Morning Huddle: Mahomes vs. Jackson MVP

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In the morning Chiefs Kingdom! Is Mahomes v. Jackson really even an argument? Grab yourself a cup o’ joe and get in the Huddle!

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[VIDEO] Who’s more likely to win 2020 MVP: Lamar or Mahomes? | NFL.com

NFL Network’s Steve Mariucci and LaDainian Tomlinson discuss who is more likely to win 2020 MVP between Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson and Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

B/R NFL Staff Roundtable: Who Would You Rather Have, Mahomes or Lamar? | B/R

This is like Superman (Mahomes) vs. Spider-Man (Jackson). Everyone really wants to find reasons to pick Spider-Man. He’s younger and cooler! He’s more fun to watch! He’s a plucky underdog! And if an army of evil robots were marching toward your town, who would it be a job for? You know it. At the end of the day, Spider-Man can bounce around slinging all the webs he wants. If Superman decides he wants to throw him into the sun, it’s over.

Chiefs punting battle playing out virtually | NFL.com

“There is nobody out in front right now. I like them both,” Toub said. “They’ve both got really strong legs, really powerful legs. They consistently hit over 5.0 (seconds) hang times, which is impressive. Tommy is a little more clean in his technique as far as consistency, whereas Tyler is a little more erratic. But the results are the same. They both bomb the ball.”

Chiefs News: Team to have new touchdown song for 2020 season | KCKingdom

The newest pick – “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (to Party)” – makes total sense, as it’s the song Travis Kelce screamed on the stage at the conclusion of the AFC Championship Game. Of course, he made it “You gotta fight for your right to Lombardi” rather than the traditional lyrics. Kelce also screamed this during the Chiefs Championship parade while on stage.

Chiefs grounds crew already working on training camp fields in St. Joseph | ChiefsWire

Just getting in a fraze mow on our Training Camp fields. Looks like the weather is finally going to warm up a bit that we can start growing grass in St. Joe. pic.twitter.com/jbv4INDk5y

Pro Bowl returner Mecole Hardman may see role limited as Chiefs focus on his development as a pass catcher | CBSSports

“I’m not sure about Hardman,” Toub said during a Zoom conference on Tuesday. “I don’t want to lose him. I think he’s just scratched the surface as a returner. He hasn’t reached his potential yet. He could be even better. I think he knows that and hopefully, we can keep him in those roles. It’s important. It’s important to get the ball in guys hands that can make plays and he’s one of them.”

Steve Spagnuolo hopes change of scenery does Taco Charlton some good | PFT

“We were really fortunate last year when we got Emmanuel Ogbah. He surfaced in the system, played good football and now he’s at Miami. Emmanuel and I have talked about this a lot and a change of scenery for him was really good. So, I think the hope, certainly, is that maybe Taco can do the same thing,” Spagnuolo said, via the team’s website.

Five Things We Learned From the Coordinators on Tuesday | Chiefs.com

“We work with [General Manager Brett] Veach and if we have two players that are close, we’ll take the guy that has the higher special teams’ grade than the other. All of these guys had good special teams’ grades, so I’m real excited about every one of them,” Toub said. “They’ve all got speed and they’ve all got good height. Clyde’s not the tallest guy in the world, but he’s so elusive, I just picture him playing [personal protector] for us on the punt team where he could get a direct snap and take off and he can do a lot of things in that area. Plus, we’re also going to find out if he can tackle, too. He’s never done it before. We’ve talked a couple times virtually, he’s never done it, but he’s looking forward to it. They’re all excited and I’m excited to have all of them.”

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cotton_don
05/21/2020 11:25 am

I think I’ll get in a fraze mow on my scalp – see if that helps.

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/21/2020 10:32 am

https://twitter.com/i/status/1263167025083539458

talk about cutting on a dime!

zulu trader
zulu trader
05/21/2020 9:50 am
Warpath
Warpath
05/21/2020 7:21 am

“WORLD CHAMPIONS”

3rdnlong
3rdnlong
Reply to  Warpath
05/21/2020 9:00 am

Never gets old.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  3rdnlong
05/21/2020 9:49 am

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MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Warpath
05/21/2020 12:47 pm

Fun fact: Ever since I said I almost always am the 10th upvoter, I have not been the 10th even once. Now I’m usually 11 or 13 (yuck!).

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
05/21/2020 7:10 am

I don’t understand why everyone is so high on Lamar. He has potential to be a good QB if he can improve his passing, but so far, he’s just a good RB who can get away with being a below-average QB. Between his own RB skills and the other RBs on the roster, he’s become a very effective play-action passer, which is why he led the league in TD passes last year. Jackson does claim that he’s going to be running less this year, but I distinctly remember hearing the same thing last year, so I’ll believe it when I see it.

TLDR; take Mahomes every. single. time.

Tyrone
Reply to  Slayer0810
05/21/2020 7:34 am

3 idiots in that article picked Jackson. 🤦‍♂️

They say Mahone’s is great, but Jackson might be the best athlete in the league! Wow! Like that means anything for a QB.

Vick was also the best athlete in the NFL. Kaepernick was a great athlete too.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  Tyrone
05/21/2020 8:59 am

That “great athlete” also doesn’t have the mental makeup of a great QB. He was visibly flustered in the Tenn playoff game. Couldn’t make the plays after he got flustered. Then you have MVPat. All this guy does is get down by double digits in the playoffs…and the biggest game of the season…and come out nails. I think I know who the real QB is.

Leaf
Reply to  Tyrone
05/21/2020 9:06 am

Personally i don’t see this “unprecedented potential” for Jackson. Sure he’s a great runner, but we’ve seen this song and dance before with every great “running QB”. And it’s not like he’s head and shoulders above the likes of Vick, or Cam, in their prime.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Leaf
05/21/2020 12:49 pm

I’ll add Randall Cunningham to that list.

Leaf
Reply to  MasterChief
05/21/2020 12:54 pm

Exactly. You can argue he’s the best at what he does, but it’s nothing new, so not “unprecedented”. Mahomes on the other hand, is doing things, on a regular basis, that for years every screamed couldn’t or shouldn’t be done. That is unprecedented.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
Reply to  Tyrone
05/21/2020 11:03 am

Potential in Lamar Jackson is why they picked him. Existing greatness in Mahomes is why they picked him. EXCEPT MAHOMES IS NOW IN HIS 3RD YEAR STARTING. Which is when most starting QBs hit their stride. This honestly isn’t ever going to be a debate. Mahomes is the Joe Cool of his era and Lamar Jackson is John Elway. The only way John Elway wins Superbowls is if Joe Montana is retired.

The analogy isn’t great but I think you get the point.

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief
Reply to  Slayer0810
05/21/2020 8:42 am

Exactly. And if Lamar can’t develop as a passer and has to stick to running, his playing days won’t last very long. He’ll get too dinged up.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  SuperMegaChief
05/21/2020 9:38 am

RG III anyone?

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  SuperMegaChief
05/21/2020 1:27 pm

I remember when everybody in Denver had a Tebow jersey. “If he can just be an ok passer.” Easier said than done “developing as a passer.” Honestly IMO if Lamar wants to MVP he should focus more on getting better in his run game. Thats what makes him special. Trying to be something he’s not is just going to lead to frustration.

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