BREAKING NEWS: Lucas Niang Opts Out of 2020

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We thought the only two opt-outs the Chiefs would have were LDT and Damien Williams, but there seems to be one more at the deadline. Lucas Niang, rookie tackle from TCU, has decided to opt-out of the season. Niang, who came in with health issues to his hip, decided to take the year to get healthy, and keep his family safe. I wish him nothing but health.

Niang was already a candidate for a redshirt season, because of the hip injury. He supposedly was going to try and work inside, but to me, this signals that Kansas City maybe didn’t want him there in the first place. They may just move forward with Niang at tackle in 2021. If he wasn’t going to play this year, this actually may help the Chiefs. If Niang opts out, his contract gets moved forward for a season, meaning his rookie deal may not start until next year. Now, if Niang is considered high-risk, then an accrued season does happen, so I’ll need to monitor that. If he doesn’t get deemed high-risk, the Chiefs could get four seasons of Niang starting at tackle on a rookie deal.

Let’s all wish Niang gets healthy, and stays safe.

What are your thoughts on this move??

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slackator
slackator
08/06/2020 3:03 pm

I understand it but If the plans are for him to complete for a starting tackle spot in 2021 I wish he could have stuck around and gotten some coaching so the Chiefs have a better idea of where hes at next year. Now he goes from potentially replacing Fisher to possibly competing with him and what the means for Fishers contract

upamtn
Reply to  slackator
08/06/2020 4:05 pm

I have no doubt he’s had and will continue to have “coaching” as well as plenty of tapes to look at, and time to get healthier / stronger AND work on this-or-that move or technique … the Chiefs will know where’s he’s at, how he’s doing, his progress, etc … relax

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  slackator
08/06/2020 4:24 pm

I think it’s probably easier to feel ok about Niang’s decision if you don’t already have in mind the idea that Fisher needs to be replaced.

😉

upamtn
08/06/2020 2:14 pm

look on the BRIGHT side, y’all … we still have Our Savior comment image

BleedingRedAndGold
08/06/2020 2:14 pm

I’ve cued this up at the beginning of the sole Chiefs news piece. Mahomes is mentioned in the later round table, but the ladies there were considering the young Black QBs breaking the old stereotype that in the past would have barred them from playing the position. Nothing that’s going to sway opinions much in either direction, so it’s optional after CEH. Which provides a nice segue to say that he’s quite comfortable with the safeguards the Chiefs are employing after giving his mother, a medical professional, a rundown of everything being done. Doesn’t prove much of anything, but it’s a hopeful bit of information that there will be a season.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
08/06/2020 1:22 pm

unless he is in a high risk category, this is a dumb move. He was a developmental project who now loses a year of development. He was my least favorite pick in the draft class and now this reaffirms it. Again, if it turns out he is high risk, then I take it back. But it’s a dumb move IMO

Leaf
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
08/06/2020 1:50 pm

I don’t know. If his injury was going to slow him down that much, it might be the best move to bow out now with no risk of infection

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BleedingRedAndGold
08/06/2020 11:42 am

Seems a good place for this:

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
08/06/2020 12:05 pm

I think of it as, which story would you rather be able to tell when you’re old? Would you rather tell the grandkids about that time you worked in a hospital during a pandemic, or that time you won a Superbowl during a pandemic?

Larry’s unbelievably lucky to have that choice to make.

larch
larch
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 12:20 pm

Two very different sets of circumstances: Lucas’ health issues seem to make this decision more of a football career choice whereas Larry put himself in a position where he needed to assess his priorities. I have every expectation Lucas will be back next summer competing for a roster spot, I have a suspicion that Larry’s NFL career is done (but I wouldn’t put it past him to be back in training camp next year).

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  larch
08/06/2020 12:24 pm

Yeah, personally I think they both made the right choice. Niang’s actually seems pretty obvious in retrospect, what with the long-nagging injury he had in college and no chance to crack the starting line-up at OT this season.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 1:27 pm

Beat me to it. Hip injuries can be nasty, remember Priest’s? Sure, med tech has come a long ways since then, but I think it’s a smart move on Niang’s part to take a rehab year right now.

While it’s not a problem around here, I hope football fans in general are realizing that trying to call out players who opt out is selfish and rude. Ain’t no way of knowing everything that went into the decision, f’rex Damien Williams.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
08/06/2020 2:49 pm

Damien also told us what went into his decision, eventually. And I’m sure that pretty much everybody who initially misjudged, changed their minds accordingly when they got more info.

