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Good Morning AG! today in history, Abner Haynes was born in 1937, Dino Mangiero in 1958,Ryan Succop in1986… Lets huddle up and talk!

USC football coaching search: Kansas City Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy would be ‘seriously interested’ in Trojans | 247sports

https://247sports.com/Article/USC-football-coaching-search-Kansas-City-Chiefs-Eric-Bieniemy-seriously-interested-Trojans-171344212/

“Bieniemy grew up in Southern California, went to high school not too far from campus, and has been familiar with the program his entire life,” La Canfora wrote Sunday in a published report. “In January, the longtime Andy Reid assistant once again had numerous interviews for NFL head coaching positions, though the timing of another Chiefs run to the Super Bowl played some role in his return, with the league’s rules about when coaches can be hired still seemingly arcane to some. Timing could again be an issue should USC want to complete its hire by Thanksgiving or so for recruiting purposes, but it is one of a few select college openings Bieniemy would be open to, I’m told, if the process played out in the right manner.”

NFL Top 5 Power Rankings in Week 2 | si.com

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/editorial-opinion/nfl-top-five-power-rankings-week-2

 A new legacy is dawning. Jameis Winston could not have written a better opening to his inaugural season as Saints’ starting quarterback. The New Orleans Saints brought the hot sauce on offense and defense and kept the heat on Aaron Rodgers on Sunday’s opener. Rodgers’ offseason saga may have been too much of a distraction for Green Bay after all. 

WATCH: Chiefs receivers tackle Ravens WR Sammy Watkins in pregame warmups | yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/watch-chiefs-receivers-tackle-ravens-235319871.html

Ahead of the game, during pregame warmups, Chiefs receivers Tyreek HillMecole Hardman and Demarcus Robinson ran up to Watkins. They acted like they were just going to dap him up and hug him, but they all three combined to playfully and safely tackle him to the ground.

Patrick Mahomes throws first ever September interception, and a Ravens rookie set him up | yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/patrick-mahomes-throws-first-ever-030406751.html

And then, with 2:09 left in the third quarter against Baltimore, Mahomes’ magic streak came to an end — and it was due to the efforts of a rookie edge defender who did three things perfectly to force Mahomes into an unfortunate throw. Odafe Oweh, the Penn State alum who the Ravens selected with the 31st overall pick (which they got from the Chiefs in the pre-draft trade for left tackle Orlando Brown Jr.), had a brilliant rep all around.

Chiefs fumble comeback effort in 36-35 loss to Ravens |wibu

https://www.wibw.com/2021/09/20/chiefs-fumble-comeback-effort-36-35-loss-ravens/

The Ravens trailed by 11 points in the fourth quarter. The team went on to score 12-straight points and took the lead with a one-yard touchdown run by Lamar Jackson.

Lamar Jackson and the Ravens stun the Chiefs with 4th quarter comeback | yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/ravens-chiefs-lamar-jackson-nfl-032337186.html

Jackson led the Ravens back from an 11-point deficit, led two brilliant fourth-quarter drives, capped both off with touchdown runs, and beat Patrick Mahomes for the first time in his career. He somersaulted into the end zone on the second, and hurled the ball up into the air after giving his team a 36-35 lead with just over three minutes remaining.

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ArrowFan
ArrowFan
09/20/2021 1:37 pm

The field goal before half was huge as well. They should have never even gotten close to kicking that and yet we let them pick up a 2nd and forever with a little draw play? As well as numerous opportunities to stop the clock with no time-outs.

Last edited 1 month ago by ArrowFan
DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 12:38 pm

I cant stop watching that clip of the last play in the tweets. I mean dear lord Nieman really… really… really…. WTF!?!?

