Friday Night Open Thread: Colts Will Be Without Darius Leondard, Butker and Danna Out For Chiefs

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On the other hand, the Colts are getting their top receivers back.

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pompano
09/23/2022 11:12 pm

all this brouhaha has left me quite fatiguood (sic)

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 11:19 pm

Sic, indeed, but as a portmanteau of tired in a good way, it’s excellent.

pompano
09/23/2022 10:23 pm
zulu trader
zulu trader
09/23/2022 9:42 pm

BRaG you are the character of this fine site!

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
09/23/2022 9:44 pm

Huzzah!

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
09/23/2022 9:52 pm

there is a varied cast of characters, present company included,
BRaG is the rock we have been tethered to ,,, like it or not ?

Last edited 2 months ago by pompano
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 9:59 pm

Like it or not, in both directions. Since I became the editor* here, I committed, and this is the result. It’s as if the nuclear apocalypse(tm) hit, and all that would be left would be termites, Twinkies, and daily Afternight posts on a computer connected to nothing.

*Note that I didn’t say Editor, as I mainly do that as self-parody, and occasionally, when I’m finally forced to. It’s the paperboy in me, quite literally.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:05 pm

Twinkies are overrated, yeah I said it…

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:16 pm

I shan’t wax poetic presently, but many may be unaware how close this thing was to being a thing no more…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:34 pm

If that’s not a reference of me, then I’m one of the many. If it is, however, I’m still one of the many, since I’ve weathered several crises since signing on here. For me, it’s a sign that points to nowhere.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:49 pm

it points to here, for now at least.
that’s worth something?

pompano
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:50 pm

otherwise, why bother

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 11:02 pm

I’d like to bother, because I just don’t understand your comment. I’m far enough in the dark to not be able to estimate its rightness or wrongness. I’d like to understand enough to undertake that bother, if you follow me. I’m lacking anything to anchor any frame of reference to.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 11:06 pm

tao
here is now
now is here
nothing to bother
i’m a very little stoned

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 11:17 pm

Tao is compatible with ju, as both basically mean ‘go with’. If you haven’t read it, I highly (and not high enough, IYGMD) recommend The Tao of Pooh. In fact, the VA guy leading my Tues group/psych/class/workshop said he had a copy, when I mentioned it.

pompano
Reply to  zulu trader
09/23/2022 9:59 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:02 pm
pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:08 pm

Underrated/forgotten

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:20 pm

And this is also a look into me.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:35 pm

i don’t need a visual reference.
just in case…

pompano
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:40 pm

the Ven diagram of “mad as hell” could be interesting

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:43 pm

Both “mad” and “in hell”? Drag up a rock, and I’ll ‘splain it to ya, but it’s a long tale to tell.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:42 pm

Classic. Also, be glad that you cannot “see” my experience. I wouldn’t wish this shit on even Jack the Ripper, or Hitler, or take your pick. But as La Legion Estranger’s unofficial motto goes, it’s march or die. So plod on, I must.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:46 pm

don’t want to press, but hope the last round was helpful, if stressful

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 11:11 pm

Helpful? Not exactly, though it proved to myself that I could vigorously defend my POV, and yet bow out without disgrace, because the psych stuff was building up. Knowing it’s OK to disengage is as important as knowing when it’s time to disengage.

This is where AG is my strongest ally, because I know that you know (etc.) that I don’t back down unless I’m proven wrong. Y’all know I’m no coward, having to resort to dirty tricks in place of an actual position. Hell, I may be the most predictable person in any position here, which is even stranger, given that folks find my views quite strange, quite often. To wax poetic, ahem.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  zulu trader
09/23/2022 11:22 pm

I yam what I yam and that’s all what I yam.

Also, I meant what I said, and said what I meant, this editor’s faithful, 100%. That right there’s enough to make me a character.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
09/23/2022 8:58 pm

I kid you not, we must be the biggest bunch of misfits on the interwebs.

