Wednesday Night O/T: Roethlisberger Says Steelers Don’t Have a Chance Against Chiefs
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Ben Roethlisberger on the Chiefs:
“We don't have a chance, so let's just go in and play and have fun." #Steelers #NFL pic.twitter.com/j7t4HZnmSs
— Steelers Depot 7⃣ (@Steelersdepot) January 12, 2022
He’s obviously being sarcastic, but the Chiefs actually are one of the biggest playoff favorites in recent memory.
the filibuster and the electoral college are both antiquated compromises, only one is constitutional
Pushing elections to becoming even more a matter of statistics over substance is a great way of further sapping the meaning from the republic’s citizens. I don’t feel more free from being nothing more than a statistic, but perhaps others feel differently. As it stands, the “choice” when it comes to candidates is largely an illusion. Nobody believes me, but from what I know about history, that trend began when both Partys switched from nomination by delegates to direct democracy.
As for the filibuster, Blackstone’s Fence. Yes, it looks antiquated, but your eagerness to get rid of it calls into question your understanding of why it was put there. Traditional institutions can be abused, it’s true, and I can provide a historical laundry list of incidents (Hint: “You can’t yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater” comes from an anti-liberty SCOTUS decision so awful that the CJ had to subsequently reverse his decision), but that doesn’t mean the solution is doing away with them is a good idea.
As the fallacious syllogism goes:
Something must be done
This is something
This must be done
And yet, when the opposite party is power, then both are loved, cherished, and defended.
Either something is good for a country, or it is not. If something is bad when you’re in power and great when you’re not, then the problem is not the thing itself.
Very clever of ol’ Ben. We have no chance. Look at the spread. We’re just going to have fun. We lose, who cares?
Guess where the pressure squarely falls? That’s right. I hope Andy does a good job of getting them to ignore the odds makers, because if they fall behind early the expectation of victory might get REALLY heavy.
elections for federal office should have federal legislation,
let the counties do what they have always done re: local and reporting
I disagree. We are a union of different states. Being a union of different states means we should have statewide elections for federal office.
This is actually a very wise practice. It hinders a potential dictator from gaining public appeal and taking over the country.
Question – Punishment for a rapist
1 – Castration (By knife) + Life Sentence
2 – Death Penalty
3 – Life Sentence
4 – 50 years
5 – 25 years
6 – 10 years
7 – 1 year
8 – Probation
I can live with number one – I believe that is justice.
TX judge just reversed a rape conviction…not a lenient sentence, voided a jury verdict
that’s fucked up
True – Liberal weenie ass judges
mmmm?
TEXAS judge
(I’m pretty sure, like it matters)
So he reversed the conviction. You don’t explain why, only conclude that it was the wrong decision to make, even though you know nothing about the case.
What’s fucked up is how hard DA’s offices fight to maintain convictions that were wrongfully (means illegally, BTW) obtained. You just sounded like them, to me.
fair enough, but that should be ruled on upon appeal imo
Yeah, it makes me wonder if they found evidence now they could not have tracked then, e.g., DNA. For older crimes, nobody could run DNA tests or match it. Now they can. So older cases may be revisited and found, whoops, the accused’s DNA doesn’t match what’s on the crucial piece of evidence from the crime, etc.
forget the comedian
1- superglue their nuts to the floor, set the room on fire, throw them a knife
,,
I like the suggestion.
Where does justice end and vengeance begin?
Flipping that question is part of the social contract (depending on the definitions of each)
Thought provoking reply.
Who do you think I am? Batman?
No, you’re Spartacus!
I AM SPARTICUS!
That’s the question, but the short answer is that if the outcome is arrived at out of fervent emotion, it’s revenge, and nothing but torture.
My 2c, or whatever it’s worth.
some want to make voting more accessible, which comes with minimal issues…
some want to restrict voting, which is the issue…
here in Colorado it’s been way easy and trouble-free for YEARS … everyone gets a ballot in the mail: return it early or return it barely on time, makes no difference … dropboxes all over as it should be, or mail it in with a handy-dandy USPS stamp
fraud? in Colorado??? none that I’ve been aware of … seriously, this state elects Left Wing and Right Wing and Middle Wing and whatever
dozens of investigations/studies over decades have never found widespread (even the former did not release the same finding from his own look).
correct
but look at what happened, like never happened before. more votes than voters?
did that happen? just asking questions….