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
09/20/2021 10:23 am

QB option Football I guess is just to old school for the NFL to figure out. The number 1 rule is someone always has the QB no matter what goes on with hand-offs. I saw it all night long it didn’t matter who the player was CJ, Bolton, whoever had the edge, the game plan of having a player be responsible for both an RB and the QB isn’t going to work regardless of who the QB is. Back in my day on every play before the snap of the ball either the CB, DE, or OLB calls out responsibility for the QB, depending upon alignment and assignment. Whoever has the QB must then just either tackle him or pop him in the face letting him know had you kept the ball I had you. This isn’t a complicated concept. Had it been just one player messing up all night we could place the blame on him. However, this happened to everyone on the edge. To me, this is all in the game plan and Spags. It may appear that CJ just cannot handle DE, but I say it has more to do with Spags not knowing how to game plan against the QB option. As soon as the option is coming someone goes right after the QB on every play, if a QB is going to play like a running back then he needs to get treated like one.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  ArrowFan
09/20/2021 11:31 am

I would give that job to Bolton. Kid seems to have a knack for following the ball, so focusing on one player should be easy. Plus, he seems quick enough to minimize damage.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
09/20/2021 8:40 am

EmbarrAZZing:

  • Chiefs D is giving up 7.56 yard – PER PLAY
  • LET THAT SINK IN
  • Chiefs are spending 25% of their 2021 cap on the DEFENSIVE LINE. Highest % in THE LEAGUE = THREE (clucking sacks), in 2 games

Dirty Dan got burned on that M. Brown blown play. Yes, Dan got a blitz package sack. Dan Sorensen & Ben Niemann are TOO Slow, re-watch the game (without Chiefs glasses on). And we are talking about THIS YEAR, not 2018, 2019, 2020 (remember when he did this in 2018, 2019, 2020…….).

Hitchens is Juice’d In – Spags begged him to join Chiefs, so Hitchens isn’t going anywhere.

Solutions:

  • Thornhill for Dan
  • Willie Gay for Niemann – in 2 more weeks
  • Chris Jones BACK on interior, not Edge (Jones doesn’t know how to play The Run)….or rotate him from interior to Edge
  • Re-sign Taco (Frank Clark bff) – i.e. Hardman & Robinson
  • Call up GORE (aka: Priest 2.0) to active roster – Williams is TOO Slow
  • Is it TOO EARLY to have a Players only meeting?

We are onto the Chargers!

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gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/20/2021 9:12 am

on FoxSports1 & ESPN talking heads = CEH is too small of a RB

Time to put GORE on active roster!!

Snafu
Reply to  gonzangkc11
09/20/2021 9:37 am

Was the blown play really on Dan? He was so far out of position, and Matthieu was the one who vacated the area to come up in run support.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Snafu
09/20/2021 1:38 pm

I’ve re-watch the game, twice now (joys up getting up @ 330am) 🙂
Mathieu tossed both hands in the air @ Dan — like WTF!

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 8:15 am

So god awful collinsworth was talking about their WRs blocking last night. They went to the replay and it was Hitchens getting owned by a WR. I mean if he can get blocked by a WR then he’s useless as a LB. Is this happening consistently?

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 8:17 am

1) Collinsworth is an idiot who’s in love with Tom Brady, and all of us in Chiefs Kingdom should stop listening to him (seriously, we have the best radio guy in the business, why do we give Collinsworth the time of day?)*
2) Knowing Collinsworth, such things were getting blown out of proportion, as he has the tendency to not only beat a dead horse, but to bet on it, throughout the game.
3) We need to get Willie Gay back. He and Bolton are going to be a dominant LB corps in years to come.

*Watch the TV picture but don’t have your sound on, and head to the Chiefs Radio Network website. That way you don’t have to listen to the blathering numbskulls that the Chiefs always seem to get saddled with.

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DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Nasrani
09/20/2021 8:21 am

I mean obviously Nieman is awful and needs to be replaced, but we dont have a replacement for Hitchens. Of course if he gets owned by wrs, we might as well move dan to LB and play thornhill at safety. At least dirty dan is real football player.

