Morning Huddle – Post-MNF Chiefs “Drop” an Ugly One Tuesday Short Form Edition

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Good morning Chiefs Kingdom! Grab yourself a cup o’ Joe and get in the Huddle!

Chiefs news for November 21, 2023

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Good morning AG!

Today in Chiefs history:  Jack Rudnay was born in 1947
 
Today in Other history:  Michael Strahan born (1971);  in 1949 Bill Veeck sells MLB Cleveland Indians for $22 million, to fund his divorce settlement;  Goldie Hawn born (1945);  in 1931 Horror film “Frankenstein” is released, starring Boris Karloff as the monster;  Stan Musial born (1920);  in 1818 Russia’s Tsar Alexander I petitions for a Jewish state in Palestine;  Voltaire born (1694)
 

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times …

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

…  and then THIS happened

 

 

 

 

There are, of course, stats for EVERYTHING

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

… and there’s a reason for everything (just not always a good reason)

 

 

… yeah, this …

 

 

However, not all is lost (yet)

 

 

 

***Ed Note:  as game was “late” not much “news” but … on to Vegas, so …

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rip58
11/21/2023 3:17 pm

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 12:07 pm

Today’s Chiefs press conference STREAMING LIVE NOW

https://www.youtube.com/live/AB-0SYA1BKs?si=1QVxW89CbX2XPqBT

kcfreak725
11/21/2023 11:03 am

Like I said last night, it’s hard for me to picture most of these WRs coming back next season with the way they’ve been playing so far. MVS was a hero in that AFC Championship game…you wouldn’t know it now. Moore has proven nothing, as has Toney (though they did try to utilize him differently last night and it seemed to be working until they got away from that). Rice has definitely shown promise and Kelce is Kelce, but he ain’t getting younger. Watson has been more consistent, but even he hasn’t escaped the drops. You almost need to overhaul the whole group. I’m not confident in this group getting us through the playoffs right now.

Nasrani
Reply to  kcfreak725
11/21/2023 11:10 am

To offer a little bit of positivity:

Rice is a rookie, and is already playing at a consistently better level than Skyy Moore, so I expect that he will improve when he gets more experience. Watson was taken on a cheap deal, and as others say, is serviceable – probably doing as well as, if not slightly better than, expected given what we paid for him.

Moore and Toney need to get it together. MVS is probably gone after this season.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Nasrani
11/21/2023 11:28 am

MVS is gone after this season unless he plays like Jerry Rice in the playoffs.

Skyy is toast. Cut our losses and call washington back up.

NovaChiefs
11/21/2023 10:03 am

OK! My meager attempt at positivity!
We are 7-3, holding at least a share of the AFC #1 seed.
We have lost to the #1 AND 2 teams in the NFC by a total of 5 points. Our only other loss was in the thin air in Denver with at least a QB with the flu and when we give them 5 extra chances with turnovers.
If we can revert to form, that gives us 9 games to get it straight and get ready for the #1 team in the NFC, which may not be either of the teams that beat us.

That’s all I got.
Back to rightful whining about how bad they looked after halftime

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  NovaChiefs
11/21/2023 10:08 am

Wasnt long ago I told people “you have to score 30 to beat the chiefs.” It was correct 98% of the time. Its hard to come to grips with the fact that this offense is not even average. The defense is great and exceeding expectations and I love it. But the offense is just not good….

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/21/2023 10:19 am

It is hard to grip.. this offense is indeed horrible, drops, incorrect routes, fumbles, Pat missing open receivers (probably wouldn’t do any good anyway)..
This team just doesn’t have the “it” factor this year.. seems the focus is more about self-promotion with all the commercials, swift BS etc.

Just my two cents

hoosierchief
Reply to  KCRowdy
11/21/2023 10:23 am

just thing what our record would be if our defense was playing like they normally did a few years ago.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy
Reply to  hoosierchief
11/21/2023 10:28 am

Can you say last place?

Being a Chiefs fan since SB IV, it’s been a long tuff road. Love the Reid tenure obviously, but again, this year I don’t seeing us being a true contender..

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  hoosierchief
11/21/2023 10:35 am

3-7. I think we would be 3-7 with our defense from 2 years ago. 5-5 at best with last years defense.

Id say adjust and accret who we are until we can get competent receivers. Play martyball but I dont think Andy can do that. Its just not in him.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/21/2023 1:49 pm

We’re 8th in yards per game and 6th in passing yards.

It’s the drops and penalties, both at crucial times that are killing us. Several occasions where silly plays were called hasn’t helped.

With 2 crucial catches, we’d be 9-1 right now.