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pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/23/2022 9:06 pm

what we lack en masse, we make up in volume…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 9:09 pm

That which has not killed us has only served to make us…stranger. I’m a shining example of that.

PS: I completely pulled back because of me. My concern was that you understood that, and typical me, I botched it because I rushed it.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 9:18 pm

you need not explain to me,,as you said, we’ve known each other for a while.
warts and all ?

Last edited 2 months ago by pompano
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 9:36 pm

That’s true, but we’re good enough friends that I want to keep you up to date. My reactions aren’t always predictable, and since I don’t like to be left wondering…

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 9:41 pm

predictability?
humbug says i

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:01 pm

Reality is for those who wouldn’t welcome a polite greeting from a pink elephant. An unimaginative bunch, to be sure.

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:07 pm

I’ll give you such a pinch!

rip58
09/23/2022 8:15 pm

Peace… daughter and I have a dove hunt to attend to in the morning.. who knows this maybe the day she actually hits something, but she keeps going with me, got to give her credit…

pompano
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 8:22 pm

*birds aren’t real.
happy fowling

river
river
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 9:37 pm

Dove hurts are fun, have a good time

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  river
09/23/2022 9:40 pm

Snipe hunts can be even funner.

pompano
09/23/2022 7:47 pm

all i need is a friend

*not the whole show

BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 7:32 pm

Well, the PFF nonsense got me more worked up than I expected, but here’s the funny thing, it’s not them dissing Mahomes that has me fired up. No, I was just putting a full blast at them for their dishonesty, pretending that their opinions are statistically valid. That sort of shit offends me, as anyone who remembers me ranting and raving about another opinion system, QBR, will realize. Only a two-tweet chain, this time (I’ve said a thing or two previously), and I hope I managed to pack enough contempt in that 450 words, or so.

Protip: If you don’t get to see how their math works, it’s not statistically valid. It’s just another boondoggle. Those who claim otherwise have things to hide, few if any of them good.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 7:54 pm

I think PFF is changing from NFL stats nerds to a pure business model…..

https://sites.google.com/site/ericeageranalytics/home/sports-analytics

this guy is interesting and I don’t think he is still with pff anymore

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 7:57 pm
pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 8:08 pm

if they could prove it was internally consistent, maybe?
?

rip58
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 8:11 pm

I do love a good boondoggle….

pompano
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 8:19 pm

whilst nice, i prefer a folderol…

pompano
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 8:20 pm

which reminds me…
poppycock

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 8:23 pm

Balderdash!

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 8:26 pm

Oh, fiddlesticks…

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 8:38 pm

I’m flabbergasted this is still going on

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Leaf
09/23/2022 8:39 pm

This whole kerfuffle, you mean?

pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 8:47 pm

i’m flummoxed…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 8:55 pm

Wherefore, prithee?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 8:57 pm

Are you sure you’re not actually Gobsmacked?

pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
09/23/2022 9:08 pm

Gadzooks!

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 9:12 pm

Great Scott!

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 8:27 pm

shannigans

pompano
Reply to  WaywerdSon
09/23/2022 8:29 pm

“twas just a piffle…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:24 pm

So we have 6 teams still undefeated

Bills @ Dolphins (both undefeated)
Chiefs @ Colts (Chiefs)
Eagles @ Commanders (Eagles)
Packers @ Buccaneers (Buccaneers)
Texans @ Bears (Bears)

How many teams are still undefeated by next Tuesday?

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:37 pm

My best guess is four. One is inevitable, but it’s hard to pick against any of the remaining teams, but given the NFL, it’s likely that at least one more team will fall. Others, maybe, but it’s hard to see that happening.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 7:39 pm

I really don’t see how the Buccaneers win except if Rodgers decides to throw pick sixes

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:41 pm

very like the Colts, the Buccaneers Offense is almost non existant so far this season

Colts 20 points
Buccs 39

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 8:33 pm

You make a good case, but that essentially makes it an over/under set at 2.5, because narrowing the field changes the ratios.

