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The Chiefs dominated the Texans. Kareem who? Bashaud who? Grab yourself a cup o’ joe and get in the Huddle!

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Chiefs manhandle Texans yet again, winning season opener 34-20 | PFT

Patrick Mahomes, the Super Bowl LIV MVP, went 24-of-32 for 211 yards and three touchdowns. Sammy Watkins made seven catches for 82 yards and a touchdown, while Travis Kelce caught six passes for 50 yards and a score and Tyreek Hill added five receptions for 46 and a touchdown.

Rookie Clyde Edwards-Helaire ran for 138 yards and a touchdown on 25 carries, and another rookie, cornerback L’Jarius Sneed, had three tackles, two pass breakups and an interception he returned 39 yards to set up a touchdown.

Texans vs. Chiefs game recap: Everything we know | ChiefsWire

Dollars vs. Cents: Both teams locked up their quarterbacks to huge extensions this offseason, but it was clear by the end of the third quarter, the value of the weapons the Chiefs have surrounded Mahomes with are of a considerable higher quality than the ones Houston has given Deshaun Watson — at least the ones who are still on the team. At different times, Travis Kelce (a great route on this touchdown catch) and Clyde Edwards-Helaire were the most dominating players on the field, all as Mahomes maintained an excellent, if quiet, performance. . . . Bringing the pain: Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones and defensive end Frank Clark made life miserable for Watson. The pair highlighted a nasty Chiefs’ pass rush with 2.5 sacks between them. . . . What’s up, rook: Safety Tyrann Mathieu’s pressure forced an interception by rookie L’Jarius Sneed, who had a solid night in coverage despite being tested often early. Two strong performances from two Chiefs rookies should have an impact as the season continues.

Patrick Mahomes, Clyde Edwards-Helaire Lead Chiefs Past Watson, Texans in Opener | B/R

Chiefs rookie running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire dominated in his debut with 138rushing yards and one touchdown on 25 carries. Quarterback Patrick Mahomes went 24-of-32 for 211 yards and three scores.

The Chiefs offense has been nearly unstoppable over the past two seasons with Mahomes at quarterback, but the addition of Edwards-Helaire has taken the team to even greater heights.

[Video] Another Up Close Look at Clyde Edwards-Helaire’s First Touchdown in the NFL | Chiefs.com

Watch an in-stadium view of Kansas City Chiefs rookie running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire’s first NFL touchdown

Clyde Edwards-Helaire gets first NFL touchdown, first 100-yard game | PFT

That didn’t take long. Clyde Edwards-Helaire was the 32nd overall choice in the draft this spring, but he likely didn’t last that long in many (if any) fantasy drafts. Everyone knew he was going to be good in the Chiefs’ offense

Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson share hilarious sideline exchange during Chiefs-Texans NFL kickoff game | NFL.com

Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson have the utmost respect for each other as football players and competitors, keeping a lasting friendship since their college days when they were two of college football‘s best quarterbacks. During Thursday’s season opener, Watson shared a moment with Mahomes, heading over to the Chiefs bench and sitting next to Mahomes during the second quarter of the NFL Kickoff Game. The Texans quarterback had some fun seeing his friend — all part of what makes Mahomes and Watson so likable. 

“I think I said something to him last year at the end of the (AFC divisional playoff) game, that we’re going to have these battles for a long time,” Mahomes said earlier this week. “We’re two opponents in the same conference in the AFC, so I’m sure I’ll see a lot of games against him.”

Chiefs’ Players of the Game in Week 1 vs. Texans | ChiefsWire

The first-round rookie was carrying a lot of hype with him into his first career game and he was able to handle it. He was fed early and obviously was a big part of the Chiefs’ game plan. His first career touchdown came in the third quarter on a 27-yard scamper that involved a couple few broken tackles. He finished the game with 25 carries, 138 rushing yards, and one touchdown.

Another rookie starter made a great start to his NFL career but on the opposite side of the ball. Cornerback L’Jarius Sneed made his first career start and impressed the entire contest. Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson tried to take advantage of the rookie multiple times but Sneed continuously denied completed passes. On a pass that was thrown early due to Tyrann Mathieu pressure, he hauled in his first career interception. The Chiefs seem to have a future star in the secondary.

The third rookie on the list perhaps had the biggest shoes to fill. The rookie punter was tasked with replacing Dustin Colquitt who had been with the Chiefs since 2005. He did not disappoint. His first punt hit inside the five but the coverage team failed to down it before bouncing into the endzone. After that, Townsend continuously pinned the Texans offense deep and helping the defense holding the visitors to only 20 points.

Grading the NFL’s return: What we saw in the Chiefs’ win over the Texans | ESPN.com

Admit it. You went into your fantasy draft thinking you were the only one who was on Edwards-Helaire, a multi-talented running back that the Chiefs made their first-round draft pick.

The only surprise Thursday night was that the Chiefs employed him mostly as a runner and targeted him only two times in the passing game. Behind some strong blocking from new guard Kelechi Osemele, Edwards-Helaire ran for 138 yards and a touchdown. Here’s a statistic you probably didn’t know existed: He reached 100 rushing yards in his first game quicker than any rookie in the past 13 seasons. Edwards-Helaire crossed that threshold in 34 minutes of game time, according to ESPN Stats & Information research, the fastest in a debut since Matt Forte in 2008.

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Spider
Spider
09/11/2020 8:30 pm

Y’all wanna hear something wild? We got duped. I listened to a video from inside the stadium and there was no booing during the show of unity. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. They were yelling “Chiefs.” Fucking fake news.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 8:37 pm

This video from Arrowhead Stadium shows fans were not booing when players from the #Chiefs and #Texans gathered at midfield for a moment of unity before kickoff. #Texans HC Bill O’Brien also said after the game he didn’t hear boos.

(🎥 @darkkightinMO)pic.twitter.com/DG6yNAJfQH

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) September 11, 2020

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
09/11/2020 5:06 pm

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  HawaiiFiveOh
09/11/2020 5:12 pm

I don’t think it solely comes down to Watson not having talent around him. Nuk was arguably the best WR in the league the last 2 years and constantly bailed out Watson on bad throws.

