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Chiefs punter Tommy Townsend shines in Sunday’s win over Green Bay | kshb

https://www.kshb.com/sports/chiefs-punter-tommy-townsend-shines-in-sundays-win-over-green-bay

Townsend finished with five punts downed inside the 20-yard line.

“The punts were the punts and they landed where they landed, but at the end of the day, the defense made plays and they were the ones that really shut out Green Bay,” Townsend said.

Chiefs’ pass rush responds with DE Melvin Ingram III added to mix | kshb

https://www.kshb.com/sports/chiefs-pass-rush-responds-with-de-melvin-ingram-iii-added-to-mix

Ingram bull-rushed right tackle Billy Turner into Jordan Love’s lap, forcing the Packers’ backup quarterback — who started with Aaron Rodgers sidelined after testing positive for COVID-19 — to throw an incompletion.

There was no quarterback hit recorded on the play, but Ingram made his presence felt despite limited chances to get reps in Kansas City’s system and develop a rapport with his teammates.

The Kansas City Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes Throws For His Fewest Yards In A Game | forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jefffedotin/2021/11/07/the-kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-throws-for-his-fewest-yards-in-a-game/?sh=6347ab63eb5f

His 166 passing yards on 20-of-37 attempts in the 13-7 victory against the Green Bay Packers was his lowest passing yardage of his career — with the exception of a Week Seven game against the Denver Broncos in 2019, in which Mahomes sustained knee injury and couldn’t finish the game.

Chiefs HC Andy Reid provides injury updates after win over Packers | usatoday

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chiefs-hc-andy-reid-provides-013814296.html

There are always things that can pop up during the week, but Chiefs HC Andy Reid only had one injury to report on following the conclusion of the game. That injury was to second-year right tackle Lucas Niang, who exited the game early on. He was deemed questionable to return with a rib injury and he never returned to the game.

Chiefs stock watch: Which players impressed during Week 9 | usatoday

The Kansas City Chiefs hosted the Green Bay Packers without their leader Aaron Rodgers on Sunday. The Chiefs defense performed admirably, holding Green Bay scoreless through three quarters, eventually securing a 13-7 victory in Week 9 of the 2021 NFL season.

The Chiefs’ offense struggled to find a consistent groove and relied heavily on the defense. Here’s a look at how the stock is trending for some players after Week 9.

5 takeaways from Chiefs’ Week 9 win over Packers | usatoday

In many ways the Kansas City Chiefs’ 13-7 win over the Packers in Week 9 was uninspiring, but a win is a win in this NFL. The team is back above .500 for the first time in months and they did just enough to pull out ahead almost in spite of themselves. The razor-thin margin of victory tells the story of a team that struggled and overcame in pursuit of a big win.

Kansas City didn’t play the brand of football many have come to expect from them, but showed some life on defense that carried the team in all four quarters. It was a war of attrition from the opening kick, and a worthy feather in the Chiefs’ cap after so many setbacks to start their season.

L’Jarius Sneed Knows Chiefs Can Improve on Defense: ‘We Haven’t Arrived Yet’ | si.com

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gameday/ljarius-sneed-knows-kc-chiefs-can-improve-on-defense-we-havent-arrived-yet

Sneed and the Chiefs’ defense did a very good job limiting weapons such as Davante Adams, a player who has a legitimate case for being the top wide receiver in the NFL. On 14 targets, the All-Pro wideout registered six catches for just 42 yards. Kansas City’s defensive line also showed up, putting Love under pressure all afternoon and into the evening. When asked about whether the defense has arrived as a group, Sneed said there’s room for even more improvement.

Chiefs snap counts: Melvin Ingram plays 29 snaps in Week 9 debut | yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chiefs-snap-counts-melvin-ingram-151902557.html

Given the Kansas City Chiefs’ struggles to sustain drives offensively, it’s a bit surprising that the snap counts on offense and defense were so even this week. The offense played just two fewer snaps to the defense on Sunday, even if it felt like the defense was on the field for much longer.

