safeties to let HB play basically the same role as Sorenson….. We have a flawed D

that all leads to the fact we do not have the cash to re-sign HB, Sorenson is gone in 2022 and we either have to draft 2 Safeties or play Thornhill and see what he has this year

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:41 pm

I thought Thornhill was supposed to BE “the deep safety” … that said, the whole D is an issue

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  upamtn
10/12/2021 7:45 pm

He is not going to be that guy, it seems.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:44 pm

My answers were detailed in the other thread on the same topic. Thanks for dismissing my opinion as unimportant because I offered a statement that merely referenced a thread…whereas Steve merely referenced an article. Not sure how those two things are so different actually.

The defense has zero redeeming qualities right now. They cannot rush the passer, all their DL are essentially JAGs. Jones got paid and has regressed. Their LBs are lost and the DBs are all just…slow and don’t show a willingness to learn their craft as they are constantly out of position or whiffing on tackles.

When this is added to the fact that Mahomes is suddenly very average and there is no one else on the offense really stepping up to help, that is problematic. Eleven turnovers in the last 13 quarters is a serious issue. Mahomes is taking crazy risks that aren’t paying off, the WRs are tipping catchable passes into the air causing INTs, they are dropping catchable passes with far too much frequency. The OL has been a cause for hope, but it is obvious Mahomes doesn’t trust his OTs.

I hope these are reason enough to come to the conclusion that this is currently a bad football team.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:53 pm

The defense can’t really call themselves that right now. 🙁

But I have to disagree on Mahomes. I don’t think he’s suddenly average. Despite last week, he still leads the league in TD passes and QBR.

Yards: 7th
TD passes: 1st
Completion %: 8th
QBR: 1st
RTG: 8th

Where Mahomes is average is yards per attempt (7.6). He’s tied with 4 others there. It’s pretty obvious that teams are taking away the long game and he is forced (?) to dink and dunk in the short game.

Last edited 13 days ago by MasterChief
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  MasterChief
10/12/2021 7:56 pm

Mahomes has his own issues

he has two players that he can rely on

Hill and Kelce

he has one Offensive lineman he trusts

Joe Thuney

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  MasterChief
10/12/2021 7:57 pm

He has not been as sharp and seems confused quite a bit. I guess I’m not meaning he IS average, but his play looks quite average…maybe that’s just because he is decidedly not himself. Fair enough argument.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 8:00 pm

I totally agree. He’s definitely NOT 2018 Mahomes right now.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  MasterChief
10/12/2021 8:09 pm

He was a raw rookie testing his wings

eventually all of us

realize we only have so many

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:10 pm

Mahomes needs more useful toys

hoosierchief
Reply to  MasterChief
10/12/2021 8:17 pm

I think the problem with Mahomes is that the looks teams have been giving them this year are different than the norm. He is reading them one way and the receivers are reading them different, therefore running routes he doesn’t expect. This screws up the timing as well as helps with interceptions. While adjusting on the fly can get the ball close, its not near as pinpoint as what we are used to seeing.

EAFOX
Reply to  hoosierchief
10/12/2021 8:19 pm

AND not having people who can get consistently open –

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 7:54 pm

well stated and no I did not see your other comment

I agree the entire D has regressed, I think Jones is is a hell of a player but one man cannot stop 11, Clark is MIA, as is West, but the problem is we have to field 11+ Defensive players

I like Fenton, Sneed, Jones, Danna, and hopefully Gay and the MU LB can play too

we have holes

Hitchens and Sorenson

Guys trying to cover for older slower players is distorting the D

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:58 pm

They are on Nate’s article.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 7:17 pm

so tommorrow

the proctologist? IRS, report yourself to the FBI?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
10/12/2021 7:27 pm

no kettle corn

Snafu
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:21 pm

Dr Jellyfinger?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 6:56 pm

Woke was officially added into the Oxford English Dictionary as an adjective in June 2017.
The dictionary defines it as “originally: well-informed, up-to-date. Now chiefly: alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice”.
The Urban Dictionary, which published its original definition two years prior to the official dictionary, defines it as “being woke means being aware… knowing what’s going on in the community (related to racism and social injustice)”.
In other words, it means to be awake to sensitive social issues, such as racism.

and

The African-American novelist William Melvin Kelley wrote the earliest known use of the word under its new definition in an article titled, “If you’re woke, you dig it”.
Ten years later in 1972, a character in the Barry Beckham play Garvey Lives! says he’ll “stay woke” via the work of pan-Africanist, Marcus Garvey, with the line: “I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon stay woke. And I’m gon’ help him wake up other black folk”.

I find it odd that some use this derisively?

Being aware is a self defense mechanism, where ever you live anymore

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:01 pm

to add

at almost 60

I have always tried to be aware of those I deal with and whom and what they are…
Whether a Coke head, another man interested in me, a woman just looking for a partner, or someone just needing a smoke or a few bucks… Listening to others is the best way to understand others needs and desires

that is not Woke

That is being Human

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:44 pm

That’s true, being kind/tolerant to others is being a good human. Being one of the Woke is not, just like Liberals are not liberal and Progressives are regressive – and now I can’t lecture at any college in the USA. I said forbidden words, and the Woke never forget or forgive. They’re still after the guy who wrote The Bell Curve, and that “controversy” was overblown in the first place.

As I said, it’s not the definition of the word, it’s the actions of those who make it part of their sociopolitical identity. Do you hate everyone who criticizes their policies?

