Friday Night Open Thread: Kansas City Gets the World Cup, and Victories of the Week

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Welcome to AG’s nightly Open Thread, drop in and join a conversation, or start one yourself.

Although I’m not a huge soccer person, this is definitely a VotW for everybody who lives in Kansas City. When you look at the list of cities that will also be hosting, Kansas City is a clear outlier in terms of size. This will be one of the biggest events in the city’s history.

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pompano
06/17/2022 11:04 pm

whomever is DVing leaf w/o comment
Fuck
Off and
Die

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 11:05 pm

Concur.

pompano
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 11:57 pm

.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:12 pm

just wanted to listen to it

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:23 pm
pompano
06/17/2022 9:01 pm

a good faith argument requires, at a minimum. a belief in said, even w/o support.
An argument w/o support and with prevailing evidence against (even from within) is no longer in good faith…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:11 pm

Perhaps, but if so, that does not necessarily make the argument in bad faith. Misguided faith also exists.

Beware two-value thinking. That’s digital, but reality is analog, after all.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 9:14 pm

I have misguided faith?

I believe in a supreme being, does he involve himself in petty human crap?

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:21 pm

All I know it’s his noodly appendages leave me smelling of tomato sauce

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:38 pm

FSM
RUUUEELLSSS!!

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NovaChiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:42 pm

R’amen my brother. Arrrggh!

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:23 pm

I’m leaning more Diest the older i get….an uncaring, and unknowable force,

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:26 pm

Earth which gives us life?

we are maybe a plague like ticks on her skin

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:29 pm

the planet will survive, the biosphere is badly damaged…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:33 pm

it will have thousands of years to recover

would be interesting to see what rises to replace us?

most every evolved species has had a crack at making Earth Eden

but every species has decided that it is a

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:41 pm

“maybe”?
That’s not a maybe

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:32 pm

The older I get, the farther away from believing there is anything out there. But I respect others desires to hope for something more. I may joke about belief, but I say do whatever makes you happy.

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:37 pm

I would agree

But I still have a sense of propriety, whether it means anything at all

I still prefer to treat people like I would like to be treated

some fail miserably but many rise well above to make this place bearable?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:17 pm

For myself, I do not do unto others what I do not do unto myself – but don’t push it, buster. Meant generically, of course.

As for faith, I hope that there’s something beyond this life, but I’m otherwise agnostic, of the “is it ignorance or apathy? I don’t know, and I don’t care” variety.

One thing I will do, however, is speak up against those who call the Bible a pack of lies or a work of fiction, and Nasrani can verify that. It’s actually an archeological set of documents, and while I don’t believe it’s particularly reliable, there are both facts and truths to be found in it. Brushing it off as nothing is merely intellectual laziness.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:27 pm

the words of the bible are a written history but like 1000 years later

the actual words of the new testament are words to create a liveable society, many have used it for personal gain but , just living by the truths make the world better

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:31 pm

but if it all boils down to “the golden rule”, can we jettison some stuff?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:34 pm

what is important is life

everything on earth has a life

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:35 pm

if it is not born it does not count

fricken dumb asses

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:35 pm

Jesus said the same thing. That’s part of why the Jews hated him so much.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:38 pm

And the Romans.

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:39 pm

Romans didn’t really hate him, more his followers. For the most part the Romans were pretty apathetic to the whole Jesus thing

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:43 pm

till the emporer chose to change to Cgristianity

sorry I am not correcting my spelling

the west folded and the Roman empire became christianople and the christian reign began in the west…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:46 pm

OK, not hate, but if he asserted that there’s only one deity, and all others are false, the Romans would still take legal action against them, if they kicked up a fuss. Making an example of a leader who preached that the emperor’s divinity was false wasn’t the sort of thing they’d overlook, taken that far.

Regardless, the Sanhedrin didn’t have the authority to crucify. It was a purely Roman ritual.

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:50 pm

Romans didn’t believe that the emperor was divine. Hence why they felt powerful enough to overthrow several of them.