You’re not going to stop humans from trying to make sense of what they see in front of them, no matter how partial their picture of that something might be. Not unless you manage to turn all humans into robots.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 4:36 pm

Oh, undoubtedly, but I’m thinking of those who’ve already decided he’s nothing but a bust when all they’re going on during a season where he was being forced to play out of his position and weight class, and now that opinion’s ossified in place. Almost impossible to change your mind once that’s happened.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
08/06/2020 4:47 pm

I think you’ve mixed up two different places where you tried to tell humans to stop thinking. 😀

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BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 5:20 pm

You are correct, but I fear you have gotten one thing backwards, because if your opinion will not change regardless of the evidence, you are the one who has stopped thinking. I did say “ossified”, after all. Generic “you”, of course.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
08/07/2020 12:13 pm

Good point. I totally agree there’s puh-lenty of people who are just too lazy to think up more than one opinion about anything. Hell, there’s lots of folks who’re too lazy to even think up one opinion on their own, they just take certain other people’s opinion as gospel instead.

However, that’s all about changing an opinion. You seemed to be trying to say people shouldn’t form any opinion in the first place, and that’s…well, pretty far beyond realistic.

upamtn
Reply to  Berserker
08/07/2020 1:16 pm

there’s lots of folks who’re too lazy to even think up one opinion on their own, they just take certain other people’s opinion as gospel

exactly! like all the silly fans who thought for the longest time that one of our best in the Secondary was terrible, when in fact he not only wasn’t “bad” he’s now become a LEGEND!
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Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  upamtn
08/07/2020 1:49 pm

I swear, I’m gonna sic the white privilege crowd on him.

upamtn
Reply to  Berserker
08/07/2020 3:30 pm

loveya, Brother!

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 9:37 am

I may have missed something but the way I understood the opt-out is can you get 350000 this year and a year accrued if you are high-risk. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that you still have your contract move down the road. You get a year accrued but you still have this year of your contract and the rest of your contract so if you have four years left on your contract now there will still be four years left when you are done with this year

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MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Nate Christensen
08/06/2020 12:58 pm

No is the correct answer

NM_ChiefsFan
NM_ChiefsFan
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 10:24 am

Doesn’t an accrued season have more to do with the NFL retirement plan? If you have a 4-yr deal and get credit for an accrued season, you would still have 4 years on your deal but have a total of 5 years service when it is over?

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  NM_ChiefsFan
08/06/2020 11:44 am

Also affects when teams can no longer put a RFA tag/tender on a player, and whether they have to sit on the waiver wire if cut.
edit: And the vet minimum pay. And probably some other stuff I forgot. Anyhow, point is accrued seasons are important for lots of reasons.

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MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  NM_ChiefsFan
08/06/2020 12:54 pm

I’m pretty sure that is correct

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saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 1:14 pm

if he isn’t a high risk opt out then he gets 150 k loan essentially that he will have to pay back to the team

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
08/06/2020 2:52 pm

At zero interest!

QuackTastic
QuackTastic
08/06/2020 9:25 am

damn. Hopefully he can read up on the playbook and study film in the meantime. We have no depth at LG now. This Osemele better pan out. Isn’t Rankin on PUP? Is Cam Erving available?

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MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Nate Christensen
08/06/2020 9:35 am

Rankin, remmers, osemele

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 11:48 am

Allegretti?

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 12:57 pm

Yup

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 2:53 pm

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Tony Sommer
08/06/2020 9:06 am

This is an interesting one, it could end up benefiting the Chiefs. Niang was always going to be a project, so this gives him a year to recover and work on his game and extends his rookie contract for a year if he develops.

I wonder how much coaching he can get while opting out.

Tony Sommer
Reply to  Nate Christensen
08/06/2020 9:15 am

But are coaches allowed to talk to him at all? Or can the team hire a private coach to work with him?

QuackTastic
QuackTastic
Reply to  Nate Christensen
08/06/2020 9:24 am

I would think if we’re not paying him we can’t be coaching him

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  QuackTastic
08/06/2020 9:35 am

We are paying him 150k

QuackTastic
QuackTastic
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
08/06/2020 9:38 am

Dang. I want that setup.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  QuackTastic
08/06/2020 11:50 am

That comes out of his next year’s pay, if I understand it correctly. But I’ve only seen sketches of info about this opt out business, so not sure.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Berserker
08/06/2020 12:57 pm

Guess that’s true

Tony Sommer
Reply to  Nate Christensen
08/06/2020 10:24 am

My thought is that he may not have the money for private coaching without the Chiefs paying for it.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Tony Sommer
08/06/2020 11:54 am

Looks like his rookie guarantee is $847k, and he got at least some of that in a signing bonus already.

But anyway, paying for private coaching is what agents and loans are for.

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