KC Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes saw Travis Kelce wide open. Here’s why he threw it elsewhere | kansas.com

https://www.kansas.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article255646081.html

Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes saw the same thing you probably did — his tight end, Travis Kelce, standing wide open over the middle of the field, hands up and awaiting the ball at the first-down marker. Mahomes elected instead to launch a deep ball to wide receiver Mecole Hardman that fell incomplete. The broadcast Sunday took an extra moment to highlight Kelce with a yellow circle on the telestrator because, goodness, how could you miss him when he was that open? Mahomes didn’t.

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EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
11/09/2021 1:32 pm

FYI – If you are in the KC area and saw on the news about the student stabbed, that is the high school I work at.

MasterChief
MasterChief(@masterchief)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 1:55 pm

Holy crap. I hope the student is ok.

EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
Reply to  MasterChief
11/09/2021 4:21 pm

Student was stabbed 38 times with a pair of scissors by his ex-girlfriend and her brother – whom he was fighting at the time. The student who was stabbed had went to the girls house the night before – with his mom – and threatened them with a gun.

EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
Reply to  MasterChief
11/09/2021 4:22 pm

The student is expected to be okay – might lose part of his ear – was stabbed in the face, neck, chest, and back.

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 3:33 pm

I’m not and I didn’t … just be careful and hope things get worked out etc etc

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
11/09/2021 11:51 am

the team is back above .500 for the first time in months and they did just enough to pull out ahead almost in spite of themselves. The razor-thin margin of victory tells the story of a team that struggled and overcame in pursuit of a big win

makes me think of the Steelers: winning only because the other teams was worse at just the right (or wrong) time(s)

zulu trader
zulu trader(@zulu-trader)
11/09/2021 10:44 am

Melvin Ingram might turn the D line into a real thing. With his pressure on one side, where there was none (i.e. Okafor), it frees up Jones/Clark

MasterChief
MasterChief(@masterchief)
Reply to  zulu trader
11/09/2021 11:10 am

Maybe it was my imagination, but he really seemed to make them all play better as a unit.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs(@novachiefs)
Reply to  MasterChief
11/09/2021 11:16 am

What is Suggs doing these days? Rotate him and Ingram, play the others normally, sweet.

3rdnlong
3rdnlong(@3rdnlong)
Reply to  zulu trader
11/09/2021 11:55 am

I was so frustrated when we kept Alex Okafor and let Emmanuel Ogbah walk.

Big Chief
Big Chief(@big-chief)
Reply to  3rdnlong
11/09/2021 12:09 pm

They didn’t let Ogbah walk, he got a better deal than we could match. We couldn’t justify paying even more on our D line than we already do.

zulu trader
zulu trader(@zulu-trader)
Reply to  Big Chief
11/09/2021 1:58 pm

^^^ This

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  Big Chief
11/09/2021 3:34 pm

what, $50 Bazillion on the Clark & Jones Show is too much?

ArrowFan
ArrowFan(@arrowfan)
11/09/2021 8:57 am

I also just checked and yes another game was decided by the zebras last night on a judgment call no less.

Nasrani
Nasrani(@nasrani)
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/09/2021 9:20 am

I just saw a snippet where the refs admit a mistake in the Michigan-Michigan State game. They initially ruled a play a strip-sack, fumble recovery for a touchdown, but during the game they overturned it. Now they come out and say they were right the first time.

Stuckinpackland
Stuckinpackland(@stuckinpackland)
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/09/2021 9:31 am

It was 100% taunting

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  Stuckinpackland
11/09/2021 10:47 am

Should be a 5 yard penalty. These are professionals not high schoolers

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/09/2021 11:12 am

should be more BECAUSE they’re “professionals” … as in “shut up and play the game” and “act like you’ve been there before” … what the hell happened to “class” and “sportsmanship in sports”

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  upamtn
11/09/2021 12:29 pm

So you’re in favor of flagging all celebrations also?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/09/2021 12:30 pm

Maybe we should enforce on field penalties for Twitter taunting during the week?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  upamtn
11/09/2021 12:35 pm

Its Raiders week. Fuck sportsmanship

zulu trader
zulu trader(@zulu-trader)
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/09/2021 1:59 pm

Fuck the raiders

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs(@novachiefs)
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/09/2021 11:17 am

Plus the called back TD on a legal block

ArrowFan
ArrowFan(@arrowfan)
11/09/2021 8:55 am

I just checked and yes Hardman just dropped another pass and Sorenson just gave up another Touchdown.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs(@novachiefs)
11/09/2021 8:22 am