And true the Romans were the ones to crucify him, but they only did so because the Jews kept begging them to do so. Pilot just got fed up there constant complaining about the guy so he did it just so he could be done with it.

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:53 pm

we should take that lesson to heart in America

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:56 pm

.

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 11:43 pm

IFAK no court records survived.
Never really dug into supposed forensic evidence.
the son of (G)od does not leave a paper trail

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:50 pm

true – as apathetic as they were to any unrest

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:58 pm

There wasn’t really any unrest while Jesus was alive and that’s my point. While he was alive they viewed most of the “unrest” to local squabbling and really wanted the Jews to handle the issue themselves. It was when the disciples ventured out after Jesus was crucified and spread “the word” that they started to give a shit about Christianity.

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 11:12 pm

several Jewish revolts preceded Xmas, might have been under control at the moment, but don’t take much…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:40 pm

so his christian church would hate him too

not like he had a say

the words of the bible do not need a church to be read and mostly followed

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:48 pm

I don’t disagree. While there are some really great Christians that truly live the way Jesus taught, there’s unfortunately way too much hypocrisy throughout Christianity

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:51 pm

I chose
to follow my faith alone
My mother taught me a path 🙂

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 11:00 pm

Keep up the good work brother.

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:44 pm

I equate “love thy brother,,,,”
with GR

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 11:02 pm

Absolutely. I wasn’t criticizing you. I was adding to and supporting your comment

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 11:16 pm

too late for this theological rabbit hole…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:31 pm

I can turn the other cheek

I have lived a life that someone can disagree, steal, attack me….

I can turn a cheek

I hold no anger

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:37 pm

Deism has no promises.
fairly fatalistic

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:06 pm

I have no idea, actually.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 9:16 pm

*legal sense
and you knew it

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:07 pm

I did, and said what I said in good faith.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:12 pm

Misguided and unsupported …..fusck…..scotus?…
“you’re call is very important to us……………………

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:24 pm

There are seldom cases where a single proposition is supported or unsupported, that’s why elements of legal cases are routinely thrown out, particularly at the appellate level. If you’re fixed on a specific case, all I can say is that it’s not as simple as it appears. Indeed, in legal matters, the thorniest problems are very simple, but balance significant, foreseeable outcomes, strictly in legal terms. Qualified Immunity can serve as an unrelated example.

Trying to force human interaction into binary states is even worse than trying to do so with objective reality. Binary is very convenient, though, I have to admit that.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:28 pm

there is not a specific case before a court now,,,generally

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:35 pm

Perhaps, but there are pending rulings. I can’t sort out which court case you have in mind, but I stand by my point: Like reality, law is seldom binary, when taken in context. Sentencing’s a clear example of that, but it’s everywhere else, too.

The devil’s in the details, if you trivialize the entire process, you’ll never be able to see the moving parts.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:41 pm

true, frustrating

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:47 pm

When I look at a rainbow, I don’t itemize, I just take it in.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 10:57 pm

fuck that shit

pompano
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:58 pm

😃

EAFOX
06/17/2022 8:43 pm

My first take on the WR group

WR # 1-2
JuJu and MVS – The only question is which one emerges as the number one option.

WR # 3 (For Now)
Mecole Hardman – How long until he drops?

WR # 3 (In Progress)
Skyy Moore – How long until he rises?

WR # 4 – The most important position in my mind. IF JuJu or MVS need rest or miss time, can the fourth receiver take their spot so the third receiver does not have to move out of position. Thinking such, I believe the Chiefs are looking for a veteran or accomplished second year player.
Josh Gordon
Justin Watson
Daurice Fountain
Corey Coleman – I favor the first three as they all are much taller than Coleman and, honestly, I have no clue how much he played in the slot or on the outside with the Giants.

WR # 5 – Special Athletic Game Changer
Justyn Ross – we have seen the highlights
Jerrion Ealy – a combo DAT/Tyreek athlete?

WR # 6 – This position is Fountain’s unless he breaks thru above.