And while there’s very little wrong with that (only 1 is a glaring problem for us), I favor the under, at two. Think about it, if we’ve IDed two, there are only 3 more games, and the result of one is predetermined. That pares it down to only two games, and I wouldn’t go more than 50-50 on one of them. I could probably go full PFF, and pretend at more precision than that, but really, I think the odds are slimmer than that, thus me taking the under. Now, if there were a compound bet available, that if there is only one added in, I might could be interested. Probably wouldn’t structure well, like trifectas, and such.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/23/2022 10:11 pm

haha Damn Logic

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 10:18 pm

$
house rules is the house wins, the % varies

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 10:36 pm

I didn’t twist your arm and force you to read it, you know. You brought that on yourself, for some strange reason.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:16 pm

Aaron Rodgers course corrected nicely in Week 2, very similarly to last season, something he noted after the game. Tom Brady is going to be missing virtually his entire receiving corps. This total — 42 — is outrageously low for a Rodgers/Brady matchup, but the under is probably a pretty decent look. I lean to the Packers as well, particularly with Akiem Hicks out of the lineup, as they’ll be able to run more effectively than most opponents against the Bucs. 



steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:12 pm

Bills rule out Micah Hyde, Jordan Phillips, Ed Oliver, Dane Jackson for AFC East showdown vs. DolphinsFour important players will miss the matchup between 2-0 teams

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:17 pm

As of Monday, the Chargers were a 7-point home favorite against Jacksonville at Caesars Sportsbook. That held through Thursday, but started to swing dramatically on Friday afternoon, likely reacting to Herbert not practicing. The line fell to Chargers -6 at 2:26 p.m. ET and in the span of about a half-hour the line sunk to Chargers -3 and currently stands at that mark. 
Translation: the oddsmakers think Herbert is going to be held out. 

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:25 pm

they just want the money to move to protect the margin

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:28 pm

Keenan Allen is also questionable

so it was said that even if Allen is available Chase Daniel is no Herbert 🙂

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:30 pm

well, yeah

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:32 pm

Work fed me lunch today

Carraba’s Italian

My brain is not functioning, since my stomach is busy

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:38 pm

Carrabas is good.
What you get for the $ is less than it was 3-4 yrs ago, but so is everything, it seems.
*prior current inflation

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:41 pm

Or ……. Vegas is just moving the line around to win more money…
Them bastards..

rip58
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 6:45 pm

Hopefully he is out. That would make me so so happy…. I was hoping he would miss the whole season….

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 6:47 pm

I am willing to use any advantage to win the AFC

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:57 pm

Yes sir , what ever it takes…..
And I promise I’m booking tickets this weekend… only a few more weeks..

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 6:59 pm

Daisy is practicing here voyerism on the neighbors

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:03 pm

Haha…. Good for her.. I would trust her instincts

pompano
09/23/2022 6:12 pm

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:15 pm

not stealing

liberating a snack

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:22 pm

a russian bear?

Snafu
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:24 pm

conscripted snack

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Snafu
09/23/2022 6:26 pm

Well I know how that ended

pompano
Reply to  Snafu
09/23/2022 6:28 pm

I read that as constipated snack upon first glance…

Snafu
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:29 pm

people food will do that.

pompano
Reply to  Snafu
09/23/2022 6:32 pm

wilderness survival tip: if a bear eats it, so can you (grubs etc)
just wait until it’s done.

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:35 pm

Bears eat people…..

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 6:39 pm

as needs must….again, wait til it’s done

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:46 pm

unless you are dinner?