I think sports media overrates how “talented” he is. He’s good, but like 10-15 good. His accuracy is questionable at best as is his decision making. He gets a LOT of garbage time stats as well. Just like our game last night, we played them 2 years ago and I think he had like 50 yards passing in the 1st half and we dominated them. We were up by a ton and in the last few minutes and 3 TD passes, one with 0 time remaining when none of them mattered.

Last edited 6 days ago by Pelletman
HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 5:25 pm

No, it wasn’t talent. It was coaching. The Texans by all rights should be an AFC Championship contender, but for some reason BoB is dismantling them as a GM and blundering on the field as a result.

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Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  HawaiiFiveOh
09/11/2020 5:34 pm

BoB has a lot to blame, I’m just not as high on Watson as others.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 5:42 pm

I think he’s good enough to win a championship with. Do a straight up trade with the 49ers, Ravens, or Chiefs and those are 100% championship teams. Even teams like the Bucs or Bills would at least be contenders with Watson.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
09/11/2020 1:48 pm

It was nice watching my favorite team dismantle a 2019 play off winning team last night. It was not nice to once again listen to everyone talk about everything other than the football being played. Big reds face shield is going to cause a loss at some point I will donate some FogX to the cause. Also how does one talk into their mic with fabric over the mouth? That is going to cause some mis-communications at some point.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  ArrowFan
09/11/2020 2:37 pm

I can’t believe they didn’t flag down a local paintball store or something…. to make that shield fog proof lol.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  ArrowFan
09/11/2020 4:25 pm

I volunteer to be a “squeegee guy” following Reid up and down the sidelines, springing into action when his mask gets fogged. They have the “stay back” guys, why not a squeegee guy?

Pelletman
Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:01 pm

This is why there were boos and why so many people are pissed off.

The Left/MSM/Entertainment/Sports industry is against racism.
The Right is against racism.

We already progressed as a country to a point were racism is almost nonexistent, however, the Left/MSM/Entertainment/Sports industry fabricate “racism” so they can virtue signal and feel morally superior. The right is saying…. fuck that, we weren’t racist to begin with…and systemic racism in this country is non-existent so agreeing with you would mean agreeing that those things exist. Nope, not going to happen. I’ll keep educating the ignorant people who drum up imaginary racism to divide our country.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:10 pm

Prepared to be called a Nazi evil Klansman in 3.2.1…
Seriously though, spot on and even though this will be -5 in a few short minutes by the morally superior crew, you get a +1 from me.

workingmansdead
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 12:15 pm

You made your point. Drop it, man.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  workingmansdead
09/11/2020 12:30 pm

You know, no. I am not dropping it. I am so sick of these assholes calling everyone a racist, then when someone brings up a good comment, they claim FALSE FALSE FALSE.
You all want people with different opinions to just drop it. Some of us tried, but we got sick of it.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 6:54 pm

Correct, if ignored these people will only get farther out of wack so to speak

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:19 pm

We already progressed as a country to a point were racism is almost nonexistent

well, that’s just false …

The right is saying…. fuck that, we weren’t racist to begin with…and systemic racism in this country is non-existent so agreeing with you would mean agreeing that those things exist

… and that’s also false

seems to me that you’re invoking some kind of “holier than thou” attitude while being in complete denial about what’s going on out on the streets, day after day after day … you’re entitled to your own belief, but not “your own facts” … racism is very sadly alive and well in America … and maybe, just MAYBE, if ALL of America were to come together (you know: UNITY! … the very thing that you SEEM to call “dividing out country”) then maybe, just MAYBE, the players wouldn’t feel the NEED to make “public statements” such as they did (and will continue to do)

IMNSHO … of course

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:21 pm

Actually neither are false, what are you examples of systemic racism?

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:31 pm

holier than thou

Could have predicted that was coming in response. Anything else man?

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:36 pm

the entire system is inherently racist and unfair … it’s built in

maybe you should go read about it, just google it and read with an open mind … all the information you need is “out there” … but Dude, if you want a SPECIFIC, think about this: a Black KID with a TOY gun is shot dead almost point blank by one cop, while a White KID with an AK-47 is allowed to run around and “play army” (to the point where HE killed someone) by a different cop …

no, Dude, racism is alive and unwell in America … wake up, Brother

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:39 pm

Continue to cherry pick for your distorted narrative. I could spend the rest of the day filling up this comment section linking to articles, data, videos, everything with black on white crime stats. Rape stats, violent crime, everything.
Problem is, YOU wont look with an open mind and just discount anything outside of your “evil Nazi whitey” narrative which is misguided.
He gave a perfect example of how in the Taylor situation, yet you force yourself to disagree.

upamtn
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 12:41 pm

thank you ever so much for your enlightened contribution to the discussion, and do have a most wonderful day

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:49 pm

Again, you’re confusing tragedies with racism.

The police were responding to a call for help, to help defend a black community. If they were racist, why even go? One of the officers was a rookie and panicked after Tamir presented the airsoft gun (which looks real) instead of showing his hands. They even tried to save him after the shoot and were distraught when they realized what happened.

They weren’t sitting around at lunch and were saying “You know what would be fun, let’s gun down a 12 year old black boy today, white power!”.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:52 pm

There are over 375 million police interactions per year and we have a handful of sketchy shoots that get politicized for a reason. You don’t hear about a single white person getting shot by police (even though there are more) but you hear about every black person and they say it’s racist. No context, don’t the the full story, simply about racism. Fuck that.

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 1:30 pm

I’m not actually taking a side here, but I will point out a flaw in your example. The black kid and white kid had many other things different in their situation besides just being a different race so you can’t definitively say they are race related.

