Morning Huddle: Le’Veon Bell Anyone?

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Do we kick the tires on Bell? We could certainly use some help behind CEH. Grab yourself a cup o’ joe and get in the Huddle!

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4 reasons why Chiefs are perfect fit for Le’Veon Bell | ChiefsWire

The Chiefs running backs have struggled in pass protection this season. Edwards-Helaire has posted 17.1 grade on the season and Williams a 21.0 grade per Pro Football Focus. Bell’s effort in pass protection with the New York Jets was lackluster but still better than either of the Chiefs’ running backs at a 32.4 grade through two games. You can hardly blame Bell for it either. Anyone’s effort would be minimal if they were stuck on a pitiful team with a coaching staff that didn’t want them. If you go back to Bell’s tape with the Steelers, he was excellent in pass protection, especially when being asked to pick up a blitz.

Yes, the Chiefs should consider signing Le’Veon Bell | AA

If he can be had for a team-friendly price, there isn’t a lot of downside to signing Bell. Listen to the podcast above for the full explanation but the fact of the matter is the Chiefs are not very deep at the running back position. Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson aren’t scaring anyone and CEH is still a rookie. While CEH would clearly still be the lead back if Bell were to join the team, the depth Bell would bring to the position group alone would be worth the signing. Bell would be one more weapon defenses would have to worry about and he would also enable the Chiefs to give CEH rest during games and throughout the season, which will especially be important considering Edwards-Helaire will be playing a 16-game+ season for the first time in his life.

Le’Veon Bell Rumors: Chiefs Viewed as Landing Spot by Some Around the NFL | B/R

The defending Super Bowl champions may be getting another offensive weapon. According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, running back Le’Veon Bell is looking for somewhere he will have an opportunity to win and be involved in the offense. Fowler noted “many people around [the] league” think the Kansas City Chiefs are a potential landing spot. Peter Schrager of FoxSports.com reported multiple teams are inquiring about Bell.

Do the Chiefs Really Need to Sign Le’Veon Bell?

Even with Bell in the mix, the situational playcalling would still need to change. Edwards-Helaire hasn’t been put in the best positions to succeed when it comes to running the ball and I don’t think there’s much Bell would change on that front if he were to join the team. One loss doesn’t mean the Chiefs have to abandon the whole system and bring on a running back who hasn’t had a rushing attempt go for more than 19 yards in 264 carries.

Would I be mad if Bell came in on a veteran minimum, one-year deal and scored some touchdowns while helping the Chiefs “Run it Back?” Absolutely not. That would be fun and I would be glad I was wrong. I’m not that cynical. But Kansas City doesn’t need to go back to the buffet with their plate already full.

Chiefs host LB Emmanuel Smith on a visit | ChiefsWire

According to the NFL’s official transaction report, the team brought linebacker Emmanuel Smith into the facility for a visit. Smith, of course, was previously a member of the practice squad in Kansas City, joining the team at the onset of the 2019 NFL season. He spent the entirety of the 2019 season on the practice squad through Super Bowl LIV, signing a reserve/future deal to return to the team in 2020.

So what has prompted the team to bring Smith in for a visit and potentially bring him back into the fold? Starting LB Anthony Hitchens injured his hand during the Week 5 game against the Las Vegas Raiders. He ended up finishing the game, but he had to sit out a few series with injuries at different junctures. Andy Reid didn’t have an update on Hitchens’ injury after the game or on Monday, so that’s something to keep an eye on.

NFL Power Rankings, Week 6: Packers claim No. 1; Browns crack top 10 | NFL.com

[No.2] The Chiefs were eventually going to lose. It hadn’t happened since last November, so really, they were overdue. But it was how Kansas City lost that makes you wonder. Derek Carr and the Raiders piled up nearly 500 yards of total offense — with five plays of at least 40 yards — and Patrick Mahomes was regularly running for his life against a Vegas pass rush that had been lifeless before Sunday. Mahomes was pressured 16 times on Sunday, the second-most pressures he has faced in an NFL game, per Next Gen Stats. Mahomes’ first interception of the season, a huge turnover midway through the fourth quarter, came on a throw made from a crumbling pocket. Was this merely a bad week … or a sign of bigger issues?

Protecting Mahomes: How the Chiefs plan to get it done with Kelechi Osemele down | KCStar

“(Mike) Remmers would be the one who steps in right now,” Reid said Monday. The Chiefs signed Remmers to a one-year deal during the offseason and he provides plenty of experience, having appeared in 79 games with 78 starts with six different teams from 2012 to 2019.

The Chiefs could still look to bolster the roster with a free-agent signing. But if the team maintains the status quo, Allegretti projects as the main swing interior lineman. “He’s been in kind of that swing position and kind of covering the bases of both the guards and at center,” Reid said. “So, he’ll still be in that position.”