Stuckinpackland
Stuckinpackland
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 8:28 am

I’d tread lightly there with that one lol one is diarrhea and the other is is slightly more solid pile of steaming shit

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DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Stuckinpackland
09/20/2021 8:34 am

The more I think about it. I think you bench Hitchens and let Nieman play. Hitchens is making big bucks and is supposed to be a leader. 50% Hitchens may be better than 110% nieman but at least nieman tries. This defense needs an attitude adjustment.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
09/20/2021 7:52 am

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Snafu
Reply to  Severely Concussed
09/20/2021 8:01 am

Why isn’t Juan starting?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Snafu
09/20/2021 8:04 am

Why doesnt he play at all.

Looks at sorenson. Looks at thornhill. Looks at Lamar Jackson. Ummm I pick Thornhill.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
09/20/2021 7:40 am

Could we be watching the SB loser hangover in action?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  NovaChiefs
09/20/2021 8:03 am

Thats what you take away from a losing a game that we had a 90% chance of winning until our idiot rb fumbled the ball? Against a good team with QB who won the mvp 2 years ago and looked like it.

We shit the bed. Outside of Kelce. Everybody needs to look back at that film and see what they can do better. When “Reid says this one is on me,” he’s definitely not wrong. He put his players in shitty positions last night and they responded accordingly.

Time to panic though. Not hardly.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 8:58 am

Against a good team with QB who won the mvp 2 years ago and looked like it.

I see it differently. Jackson was an effective RB (though just about anyone apparently could run on the KC defense), and their running game made the play action and option plays work. When Jackson just straight up tried to throw, he threw some terrible passes, including the INT in the end zone.

The offense wasn’t perfect by any means, but the offense isn’t the primary reason we lost that game.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Slayer0810
09/20/2021 9:30 am

Definitely not the primary but sometimes one side of the ball has to pick up the slack for the other side. They had a chance to do that last night.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 3:15 pm

I’m not disagreeing with you, but I submit the entirety of 2018 as a year where we tried having the offense compensate for a terrible defense. It worked…sort of, but when we faced the great QBs in the playoffs, the game was lost on who possessed the ball last. And I’d rather not go back to those days if we can help it.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
09/20/2021 10:13 am

It’s possible. Did we look good last week? Nope, but we won. Did we look good this week? Nope, but we lost. Do you see a spark? Do you see a fire? I do not. What do you think that teams who lose the SB then come out flat are doing, if not shitting the bed? Hopefully, Reid is too good a coach to let it continue this way, but something isn’t right.
And did I say panic? I did not. Try not to create debate where it doesn’t exist.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  NovaChiefs
09/20/2021 11:06 am

We have Pat Mahomes.

When Andy put the ball in his hands we looked good.

The defense has issues but how much of that is going against run first browns and oh god please dont force me to throw Baltimore. And to be fair we could have forced them to throw but the offense fell flat instead of putting them away.

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Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
09/20/2021 7:27 am

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d-block
d-block
09/20/2021 6:37 am

We’ve gotta have one of if not the worst defense in the league.

Snafu
Reply to  d-block
09/20/2021 7:25 am

CJ cannot play DE against an option qb.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Snafu
09/20/2021 7:55 am

This 100%

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  d-block
09/20/2021 7:37 am

I honestly expected them to make large strides on Defense. I just didn’t expect them to be backwards

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  d-block
09/20/2021 8:20 am

2003 called… They want their team back.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Nasrani
09/20/2021 8:26 am

I miss preist holmes. Could have used him last night

rip58
rip58
09/20/2021 6:26 am

Defense is a hot mess, our new O-line looks just as bad as the one they replaced. And did I mention that the defense is a hot mess..? I could’ve swore Bob Sutton was standing on the sideline last night.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  rip58
09/20/2021 9:05 am

The OL struggled for sure, but I didn’t see multiple unblocked shots on Mahomes, so I feel like they’re already better than the SB OL.

Nasrani
Nasrani
09/20/2021 6:22 am

Doggone it

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dragon6172
dragon6172
09/20/2021 6:18 am

I think this win for the Ravens is similar to the Raiders win in KC last year. It was their Superbowl.
Chiefs will get every teams best effort week after week, and the defense needs to step up to take the punches. I’m fairly confident the o-line will only get better as the season goes on.
The best news from the first 2 weeks is no major injuries. Hopefully that continues.

