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Chiefs news for January 17, 2022
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Donna Kelce, Mother of Jason, Travis, Attends 2 Playoff Games Thousands Of Miles Apart On Sunday | philiadelphia
An NFL mom pulled double duty on Sunday. Donna Kelce, the mother of Eagles center Jason Kelce and Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce, was on a mission.
Arrowhead Stadium fireworks can’t keep up with Chiefs explosive offense… again! | fox4kc
“Chiefs fan, we are sorry to report but, due to your support and the Chiefs continually finding the endzone, we have run out of touchdown fireworks. Please direct all of your complaints to your nearest fans first booth,” read the message on the big board to fans at Arrowhead.
Travis Kelce’s epic interaction with his mom as she crashes Chiefs postgame press conference | clutchpoints
According to James Palmer, Travis Kelce’s mother made a surprise appearance at his post-game press conference. Not only was she able to watch her son and the Chiefs win on Sunday Night football and act as a sports journalist, but Donna Kelce also watched Jason Kelce play in the Philadelphia Eagles playoff matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
4 takeaways from Chiefs’ playoff win over Steelers | usatoday
Sunday’s win was a resounding success in their effort to clinch a third-straight Super Bowl berth, and just two more games stand between the Chiefs and an opportunity to win a second championship in three years. Pittsburgh was by no means a cupcake opponent, and Kansas City’s ability to dispatch them without breaking a sweat is a sign that their best football could be in store in the coming weeks.
Chiefs make Ben Roethlisberger witness feat never seen before in NFL history | clutchpoints
Tonight the@Chiefs had:
-a RB catch a TD pass
-a WR catch a TD pass
-a TE catch a TD pass
-an OL catch a TD pass
-a TE throw a TD pass
No other team in NFL history has done all of those things in the same season, let alone in one game.
Patrick Mahomes Reveals His Final Message To Ben Roethlisberger | thespun
“I just told him I have so much respect for him,” Mahomes said, via Fox News. “I’ve watched him growing up. The way he plays the game, he competes to the very end. He did that this whole entire season. Who knows what the future is but it was great to be here and witness him.”
Chiefs snap counts: Jerick McKinnon surges to RB1 | yahoo
https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-snap-counts-jerick-mckinnon-174858389.html
The Kansas City Chiefs played a near-even number of snaps on offense and defense in the wild-card round win over the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday. It’s not too surprising given the early game punts and turnovers from both squads. It’s also good from a recovery standpoint as they get ready to host the Buffalo Bills in the divisional round.
How the Chiefs attacked Steelers coverage — and what is says about their Super Bowl chances | yahoo
https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-attacked-steelers-coverage-says-154124490.html
While the Chiefs got off to a slow start, and actually trailed early in the game, their offense got on a role and did not stop. After punting on three of their first five possessions, and turning the ball over on the other two, Kansas City scored a touchdown on their next six possessions to pull away.
Looking at their passing game, the Chiefs seemed to have an answer, particularly as they pulled away, for whatever the Steelers threw at them.
Speed in which Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes threw his TD passes Sunday shattered NFL record | yahoo
https://sports.yahoo.com/speed-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-threw-164924389.html
Patrick Mahomes threw 5 Pass TD in a span of 10:30 of game time. It’s easily the fastest span in NFL postseason history. The next fastest? Tom Brady did it in just under 25 minutes in 2011.
Jerick McKinnon: I just wanted to prove I can get the job done | yahoo
https://sports.yahoo.com/jerick-mckinnon-just-wanted-prove-163225298.html
“Every day you have something to prove in this league,” McKinnon said, via Lila Bromberg of the Kansas City Star. “I knew that I would get a little bit more opportunities than I’ve had in the other games that we played . . . and I just wanted to prove to my teammates and my coaches that I can get the job done.”
Chiefs to carry over roughly $1.3 million in salary-cap space into 2022 | yahoo
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chiefs-carry-over-roughly-1-184040840.html
The Chiefs have $1,322,092 in salary cap space remaining for the 2021 NFL season, and according to ESPN’s Field Yates, they’ve declared the unused cap space for rollover into the 2022 NFL season. This likely won’t be the final number for Kansas City, though. The NFL will do an audit of all incentives, bonuses, and triggers to calculate the final figure that the team will carry over into the 2022 NFL season.
