Thursday Night Open Thread : Jim Lynch Dies at 76

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Welcome to AG’s nightly Open Thread, drop in and join a conversation, or start one yourself.

Forever linked to the 1969 Super Bowl team, Jim Lynch died today. He was 76. He and Willie Lanier roomed together on the road, and were the first Black/White roommates in professional football. If you get the chance, watch the 1969 America’s Game. He was a remarkable man.

https://www.chiefs.com/hallofhonor/players/jimlynch

Thank you for the football and humanity, Mr Lynch

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pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 10:22 pm

thank you

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 10:32 pm

Good call.

BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 10:12 pm

On to more pleasant things, such as science.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 10:11 pm

Stop Hawley, stop! (He’s one of those dicks who never should have been elected, and while that category sprawls widely across the aisle, he’s particularly notable. Same goes for Devin Nunes, who stopped at nothing to try to unmask a satirical cow account on Twitter that pissed him off.

I can think of several Dems who are about as bad as them, but I’ll leave picking them out to the audience. If they don’t, it’ll be because they don’t want to look.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 10:32 pm

I did not give them this “cover” you claim, I was pointing out that while the political conversations have been so hyper-focused on Republicans evil, y’all have been giving cover to the ongoing misdeeds of current Democrats. I’m serious, your dismissive tone toward my concerns about things that are happening right now as opposed to something that happened in the past speaks volumes, at least to me.

Unfortunately, I expect that this reply is more likely to piss you off than make you think, so I’m dropping it here. Say what you will, if you must, but you’ll be talking to others.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 10:49 pm

*in the past does not ameliorate the damage, ignoring it does

by your logic current events become less important, given time

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 10:51 pm

and yes I am hyper focused because the discussion is going down now, not going to ignore it

pompano
07/21/2022 9:48 pm

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pompano
07/21/2022 9:21 pm

worst. take. out. reel. ever

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/21/2022 9:10 pm

pompano
07/21/2022 9:04 pm

we love you

pompano
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 9:04 pm

Jesus wept

pompano
07/21/2022 9:02 pm

wondering if I should disable Avast before letting the IT comp set my desktop icons for the new gig?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 9:05 pm

have another drink and give it some thought

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pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 9:06 pm

way ahead of you

pompano
07/21/2022 8:48 pm

such a thing happened…

pompano
07/21/2022 8:47 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 8:49 pm

does the fuckin swan retrieve his slippers, too?

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 8:52 pm

imma little high

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 8:57 pm

I’m jelly

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:58 pm

’cause jam don’t shake like that

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:59 pm

*also very liitle 🙁

river
river
07/21/2022 7:31 pm

You know what I’d really like to see is the guys eating at training camp, like to get a close up of all the different foods on the buffet and see the boys chow after a good practice. Is that doable?

pompano
Reply to  river
07/21/2022 7:47 pm

I’ve seen it in the past, whole spread with every option informed by team trainers/nutritionists.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:53 pm

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probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 7:59 pm

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pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 8:00 pm

GMTA

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 8:13 pm

???

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 8:15 pm

great minds think alike

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 8:20 pm

NIMBY

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 7:59 pm

Meet the Flintstones…

river
river
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 9:40 pm

Make a good start

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 11:29 pm

Mmmm… Food Porn … ; )

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:24 pm

derilction of duty

I could have been given an article 15 for failing to do my duty

just being an AB as a door guard at Lackland AFB in basic training

Last edited 6 days ago by steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:26 pm

The President of the USA is also the General in charge basically of the US military

The General of the Joint Chiefs is his chain of command

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 8:17 pm

No American President has failed to do his duty to protect America

till January 6

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 8:23 pm

inaction is not an option at some point

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:28 pm

but your honor, my client has no sense of duty.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:31 pm

we were schmuks

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:34 pm

hey, I liked the guy as a guest on Stern. Fighting tabloid writers, rating women, being a buffoon.
not qualities for a chief exec.

river
river
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:50 pm

They were schumks

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  river
07/21/2022 7:53 pm

I served in the miltary

he called us schmuks for possibly fighting and dying for the USA

Leaf
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 8:05 pm

He’s Homelander

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:31 pm

they’ve done a good job of showing it was intentional and planned.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:47 pm

During his entire presidency we were told we had “trump derangement syndrome”. People would come here and ridicule us.Tell us it was all in our heads how much of a threat this guy was. Honestly didn’t think he’d push it as far as he did. Bottom line, those of us that expressed our outrage over this a…… were right.

pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 7:53 pm

yeah, “mean tweets!”
I could give a fuck about that, they were but a symptom.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:55 pm