Poor poor pitiful Aaron. The guy is the biggest Prima Donna in the game. And we are all focused on OBJ, so that’s saying something.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/09/report-aaron-rodgers-feels-like-hes-being-crucified/

Leaf
Leaf(@leaf)
Reply to  NovaChiefs
11/09/2021 9:31 am

No, the biggest Prima Donna in the game is easily Brady.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs(@novachiefs)
Reply to  Leaf
11/09/2021 11:14 am

Sorry. The crown has been passed

Stuckinpackland
Stuckinpackland(@stuckinpackland)
11/09/2021 8:20 am

Does anyone else think that maybe Pat’s foot is still messed up or that it doesn’t feel right to him when planting to throw? Seems that’s the only reasonable explanation for his accuracy woes. It also seems that Bienemy is calling more of the plays than Reid. That to me explains some of the “out of sync” we see with the offense and possibly the reason we don’t see Reid on the bench with mahomes after every possession. 🤷‍♂️

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  Stuckinpackland
11/09/2021 8:24 am

Bienemy’s stock is way down this year. Not sure he could get a hc job at north dakota state this offseason.

Stuckinpackland
Stuckinpackland(@stuckinpackland)
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/09/2021 8:38 am

Kinda my point…I think Andy needs to take back play calling full time.

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  Stuckinpackland
11/09/2021 11:36 am

saw where Mahomes was saying he didn’t pass to a wide open Kelce because he wanted to try the 50 yarder to Hardman instead … risk/reward but in tht case, all risk and no reward

stop blaming everyone EXCEPT Mahomes when Mahomes is the main “out of sync” piece on the Offense … not sayin’ it’s ALL Mahomes, but dayum: seen more excuses for shitty QB play the last month than ever in my life and it’s ridiculous

3rdnlong
3rdnlong(@3rdnlong)
Reply to  hoosierchief
11/09/2021 11:58 am

Mahomes always did better on the run and scrambling away, then finding a wide open guy, than he ever did standing in the pocket. We gave him a great O-line for standing in the pocket, but go back and check the tape. He was much more efficient when everything had broken down and coverages were trying to figure out what to do.

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  3rdnlong
11/09/2021 3:39 pm

… and when our own guys were trying to figure out what to do … I mean it was “street ball” (ok, y’all run around and get open someplace and I’m a hit one of ya’s somewhere sooner or later, ok? ok, everyone scramble … on three!

reminds me of a very young John Elway who did exactly the same thing when he first started … hellaciously strong arm, and saw Elway scramble to the right and sorta stop then throw about 70 yards downfield to the LEFT sideline … absolute monster pass, and for awhile it worked

then the Broncos figured out they really DID need a RB … enter Clinton Portis or whoever they got … and THAT’S when they started winning Super Bowls (with Elway)

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11(@gonzangkc11)
11/09/2021 7:29 am

Nick Wright on FoxSports1 — First Things First
is a KC native

OBJ to Chiefs or Packers, makes sense. If the teams want a player, Salary Cap $$ will appear. We’ll soon find out where OBJ lands.

He saying the same thing, Chiefs don’t have a #2 WR, Hardman is worst than contending team #3 or #4 WR. i.e. Bills, Cowboys, Cowboys, Rams, Chargers….even the Broncos, if they make it in the playoffs

Hardman & Robinson are BOZO’s – and not just BOZO’s this year, since they joined Chiefs

EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
11/09/2021 6:15 am

Darrel Williams is not a feature back. He gives it his all but he is limited. I am actually excited that MEH-CEH will return soon since the team is reluctant to give Gore more snaps. I hope we keep all four running backs on the roster as well. McKinnon has shown that he can contribute and I wonder why he has not seen more reps as well.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11(@gonzangkc11)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 7:25 am

CEH is a BUST (no vision), can’t power run between tackles

Budahmon
Budahmon(@budahmon)
Reply to  gonzangkc11
11/09/2021 7:39 am

In retrospect….who else did they have to draft at that level
…Pitman
…point is that wasnt a very deep draft. Hell, I dont think Veach drafts well, but looking at that class I think that was the best he could do.