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:49 pm

way to lump everyone into special “BRaG doesn’t like these people because they seem to have different views then he does” categories … ie, liberals, progressives, etc … you really need to woke up your own self, BRaG

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:59 pm

well I have no idea what their politics are

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:38 pm

It’s not the definition of the word, it’s the behaviors of the self-styled wokists who are determined to make everyone else just as woke as they are, right down to holding opinions they approve of. Which means becoming just like them – or else they’ll savage you socially, perhaps even professionally.

MIT just canceled an invited speaker, a professor talking about his specialty, because of something unrelated to his research and scholarship. What was that, you might ask? He dared to speak critically of quota-based Affirmative Action programs for college admissions. That’s something that The Woke do to people, and that’s not awareness at all.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:44 pm

that is why I looked up the term
I have no idea what people that were never aware of actual human history decided when they became aware they were not the only people to ever live on this earth.

I have been aware of how bad humans treat each other since I was 12 and saw what the Germans did to the Jewish in WWII, rewriting history cannot clean the Stains

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:47 pm

Indeed, rewriting history cannot produce any good outcomes. How about you tell that to the 1619 Project? Nah, don’t bother, they’d tell you that you need to get woke, they’re advancing the cause of social justice by rewriting history.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:55 pm

oh, sorry … I guess Slavery never existed, and if it did it couldn’t POSSIBLY be because of WHITE MEN did, right? that would be too woke, too liberal, too progressive … it would also be TRUE

history! ho li schitt … WHITE MEN were responsible for BLACKS being SLAVES (especially right here in AMERICA

now YOU’RE trying to re-write history … SLAVERY FUCKING HAPPENED, and THAT’S what 1619 is all about … stop glossing over the FACTS

oh yeah, more HISTORY: the US Govt lied repeatedly to Native Americans, often outright murdered them en masse and turned them into “less than citizens” by FORCING them onto “reservations” … you wanna say THAT didn’t happen, too?

come on, BRaG … stop JUDGING and … you know: WAKE UP

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  upamtn
10/12/2021 8:04 pm

Black Tribal kings provided the slaves…
Just as Roman White Kings created slaves 2000 years before…

Egyptians enslaved the Jewish
Chinese enslaved the losers
English and French and Germans created serfdom

We all were children of slaves

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:05 pm

Yessir.

hoosierchief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:29 pm

Slavery has been a part of society for a long time. That doesn’t make it right, and we should be happy we are progressing to end most of it, at least in our country. However, that doesn’t mean we should act like it didn’t exist and tear down statues and such. erasing all memories of it. The reason for history is to learn from previous mistakes so they aren’t made again.
On another note, where I really disagree with this stuff it that if you are white, you should feel guilty because of slavery, and if you are black, you should feel owed. If that line of thought is correct, then if your ancestor committed a crime you should go to jail for it. Heck, a large portion of the Caucasian population here migrated from Europe long after the civil war. but we are still blamed…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  hoosierchief
10/12/2021 8:47 pm

What I said basically said we all have the same history, no one is special or entitled based on History itself.
If you were actually attacked due to rascism, that is something that the FBI is actively broadcasting to all, heard that FBI commercial today on the Radio..

We all are born and then have to create a plan with our parents or not to progress as humans, the social safety net is there to help, not be our lives…

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  upamtn
10/12/2021 8:05 pm

White men were not responsible. Who sold them to the white men? Who created the market? Societies OF ALL COLORS have held slaves OF ALL COLORS for ALL OF HISTORY.

Also I would LOVE to see a school district where the issue of slavery is not part of the curriculum.

Further, I’d like you to find a specific example of a school district where the problematic treatment of indigenous peoples is not taught.

The problem is these issues ARE taught. They are taught fairly. The current NEW curriculums are teaching hate and self-loathing. That is what BRAG is getting at…and he’s absolutely correct.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 8:13 pm

It needs to be taught

I self taught

The Holocaust and Civil war were on my own, not Public school

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:15 pm

wars of the English and persians and romans are not relevant

but Civil War onward are truly present history

beliefs are out there, reflected from those conflicts….

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:17 pm

We can find relevancy in the study of earlier history as well.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
10/12/2021 8:27 pm

sure

and we could actually teach economics, Trades, and the important three

Math, Language, and Science

It seems History is a moving target 🙂 and it is
cause it happens everyday

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  SCKSChief
10/12/2021 8:18 pm

just as Religeon should be taught in public school

What has more distorted history and public reaction than religeon

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 8:20 pm

woke should come to those zealots

upamtn
Reply to  steve_chiefs
10/12/2021 7:50 pm

thank you, Steve … you are 100% correct

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:47 pm

goes both ways … many on the other side of the wokeness are dismissive of anything that that the wokesters say and or do … IOW, just as Steve said: the term is often used derisively (by the very sleepers who need to wake the fuck up)

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
10/12/2021 7:53 pm

I’m dismissive of Wokists for the reasons I have laid out. Does that mean I need to wake the fuck up and join them in their fervent beliefs?

Does the other extreme deserve criticism? Of course, but they weren’t the topic at hand, so I did not address them. Must I always balance my criticism across the political divide now? Are there groups of folks that can’t be criticized? Policies that can’t be talked critically about?

Those are the goals of Blue-Backers, and they’re also the goals of the Woke Left. Happy now that I balanced things?

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
10/12/2021 7:59 pm

no, because I have a BORED meeting in 2 minutes …

laters

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
10/12/2021 6:51 pm

I guess my boss is mad at me. He gave me 12 hours of work to do today. Not getting off until close to 9.

rip58
rip58
Reply to  Severely Concussed
10/12/2021 7:29 pm
Snafu
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10/12/2021 7:45 pm
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