WR who need to be better than Cornell Powell to make the practice squad.
Omar Bayless
Gary Jennings
Aaron Parker

WR left on the current roster
Cornell Powell – I believe the only reason he made the practice squad is cause the Chiefs did not want to admit they made a mistake drafting him.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Tony Sommer
06/17/2022 8:41 pm
Leaf
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 10:30 pm

The Mandela Effect from this movie still blows my fucking mind

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probablyamistake
probablyamistake
06/17/2022 8:34 pm
NovaChiefs
Reply to  probablyamistake
06/17/2022 8:40 pm

It was just a “dust up”. Ask Del Rio.

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 8:50 pm

but real Americans don’t gaf about it anymore….
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NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:00 pm

Which really makes me question their idea of what this Country is about. If that spectacle is fine with someone, then what do they think this country is based on? Clearly not laws or Democracy. If someone is willing to flush all that down the tubes for Donald Trump, because he told them he deserved to be President, I can’t understand them anymore.
What in the world do they need to see?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 9:06 pm

sorta a different take

my son talking

his generation and those behind him at 35

have only gotten crap through the years

he turned 14 in 2000, and the world melted on computer concerns
he turned 23 in 2009 and the the mortgage meltdown
he turned 33 in 2019 and Covid destroyed the US economy

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:08 pm

not to mention our US troops sent to fight for near on 20 years

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:10 pm

there was so much easy money in dealing drugs and quitting

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:11 pm

And it’s going to get worse.
However, none of that changes what this country was built on. If those under 35 want to tear it up and start over for economic/environmental/health reasons, have at it. Fix what people MY age were SUPPOSED to fix.
You can’t, in any way, use that as a justification for what happened. Or even an explanation

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 9:20 pm

No I am not

I am just reporting what people a generation behind is probably thinking

The system seemed to work for my generation, I am 60

it is not working for their generation

he says the Boomers just won’t retire
No we don’t cause we don’t know how too….

All we know is working our asses off for our parents of the greatest generation who taught us how to work,,,,

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:37 pm

Uhhh … We can’t afford to … : (

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  KCChef
06/17/2022 9:38 pm

that too

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:39 pm

I get it and feel for them.
I am convinced that my parents and I managed to live during the best time in human history.
Before my parent were born, even an easy life was hard. REALLY hard if you didn’t have an easy life. People died from the simplest things. After me, I’m afraid that life is again going to get hard. And if the idiots messing with the political system get their way, it’s going to be very, very hard.
The climate is going to keep doing what it’s been doing lately and economies are going to shift and some aren’t going to survive. Water is going to be the next big crisis. There will probably be wars over not oil, but water and farmable land.
It’s going to be crazy. I know I sound like a cray doom and gloom guy, but I see nothing that tells me I might be wrong.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 9:49 pm

you are not

totally agree

my parents were born at the start of WWII, they grew up and had their children in the area of 1960

My dad served in Korea, I served but no wars thankfully. my sons could have served in the middle east if they had chosen to enlist

Snafu
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 10:11 pm

Amen, brother. Water wars are a comin’.

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:39 pm

very true.
we kinda remember a more stable time (not really, it just took longer for everyone to find out how fucked they were 😃z

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:43 pm

you have to want it

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:52 pm

trust the plan

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:55 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 8:53 pm

Del rio got in some trouble armed in a pickup cruising arrowhead

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 8:20 pm

What if China invades Taiwan?

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 8:21 pm

Nuke the bastards

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 8:23 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 8:54 pm

seems it might be over before it is even known to the west

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 9:01 pm
pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 9:12 pm
pompano
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:14 pm
Leaf
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 9:27 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:40 pm

ha that is the way to go

sign me up for the Kremlin

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:43 pm
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:36 pm

I am wondering

if the Chiefs have a large number of WR’s that are not going to do special teams

we keep more DB’s for those jobs?

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:40 pm

The bane of our defense for these last several years is keeping players that could only play ST. How the hell did we have linebackers on the team that could not beat out Ben Niemann?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:42 pm

you say that but we have been to 4 straight AFC championships with that motly crue D !!!!