This carryover puts the Chiefs’ salary-cap projections for the upcoming offseason up over the $30 million mark. That’s before the team rids themselves of any bloated contracts (Anthony Hitchens and Frank Clark) and restructures contracts (Patrick Mahomes). The NFL’s salary cap for the 2022 NFL season is set at $208.2 million and when it’s all said and done with, Brett Veach could have upwards of $60 million in cap space to use in free agency.
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Mahomes trivia for #ChiefsKingdom :
-Who are the only 2 NFL teams with a winning record against Mahomes (Regular+Post)?
-Who are the 4 teams with a .500 record against Mahomes?
-Who are the two teams Mahomes has not beaten?
As for where this goes next, I'd say the price will dictate that. Under current circumstances, unlikely KC or Buffalo go get him. If his price drops (both teams offered incentive-heavy deals), then ... maybe.
(Both KC and Buffalo talked directly to Hopkins, and liked him.)
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• The Chiefs and Bills were the only teams to have substantive trade talks with Arizona.
• As was the case with Kansas City, contract was the issue for Buffalo.
• KC made progress, but @OBJ's deal ($15M base) more or less blew that progress up.
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Three Greatest Americans Ever (Please Rank)
John Wayne
Patrick Mahomes
EAFOX
My vote – John Wayne, Patrick Mahomes, EAFOX (He slips to third cause he was married to a very, very large woman)
PS – There is a four way tie for fourth place between Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley, and Peter Criss
Al Bundy has the next spot (He gets several points for making fun of very, very large women.
Abraham Washington
WOW – Did not realize the controversy that would be kicked up with this contest. The goal was to determine who AG believed was the greatest football player ever. Could have simply stopped at a position by position contest and that argument is a fair one. For those who believe that it was rigged somehow to bolster my love for Joe Montana, I point out that I was only one of several votes that advanced him and, if you look at his original matchup against Jim Brown, that does not seem to be a cupcake matchup like some of the players that were matched against a kicker. If you check my votes, I did not exclusively vote for Chiefs players as some did and even voted to eliminate the GOD that is MAHOMES. I put a lot of work into these lists and tournaments and it is a rewarding experience for me. I do not have a monopoly on doing these types of things so feel free to create your own. Negative feedback does not bother me but if it bothers you that much, put in the work and post something of your own – whether it be based on your preferences or something the group gets to vote on. I was probably going to post my personal top hundred players of all time – I thought some of the older players got hosed – and could also do my personal position by position rankings. Better yet, this site could post a poll on the latter. As for my list of musical groups, I honestly tried my best to be fair – I know my love of KISS distracts many of you and I have very little knowledge of groups from the late eighties on. As I said at the time, I look forward to seeing the lists that others would generate but no one decided to do one. Either they were not too worried about it – the vast majority I would say – or did not have the time or energy to pursue it. This site could organize… Read more »
all good, Fox … thinking something in the future would be fun, band BEFORE the 80s or the players thing done differently
but … not right now, there’s too much FOOTBALL going on, thinking after the season (in theory after the Super Bowl) might be a better time for polls and things like that (and any poll is better than a Mock Draft)
One that I am working on involves the most valuable Chiefs of all-time. Not the best but the most valuable based on statistics. I am up to 2010 in terms of compiling the statistics. Neither Joe Montana nor Patrick Mahomes will end up number one on that list
now THIS should be interesting … the stats used, the weight given to this or that stat or to this or that position, etc
neither Mahomes nor Montana have been around long enough, so … KISS I dunno, maybe (but you’re gonna need some ridiculous stats to get ’em to the top)
offhand there’s TonyG, Jamaal Charles, Len Dawson, Alex Smith (nah, couldn’t be) … damn, running outta names (Holmes not around long enough) … Will Shields MAYBE (?) … good luck and have fun
Lets do the worst ever now
See? You never stated that was the goal. Even when asked.
Now that I know that’s what you wanted, Montana isn’t even close. Maybe not top ten.
wow
Just got our tickets for Sunday. Got the hotel figured out, someone to watch the dogs during the game, now just to figure out the tailgate. Can’t wait for this weekend; first game since the divisional game against Houston.
good for you, be SAFE have FUN
There are a few of us that will be there. We will figure out when and where down the stretch
I re-visited the Chiefs’ week 5 game which Buffalo won 38-20. Here are some pertinent details about that game.