NO! THAT DID NOT HAPPEN…STOP ASKING
I think those who are accusing the right of trying to “restrict voting” are both right and wrong. Yes, the right wants to restrict voting to living U.S. citizens, and that each citizen only gets one vote. But no, the right does not want to restrict voting to only a certain race or ethnicity.
That’s just part of the philosophy of the age, though. Postmodernism thinks that if you speak of something different, using different terminology, then it becomes different. That you create what is real if you just say something often enough. Ultimately, postmodernity says truth is meaningless and everything is a big power grab. However, let’s try this in practice. I could repeat many times over that S.F. actually won SB LIV and not KC. I could say it so much that I could convince myself of it – and perhaps gain a following. But it doesn’t actually work that way. It doesn’t change what is real (in this case, what really happened in SB LIV). It’s self-deceptive to think otherwise. But that’s how postmodernist philosophy works that much of the world is swimming in right now.
all whom organized/signed/submitted the fraudulent electoral slates must be charged.
election integrity and all…
and jailed and stuff … not to mention pay back for the ridiculous court cases, etc
state and federal
(saw your comment in the Huddle, appreciate you as well)
Not if they weren’t involved in those cases being filed, and only for the ones that an individual is directly related to. Directly linked by legal standards, not social or media standards, which are often little more than connect-the-dots to give shape to an opinion, no rigor required.
Hyperbole’s a thing, I know, but expectations of punishments so severe that they go beyond the legal, let alone the justice, are corrosive to and of our legal system. Bringing fervent passion into a court case is a recipe for horrible case law. Not everyone deserves lifetime punishments.
corrosive to and of our legal system
you’re talking about those who are corrosive to and of our entire government and republic …
I don’t know about you, but I really like the whole “Universal Voting” thing … one person, one vote and all that … not to mention TRUTH as opposed to … well, you know
No, I am not talking about those people you have in mind. I’m specifically talking about expecting punishments that are so severe as to render them unjust – at any level, mind you. I don’t care if it’s a crack dealer whose sentence is 100x worse than a coke dealer or a congresscritter who has committed a severe violation of the law, severe enough to outrage people.
Punish both, but the severity should only go to the limit of justice. To do otherwise is to call for the kind of ridiculous charge-stacking that drove that young man to suicide, when his crime of “hacking” consisted of making available material that was free to read anyway.
I’m not arguing against that, not by any means …
*undercover cops buying drugs many times to reach a weight limit for mandatory sentencing*
Since this isn’t directly related, I’ll tack it on, instead.
There are certain cases that stick in my mind, such as the cop who had to go out to his car to retrieve his pistol, then re-enter the club and kill a man who he already had an ongoing beef with, because he “feared for his life”. That, IIRC, was in JOCO, but the one that applies here was in Lee’s Summit.
The victim in this case was a guy accused and charged with molesting his daughter, which he firmly denied. The typical hate-frenzy ensued, and so he panicked, and fled the country, catching the attention of America’s Most Wanted, which profiled him the way you’d expect.
However, what was alleged wasn’t true. Turned out, the LSPD detective handling the case had been having an affair with the guy’s wife, and momma leaned on daughter to say things had happened. Daughter then recants, just as soon as she can, presumably once she was free of mommy, and the guy wins a mill-plus settlement, paid for by the residents of Lee’s Summit. The cop who framed him, to get him out of the way? He had to leave, but got a job as an officer in another town.
Assuming guilt beyond any legally-recognized relation to an action is as bad as assuming guilt because of the outrageousness of a charge, and both inevitably lead folks to expect their targets to be over-punished.
Final point here. If you think back, I was a voice for moderation when Kraft was accused of participating in a sex slave trafficking ring that never existed. As it happens, the police themselves violated several laws in the course of setting up their made-for-TV bust. I followed the same course with Hill, only faltering over the audio. Once the whole thing came out, I knew he was innocent. I still call people on Twitter out for saying he abused anyone. The reactions are worse than I often get here, but haters gotta hate.
Big Ben trying to give his team bulletin board material?
*sarcam*
hey, Tomlin has NEVER had a losing season … never … EVER!
still, doubt it’s gonna matter … let the Steelers have fun (just don’t let ’em score any points)
As long as they have a losing postseason at 0-1 this year, I’m ok with whatever other record Tomlin has.