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:44 pm

AND a pass rush that, even with an air hose, could not put pressure in a tire.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:46 pm

Veach has done wonders putting a salary cap era team together

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:49 pm

This streak will be nearly impossible to even approach. Running into the likes of Tim Tebow, Brock Osweiler and Marcus Mariota in certain Round 2 games helped extend the streak, but the Bill Belichick-Tom Brady Patriots became the most reliable team in NFL history. No one else has made six straight conference title game appearances.

we have 2/3’s there

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:51 pm

For most of the run, the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins made the Broncos, Raiders, and Chargers look like Murderer’s Row.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 9:15 pm

The best source of ST players is the 3-4 system, which provides a primo set of bodies in backup LBs. The switch mandated another switch, to include more DBs to make up the difference. Safeties aren’t quite as good, but TEs can’t really expand to fill the gap.

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:29 pm

is juneteenth as a national holiday new? I have it off, which is awesome, but it is not even on my free bank calender….

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:38 pm

Haha…..

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:40 pm

It’s only National if you are woke

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 7:43 pm

well I don’t have to wake up early that day

so all good and I get paid too

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:46 pm

I get to sleep in that day as well…. But I have that day off normally

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 8:23 pm

well it does commemorate the day black Texans were awakened to the fact they were no longer slaves, 2 years after the proclamation…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 8:55 pm

Well I guess

like the original

the pony express finally delivered the news to the us

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:41 pm

I’m thinkin’ there’s an Ancestor of Louis DeJoy involved there … ; )

pompano
Reply to  KCChef
06/17/2022 9:48 pm

3rd time

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Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:16 pm

I know what it’s “for”. That’s not my issue with the holiday

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 8:44 pm

I honestly do not understand “woke” as a pejorative. Recognizing societal discrepancies/inequities, whoever is affected should be lauded.
Like other words/phrases, one side perverts the original meaning into a boogeyman, they all do it, it’s a distraction to avoid discussion

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:15 pm

Recognizing is one thing, having an a agenda shoved down your throat is another

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:33 pm

what exactly is being “shoved down your throat”?
😃

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:41 pm

If you can’t see that everywhere you turn nowadays, it’s “celebrate a minority” I don’t know what to tell you. Sad thing is, I’m not against celebrating outside cultures/beliefs. Personally I believe our diversity is what makes us great and unique. But too much of these “celebrate minorities” holidays/months are more weaponized political cards and not real celebrations

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:44 pm

it’s marketing
we have a “national hot dog day” too

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 9:58 pm

That barely gets mentioned. If it felt like someone just marketing a holiday to make some quick cash, I’d be more okay with it. If roll my eyes at capitalism in full display with it, but that would be it. These minority “days/months” don’t feel like cash grabs to me. They feel like agendas, and to me that sad.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:01 pm

agree

Pomp?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:03 pm
pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:04 pm

nay
IDGAF unless a parade impedes me, fuck those fucking fuckers…

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:02 pm

it’s called societal shift,
the market drives the advertising

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:09 pm

seems to me june teenth is maybe more important than the Fourth of July

enslaved people freed trumps citizens unhappy with their leadership

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:14 pm

True, but Juneteenth doesn’t happen without us rebelling against our papa

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:18 pm

yes

A very long bloody war

not to start nothing but the US already paid in blood and money to free the enslaved peoples

there is no way to make up those injustices, reperations are just stupid, every american is owed that for the shit we all have gone through

I would exempt that town in Oklahoma. greenwood, tulsa

That was genocide

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:23 pm

hmmm…

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:32 pm

You think we still would have had a civil war over slavery if we were still under the crown?

pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 10:36 pm

no.
not a US Civil War in any event

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 10:15 pm

need clarification

pompano
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:20 pm

nm

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 10:12 pm

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don’t think it’s simple social change. But then I’m a crusty cynical old fool that don’t think much in this world these days isn’t some agenda, so what do I really know?