3rdnlong
3rdnlong(@3rdnlong)
Reply to  Budahmon
11/09/2021 7:49 am

That’s why we should have kept Damien Williams instead of letting him walk.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  3rdnlong
11/09/2021 8:27 am

Darrel, Damien meh

3rdnlong
3rdnlong(@3rdnlong)
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/09/2021 11:59 am

I don’t know. Damien to me seemed like the kind of back that got better each time he touched the ball. Darrel to me seems like a guy that runs into the backs of his O-line most times.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  3rdnlong
11/09/2021 12:34 pm

Darrel is better at getting the tough few yards. Damien obviously had the break away speed. Honestly neither of them are anything special.

Stuckinpackland
Stuckinpackland(@stuckinpackland)
Reply to  Budahmon
11/09/2021 8:17 am

Uh Jonathon Taylor?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater(@denverdonkeyhater)
Reply to  Stuckinpackland
11/09/2021 8:28 am

Dobbins too right?

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  Budahmon
11/09/2021 11:46 am

in retrospect, the Chiefs should stop asking the players who they should draft (there were what, like 5 or 6 Safeties who went in 2nd round, any of them MIGHT have been an upgrade over – dare I say it? – Daniel Fucking Sorensen)

RB’s are STILL a dime a dozen (outside of a VERY limited few like Henry) and a #32 pick should net more than a basic RB, and that’s what CEH is

TCHchiefs
TCHchiefs(@tchchiefs)
Reply to  gonzangkc11
11/09/2021 8:56 am

That’s a bit strong to say bust. His best running comes between the tackles, he doesn’t seem to have the speed to run the outside stretch, etc.

KCChef
KCChef(@kcchef)
Reply to  TCHchiefs
11/09/2021 11:08 pm

When we drafted him , he was hailed as a receiving threat …Seems to me Reid / Bienemy have failed miserably in making that a reality … : (

EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
11/09/2021 6:10 am

If we stand pat – no OBJ and no roll of the dice with another FA and no promotion of Fountain – the Chiefs have to pick a number two and number three from the posse of clowns that we have and move forward. Hardman has to be number three – I am tough on him and his turnovers and drops have cost us – but he is the one with the most talent and can have an impact on the game. Catching passes over the middle could help solve the struggles with two deep safeties and Hardman has the speed to make a difference. I would roll with Gordon as number two – Not sure why he has not made an impact – but, from pure talent, he rates above the other two. Maybe Andy and EB need to simplify what they are asking the receivers to do to help Gordon catch on.

upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 11:40 am

ICP! (to be fair, I loathe the band, but since you started it …)

EAFOX
EAFOX(@eafox)
11/09/2021 5:58 am

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe today is the day that OBJ will go thru waivers and we will see if any team pulls the trigger on him with a higher salary. If he does clear waivers, I wonder if the Chiefs will go after him – I would go as high as five million for the year. Unless the Chiefs go shopping among the free agents left out there – John Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, Golden Tate and such – this will probably be the last opportunity to upgrade the receiver position. The only other option is to promote Fountain and work him into the rotation but the Chiefs have been reluctant to do so. OBJ might be an asshat and you would not want him long term but, talent-wise, he is a clear upgrade over the collection of crap that we have.

3rdnlong
3rdnlong(@3rdnlong)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 7:51 am

A cancer who can catch – when he’s willing to play so he can be the center of attention – is not worth 5 million bucks. Not like we have the money anyway.

Last edited 2 months ago by 3rdnlong
upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  3rdnlong
11/09/2021 11:41 am

this^^^

Nasrani
Nasrani(@nasrani)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 9:23 am

I wouldn’t mind kicking the tires on Fitzgerald, if the price is right. Great player, and unlike OBJ he isn’t a locker room cancer.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation, that’s true, but the last two players of ours who formerly played for Arizona (Sherman and Suggs) were on our team when we won the Super Bowl.

Make it happen, Cap’n!

Last edited 2 months ago by Nasrani
upamtn
upamtn(@upamtn)
Reply to  EAFOX
11/09/2021 11:19 am

ain’t hap’nin’

if he clears waivers he’s still like 3-4 M and Chiefs no have even close to that much space … moreover, he’s a prima donna asshat clownshow who shouldn’t have the privilege of making huge money in the NFL (the world needs more class and sportsmanship)

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