Super Wild Card Weekend Ranks, Game Breakdowns
Denny Carter ranks QBs, RBs, TEs … ok,yanno what? we don’t need no Denny Carter (whatever that is!) to tell us who ranks where … Chiefs are WAY better than Steelers and we ALL know that, so there ya go
https://sports.yahoo.com/super-wild-card-weekend-ranks-015034281.html
your announcers for this weekend …
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-super-wild-card-weekend-230129665.html
Collingsworthless ???!!! …Ugh … I’mma Sad … : (
Ronnie Spector, ’60s icon who sang ‘Be My Baby,’ dies at 78
https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-music-arts-and-entertainment-phil-spector-ronnie-spector-84c905db02a01ffa43a6052c3ce66920
RIP, Ronnie, and thanks for everything, especially for standing up to Phil.
oh yeah, almost forgot …
if ANY of ya have a chance to see Hector Anchondo (from Omaha) do so! one of THE bestest ever guitarists you will EVER have the privilege and pleasure of seeing and hearing (good singer as well) … he won the 2020 International Blues Challenge FWIW and with good reason (he really IS just that good)
also, and I can say this honestly, I know the guy personally (he was here in Salida coupla weeks ago) and he’s like one of the most genuinely nicest human being you’ll ever encounter on this planet
thanks
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Daddy … what’s a GEHA?
Governing Embodies Hate and Antipathy?
God Enjoys Halftime at Arrowhead
hello Internet? you have a winner!
the yin to my yang (hee..hee)
oh, I *am* all impressed
The people who help make Patrick Mahomes possible
dayum
time well spent
I can never un-see that, can I?
don’t try to describe it to anyone…
oh, trust me … I’m doing my level best to foget it ever so completely
Watch some of his other shit
https://m.youtube.com/c/uespi1
🤯
i have
😊
interesting … Chiefs are #1 in PFF Rankings, but the #2 Packers have better odds of winning Super Bowl (perhaps having a bye week)
Final 2021 NFL Power Rankings: Kansas City Chiefs reign supreme, San Francisco 49ers breach the top 10
the Steelers, btw, are at … #18
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-nfl-power-rankings
#18? That high?
LOL
KC has scored 8 PPG more and given up 2 PPG less … that translates to a 10-pt edge for KC … add in standard 3-pts for being home team, and you’ve got a point spread of just what Vegas oddsmakers made it
Chiefs by 30 pts
or
Chiefs hang on and win by a thread as the Steelers fall JUUUUUUUST short after a wild 2nd Half Comeback
QB Rankings … Mahomes is 10, Ben is 31 (gotta love it)
oh, the Mahomes EPA rank is 2
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-quarterback-rankings
hahahhahhaha
You must have had BBQ today 🙂
*perk*
BBQ?
nope, I wish … oh my yes I wish
I* fully understand your drooling for real BBQ, because I can’t have any, either. Like you, that’s due to location, in more ways than one. One thing I’d like to know is, do you also live in an apartment where you’re forbidden to set up a smoker? Pisses me off, but the rules are the rules, and they say no BBQ for you.
oh, I could do something in the back on the patio, but it’s a wee bit nippy this time of year … hoping MAYBE in the summer do a lil something
A little something for yoons guys. Let’s see if the Chiefs can fuel another rant.
HA!
It’s so very lonely
You’re a 2,000 light years from home
talk to the bomb…
Last set of four then the Round of 32 is set…
LaDainian Tomlinson v Derrick Thomas
Tony Gonzalez v Mean Joe Greene
Tim Brown v Marcus Allen
AND
Joe Montana v Jim Brown
My vote DT, Mean Joe, Marcus Allen and Joe Montana. That last pick was brutal.
ditto from me
I would concur as well.
all of ’em
DT58, Tony G, Allen, and Montana.
As EA said, it’s tough choices across the board, but to my mind it’s more about difference-makers than dominance. Every player in the bracket was dominant, so to me, it’s who had more impact. That lets out Greene, who was a force to be reckoned with, but not only did TG88 play at a high level for a very long time, he altered how the rest of the NFL used TEs. Greene deserves to move forward, too, he’s just a victim of the matchup.
The weakest result of my premise is Allen over Brown, but while Brown could gash you badly, Allen had a knack for picking up yards you needed, plus was an elite RB. Brown was elite, but wasn’t an inevitable go-to when crucial yardage was needed, the way Hill and Kelce are.