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SNF: Colts Vs Cowboys Open Thread

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A thread to discuss the game

The Colts are just wasting time until the season is over, while the Cowboys are looking to claw their way back into the division race.

Who are you picking to win?

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ForeverRanger91
12/04/2022 9:26 pm

How the heck can I find an authentic Joe Delaney jersey from when he was still alive but not a Reebok Tony Richardson jersey?

NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:04 pm

I don’t know who she is or where she came from, but how tall is she and I love whatever that is that passes for a skirt. Rock the heels, tall girl! I have the sound off, so no idea how her commenting is, but she’s got to be better than the guys she’s with

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:23 pm

I don’t know about that. I remember one game where she was like I don’t know I guess I’ll take the crappier team because everyone else picked the good team.

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:52 pm

Melissa Stark?

BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 8:55 pm

I just had a crazy, or maybe dumb idea. What if, in games like ours today, with two closely-matched teams playing in the 2nd half of the season, the NFL assigned such games to officiating crews for the other conference? Because when a crew’s worked enough games where fans start, saying ‘he dislikes our team’, trust on the officials is lost. With my idea, you get a team that doesn’t have that reputation, because mostly they work in the other conference.

Of course, if they spread teams across both divisions, it’s not as easy, but it shouldn’t be hard to find one with less exposure to both teams. Or maybe it’s the Bert’s talking.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:05 pm

Do they do one conference or the other? I didn’t think they did that.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:13 pm

There are crews we see regularly enough to get a rep, and there are crews we don’t see much of. As I said, if the conference assignments cross over, you can still total up the times each crew has worked on both team’s games, and pick one with low exposure. An app-level piece of code could crunch those numbers with ease.

I’ve ranted about refs as much as anyone, but the NFL could do more to protect their credibility. Listening to the replay official, like the AFL did, keeps the booth bozos from speculating and second-guessing, leading to times when they’re all saying WTF, and the fans believe them rather than the official. Undermining your own product for entertainment’s sake is stupid.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:35 pm

Disagree with the last bit.
Company shills are worse. If they make a questionable call, you think fans are going to say “Well Tony agrees, so it must be right”? Fully half of the people watching think they are biased, anyway.
I can only listen to Mitch because I root for the Chiefs. If I was a fan of the opposing team, he would absolutely suck. So slanted. But…he’s paid by the Chiefs.
Thankfully, the announcers are not paid directly by the NFL

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:56 pm

It’s not that they agree with Jim and Tony, it’s that their speculation encourages fans to do the same, and think their own opinions are just as valid. If they listen to the process as it happens, they find out why a review produced the outcome. It’s hard to scream ‘bias!’ when you listen to how the decision was made, and hear how it’s all technical application of the relevant rules.

Hell, some folks would even learn something about how replay rules are applied, given time and experience. Some would even geek out over it, but the replay official isn’t a shill, the broadcast teams are, and corporate shills, at that. But if you aren’t aware of how the decision was made, you can imagine things like bias that may or may not exist – and “know” for a certainty that bias and unfairness were part of it. Got a better idea to help restore some trust in the refs, without demanding that they just do better?

Still not letting the NFL off the hook on this, because they’re the only ones who can change it.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 10:54 pm

You’re arguing a point neither one of us made.
You said the NFL undermined its own product by letting announcers question calls. I said that’s wrong.
They DO explain. It rarely makes the result any better. They bring in the replay guy to better explain the rules. Often, the replay guy, the one who isn’t a “shill”, doesn’t agree with the call either. So now what? Now you have announcers who question the call, a replay guy who questions the call, and fans who question the call, but it stands because no one in NY will step in and say “we don’t know about that call”.
I don’t expect the Refs to just “Do better”. They are already doing much better than anyone I know could. On the fly. With very large men running in all directions around them.
You want to restore faith? Overturn them. Get the wrong calls right. Call the missed ones from upstairs or NY or anywhere someone has a TV.
Let the teams limit what their announcers say, if you want. Not the networks. If it’s questionable, say so

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 11:20 pm

Um, actually I’m arguing the same point I started with, you’ve just focused on the only example I brought up. OK, fair enough, but I offered a potential solution, and you’ve been trying to dismiss it. Again, well and good, but you don’t have a proposal to compete with it. “You want to restore faith? Overturn them. Get the wrong calls right.” is just a fancy way of saying that they should just do it better.

If you have an actual plan, one that could be followed, like my proposal to adopt the AAF(?) approach, and spend the air time on the process of the review official making the call instead of dedicating that time to second-guessers. As a consequence, there was no need to speculate about the call or how it was made, you watch it as it happens. That system meant that replay controversies didn’t happen in their league.