Charvarius Ward and Chris Jones were out and did not play
Melvin Ingram was not playing for the Chiefs
Juan Thornhill played just 25 snaps
Willie Gay played 25 snaps (it’s usually in the mid 30’s, sometimes mid 40’s)
Mike Hughes played 18 snaps (usually around 60)
Sorenson gave up two long passes (61yd leading to field goal and 53yd TD)
Mahomes threw an interception for a pick-6 although the short pass over the middle hit Tyreek in both hands
Mahomes’s second interception happened deep in Buffalo territory although the Chiefs got a bit lucky earlier in this drive. Going for it on 4th and 3 on their own 32yd line, the pass was incomplete which would have been a very bad turnover on downs except Buffalo was called for Roughing the Passer, extending the drive.
Buffalo was called for 10 penalties (103 yds), Chiefs were called for 7 penalties (55 yds).
Buffalo is a very good team and I expect a very good game this weekend. Hopefully our defense will be better this time around and we won’t give away 4 turnovers.
you mean the Chiefs DIDN’T lose because of penalties and the refs???
No, usually it’s self inflicted turnovers
Exactly. If they don’t turn it over they win.
Because I don’t know, did the Bills have any front line players out who are back now? I can’t remember any.
I found Snap Count data here
https://www.lineups.com/nfl/snap-counts/defensive-players-snap-counts
It’s pretty easy to limit it to one team amd one-or-more weeks, etc.
I’m not that familiar with the Bills lineups but it looks like Matt Milano OLB and Harrison Phillips DT were out. Also Dane Jackson CB played just 11 snaps although he played a lot the rest of the season…
That stat about Patrick tossing 5 TDs in 10:30 is incredible. Comparing it to the next fastest, it’s in less than half the time. But…
What are they missing here? What isn’t anyone pointing out?
The Steelers had 4 possessions in 10:30, and never held on to the ball.
If the defense can’t get the other team off the field, you can’t throw TDs, and the defense did it 4 times in less than 10 minutes.
That, after how this season started, is amazing.
EDIT: Yes, one was the kneel down to get to the half, but man, that’s still impressive
Yeah agreed! The offense can’t score 5 TD’s in that amount of time without the defense getting them the ball back so quickly.
I did read it was actually 11:31. I’ve also been reading that Tom Brady is next at 25 min, but looked it up and found an article about Flacco doing it in 16 min.
16 min or weeks? 😉
well done, Hoosier
Steve was right early on last night when he said the Rams have game … that was when it was still 7-0 (soon to be 14-0) and well before halftime
Major Congrats to Matt Stafford for his very first Playoff Win (the guy has to be SO thrilled just being gone from Detroit)
Wonder how much the Raiders will be “starting over” next season … enough to set them back a bit and open things for Herbert and the Chargers?
WTG Travis Kelce and MOAR records … let’s do it all over again on Sunday, shall we?
I’d thought about this some, but decided to run some numbers this morning. For all the talk about parity in the league, the average margin of victory in the wildcard round was 17.2 points. And this wasn’t just due to the addition of the 7 seeds as I originally had speculated.
Average Margin of Victory, 2 seed vs. 7 seed: 18.5 points
Average Margin of Victory, 3 seed vs. 6 seed: 18 points
Average Margin of Victory, 4 seed vs. 5 seed: 15 points
So it wasn’t just the 2 seed destroying the 7 seed that was inflating the average; each winner in a seeding bracket beat the opponent by an average of more than two touchdowns. And with the exception of the Cowgirls (which, interestingly enough, was the smallest margin of victory of any game in the wildcard round at 6 points), the higher seed won each game.
I think your numbers are skewed. The other matchups are skewed higher due to 23 & 30 point blow outs. One of each was lopsided, the other was close.
However, in the 2 v 7 matchups, both were 2+ TD margins.
Perhaps with a few seasons of data, your observation will prove correct, but with only one season you can’t really point to “the average” for those games.
I think the cause was we had two teams that skidded their way into the playoffs (Pats and Cards) showing that they didn’t belong any more than the 7s (Steelers and Eagles) did.