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 1:44 pm

I do understand that it’s a “generalization” of sorts, but … and this is an important … in both cases a “gun” was involved … again, the black kid with a toy was shot almost immediately, while the white kid with a very real HUGE gun was allowed to walk around at will … and why? it’s an inherent form of racism, a built-in thing, so subtle that few even recognize it for what it is … and it’s a HUGE difference

if that white kid with an AK-47 is allowed to roam around free, why should a black kid be shot on sight?

that’s a problem …

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:27 pm

you don’t know there’s inherent racism, that’s the problem. The black kid and white kid were from different cities in different states with different police. Anyone of those things add variables that you aren’t accounting for. The police officers in those situations could have had significantly different training which dictated how they handled the particular situation they were in. That doesn’t mean the system is racist. Trying to cookie cutter the entire country into a one size fits all situation is not productive.

i agree it’s a problem, but not necessarily a race one.

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upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 3:44 pm

it’s inherent racism and it can’t be called anything else, leaf … it’s there, it exists, and denying it doesn’t make it go away … yes there are variables, thee are ALWAYS variables, but … every single time something happens it’s “the black guy” always pays with his life …

Every. Single. Time.

it’s built-in to “the system” and most of the time nobody knows it’s there, because it’s so subtle and insidious …

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-civil-rights-expert-explains-the-social-science-of-police-racism/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/7/21293259/police-racism-violence-ideology-george-floyd

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:45 pm

Why are there more white people killed by police than black people then?

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:46 pm

I stopped a few paragraphs into your first source because they had the audacity to bring up Michael Brown. LMAO.

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:26 pm

You are missing my point. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist. I’m pointing out that the “facts” that you, and others are using to prove racism, don’t actually prove it. It could be, but it could be a number of other things as well. The difference between us is that I’m not so rigid in my stance that I dismiss all other possibilities.

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 4:38 pm

not sure what “other things” but I see (and know, and appreciate) that you are far from racist

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:43 pm

Here’s a link for you. Or at least I’ll try to paste it as a link.
https://quillette.com/2020/06/11/racist-police-violence-reconsidered/

upamtn
Reply to  Big Chief
09/11/2020 4:53 pm

got it … and some valid points (including the points about black being more likely to be stopped, treated harshly, etc) … and agreed, not everything that happens is “racial” … the point that SO many people seem to miss, however, is that SOME of it is absolutely racial (even if unintentional) and, as the author rightly noted: police training (in America) is lacking in a lot of areas

thank ya

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:56 pm

Nope.

It has more to do with wealth inequality than race. Low income, crime filled areas are patrolled more by the police (….because that’s where most crime is committed). Whatever racial demographic makes up the majority of those areas are going to be impacted more.

For example, South side of Chicago vs southern Missouri. Both are cracked down on for their crime, 2 different demographics are going to be impacted.

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 5:16 pm

I would also recommend checking into Radley Balko’s writings, he’s currently with the Washington Post. He’s been on this beat for about 20 years and first opened my eyes on the subject almost 20 years ago.

If the police abuse were proportional by race, I can’t imagine that anyone would be any happier. It’s a total break from reality to pretend these things only happen to black people. Fixing issues with qualified immunity (for police and DAs), police militarization, civil asset forfeiture, no-knock raids, drug laws, sentencing restrictions, and punitive bail – will have a much bigger impact than most of the current proposals I read about now.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  Big Chief
09/11/2020 5:20 pm

Police abuse mirrors violent crime rates.

I agree that we should focus more on the latter part of your argument. My biggest concern is wealth inequality in the court room and how it reflects on sentencing. (high priced lawyers bailing people out)

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Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 5:24 pm

What do you mean in regards to “wealth inequality in the court room”.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  Big Chief
09/11/2020 5:33 pm

Poor people (of all races) are sentenced more often and have lengthier sentences compared to wealthy people who can afford high dollar lawyers.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:33 pm

Here’s an example, let’s look at the tragedy of Breonna Taylor. The Left confuses a rare, complex tragedy with “racism”.

The Left would have you believe that racist cops gunned down a black woman. In reality, there was a no-knock drug warrant on her apartment, her boyfriend fired at the officers and she was shot by return fire.

Now, if Left wanted to say “Hey, these no-knock raids are dangerous and innocent people can be killed, let’s look at changing the policy”….that’s something we can all “unite” on. Instead, their mantra is “this was police brutality by racist police”.

Again, fuck that, that’s not what happened and not something I’ll agree to.

Fabricated racism.

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:20 pm

I’m sure we’ll hear more about the booing over the coming days unfortunately. But I haven’t heard anyone discuss that the boos were mixed in with cheers during what was supposed go be a moment of silence. Based on history, I would have expected silence in that stadium during a moment of silence regardless, not a mix of boos and cheers.

I know the announcement came over the broadcast, but during the game I could barely hear the stadium announcer. So is it possible people didn’t know what was going on? Was the stadium announcing level set right? I’d be interested to learn the real story, not whatever crap those with preset narratives have already started to spout. You have to really dig to find the real truth about these things anymore.

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pompano
pompano
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:21 pm

“racism is almost nonexistent”
???
if you say so…

upamtn
Reply to  pompano
09/11/2020 12:30 pm

the problem, of course, isn’t where racism DOESN’T exist, but rather where it DOES …

imagine getting on an airplane and the captain says: “thank you for flying almost non-existent problems airlines, and while we understand that some of you might feel uncomfortable given our past history of plane crashes, we want to assure each and every one of you that those mechanical and pilot issues are now ALMOST NON-EXISTENT … good luck and please fasten your seat belts”

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:33 pm

but rather where it DOES 

How many articles can we link here? Ya know the ones where random people are out eating their lunch and get “FUCK WHITEY” screamed into their faces, or where someone comes up from behind them and knocks them out while yelling “Worldstar”
Try again.

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Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:38 pm

Racism will always exist to some tiny degree. On all sides. Hopefully you’re not one of those people who think black people can’t be racist…because there are plenty. The point is, it’s very rare and it’s completely non-existent in our laws.

It does, however, still exist systemically with things like affirmative action.