The 6-foot-5, 311-pound Rankin, however, should be viewed as a long-range consideration, not immediate help. Once he returns to on-field work after spending six weeks on the PUP list, the Chiefs will have a 21-day window to decide whether to activate Rankin to the active roster or shut him down for the rest of the season. “Rank(in) has done a good job of working to get back,” Reid said. “He’s not quite there yet, but he’s working at it.”

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ChiefBlueCFC
ChiefBlueCFC
10/15/2020 3:44 pm

I can’t wait for LEADMEON Bell to go to Miami because they throw all kinds of stupid money at him because they’re jealous that the Jets have already wasted a bunhc of money on him and they just have to top their futility

upamtn
10/15/2020 12:26 pm

Le’Veon Bell Anyone?

he can go phuque himself …

just my opinion

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  upamtn
10/15/2020 1:04 pm

So you know that word is pronounced “fuk yoo,” right?

Last edited 15 days ago by Berserker
tsv0728
tsv0728
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 1:08 pm

Huh…I never realized that. I always assumed it was just a fancy way of saying “fuck”. Thanks for the public service announcement 🙂

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  tsv0728
10/15/2020 1:13 pm

Yeah I was wondering why Ups was telling DaChefs that Le’veon can fuck him.

workingmansdead
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 1:15 pm

Here I was wondering why someone like ups was pissed at Bell (presumably for holding out/demanding a trade). Seems out of character to me that he’d choose the billionaires over the millionaires.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  workingmansdead
10/15/2020 1:27 pm

Ha, high level sarcasm right there! Almost fooled me.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  workingmansdead
10/15/2020 2:40 pm

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Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  probablyamistake
10/15/2020 2:51 pm

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upamtn
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 9:39 pm

LOL … ain’t no god, Dude

upamtn
Reply to  tsv0728
10/15/2020 9:38 pm

you are correct … Berserker is wrong (as he so often is)

it is “french” for “fuck” (similar to the french word “gar-baaaaaaghe”)

Berserker
Berserker
10/15/2020 10:45 am

So I saw Geoff Schwartz’ comments about Mahomes’ failure to climb the pocket Sunday, and that putting pressure on our OTs to hold their blocks too far behind the LoS. But I’m not buying it.

Main reason being that nearly every time I saw Mahomes scramble out of the pocket, he did so AFTER he had to shrug off grabby defenders who were all over every part of his pocket. So it’s not like Mahomes was abandoning a clean pocket or running himself into defenders on a regular basis.

And, it’s a one-off, but one play where Mahomes did step up into the pocket, that’s when he got strip sacked from behind by a DE. I think it was Schwartz’ bro who got beat on that one…not totally sure, but I do know that it was one of the tackles who got beat one-on-one, on a play where Mahomes stepped up just like Geoff said he should. AND, that was one of the very rare times when Mahomes didn’t swivel his head to check around for pressure, but instead put total trust in his Olinemen to not blow an individual assignment….and it blew up in his face.

Now having said all that, I will also say that Mahomes could have done a better job of taking the check-down outlet, especially later in the game after he saw what the Raiders were doing. Mahomes has always been slow to check down, which is much better than being too quick to check down (as we all now know)…but still, while being too aggressive is a lesser fault than being too conservative, it’s still a fault, and something that Mahomes should work on improving.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 10:50 am

Honestly I think Geoff’s comments were based on Mahomes’ history, not this specific game. Mahomes definitely has had a habit of fading too far back on his drop-backs in the past. But, I don’t think that was the specific problem in this last game.

Also, Geoff’s reaction was probably also due to all the twittering gadflies who relentlessly pester, well, everybody. Seriously, you kids are horrible.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 11:28 am

I believe that some plays are designed to have Mahomes backpedaling in order to buy a second or two. The added yardage doesn’t bother him and neither does having to throw while moving backwards. Wasp. It probably is tough on the o-line though.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  MasterChief
10/15/2020 11:40 am

Yep, you’re probably right. I’m not smart enough to tell which ones are designed fade-aways, though, until Reid or somebody tells us afterward. I kinda think Geoff isn’t, either.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 12:39 pm

I realize Geoff knows more about football than I do, but some of his taeks have me shaking my head.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  MasterChief
10/15/2020 12:49 pm

I honestly think he just gets pissed at the twitter twats and loses his equilibrium. I mean, who hasn’t?