Of course those numbers aren’t representative of a long-term trend, as they are just from this one season. And I don’t think they’re likely to continue as we get more seasons and games. My point was just that I heard more than ever this year about the “parity” in the league and how there’s no great teams. And then the playoffs come, and several teams absolutely wipe the floor with lesser teams.
Also, in terms of averages, only two matchups of the six were decided by less than two touchdowns (SF-DAL at 6points and LV-CIN at 7 points).
I think it shows us that the AFC is the better division.
(I had pointed out that the blowouts were both in the NFC, but of course, that’s wrong. I stand by my statement, though. After the top two in both conferences, the AFC is much deeper)
tend to agree AFC is a bit stronger/deeper than NFC … but possibly home-team bias in there
There are many years that the fourth seed does not belong – the winner of a crappy division.
That’s true, too. Where the 5 or 6 is actually better than the 4. Like last year.
I think that in the postseason when the pressure is on, when things go south for a team they really go south. I think guys can handle a close game okay, but when one team pulls away a little bit everyone gets a little tight and afraid to screw up, and it just gets worse.. kind of like RIP’s discussion of momentum a few days ago.
yeah, the “pressure” that players feel, the pressure they put on themselves in those circumstances … being afraid of making a mistake
nailed it
I packed my bags last night,pre-flight , flying to Kansas City at 10:00 am..
And I’m gonna be high…as a kite by then…HOW ABOUT THOSE CHIEFS!!!!
LETS GO !!!!!!!!!!!
rub it in.
LETS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA !!!!!!
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We need a good name for the meet up. It’s more than the 3 Amigos or Tres Hombres now.
From last night – in case you missed it… In lieu of my normal routine, I decided to have a party and invited Big Ben, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, and Derek Carr as well as my ubiquitous ex-wife. Each tried to give me a reason that they were eliminated or did not even qualify for the playoffs but I waved off their pathetic excuses. I said, “Big Ben – you are too old and washed up. Baker – the only good thing you have done is commercials. Lamar – you are a runner, not a passer. Derek – the only one that thinks you are good is your brother, you mascara wearing she-male.” Big Ben hung his head in shame, Baker and Lamar made some incoherent noise and Derek Carr started crying. Carr exclaimed, “I might wear mascara and cry like a bitch but I like both women and men.” At that moment, Mecole Hardman dropped by – I caught Derek before he could hit the floor – and DRob, Josh Gordon, and Byron Pringle joined the party as well. Pringle said, “We played well on Sunday so can we please stay.” I agreed and let them stay. That was a mistake as seconds later Pringle made fun of both Baker and Lamar. They became angry and started to chase Pringle but I intercepted them before they could get to him. Pringle was still afraid so he dove into my ex-wife’s vagina. He was knocked unconscious by the six men already there. I needed to calm down so I started to smoke some weed with Josh Gordon. I had to fill him in on the details of the game as he was not even aware that there was one. I told him to be ready – we have a game this Sunday – and he might have to play since I was sure that Pringle would not escape the clutches of the Never Ending Vagina. After finishing the doobage, I turned and saw Derek Carr standing there alone, crying once more. Derek said, “I hurt my finger when Mecole dropped… Read more »
Your a fuking nut ….???….
You must have really good Ganja.
Must be good as it would be the only explanation why he keeps inviting his ex wife over.
Winner of the Tournament
Joe Montana
Great job with the tournament.,looking forward to the next one …
Congratulations. Now will you explain what that was all about? Popularity contest?
seems to me that’s exactly what it was and all it was … deliberately set-up so Fox could make sure his Main Squeeze (Montana) was the eventual winner
Being old (over 70) I remember watching a lot of the players from the 50s 60s and 70s at their best and at a time when there were some pretty rough scrums (my favorite penalty was “Giving him the business”). Guys would play with broken bones (if I remember right, I believe Jack Youngblood played with a broken leg in a Superbowl), guys like Jack Lambert would terrorize the crap out of you, and there are so many more examples I could give, but my point is that in a contest such as it was, I would tend to mostly pick the old talent because when they played it was a more brutal game, and they had shorter seasons to achieve their greatness. jmho
I have to agree with you, VVet. You can’t really compare YA Tittle to Manning, because no way Manning goes out beat up the way YA was. Different game. Much hard on the players before. I’m not sure that made it better, and that’s a different debate
and Unitas, in all liklihood THE best to ever play the game (on offense) and no stats can convince me otherwise … compared to the guys from the 50’s and 60’s, many of today’s players are pussies
Bednarick would snap Patrick in half like a swizzle stick. Thank god it’s different now
right?