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upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:40 pm

I agree: anyone can be racist

(won’t get into “laws” here … the nuances are way too vague all over the place … suffice it to say that “no system is perfect”)

Spider
Spider
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:57 pm

Ironically, you just described every flying operation.
…and that’s why pilotless airliners will never work. But, that’s a whole ‘nother thread.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 12:35 pm

Exactly.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 2:04 pm

So your position is “shut up and dribble “. Got it.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 2:38 pm

My position is to actually be informed on what you’re talking about.

Wait, where in that entire post did you see anything about telling the players to shut up? I just want them to know what they’re talking about.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 2:41 pm

The world according to pelletman? Are you black? Have you ever been black? Maybe black people have a better idea of what it’s like to be black than some white dude. Just a thought.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 2:52 pm

This isn’t an argument.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:02 pm

Sure it is. You just want to throw around some numbers and conspiracy theories and proclaim racism is over. I’m surprised you left out George Soros.

 the Left/MSM/Entertainment/Sports industry fabricate “racism”

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:06 pm

I’ve given examples where the Leftist narrative is “police are racist killers” and the reality of the situation is far different.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:09 pm

it’s quite true that “not ALL cops are bad” …

… it’s also true that “SOME cops are bad”

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:10 pm

The problem is, it’s 99% good, 1% bad and the SJW narrative is making out to be 1% good 99% bad.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:11 pm

no, that “narrative” is, has been and continues to be “DO SOMETHING about the 1%”

when that’s done, things should be MUCH improved …

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:13 pm

No, “reality” is. We have numbers of police interactions, we have numbers of shootings, we have investigations into sketchy shootings.

We know the stats and the stats say the police aren’t systemically racist and they’re not targeting or gunning down black people. It’s a fucking lie.

Last edited 6 days ago by Pelletman
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 5:50 pm

“Stop and Frisk” was entirely biased against minorities in its application, despite minorities being less likely than Whites to be caught with contraband. In its peak year there were more stops of those in the age category “young Black men” than there were young Black men in NYC.

Those are NYPD stats, BTW, and NYPD wasn’t happy when the courts ruled the obvious, that those stops were in violation of the 4th Amendment, nor were the unions. Meanwhile, holding a bad cop accountable is nearly impossible, and even police with felony records remain on some forces.

Another fact is that it’s almost impossible to remove “bad apples” from police forces big enough to have a union and that those unions meddle in politics for their own advantages. They also fight and/or subvert all reform efforts, just as they fight cannabis reforms that would deprive them of a lot of safe, easy busts. Pretty much everything every officer says that’s anti-cannabis reform has been untrue, from calling it “a gateway drug” to predicting that CO’s legalization would be disastrous. On top of that, cannabis laws were racist from the outset and really haven’t been significantly altered.

These are all facts, and far from the only ones on a long list. I wonder how many officers who had sex with their “pet” underaged prostitute will be convicted of statutory rape or conspiracy to protect her business ventures. Or how many of the corrupt Houston narco squad will be convicted for any of their crimes. How many more facts do I need to cite before you’ll admit that I’m not “cherry picking”?

One thing I expect is for you to be upset by me citing literal facts that you don’t like, in spite of me not saying a word attacking you and sticking entirely to the facts.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/11/2020 6:19 pm

Stop and Frisk was 100% targeted at high crime areas.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/11/2020 6:21 pm

Also, most of your “facts” have nothing to do with racism…it’s about police reform.

Also, you might also want to check your own racism if you think black people are predetermined to be tied to cannabis and can’t control themselves so they have to break the law. How dare you, sir.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
09/11/2020 7:05 pm

So much for saying you would keep your big cop hating mouth shut to lowbird.

I cant fucking stand you anymore

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:10 pm

Now say the same thing for white people not being racist. Say the same thing for not everyone being a Nazi who doesn’t go along with your “feelings”

upamtn
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 3:12 pm

not EVERY white guy is a Nazi …

… but SOME white guys ARE

(happy now?)

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:15 pm

No. You nazi

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Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:17 pm

All 10 of them….

And some are militant black panthers
And some are purple haired, ugly, fat, mentally ill Antifa freaks.

Extreme minorities that are pushed as scary majorities to form a narrative.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:21 pm

Not defending the far left, they’re just as wack as the far right. I am supporting our black community’s pursuit of justice. You want to stand in the way, go ahead.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:23 pm

Here’s the thing… I’m not standing “in the way” because it’s a non-issue. It’s fabricated

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:31 pm

oh, so you ARE the “arbiter of all truth” … really? again, YOU say it’s “fabricated” but others say it’s real … myself, when I see a BAD COP kneeling on a guy for 8 minutes while THREE OTHER BAD COPS watch and video the whole thing (with none of them saying “you shouldn’t do that”) then yanno what … that’s as REAL as it gets

so yeah, there ARE bad cops yet they’re covered for … by OTHER cops (who, by definition, must be equally as bad)

deny or pretend all you want to … you have NO EXCUSES LEFT … we have VIDEO … what more evidence do you need?

seeya

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:35 pm

It doesn’t matter what other “say” or “feel”. What matters is what actually happened. Holy shit dude.

Heck, take the George Floyd situation. It was very complex and a lot of bad things had to happen. The cops made some bad decisions but no one talks about what came out after the fact. No one talks about how Floyd was already saying “I can’t breath” while standing up and no cop was touching him. No one talks about how he most likely OD’d from fentanyl.

Nope, the emotional outrage narrative immediately won and now you have people’s business and lives destroyed by riots.

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:08 pm

It is, but the only TRUE thing we know about that situation is that the police officer, and his buddies, were bad people. That doesn’t prove that the system is racist. It proves those cops were scum of the earth.

Yes bad cops are covered for, and you’ll find many throughout this country that would find fault with the LE system. Again that doesn’t prove racism, only a problem in the LE system.

as it’s been pointed out video isn’t as conclusive as you are making it. Without context, it’s only part of the truth. If I only showed you only a clip of an angry Luke Skywalk pounding his lightsaber down on a knocked down Darth Vader, one can believe a story that Luke is the aggressor and the bad guy. Without the context you wouldn’t know that he was attacking him to protect his sister and that in the end he pulls up short of killing him.