Chiefs_all-in
Chiefs_all-in
Reply to  dragon6172
09/20/2021 6:23 am

That’s the bright spot, because they haven’t been dominant in any phase.

EAFOX
09/20/2021 5:59 am

Patrick Mahomes and the offense play to win – it appears that our defense plays not to lose for most of the game. Case in point: Dirty Dan looks like a scrub when we sit back and he has to react to what is going on but makes play after play when he is on the attack. I understand the philosophy – let our offense get the lead and limit what the opponent is doing and, hopefully, make them one sided on the attack.

Chiefs_all-in
Chiefs_all-in
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 6:07 am

From what I watched last night, I don’t know why any team would think about passing the ball against us. Our defense just looks lost so far. And they have given up huge passing plays on blown coverage in both games. I’m sure they will look better as we go along, but right now the raiders and Broncos are circling like sharks, and we are losing blood in the water. I can see this game being important for home field in the playoffs, and we blew it.

EAFOX
Reply to  Chiefs_all-in
09/20/2021 6:10 am

I believe the win against Cleveland was more important for home field advantage than the loss against the Ravens. Want to write more about the defense but have to get ready for work.

Chiefs_all-in
Chiefs_all-in
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 6:21 am

It’s cool. I’m retired so I don’t have to worry about it anymore. You might be right about Cleveland being more important. I’m coming from the angle that so far I’ve seen a lot of hype about the chiefs, but that’s all it is. The raiders could fall apart like they usually do, but they could also go on a run and win the division. They did manage to beat us last season and division opponents are the ones that know you best. It’s early to talk about it but I could definitely see us going in as a wildcard. Maybe we will finally remember how to play defense and things will change. Right now though I can’t see a third superbowl appearance. Hope things get better, because we haven’t dominated in either game, in any phase.

rip58
rip58
Reply to  Chiefs_all-in
09/20/2021 6:31 am

We could very easily be 0-2 right now.
Let that sink in for a second…
Bring on the chargers….☹️

fansince63
fansince63
Reply to  rip58
09/20/2021 10:26 am

We could just as easily be 2-0.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 7:39 am

Home Field Advantage?! You want to talk Home Field Advantage?? Are you kidding me???

With apologies to Jim Mora…

EAFOX
09/20/2021 5:54 am

The Chiefs defense is at their best when they are attacking but most of last night they were reacting. By design I guess. Sure, an attacking defense is vulnerable to giving up the big play but the benefits can far outweigh the risks. Spags will attack on some third and long plays but, when the opponent is having success on first and second down, he might need to attack more. You cannot attack on every play but you get to the point in a game where you have to change what you see on the field.

EAFOX
09/20/2021 5:48 am

This is the second straight game that our defensive line has underwhelmed – Hard to be critical of the linebackers – though we should – when the opponent is getting their linemen up to their level. Reed, Nnadi, Saunders – Was any of their numbers called last night? Lamar Jackson was not even slowed coming up the middle – Are none of them able to get off the blocks? Lamar is exceptional at doing that but there was little to no resistance.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 8:29 am

What I saw more was double teams getting pushed back like you said to the next level. You need to anchor and hold your ground.

EAFOX
09/20/2021 5:31 am

Easy to critique from the sidelines and after the game but, in retrospect, given the fact that the Ravens offense starts and stops with Lamar Jackson and their running game, perhaps Chris Jones should have been moved inside for most of the game with a more run oriented defensive end in his place.

Snafu
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 7:34 am

Exactly this. I don’t know if Tim Ward was the answer, but Okafor isn’t.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 7:47 am

The defensive game plan obviously sucked. Usually spags does a good job adjusting but I didnt see anything in the second half.

Maw423
Maw423
Reply to  EAFOX
09/20/2021 8:05 am

This. The key to beating Lamar is containment. Case in point our last 3 wins against them.

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