can we at least go back to late 60’s and early 70’s rules? some REAL football …
As soon as Patrick retires, sure
LOL
Uh Mathieu would like a word with you, oh wait he’s the biggest pussy on the team. Little cat that barks
shorter seasons to achieve their greatness
and this^^^ x a bazillion … tougher games, tougher players and fewer games (a 100-yd game rushing used to be a Big Deal)
not to mention that for MOST of those guys, Pro Football was a Second Job … NOW these wussies get a million/year for the WORST guy on the team (that’s what I need! $1,000,000 to go workout, sit in some meetings and then sit on the bench as “inactive” on game day … oh HELL yeah!)
I read a book a long time ago that profiled some old-time stars of the NFL like Y.A. Title, Sammy Baugh, and the galloping ghost Red Grange – well before my time, and other guys, like Deacon Jones, who were around or just earlier than when I started watching in the ‘70s. I am not able to compare them to the more recent players in EAFOX’s tournament so I withheld my votes. I think there’s a lot of recency bias plus maybe we forget just how good guys like Reggie White were. Nevertheless it has been an entertaining exercise to watch unfold.
years ago when the Kansas City Kings (basketball) team were still in KC (and Omaha) one of the players visited the Chiefs at Arrowhead
seems he was saying something about their playbook and all the plays they need to know for basketball … it’s like an inch thick!
so the Chiefs player pulls out HIS playbook which was like TWO phonebooks stacked atop on another … the basketball guy looks at it and doesn’t say another word
Good story and good point.
that’s it? that’s all you got?!?!?!?
dayum, whatta letdown … seriously, I thought (originally) it would be like Best Ever At Each Position … instead it was a drawn-out Prom Queen Favorite Vote thing …. ok, whatever
You got to give the kid some credit for doing this, looks like a lot of effort went into it. I thought it was going to be a positional thing as well, but hey, we had some fun with it. Suggest to him what you would like to see in the future, and if he can do it, we’ll have another series of choices to enjoy.
Yes this. And perhaps we’re culpable too for not pursuing discussions like here today about the older vintage players.
YA Tittle!
to be fair I don’t even remember the guy and RARELY had the chance to see Unitas before he was gone
Sorry re spelling. That book I mentioned was something I read as a young teenager in the early ‘70s. I can’t remember the title but obviously some of the players stuck in my memory. Another one was (IIRC) Jim Thorpe.
Maybe you could come up with something better ups ? Man do you ever say anything positive.?
He put a lot of work into this , it kept us some what entertained. And kept the comments up ..
Rip, I don’t think anyone is saying that we don’t appreciate the effort. The question is, and was, What is it that we are voting on? What is/was the premise of this contest? If you’re going to put that much work into something (which he clearly did), you should know what it’s about.
When you start comparing QBs to MLBs and OL, what else can it be other than a popularity contest?
I’ll bet if some parameters were put out (Consider the impact each player had on his team/the position/etc), the results would have been different. But just tossing out names and saying “Vote, please” gives you nothing.
what Nova said … and a few times I did indeed ask why he was asking us to vote on RB v QB or whatever, and the answer was always silence: no explanation of what the whole thing was in advance or even during … IOW: vote for someone something that you have no clue what the final objective is supposed to be … moreover, never ever not eve ONE time did I say that what Fox was doing was NOT a lot of work (then too, it’s similar to his Best Band thing, predetermined and other than sparking conversation (a good thing) the exercise was pointless)
as for “gee, ups, why can’t you ever be positive?” … well, how about turning that same, lame “comment/accusation” or whatever around and asking many MANY others here why they can’t be even a LITTLE more realistic and stop with the “Mahomes is the best ever, he’s a GOD” and “The Chiefs are always the best and simply can’t lose unless the Refs” and on and on and on, whining like PUSSIES about the tiniest little shit, constantly …
you can’t always get what you want, especially as a fan … how about some on here just DEAL With it instead of whining and bitching like 12 year old girls all butthurt and shit (and yes, I’m POSITIVE that’s what’s happening, so there’s your POSITIVITY for today, RIP)