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 4:41 pm

bingo … issues with LE … and THAT’S what the protests are all about

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:43 pm

bullllllllshit. There has ALWAYS been the caveat that it’s due to racism.

If they would have came at from an angle that we’re all equally screwed, it would be completely different.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:06 pm

Well no crap, black people have a better idea of what it is like being black. Maybe they can stop with all their violent crime. Wait, let me guess it is a white persons fault that there are literally hundreds of thousands of cases on violent black on white crime.
https://www.amren.com/news/2019/11/black-on-white-crime-racism-murder-rape/

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 3:11 pm

White supremacists will remain the most “persistent and lethal threat” in the United States through 2021, according to Department of Homeland Security draft documents.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:13 pm

Wait, now all of sudden something from the Trump regime you agree with? Delusion.
Sad that so many innocent and hard working white people in this country have had their lives cut short in brutal fashion by bands of racist blacks.
Sad that so many innocent hard working white people in Portland and Kenosha had their businesses torched and looted, by the evil White Supremacists.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 3:19 pm

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Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:45 pm

Okay I find that funny. But only because it’s hard to take anything from our government seriously with so the bull shit they peddle

Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:43 pm

playing devils advocate here, but are any of the black screaming racism in the system white? By your logic they can’t know what it’s like to be white because they are not. Therefore they can’t know if they are being treated unfairly because they can’t compare the two accurately

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 4:14 pm

By listening. You are really starting to get boring.

Leaf
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 4:52 pm

Lol okay I’ll just be an asshole then. Would that be more exciting 😜

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 4:52 pm

How dare you think critically and for yourself, BORINGGGGG

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 4:56 pm

Yes, I can’t get pissed off when you play this neutral position. 😁

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:02 pm

I do believe the players know as much (and most likely MUCH more) about all of what’s going than ANY fan on this website …

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:05 pm

No, they don’t and I’ve already given a couple of examples. They’re fed a narrative and believe it to be true.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:14 pm

with all DUE respect: seems to me (and a few others) that the “Right” is peddling “false narratives”

thus the need for continued conversation on issues until they’re resolved …

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:15 pm

The “right” is going off reality. Waiting for investigations. Waiting for the truth.

The Left is drumming up hysteria and basing everything off instant emotional responses without waiting for reality.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:25 pm

in YOUR perspective/perception … that’s untrue in the perspective of others

different frame of reference for different people = different observations

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:27 pm

Perspective is irrelevant… reality is.

Context and facts matter, emotions are bullshit and irrelevant.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:32 pm

… and videos don’t lie, right?

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:36 pm

Neither do pictures

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Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:43 pm

Here’s the thing… 99% of all people (on both sides) condemn white nationalists. The only people who support them and give them a platform (like CNN) are those on the Left that need something to rally against to feel good about themselves.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:46 pm

and supported by FOX NEWS giving them a platform, along with Q-ANON …

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:47 pm

They gave Richard Spencer a live interview and airtime?

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:50 pm

Really? Uh…good people on both sides? Yeah, sure.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:54 pm

Welp, here’s another example of Leftist media manipulation and the suckers that believe them.

President Trump 100% condemned white nationalists in that interview. That “protest” had to do with destroying our National monuments/statues. There were people with good intentions to denounce racism on the Left, there were good people to argue against destroying history on the right…and then you had assholes like Antifa and White Nationalists that were there to stir the pot.

He was very specific about this but the Left controls the narrative and now people like you think he backed White Nationalists. You’re controlled and it’s sad.

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probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:56 pm

Blood and soil was a misunderstanding? Ok 👍

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:56 pm

This is what you got out of my reply? Jesus dude.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 4:07 pm

He is never specific about anything. He takes every possible position in order to deny responsibility for anything he says. Get your story straight, it took him 2 days to figure out he was supporting bigots. Something that was obvious from the very beginning. Controlled? LOL.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 4:30 pm

He LITERALLY says, “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.” 

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:36 pm

Videos can…when context isn’t included. They’re a snapshot in time but context still needs to be weighed.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:30 pm

4+4 = 8 is reality
4+4 =/= 8 to me because it looks like sideways boobs and that’s inherently sexist so please observe my feelings you racist asshole.

This is basically what we’re dealing with.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:08 pm

How so? Pampering for these elite athletes starts in Junior High. If anything this discussion here, all these athletes should be left out.
Obviously none of them have been so hopped up on Fentanyl they died while being arrested.

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:35 pm

Disagree. Some sure, but not all. Not all logged in an environment that posed the potential for police brutality. Therefore they are just like the rest of us in making an option based on what they hear.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 3:01 pm

So your position is “shut up whitey cause you are racist.” Got it.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 3:05 pm

Nah. I like to talk too much. Sorry.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 6:53 pm

Thank you for your efforts I appreciate it

zulu trader
zulu trader
09/11/2020 10:55 am

I guess we are not going to be talking football today boys and girls

Leaf
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 11:03 am

The nfl/teams making a very public political statement last night, and the media ripping apart the reaction to said statement, kind of makes that impossible for the time being (especially given the current political climate in the country ATM). They are too interwoven

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MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 11:08 am

Now if football time was just for football we wouldn’t be in this situation

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 11:09 am

Oh, thanks for explaining

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d-block
d-block
09/11/2020 10:41 am

ACT LIKE A RACIST AND GET MAD WHEN YOU GET CALLED ONE

workingmansdead
Reply to  d-block
09/11/2020 10:42 am

Stop. Now. You and the other guy. I don’t care what “side” you’re on.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  d-block
09/11/2020 10:47 am

Decide people are racist because they dont agree with you. Fuck off we are in America and dont have to agree with you. You bunch of assholes use that shit to try and make people be quite not because those people are racist. Hell there is a growing group of black and other minorities that dont believe the shit that is being spewed by the left either. I suppose they are racist too?

People are growing tired of the hushing techniques and are starting to speak out over them.