Skyy might be falling be the sky isn’t.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  MasterChief
11/21/2023 2:29 pm

Scoring is middle of the pack and down 7 pts on avg from last year. Yards per game is down 50 yards per game. Bulge but not burst offense?

Honestly the biggest difference is turnovers. We’ve given the ball away 19 times. Only gave it away 23 times all of last year.

I would think too with our defense being so much better we’d get the ball more and score more points. Maybe take some more chances but score more.

Nasrani
11/21/2023 9:05 am

Fire Pioli, bench Cassel.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
11/21/2023 9:03 am

Tony Romo is in love with Hurts.

Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
11/21/2023 9:03 am

Well, my coffee takes like crap this morning as expected.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
11/21/2023 9:01 am

The positive side of this is what we’ve learned is the only ones that can beat us is us. So we got that going for us.

Nasrani
Reply to  probablyamistake
11/21/2023 9:04 am

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KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  probablyamistake
11/21/2023 9:06 am

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Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  probablyamistake
11/21/2023 10:29 am

… and against us

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
11/21/2023 8:55 am

How about that Defense? At least they are playing at a Super Bowl level. We could really use Bolton right now. How far along is he with his recovery?

NovaChiefs
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/21/2023 9:57 am

I always thought that if we could give Mahomes a mid-level D we’d be unstoppable.
Shows what I know.

Nasrani
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/21/2023 10:00 am

While having Bolton back would be nice, Tranquill is handling the role with aplomb.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
Reply to  Nasrani
11/21/2023 10:26 am

Tranquill has been awesome probably the best FA of the offseason. Adding Bolton will just make the D better.

NovaChiefs
11/21/2023 8:48 am

I have always said that Mahomes could make any receiver look good. I was wrong

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  NovaChiefs
11/21/2023 9:50 am

Maybe with stickum

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
11/21/2023 10:30 am

Coach!!!! It looks like I just jacked off an elephant!

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Team Player
11/21/2023 10:36 am

Skyy moores big hands might be good for something

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
11/21/2023 8:40 am

Just go with 2 and 3 TE sets they can at least catch the ball.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/21/2023 8:49 am

First drop of the game was Gray’s

NovaChiefs
Reply to  Team Player
11/21/2023 9:58 am

Kelce had a big drop and a fumble

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
11/21/2023 8:33 am

Multiple missed applied versions of the rules in this game to many to not be suspect. For example the 4th and forever was PI and wasn’t flagged.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  ArrowFan
11/21/2023 8:36 am

Officiating tends to be equal opportunity awful. Bad to both sides. The one clear trend I have found is they tend to be kinder to the team that is losing.

Team Player
Team Player
11/21/2023 8:28 am

I’m sort of torn here. MVS and Watson are the same players they were in GB and TB.

So there is a scouting problem. At the same time running the wrong routes halfway through the season indicates poor coaching.

It may be both, which would explain Skyy not becoming the player they expected

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 8:25 am

LET THIS SINK IN

Chiefs have scored 8 more points this season than Broncos

Leaf
Reply to  gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 8:55 am

Fire Patrick. Fire Andy. Fire BV

Leaf
Reply to  Leaf
11/21/2023 8:56 am

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Warpath
Warpath
11/21/2023 8:05 am

“WORLD CHAMPIONS”

Nasrani
Reply to  Warpath
11/21/2023 8:56 am

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Wichita Chief
Wichita Chief
Reply to  Nasrani
11/21/2023 8:59 am

Seems so far away.

Nasrani
Reply to  Wichita Chief
11/21/2023 9:00 am

Yes it does. It’s been a weird year.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 7:48 am

Steelers FIRE offensive coordinator

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 7:38 am

It’s just a game, not life.

If us fans are this frustrated….. how does Patrick Mahomes feel

Fingers crossed 🤞 wr figure it out. Wr have been playing together since MAY (mini camp) = which is 7 months

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 8:03 am

Definitely hoped to see improvement. Not regression like we are seeing with them playing together.

Nasrani
11/21/2023 7:33 am

Morning coffee
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gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 7:33 am

Chiefs remaining schedule

@ LV
@ GB
Buff
@ NE
LV
CINN
@ LAC

This year probably most important for Chiefs to lock up #1 seed.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 7:35 am

Looking @ Bal, Mia, Jags….remaining schedule. These teams have same record as Chiefs. Bal 8-3 (has a upcoming bye week)

All have more tougher remaining games than Chiefs.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
11/21/2023 7:27 am

Positive from game…..finally seeing Andy call RUNNING plays, all night

168 rushing yards
Chiefs had 100 more TOTAL yards

Chiefs 2 turnovers, of course hurt

Still would like to see quick slant passes & bootlegs

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