I am sorry

He was never honorable enough to serve as US President for me

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:56 pm

I voted against Bill Clinton after monica

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:58 pm

lying about pussy is as old as the hills

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 8:01 pm

I expect better, I am usually disappointed

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 8:05 pm

lack of honor is in the top 5 reasons he never should had even been a candidate, for sure.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:56 pm

Saw a bumper sticker the other day, “mean tweets 2024”. I was like…

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Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 8:04 pm

To be fair, many were taking the stance that he wasn’t doing anything that all the other politicians weren’t. They are just better at covering their asses. Everyone one of them fuckers in Washington are corrupt and everyone of them covers shit up regularly

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:08 pm

we need term limits

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 8:11 pm

Yes we do. The problem is, how does that happen? We have one vote, that’s the only power we have over these people.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 8:11 pm

we use what power we have

Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 8:17 pm

We have to start talking about it all the time so that the idea spreads among the masses. We have to pose the question to our government leaders regularly so they can’t simply ignore it. If it’s a big enough issue, it will be hard for the government to ignore. Case in point abortion. They tried to ignore the issue for decades, but now it’s a raging inferno on both sides of the argument that no one can pretend isn’t important to the people

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:21 pm

CRT!!!

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:09 pm

Agree. Tried to give him the benefit of the doubt at the beginning. Helsinki made me realize he was unfit.

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/21/2022 7:11 pm
Leaf
07/21/2022 7:03 pm

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:37 pm

What was ol’ Fivehead doing at Arrowhead?

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 7:41 pm

On Reddit they were guessing maybe doing something for his show.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:42 pm

peytonville legos?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:02 pm

well I don’t know about any of you

but I want to know what was happening in the white house

I was installing a store on Jan 6, When I heard what was happening I drove for like an hour and a half cause I had no idea what would happen next

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:05 pm

Because the government is supposed to serve the will of the people, there really is nothing they should be allowed to hide from us

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:07 pm

We the People

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:41 pm

That’s both legally true and impractical, to the point that we wouldn’t have a functional gov’t. I’m all for greater transparency than we’re getting (the secrecy that PDs and other LE orgs guard so jealously is appalling, just f’rex), but some things have to remain at Need To Know level and above.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 7:45 pm

It all comes out in the wash

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 7:49 pm

I understand that, you can never have 100% transparency, but this isn’t top secret military plans, this I’d information about potential criminal wrong doing and that should not be allowed to be covered up without consequences. On any other given day you can argue we don’t have a need to know that info. But now that there’s reason to believe there might be something wrong going on were the people have every need to know. And it’s not like they are releasing everything straight to the public. It’s to our elected representatives who have the same clearances the Secret Service. They can go through the information and release to us anything that is relevant, while protecting any sensitive information about the Secret Service. Nixon wasn’t allowed to hide watergate. Trump and these guys shouldn’t be allowed to hide this

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pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 7:49 pm

fair enough, but records being deleted after notice to preserve?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 9:31 pm

If that can be proven, then it’s a crime.

However, that’s not exactly new behavior. Remember all the California PDs who purged their records when a new transparency law was about to take effect? It’s almost certain that a percentage of those records were illegally destroyed, and this also occurred in MN. After George Floyd was murdered, cops statewide, especially the HiPo, deleted texts on their official phones, and those are barely the beginning.

Nice you finally noticed, though.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 9:37 pm

I’ve been aware.
This is Sec Svc not a PD.
PDs break laws all the time with immunity

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 10:00 pm

You’re right, the Secret Service has considerably more leeway and protection than the police, FBI, etc. Do you think that the outcome of that culture appeared out of nowhere, just because a loose cannon had become the man it was their job to protect?

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 10:19 pm

no. I do think it odd that a head of detail took a leave of absence to work in the WH staff w/o retiring from SSS

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 10:07 pm

How, “off with their heads!”? There’s another principle in play here, though, ‘unusual cases are bad bases for laws’, and another in ‘making a law during a crisis (i.e. rushed through) often leads to bad outcomes’. Of course, we could go for the trifecta, since ‘a law named after someone is a bad law until proven otherwise’.

