Morning Huddle – I loved a Parade Thursday

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Good morning Chiefs Kingdom! Grab yourself a cup o’ Joe and get in the Huddle!

Chiefs news for Feb 15, 2023

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Good morning, AG!

Today in Chiefs’ history, Mel Branch (DE, 1960-65) was born in 1937, Al Reynolds (G, 1960-67) in 1938, Justin Reid (S, 2022- ) in 1997, and Willie Gay Jr (LB, 2020- ) was born in 1998. Hopefully the last two recovered from yesterday’s parade to party today

Elsewhere, in 1978, Leon Spinks defeated Muhammad Ali to become the heavyweight boxing champion of the world.

1965: Canada officially adopted the Maple Leaf Flag following a royal proclamation.

1954: Matt Groening, who created the comic strip Life in Hell and the television series The Simpsons and Futurama, was born.

1933: An assassin’s bullet meant for the U.S. president-elect, Franklin D. Roosevelt, wounded Mayor Anton J. Cermak of Chicago, who died three weeks later

1927: The silent film It was released in American theatres, and Clara Bow, the star, became Hollywood’s first “It girl.”

1898: An explosion in Havana harbour sank the battleship USS Maine, killing 260 American seamen and precipitating the Spanish-American War

1820: Susan B. Anthony, a pioneer crusader for the women’s suffrage movement in the United States, was born in Adams, Massachusetts.

1564: Galileo, Italian philosopher, astronomer and mathematician was born. Magnifico!

Know what else is Magnifico? The news…well, most of it, anyway

KC Chiefs DT Chris Jones Has Strong Statement About Future at Super Bowl LVIII Parade | SI

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/kc-chiefs-dt-chris-jones-has-strong-statement-about-future-at-super-bowl-lviii-parade

Jones didn’t hold back when discussing his future with the Chiefs on stage at Union Station on Wednesday.

Chris Jones says he’s staying with the Chiefs: ‘I ain’t going nowhere’ | Chiefswire

Whether it’s his heart or the alcohol talking, Jones seems motivated to stay with the team he’s won three Super Bowls with.

Travis Kelce’s Awkward Super Bowl Parade Moment Led to Lots of Jokes From NFL Fans | SI

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/02/14/chiefs-travis-kelce-super-bowl-parade-awkward-moment

Kelce, who likes to sing into the mic after big wins, broke out another song during his speech, and, well, it was pretty awkward. Kelce attempted to belt out Garth Brooks’s legendary hit “Friends in Low Places,” but it didn’t go well.

Chiefs’ Super Bowl celebration was different this year. Did it have a deeper meaning? | KC Star via Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-super-bowl-celebration-different-120000414.html

Dozens of Chiefs players and coaches lit up Sunday, with the fog hanging heavy in the air as reporters made their way through the madness. Because of recent events, it’s at least worth exploring the question: Did the gesture have a greater meaning, especially given that it took place in the Las Vegas Raiders’ locker room?

Travis Kelce says pushing Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was ‘definitely unacceptable’ | ABC7 San Francisco

https://abc7news.com/travis-kelce-andy-reid-new-heights-podcast-jason/14424333/

His brother, Eagles center Jason Kelce, said on their ‘New Heights’ podcast that Travis “crossed the line.”

Mitch Albom: Patrick Mahomes in rarefied air with 3rd Super Bowl victory in OT thriller | Detroit Free Press via Yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/mitch-albom-patrick-mahomes-rarefied-111108646.html

Now you know why he gets all those commercials. In overtime, in the Super Bowl, in the final minutes of the seventh longest game in NFL history, Patrick Mahomes took control of his team, the night, and football history.

Chiefs’ GM trolls rest of the NFL at Super Bowl 58 parade | Clutchpoints

https://clutchpoints.com/chiefs-news-kansas-city-gm-trolls-nfl-super-bowl-58-parade

The Kansas City GM had a little fun at the Chiefs’ Super Bowl parade.