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LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  MidKan Chiefs Lifer
09/11/2020 10:48 am

Of course his comment gets to stay, but mine gets scrubbed. Typical even after this mod said “both sides”

workingmansdead
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 10:49 am

I deleted both.

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  workingmansdead
09/11/2020 10:53 am

He’s got multiple comments calling people “racists” but whatever, I actually think this is funny. I don’t want you to delete his posts, he’s entitled to his opinion, unlike me.

Leaf
Reply to  workingmansdead
09/11/2020 10:54 am

Damn I missed the fun 😂

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  workingmansdead
09/11/2020 11:13 am

Delete them all and send the posters back to AP :). Is it so hard to just discuss football.

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 12:15 pm

Sending them to AP! That might count as cruel and unusual punishment. I don’t think I’ve been there just to look around in about a year. I checked in earlier this week just to see what the activity was like. What a ghost town. It was weird to see how dead the comments sections are.

Leaf
Reply to  Big Chief
09/11/2020 12:24 pm

Vox is running it into the ground.

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:26 pm

yeah they are … sad what it’s become

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:30 pm

It really is. The whole point of SBNation was to be a community of fans.

upamtn
Reply to  d-block
09/11/2020 11:52 am

d-block … while I more or less agree with you (in principle) … posting a “Generic All-Caps Inflammatory Comment” isn’t the best way to make a point, much less carry on “intelligent discussion” … calm down and be reasonable and lucid (trust me on this one)

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat
09/11/2020 9:38 am

I keep seeing talk about the booing of unity. Look, people who are not racists and love this country are tired of being accused of racism and tired of being told, by millionaires no less, that systemic racism exists in the US. The NFL has always brought us together and should be a racial unifier. Take Tyreek and I for example. We could not be more different culturally. I am a farmer who lives to fish, hunt, and hike in the American West. I am as white as white can be. My kids call me a “white girl” for my coffee preferences. No one would call me a great athlete. I probably would not fit in Tyreek’s social circle and although he is welcome anytime, he might be uncomfortable in mine. However, I am a huge fan and admirer of Tyreek personally and professionally. This has nothing to do with our color. Tyreek Hill is a gifted athlete who has become the best receiver in the NFL because he has worked so hard to hone his skills as a receiver. He has also overcome a great deal of adversity in his personal life. I admire him for these accomplishments and also because he seems to have a zest for life, always seems to have fun on the field, and enjoys interacting with fans. Football has brought two people together whose paths may never have crossed without the sport we both love. This is the beauty of football, it is not divisive, it is unifying. It is a true meritocracy, and skin color truly does not matter. All colors of Chiefs fans are unified in their support of OUR team. So when fans perceive a divisive message being expressed by the NFL, and the league tells us skin color does matter, it hurts us and we boo. That is how I see it anyway. Go Chiefs!

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Mahomesisgreat
09/11/2020 9:46 am

save this political shit for open threads

today we talk about football

all the SHIT like this is for open threads

Leaf
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:49 am

Well technically that was relevant to last nights game. Not really their fault that the game had political elements

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Leaf
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 10:33 am

lol oh how I missed our intellectual discourse

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 11:09 am

I move that we just try to abstain from talking politics altogether, except in cases like “don’t forget to vote” or “how do you think the economy will bounce back after [x]?,” but even that is a slippery slope.

Save politics for Facebook.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 11:10 am

You are so right I wish everybody here understood that

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 11:12 am

Certain political phenomena, such as the economy thing I mentioned, could be addressed as objectively as possible. I think there is room for that, and then people can take whatever information is objectively presented and use their beliefs/experiences/what-have-you to form their own political opinions about it, which they keep off of here.

There is a time and a place for politics, to be sure – and a football team forum during football season is not one of them.

(Of course, I’m probably not one to talk; the second word on my “bio” is “libertarian,” and have been known to get political on here in the past…)

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Leaf
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 11:51 am

Tell that to the guys on the field last night

Leaf
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 11:48 am

Not likely to happen though. The craziness of our political climate ATM is such that it’s nearly impossible to completely separate. You would have to go complete Pol Pete to accomplish that feat

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:08 pm

Yeah I suppose that’s true. And unfortunately in this day and age it is impossible to separate, as you said, since everything is driven by “likes” and our unwillingness to engage with other viewpoints to learn something.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for debate, as long as it’s done respectfully and amicably. Unfortunately those two traits have disappeared of late.

Leaf
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 12:19 pm

While there have been some heat at times, we haven’t been they bad here. I think the majority of the discussions on here have been reasonably “respectful”. But as the nature of politics, tempers can flare. The trick isn’t to get offended when they do and work past it.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:26 pm

That is true, absolutely. I agree that this place hasn’t been as bad as most, but it’s still a slippery slope.

Luckily here the voices of reason seem to drown out the lunatic fringe, for now.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 12:06 pm

I didn’t bring it up. I actually agree with you.

d-block
d-block
Reply to  Mahomesisgreat
09/11/2020 10:32 am

Only the racist turds booed. I’m ashamed you people that booed are part of my state.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
Reply to  d-block
09/11/2020 10:48 am

I’m sure they are ashamed you are a part of theirs

upamtn
Reply to  Mahomesisgreat
09/11/2020 11:50 am

So when fans perceive a divisive message being expressed by the NFL, and the league tells us skin color does matter, it hurts us and we boo

but when it’s the players themselves, don’t you think maybe, just MAYBE, the fans should listen? I get it: everyone is “tired” of the protests, the kneeling, the divisiveness … but that;s just the thing here: those players KNOW people who have been lost to “racial injustice” … for many of them, it’s not JUST a “racial” thing, it’s a “personal” thing (Walk A Mile in MY Shoes) … so people are “tired” of the “kneeling” … but the BS keeps happening, so the players feel that the ONLY avenue they have to make a statement is a 10 second “show of unity” … yet SOMEHOW the very action of “unity” is perceived as RACIST … wtf, Dude?