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 12:54 pm

I did hear Grunhard say something interesting yesterday. He said how when a rusher starts to get around a blocker, the blocker is supposed to try and PUSH the rusher off balance. But it looked to him like the Chiefs Olineman often try to grab and PULL the rusher instead, which is a person’s natural reaction, but also illegal. He seemed to be saying it’s a combination individual discipline/coaching issue.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
10/15/2020 10:24 am

We really should be looking for Oline, not more running backs to get stopped for a 2 yard gain.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
10/15/2020 10:21 am

Bell is this years Shady. I wouldn’t expect him to last beyond this season if we did land him. The overall impact attitudes aside should be a plus. But he cannot play O line so we still need to solidify that group first anyway.

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Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  ArrowFan
10/15/2020 10:25 am

Yes on Oline, but who’s available right now? I mean it’s not like we have a choice between signing Bell or a Bell-caliber Olineman.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 10:28 am

I agree I think the O line will improve without adding anyone new anyway. 1 they cannot play much worse than they did and 2 a week of coaching will only help. The ultimate question is how much improvement will we see. By default if Bell is a better pass blocker than what we have then he would improve our overall pass protection.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  ArrowFan
10/15/2020 10:56 am

Well, honestly, your reason #1 doesn’t make me feel any better. Ha!

It seems like the Chiefs think the best available new Olineman they can get, is going to be Rankin whenever he gets off PUP.

I do think Bell could improve pass protection, if he still blocks like he did in Pitt. Unlike his YPC, I don’t think his blocking depended on his Olinemen cheating for him. Also, I think he’s a very good receiver, so he can also “block” a pass rusher by drawing them out into coverage.

Nasrani
Nasrani
10/15/2020 9:08 am

Going to take a major pass on that one.

We became WORLD CHAMPIONS via teamwork and a “we’re-all-in-this-together” family attitude, not because of factionalism and diva-ness. It’s the same reason we didn’t sign Antonio Brown.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  DaChefs
10/15/2020 10:15 am

Yeah, I get the sense that Bell is more of a…free thinker, so to speak, instead of a deliberate jerk like Brown. Could easily be wrong, though.

I think Bell got an undeservedly bad rep when he was going for his new contract and made the totally understandable mistake of hoping that his services were worth more than most other people thought they were worth. Could be wrong though.

The only reason Bell was a superstar in Pitt is that those Olinemen had the ability (and implicit permission from the officials) to bear-hug opponents. So he obviously wouldn’t have that here in KC. However, that said, he’s still a very good RB who can catch and block.

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upamtn
Reply to  Berserker
10/15/2020 12:31 pm

a very good RB who can catch and block

‘scuse me … didn’t the team like just get some RB from LSU in the FIRST ROUND who can do that? I mean, everything I’ve read says he’s like “the best” at catching passes AND at blocking … why invest in a big-headed loser like Bell? if he was all that good, the Jets would keep him … if he’s BS’ing his time and not being part of the team (for HOW much?!?!?!?) then he has no business playing for KC, as he’d obviously be a selfish player as opposed to a team player

Last edited 15 days ago by upamtn
MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  upamtn
10/15/2020 12:48 pm

I just typed up a paragraph on why I agree with you, but then I got to thinking that he might be good to have as a backup for minimal cost. I say let’s bring in all the guys we can and if they are shitheads, we can always dump them. We won’t be paying Bell much as a rental.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  upamtn
10/15/2020 1:01 pm

Because we only have the one first round RB from LSU who can do that stuff. We’re a twisted ankle away from having no RB who can do that stuff.

Also, CEH is a rookie, and honestly it’s been showing.

Also, I believe that Clyde is smart enough to be able to learn some tricks from watching Bell play, because regardless of Bell’s character, he does have a unique and pretty effective approach to playing RB. We could get Bell for about 3/4 of a season, AND a much more knowledgeable Clyde for all the rest of his seasons here.

As for not being part of the team, well, personally I think that Andy Reid might be better than Adam Gase at convincing people to become part of the team. But of course you’re perfectly entitled to your own opinion (that Reid is NOT better than Gase, apparently).

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Nasrani
10/15/2020 10:03 am

I thought Leveon just wanted to get paid? Not sure if that makes him a diva or anything like Antonio Brown.

Warpath
Warpath
10/15/2020 8:44 am

“WORLD CHAMPIONS”

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
10/15/2020 8:30 am

ChiefsWire, nice work not doing your homework. E-Smith is 6’1, not 6’4 and he’s a WILL candidate, check out his numbers if you don’t believe:

http://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=131108&DraftYear=2018

I’ve been waiting for this kid to get a shot for a year now.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  go_saleaumua
10/15/2020 10:21 am

Typo? Or they looked up the wrong Emmanuel Smith?

Team Player
Team Player
10/15/2020 8:28 am

https://theundefeated.com/features/tyrann-mathieu-is-changing-the-game/

Written by an ex-Donkey but still a good read

upamtn
Reply to  Team Player
10/15/2020 12:33 pm

saw that early this AM … very good read

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