Snafu
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:47 pm

Say, you gonna finish that thigh?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  Snafu
09/23/2022 6:48 pm

asks Jeffrey Dahmer

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:00 pm

Second day of watching that, actually watching right now.. WTF … that dude was fucking nuts…

Last edited 2 months ago by rip58
steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 7:01 pm

KC had one of them too

Bob Berdella

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:05 pm

Just googled… what’s wrong with people.

pompano
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 7:08 pm

many and various things…

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 7:08 pm

wierd how a bear stealing snacks ended up on serial killers

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:14 pm

i do what i can

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 7:18 pm

we should do caption this 🙂

rip58
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:26 pm

I like it… I shall start using it tomorrow if I remember..?

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 7:28 pm

tie some string around your finger

pompano
Reply to  steve_chiefs
09/23/2022 7:16 pm

it’s my favorite thing about OTs

steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 7:18 pm

like a game of telephone

pompano
Reply to  Snafu
09/23/2022 6:49 pm
paulkcc
paulkcc
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 10:44 pm
pompano
Reply to  paulkcc
09/23/2022 10:55 pm

a blast from the past..
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steve_chiefs
steve_chiefs
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:30 pm

Peanuts?

Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 6:25 pm

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gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:40 pm

This weekend, original Avatar (2009) movie is back in theaters in 3D.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:40 pm

Just in time, for AVATAR 2 release 12/16/22.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 9:06 pm

I know I’m in the small minority, but I didn’t like Dances With Smurfs, either, and for the same reason; the Noble Savage trope. History studies have been rife with that nonsense for generations, pro & casual alike.

Y’all know how I get about history fields, and I say that trope is tripe. The “savages” of the past were humans, with human virtues, but also human failings. It wasn’t peaceful all the way, there were wars and feuds, jealousy, murder, and so on. Tribes and nations even looked down upon some others – and that’s OK, because that’s all normal human behavior. What is not normal behavior is people who are complete paragons, who reaped the benefits of that to an idyllic existence. I’m not trying to convince anyone to hate either movie, I’m an outlier, this is just my own reasoning, and a warning about actual history takes that sell themselves that way.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:32 pm
gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:33 pm

Patrick pregame speech (Chargers)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/18Sumjg_WQo

Nasrani
09/23/2022 5:31 pm

I works hard every day, come rain or shine

Fantastic bass on this version, live from the Isle of Wight in 1970. The bassist and guitarist seamlessly trade roles halfway through the instrumental break, with Koss laying down the rhythm during the second half while Andy Fraser has a chance to show some four-string sorcery on the bass.

Last edited 2 months ago by Nasrani
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
09/23/2022 5:44 pm

will listen later (think the full set is on the tube).

Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
09/23/2022 5:46 pm

It should be. Free Live at the Isle of Wight is absolute fire, capturing them at their prime. While it’s not Free at the Sunderland Locarno (the greatest live recording ever produced), it’s absolutely incredible, even if the sound is a bit muddy in places.

[EDIT]: Look what I found. Also worth a nod is “Crossroads” – the show closer.

Last edited 2 months ago by Nasrani
gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:31 pm

DO YOU HEAR IT??  LISTEN!!!!  All the media talking heads, crafting up EXCUSES on WHY bills lost to DOLPHINS

Buffalo Bills rule out CB Dane Jackson, safety Micah Hyde, DTs Jordan Phillips, Ed Oliver vs. Miami Dolphins

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:31 pm

cute (cough cough) – man card REVOKED hhahaaaa

rip58
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:37 pm

I wonder if she was that big when they married? And I would have said I’m not wearing that to a chiefs game , around the house fine, but no where else…
How are you supposed to pick up babes?

river
river
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 6:19 pm

Lol, got it. Good one Rip

Last edited 2 months ago by river
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  rip58
09/23/2022 9:31 pm

I know you (and I presume Gonzo) are going for humor, but hen I decided I wanted to stay with her, Mrs BRAG wasn’t exactly eye candy. The years haven’t been kind to her, but she’s still the same person I’ve always wanted to be with. We also swap puns and other groaners, so she’d appreciate those jerseys, too.

If that’s a man card violation, I won’t turn it in, I’ll burn it.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/23/2022 5:30 pm

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