(Note to Zulu: it happened DURING a game {ok, just before kickoff} and is, therefore, open to RESPECTFUL discussion)

LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 11:57 am

Bill O’Brien himself said that it was people booing them coming onto the field. Do you honestly expect a bunch of people who have been getting drunk in the parking lot since noon to immediately stop, take off their hats, place their hand over their heart and shed a tear for this moment of unity? Half of them were probably so far drunk they don’t even remember it. What if it was a drunk black dude booing them, is he a “NAZI?”
NFL Network commentators said it live, but as typical we will let the militant media decide the narrative, and have everyone at each others throats because of it.

upamtn
Reply to  LyingDogFacedPonySoldier
09/11/2020 12:23 pm

the “militant media” … wow … whatever

Spider
Spider
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:43 pm

I see the kneeling and standing with arms locked as two entirely different displays. Both are symbolic and we must recognize that symbols may communicate different messages to different people. With kneeling, there was an overtly and purposeful display of unpatriotic behavior designed to offend and demonstrate disrespect the audience in order to further a (political) cause. At best, was an ineffective presentation of the alleged cause due to the inherently disrespectful and anti-American design of the protest itself. The stand of unity is better because it does not appear to be intentionally disrespectful nor unpatriotic by design. Unfortunately, it is performed in the shadow of the failed kneeling protests with a backdrop of identity politics immediately preceding an election. That’s not a recipe for success. The other issue, is exactly as described above. As a symbol, it is received to many as a statement of belief that large swathes of the population are viewed as racist due to the color of their skin. Again, much of that is due to the aforementioned previous symbolic protest. The irony is that means this symbolic display designed to combat racism itself unintentionally becomes racist. That is unfortunate, but a message is only as effective as its reception. Non-racists are tired of being called racist by racists who (probably) don’t realize they’re (probably unintentionally) being racist. It’s all a result of standard identity politics which are divisive by design as they are inherently racist, sexist, classist, etc.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 1:13 pm

 Non-racists are tired of being called racist by racists who (probably) don’t realize they’re (probably unintentionally) being racist. It’s all a result of standard identity politics which are divisive by design as they are inherently racist, sexist, classist, etc.

Well put.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 1:49 pm

well, I can say that I (personally) haven’t said “you’re racist” to anyone specific … yet you seem to be taking deep offense to anything that implies that anyone is racist … not pointing fingers here, but if it’s not directed “specifically” at you, why are you so upset? just curious …

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 2:51 pm

It’s my politics and beliefs that are being attacked by this Leftist insanity.

I’m lumped into the crowd that gets called racist if we don’t believe in this virtue signaling drivel.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 3:05 pm

what may be drivel to you is crucial to the lives of others … you don’t have to “buy into it” but you should have the common decency to understand that it IS important to others

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:07 pm

It’s crucial to peoples lives and they don’t even realize it’s a fabrication to own them mentally. Fucking sad and disgusting.

upamtn
Reply to  Pelletman
09/11/2020 4:55 pm

so nice to know that YOU know everything that happens and is going on in the lives of other people that you’ve never met and you know their mental state and what is or isn’t real in their lives … pretty amazing

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:57 pm

I wait 3+ days….sometimes months for actual information to get it…so yes, I’m informed. What I don’t do is get emotionally enraged and take the immediate narrative that’s pushed and burn down my neighborhood.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 3:08 pm

For example, this politicized social justice nonsense fabricated by the Left will actually get more black people killed because they’re being taught (falsely) that racist cops are hunting them down. That will only lead to more arrests being resisted and more violent outcomes.

Fucking idiots.

zulu trader
zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:26 am

PFF KC Chiefs
@PFF_Chiefs
#Chiefs 2020 Week 1 Highest-Graded Offensive Player: WR Sammy Watkins – 84.3 • 7 Receptions • 82 Yards • 1 Touchdown • 6 First Downs

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upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 11:57 am

woulda thought Clyde the Glide would’ve been top graded … well, wtg Lizard King

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 12:10 pm

Speaking of PFF, I discovered this morning that my basic subscription no longer gives me access to player grades, so what’s the point? I’m probably going to cancel the whole thing, what a rip off.

upamtn
Reply to  Big Chief
09/11/2020 12:12 pm

well THAT sucks … yeah, what IS the point? what DO you get now? (other than screwed)

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Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:21 pm

The privilege of giving them money for nothing and the chicks for free.

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:24 pm

yanno, that … that just ALMOST sounds like … yanno, I bet SOMEONE could make a song about that … maybe

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:34 pm

Nah, it wouldn’t be any good. They would still be forced to do custom kitchen deliveries

upamtn
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:37 pm

this entire thread is devolving into some pretty Dire Straights …

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:57 pm

You rang?

upamtn
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 1:47 pm

sheeeeeeeeesh Dude … we were TRYING no to be so “overtly obvious” (yeah. right)

Leaf
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 4:15 pm

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venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 12:12 pm

Week one Sammy and playoff Sammy is hard to beat.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/11/2020 9:06 am

Undefeated – like the Great & Powerful Oz
Typed many months ago — while drinking Red Kool Aid

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/11/2020 9:07 am

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zulu trader
zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:04 am

Stone Cold with 1.5 sacks in first game !

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upamtn
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 11:58 am

cuz Double-Nickel was in the Texans backfield every other play …

zulu trader
zulu trader
09/11/2020 8:58 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:02 am

PFF
@PFF
Clyde Edwards-Helaire had 106 rushing yards after contact in his NFL debut. No rookie has had more than 95 yards after contact in Week 1 since 2006.

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zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:27 am

James Palmer
@JamesPalmerTV
Clyde Edwards-Helaire’s 138 rush yards and 25 carries were both the most by any KC player in Patrick Mahomes’ career as a starter

NM_ChiefsFan
NM_ChiefsFan
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:29 am

Obviously we no longer need Mahomes.

Leaf
Reply to  NM_ChiefsFan
09/11/2020 9:40 am

True. Cut him now before he becomes too expensive

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 11:35 am

What would Bill O’Brien do?