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Leaf
06/17/2022 9:53 pm

I Hate Fathers day

meant I had to do twice the crap

BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 7:13 pm

Anyone who knows Texas Hold ‘Em, knows this man.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/doyle-brunson-poker-legend

zulu trader
zulu trader
06/17/2022 6:51 pm

Andy Reid likes what he’s seen from Chiefs’ new receiver room

The Kansas City Chiefs have wrapped up their mandatory minicamp and will now break for a little over a month before training camp.
Between OTAs and mandatory minicamp, Chiefs HC Andy Reid has a 13-practice sample size of seeing his team in action.

Speaking to reporters on Thursday, Reid gave an update on the progress of some of the new receivers and the team’s most veteran player at the position.

“Yeah, I really liked the way (JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling) worked,” Reid said. “They have a nice connection with Pat (Mahomes) up to this point. I’d be curious to see how it gets when there are live bullets and all that stuff. We’ll see how that rolls but I wouldn’t expect anything much different than what I’ve been seeing. And the other guys too have worked in there. Mecole (Hardman) has upped his game here and done a nice job. Our young kid, Skyy (Moore), he’s mixed in there and he’s been good. I like the mixture that we’ve got going.”

Speaking solely on rookie receiver Skyy Moore, Reid seemed impressed.“You know what, he looks strong,” Reid said of Moore. “You see that in the way he’s built physically, but that transfers. You see those big hands he has, he catches everything. He’s a good route runner. Smart kid, seemed to pick it up well.”

CHIEFSWIREcom –

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EAFOX
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:05 pm

If Mecole Hardman has upped his game, doesn’t that make his drops that much more dangerous?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:06 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:07 pm

better question

IF Hardman does up his game would we re-sign him? Could we?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:09 pm

contract year is undefeated

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:09 pm

says if we cut him it would cost 400K and save 4 million on this years cap

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:12 pm

I hate to say this (and never ever quote me on this) but Hardman is the most consistent receiver we have on the roster behind JuJu and MVS. Moore, Gordon, and the rest are solely thoughts on paper right now. Love him or not – he is our best starting number three receiver right now.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:14 pm

the truth shall set you free

EAFOX
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:15 pm

I was going to say that the only way that Hardman could up his game is to become a licensed pilot.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:18 pm

an astronaut

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:24 pm

The inevitable drop from orbit?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:19 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:14 pm

your secret is safe with me

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:15 pm

Yeah, we don’t do that

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 7:17 pm

4 million seems like a lot of money to get someone else

sadly it is chump change for a difference maker

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:23 pm

Yeah, I don’t think you’re going to get an FA that’s better than Hardman for a paltry 4 million.

Seems to me the talk of him not belonging on this roster’s more a matter of emotion and rationalization, but that’s just me. I’m sure there are those going there who believe they have a factual case, not that I’ve ever seen it.

EAFOX
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 7:29 pm

At this point of the year, it would be ludicrous to let him go with nothing but unproven players behind him. Now, as the season progresses, if Hardman is losing serious reps to Moore and a weed named Gordon, then cutting him would be no big deal but I am assuming that the money would not impact the salary cap by then.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:31 pm

would be an awesome deep WR group

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:31 pm

I hope Ross makes an impact

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:36 pm

Best case scenario for next year – Ross becomes a valid number two receiver, combined with MVS. Moore is a legit number three and Gordon proves that he can still ball as a backup to one and two.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:36 pm

I also hope our rooks progress fast, and the vets we landed can up their games in Reid’s system.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:35 pm

If he fails to earn a big contract and leaves for greener pastures, good for him.

Although at this point, I’d also be happy to see him leave, just to put a stop to the years of complaining about him and outright mocking of him. But then, if that happens, there’ll be another targets soon enough. Some people can’t seem to be happy as fans unless they have a player on the team that they can resent. Dan’s gone, so I expect at least one replacement in that category.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 7:37 pm

Clyde Edwards is still here

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:38 pm

Well played sir.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:40 pm

thank you !