If you want to trash my proposed solution instead of competing with it with a better idea, I can’t stop you, but it hardly adds anything. Alternately, if there’s a factor I overlooked, bring it up, but don’t tell me it won’t work because it’s not traditional NFL content.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/05/2022 12:10 am

Actually, no. Overturning them and getting then right isn’t the same as “just do better”. In fact, I pointed that out. You don’t want to actually discuss it, so we won’t.
Nor are you arguing the same point. I stated what part of your post I took issue with, you, as usual, ignored that and went on your merry way.
You didn’t make a proposal until now. You just said that questioning them in the booth is wrong, which seems a very odd position for you to take. And if you bother to read what I wrote, you’ll see that I said the same thing, only said it would be upstairs, NY, or wherever, which was far more detail than you went into prior to this post.
So can we stop with the passive aggressive, you are just trashing me, and I can’t stop you nonsense?

upamtn
12/04/2022 8:48 pm

meanwhile …

Bills still have the following:

Jets (home) not a gimme
Fins (home) definitely not a gimme
Bears (road) who cares
Bengals (road) another potential loss
Pats (home) they’ve owned Hoodie lately but who knows

as for KC: Chiefs have got this … 14-3 wins the bye

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Last edited 2 months ago by upamtn
NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
12/04/2022 9:08 pm

The only two I see them MAYBE losing are Phins and Bengals. Phins only if it is an unusually warm day in Buffalo in Dec. Unfortunately, I think this might be the year Patrick has to play a playoff outside of Arrowhead

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:33 pm

they only have to lose one of ’em (maybe) … and the Bills ARE human and very capable of losing

KC only seems to lose to Bengals /sigh

but KC is still up on Bengals in overall W-L … same with Fins … and KC sched rest of way is (theoretically) gravy

NovaChiefs
Reply to  upamtn
12/04/2022 9:39 pm

Yes, the rest SHOULD be cake.
And the Bills could easily lose one of those.
So if the Chiefs play to their abilities, we could be the 1

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:45 pm

WOULD be …

upamtn
12/04/2022 8:43 pm

I have a very, very serious question …

has anyone sent a THANK YOU card to the Niners?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
12/04/2022 8:10 pm

When did the cowgirls add the weird ugly red strip on their helmets?

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
12/04/2022 8:27 pm

wondering what the story is on that

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  WaywerdSon
12/04/2022 9:06 pm

I’m prolly wrong, but to my eye, it looked like a red, white, and blue attempt by Jerry, to push his lame “America’s Team” marketing tactic.

It’s over, Jerry. Get over yourself.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:08 pm

I believe you are correct

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:15 pm

On both points, I presume.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:20 pm

I would agree. It really clashes with their colors though.

alsi
alsi
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
12/04/2022 8:37 pm

They have a blue and a red stripe…they’re “blue” because the defender “red” Prescott’s pass for the INT.

BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 8:00 pm

Well, since there aren’t many who seem interested in the game, I’ll provide some alternative entertainment:

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 8:01 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 8:01 pm
upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 8:52 pm

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
12/04/2022 8:59 pm

I aim to please. Unfortunately, my aim isn’t good, so I go shotgun instead of rifle.

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:00 pm

LOL

scattershot or scatterbrained? 😉 all good, Brother

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  upamtn
12/04/2022 9:03 pm

I hit my target with a single shot, this time, but I know my prey. 😉

upamtn
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
12/04/2022 9:36 pm

used to have a set VERY much like this one … lost it some years back (sad face) … pretty sure this was “it” (plus box car, gas tanker, etc & caboosie

https://postwarlionel.com/motive-power/steam/pacific/2035-k-4-pacific/

upamtn
Reply to  upamtn
12/04/2022 9:47 pm

pretty sure I had 2-6-4 as above, but COULDA been 2-6-2

https://www.tandem-associates.com/lionel/lionel_trains_675_loco.htm

either way, was cool AND had whistle tender and smoke thing on front of motive

alsi
alsi
12/04/2022 7:27 pm

Interesting news:

Just eight plays into the San Francisco 49ers‘ opening drive Sunday, quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo departed with a left foot injury that will end his season.
49ers coach Kyle Shanahan said after his team’s 33-17 victory over the Miami Dolphins that Garoppolo has a broken foot and will undergo season-ending surgery.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  alsi
12/04/2022 7:59 pm

The NFC is now officially a one horse race

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/04/2022 6:58 pm

Colts 4-7-1 vs the Cowboys 8-3. This is a game that probably should have been flexed.

ForeverRanger91
12/04/2022 6:57 pm

You know how I move on? I take my jersey off and figure out which one I am wearing next week. Give you a hint. Kelce wasn’t the only great Chiefs player to wear 87. That is if it comes in the mail by Sunday.

Last edited 2 months ago by ForeverRanger91
NovaChiefs
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
12/04/2022 9:12 pm

If it’s a game jersey, you better invite a few friends to wear it with you. It will be VERY big.
Assuming you’re not talking Steve Maneri

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:27 pm

Talking about Eddie.

NovaChiefs
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
12/04/2022 9:30 pm

Aaron Brown would have been my guess for other great 87’s

ForeverRanger91
Reply to  NovaChiefs
12/04/2022 9:32 pm

Been on a retro Chiefs jersey kick the last couple of years. I have Priest, Delaney, and Dante Hall so far. I love the Reebok jersey’s so much more than Nike.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  ForeverRanger91
12/04/2022 9:19 pm

Next week is a Kelce jersey game. Barring a catastrophe he will surpass 10000 yards for his career and reach 1000 yards in a season for the 7th straight year.

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