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/11/2020 12:07 pm

Bravo for this thread, made me laugh.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
09/11/2020 8:58 am

Good game last night. Message sent. You want a championship? Come get it.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
09/11/2020 8:56 am

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Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  probablyamistake
09/11/2020 8:57 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
09/11/2020 8:54 am

James Palmer
@JamesPalmerTV
Patrick Mahomes First 32 Career Games
Wins 25 T-1st
Pass Yards 9,623 1st
Pass TD 79 1st
Passer Rating 109.3 1st

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zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:01 am

Leaf
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:34 am

Pat player his most Alex Smith game to date

workingmansdead
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 9:48 am

Except we knew we weren’t doomed when down 7-0. That’s how we know the difference.

Leaf
Reply to  workingmansdead
09/11/2020 9:54 am

Eh Alex Smith came back From 7 down plenty of times. It’s when down 14+ that the ass checks would pucker up.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 12:00 pm

Or at the end of the game. Pass after pass behind the line of scrimmage.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 9:52 am

And those numbers would be better if Robinson could catch.

Spider
Spider
09/11/2020 8:54 am

It’s great to have Chiefs football back! Team looked good. But I gotta say, something felt different about last night’s game. An empty Arrowhead, terrible commentary unfocused on the game at hand, the incredibly overt focus on social justice-ing complete with defaced end zones… I kind of feel robbed about the way the championship banner/flag presentations were done. Y’all, it just didn’t feel right. (sts)

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 8:56 am

isn’t this a time for rejoicing ?

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 8:57 am

Andrew Brandt
@AndrewBrandt
The NFL and its players talked all offseason about unity, equality and peaceful protest. But, at least in KC, the fans weren’t having it. “Stick to sports” is still a thing.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  zulu trader
09/11/2020 12:50 pm

A time for rejoicing was my expectation.

Leaf
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 9:38 am

The social justice thing didn’t bother me, but it did feel more like a preseason game, which kind of killed some of the luster. Still fun, but it did feel a little off.

kcfreak725
Reply to  Leaf
09/11/2020 10:12 am

I got that same vibe…especially with so many of the rookies playing…it felt like a preseason game.

Spider
Spider
09/11/2020 8:44 am

I’ve been accused of being racist in the past for saying a particular something about various players, but I’m going to say it again so hang on. It’s about to get controversial in here: Our new punter needs a haircut.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 8:47 am

That’s sexist.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  Team Player
09/11/2020 8:55 am

Well played.

NM_ChiefsFan
NM_ChiefsFan
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 9:31 am

I don’t know…I haven’t gotten a haircut since the whole C-19 thing started, so I can identify with the kid. Of course, when I look in the mirror I’m ashamed of myself…but that’s a whole other issue.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  NM_ChiefsFan
09/11/2020 10:28 am

Lol. Do we need an open thread devoted to shame and self-loathing? Seems like a better offseason topic, but better late than never.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  NM_ChiefsFan
09/11/2020 11:22 am

Ha! Me too.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 9:55 am

Leave it as is. Haven’t you heard of Samson?

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 10:19 am

Spider
Spider
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 10:33 am

That’s an intriguing argument. You should write a whole tongue-in-cheek (sts) fan post about how his power is derived from his flowing locks, assuming of course, he turns out to be a worthy replacement of our previous MVP.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 11:19 am

We’ll he’s off to a good start. Love Dustin, but it was time. Good find by Toub. He needs his own cheering section wearing long flowing wigs, sitting in section Tommy’s Town.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 11:32 am

Love you too.

…but I was told dressing up is cultural appropriation and was no longer tolerated in Arrowhead.

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  Spider
09/11/2020 12:08 pm

I cleared in with the spokesman for the long-haired community

upamtn
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 12:10 pm

you didn’t check with me … damn it, man

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  upamtn
09/11/2020 12:15 pm

My apologies. Can I make a donation to your group to receive your support?

upamtn
Reply to  venturachief
09/11/2020 12:25 pm

you betcha … and we can make it tax deductible

now get a job, ya slacker!

Warpath
Warpath
09/11/2020 8:19 am

“WORLD CHAMPIONS”

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Warpath
09/11/2020 8:54 am

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Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  Warpath
09/11/2020 10:26 am

In the RED corner,

Winner and still CHAMPION,

The CHIEFS!!!!

Nasrani
Nasrani
09/11/2020 7:48 am

I hope everyone takes a moment today to remember what happened nineteen years (almost to the minute; the first tower was hit at 8:46 Eastern time) ago.

Never forget.

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zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Nasrani
09/11/2020 8:45 am

thanks Nas

EAFOX
09/11/2020 5:42 am

Here are the bad things that I saw
1) DROB and his drops – hopefully just some rust and/or nerves cause, with all of our weapons, he will be the one who always has single coverage.
2) Erratic linebacker play – I heard Hitch’s name once on a run play and saw Niemann make a couple of errors – one bad angle on a run and abused on a pass play. Need the defensive line to be stout to help on run defense and waiting for Willie Gay to get his opportunity.
3) Goal line running – CEH looked bad on the goal line but he did not have much to work with either. Maybe we need Sherman to become the lead back in a power package.
4) We had some rust but not too much and that is to be expected without preseason. With the exception of Spags dialing up some pressure, we had a pretty vanilla game plan.
5) Went too conservative too quick – the three and out drive with seven minutes left should have went for the jugular but we gave them the slimmest of chances to stay in the game.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  EAFOX
09/11/2020 6:49 am

I feel like the 2nd half was more of a preseason game. I really enjoyed getting to see what our depth could do tho.

paulkcc
paulkcc
Reply to  EAFOX
09/11/2020 10:19 am

The problem on the goal line running, especially in the 4th quarter, was they kept going to the right side. The left side was where the work had been getting done all game.

Pelletman
Pelletman
09/11/2020 5:31 am

What a nice game. DRob kind of shit the bed and I wish we did a little better running the ball on the goal line…but besides those 2 things the guys and coaches were great.

Ward fracturing his hand could be a really big blow to an already depleted CB group.

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