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 10:50 pm

*Tips my hat*

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:09 pm

I would say no unless the price is a low one. We will be in a search for a number two receiver again next year and cannot waste our money on a number three.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:11 pm

true

unless we found a gem this year

EAFOX
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:13 pm

That would change the outlook should one of the young receivers become a star receiver by years end.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
06/17/2022 7:20 pm

seriously, do we not expect Mahomes as the greatest QB ever to make WR’s and TE’s better?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 8:37 pm

Albert Wilson says yes

NovaChiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:10 pm

Honestly, he really has to up the game to get me to worry about losing him.
And I don’t have anything against him, but wouldn’t cry as of now

Leaf
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 7:24 pm

I wouldn’t. I’d wish him well and move on to the next guy. Someone is going to waaay over pay him.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 6:46 pm

I saw this today

China on Friday launched its third and most advanced aircraft carrier from Shanghai’s Jiangnan Shipyard, with new combat systems that experts say are fast catching up with the United States.
Named “Fujian,” the ship is China’s first domestically designed and built catapult aircraft carrier, state-run news agency Xinhua reported.
Its electromagnetic catapult-assisted launch system is a major upgrade from the less advanced ski jump-style system used on the Liaoning and the Shandong, its two predecessors, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a Washington-based think tank.
The new system, similar to the ones used by US aircraft carriers, will allow China to launch a wider variety of aircraft from the Fujian faster and with more ammunition.

https://us.cnn.com/2022/06/17/china/china-new-aircraft-carrier-fujian-launch-intl-hnk/index.html

So they have one 🙂

we have 11

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 6:57 pm

MADE IN CHINA

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  MasterChief
06/17/2022 6:59 pm

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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:03 pm

according to the article it is steam powered? would need refueling a lot to get close to the US…..

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 8:28 pm

steam is the mechanical force, coal, oil, gas or nuke fired is the difference

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/17/2022 8:59 pm

it is not a nuke

which to me seems like the entire Chinese navy is probably not nuclear powered

Does China have any nuclear powered ships?
Since the Chinese have no experience with nuclear-powered ships, they may not be ready for such a commitment. But keeping up with the U.S. Navy is a strategic concern.Apr 6, 2022

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:01 pm

China can definitely shape their regional area as they wish

can they invade Japan or Australia, no
Taiwan, South Korea oh hell yes

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:06 pm

remember when it said “Made in Taiwan” on the tad in the ’70s?

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
06/17/2022 9:04 pm

the have some I’m sure. Attack subs (not many) carrier (1 I think)
Surface fleet mostly diesel I imagine

zulu trader
zulu trader
06/17/2022 5:59 pm
Leaf
06/17/2022 5:59 pm

Wasn’t Arrowhead one of the locations during the ‘94 cup?

BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 5:58 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 5:58 pm
zulu trader
zulu trader
06/17/2022 5:39 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 5:57 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:16 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/17/2022 7:17 pm
Nasrani
Nasrani
06/17/2022 5:38 pm

Two friends are at a bar talking. One of them, a teacher, tells the other that there isn’t anything quite like teaching.
“It’s great,” he says. “And it’s true what they say: you get all kinds of students. Take my science class, for instance. I have a couple kids in there who aren’t the sharpest hunks of cheddar in the fridge.”
“How do you mean?” asks the second.
“Well, I heard two of them talking. The first said he wanted to be the first astronaut to land on the sun. ‘You can’t land on the sun, idiot. It’s too hot,’ said the second, but the first student was undeterred: ‘I’ll land on it at night.'”

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Nasrani
06/17/2022 5:48 pm

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zulu trader
zulu trader
06/17/2022 5:36 pm
gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
06/17/2022 5:35 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY – BOBBY!!!

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NovaChiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/17/2022 6:38 pm

I’ll bet he could still play

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/17/2022 6:49 pm

met Mr Bell once. What a tree trunk of a man

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 6:55 pm

I played High school ball with his son, best player on our team certainly, he went pro with the Jets for a small amount of time

rip58
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:02 pm

Met him in airport a few years ago flying home from a game . Not so big anymore, but what a nice man . Enjoyed our visit, he had his super bowl ring on .

NovaChiefs
Reply to  zulu trader
06/17/2022 7:17 pm

Same. He was probably 60, then. Looked like he was in playing shape then

zulu trader
zulu trader
06/17/2022 5:35 pm
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