None of those are my own sayings, I’ve picked them up from lawyers, in particular a crotchety old Democratic defense lawyer. He also taught me a fallacious syllogism:

Something must be done
This is something
This must be done

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 10:22 pm

it’s been an unaddressed issue for decades because no one belived it could happen….it seems to have happened

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 11:43 pm

Or :
This was Done
It was a Fluke
Let’s not protect ourselves from it ever happening again … : (

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
07/21/2022 11:40 pm

Whew … ” You’ve really seem to have a bad case of ” Whataboutism ” … Throw in some “White Grief ” & a lil’ more ” Conspiracy Theory ” & get a free MAGA hat … ; )

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:11 pm

Watched the entire day at my office. From the rally till trump called off his dogs. It was like 9/11 all over again. Except this time it was Americans attacking us. And it’s not over.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 7:13 pm

exactly

It felt like 911 all over again

pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 7:16 pm

remember watching 9/11 on a 8″ BW tv.
a Tuesday

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:29 pm

it was the same feeling

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 7:15 pm

watched it happen live, multiple outlets, it is not time to move on…unless that means indictments.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:16 pm

trump will never be indicted

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 7:17 pm

prob not, looks like GA gonna try

pompano
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:18 pm

whole laundry list of others eligible, though.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
07/21/2022 7:00 pm

So an entire law enforcement agency has lawyered up? Do not remember hearing of anything like this. Maybe the “deep state” is a real thing. It’s just not who was being accused of it. It’s the accusers.

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Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
07/21/2022 7:07 pm

I’m all honesty, and not to start a fight, but I’m seriously curious what our trump supporting friends think about this.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:09 pm

they think Biden did it

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 7:43 pm

but copies of his hard drive altered months later…..

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:12 pm

unless it changes their support idgaf

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:38 pm

That’s why I’m curious. Do they realize how fucked up this is regardless of your political leaning, or do they have some twisted logic excusing these actions?

Last edited 6 days ago by Leaf
pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:42 pm

not interested

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:51 pm

To each their own. But you can never reach your enemy if you don’t understand them

Last edited 6 days ago by Leaf
pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:58 pm

true, but if you understand it’s nonsense (which it is) how do you convince otherwise. factual/logical falacies held as beliefs will not be moved.

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 8:11 pm

True. But you’ll miss 100% of shots you don’t take

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:15 pm

Wayne!
can you aim the puck at the head?

Leaf
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 8:10 pm

I get that. There will always be crazy people that believe crazy. That will never change. I was curious about our AG members that have defended him up until that point. I really wanted to see what they were thinking on this. I accepted that they might still think this is all made up slander to force the US down a “leftist dystopia”, but I wanted to hear that from them, not assume that they were unreachable

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 8:18 pm

well, you put out the invite…..there is no defense other than “it was fine if he got away with it…

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 8:27 pm

a certain someone’s head is about to explode, or biding time until claiming they weren’t really supporters.
I’d very surprised by a real flip.

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 8:40 pm

I took that as a given 🙂

  • does not qualify as a response
Last edited 6 days ago by pompano
Leaf
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 7:40 pm

Protect and protect. Keep him from harm while he serves the well of the people, yes. Protect him from the people he failed to serve properly, no.

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
07/21/2022 7:51 pm

well no. His personal security is the paramount function, regardless of the nature of the threat.

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
07/21/2022 7:40 pm

that’s why they are supposed to be apolitical.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
07/21/2022 7:46 pm

like Egyptian Eunuchs

pompano
07/21/2022 7:00 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:51 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:53 pm

so rinestone boots and worn out pants, see they aren’t even buttoned?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:54 pm

and they’re worn out at the knees!

if only she had a flat head for someplace to rest my beer

Last edited 6 days ago by zulu trader
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:55 pm

she earned that ring

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:56 pm

you know the best place to relax and have a few beers is a swamp

I love the sounds of nature, Fishing without actually fishing is great

pompano
07/21/2022 6:36 pm

zulu trader
zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:30 pm

a balmy 113 degrees today

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:32 pm

where are they going to build that new A’s Stadium at?

seems MLB wants to expand and youse guys are holding up the show…..

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:34 pm

they’re staying in oakland

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:35 pm

awesome maybe Tampa Bay is coming to LV

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:37 pm

MLB last expanded in 1998, when the (Devil) Rays and Diamondbacks joined the league. We are currently in MLB’s longest expansion drought since the league first expanded in 1961. There are no shortage of viable expansion cities (Charlotte, Montreal, Nashville, Portland, Las Vegas, etc.) or prospective owners. Owning an MLB team is very lucrative and many people want in. 
The biggest issue standing in the way of expansion is the Athletics and Rays, specifically their ballpark situations. Manfred has said those two clubs need new stadiums before MLB can consider expanding. Part of that is leverage — MLB wants to continue using Las Vegas as a relocation option as Oakland seeks a new park in the Bay Area, for example — and part of it is just doing what’s right.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:38 pm

there is less humidity than Florida 🙂

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
07/21/2022 6:40 pm

and Yankee fans

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  steve_chiefs
07/21/2022 6:42 pm

Yankee fans suck. Boston fans a close second.

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