Ref Bill Vinovich recognized Patrick Mahomes’ greatness in candid Super Bowl moment | KC Star via Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ref-bill-vinovich-recognized-patrick-143056746.html

NFL Films had a nice breakdown of McDuffie’s clutch play, and it includes an interesting conversation between two game officials. Referee Bill Vinovich, who was mic’d-up, acknowledged Mahomes’ greatness before the pivotal play.

Patrick Mahomes set perhaps the most obscure record of his career in Super Bowl | KC Star via Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/news/patrick-mahomes-set-perhaps-most-194343993.html

Mahomes also set a record during the Chiefs’ epic 25-22 overtime win against the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl LVIII at Allegiant Stadium. This is an odd one.

Eye on…history? Taylor? Taylor history? Welcome to the off-season

Who is Clara Bow? And why did Taylor Swift name a song after her? | Entertainment Weekly

https://ew.com/who-is-clara-bow-and-why-did-taylor-swift-name-a-song-after-her-8559842

We delve into the life of the silent film star whose name is the title of a song on the musician’s forthcoming album, “The Tortured Poets Department.”

And finally, because people can’t not do stupid things

Multiple people were shot at Chiefs’ Super Bowl parade | Chiefswire

At the end of the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl parade, shots were fired at Union Station, according to Kansas City Police. Multiple people were struck and two armed suspects have been taken into custody.

This has been talked about and talked about already, and the story I linked above was one of the first, so likely the info isn’t accurate, but all I’m going to update is this: We know who was killed.

Radio station KKFI said in a Facebook post Wednesday evening that Lisa Lopez-Galvan, host of Taste of Tejano,’ was killed in the shooting. ‘This senseless act has taken a beautiful person from her family and this KC Community, KKFI said in a statement. Lopez-Galvan, whose DJ name was ‘Lisa G,’ was an extrovert and devoted mother from a prominent Latino family in the area, said Rosa Izurieta and Martha Ramirez, two childhood friends who worked with her at a staffing company. Izurieta said Lopez-Galvan had attended the parade with her husband and her adult son, a die-hard Kansas City sports fan who also was shot.

And if you’re thinking “What a crazy, fluky thing to have happen at a Championship celebration”, think again:

“It is the latest sports celebration in the U.S. to be marred by gun violence, following a shooting that injured several people last year in downtown Denver after the Nuggets’ NBA championship, and gunfire last year at a parking lot near the Texas Rangers’ World Series championship parade.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kansas-city-turns-red-chiefs-062210742.html

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upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:24 am

would that parades, schools, churches, hotels, grocery stores and other places were reasonably safe spaces as well …

MasterChief
02/15/2024 2:31 pm

I think the 2nd amendment should be looked at by the supreme court.

I’m no constitutional historian, but I presume they dreamed up the 2nd amendment some time in the 1770’s.

Back then, “arms” meant a musket rifle or some kind of black powder pistol. A single individual would have a massively difficult time performing a mass shooting with a weapon that took at least 20 seconds to reload per shot. Would our founding forefathers have created the 2nd amendment if they had the weapons we have available today?

So what was the real intent behind the 2nd amendment? Was it to have a musket? Was it for personal protection at home? Or was it to be able to fight off an army (foreign or domestic)?

I think we need to do one of 3 things:

  1. Allow only single shot, bolt-action weapons for hunting and home defense. Pump action shotguns, revolver pistols, etc might be allowed.
  2. Allow us to have ANY weapon, including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, heavy machine guns, tanks, artillery, etc etc etc, that would actually allow us to fend off a modern army.
  3. Enact common sense laws that make owning weapons a privilege, such as having a drivers license.

The more power to kill that a single person has, the worse our mass shootings will get. Casualty totals for each incident will only grow as weapons improve. Imagine someone snapping with a stinger missile, killing hundreds as a passenger plane is shot down. Or someone snapping with a mortar tube and targeting Arrowhead stadium during a game. It will only get worse.

Or maybe we need to have a federal law that punishes gun violence with death, and not a drawn out death row, but like once the trial is over and the defendant is found guilty, they are immediately put to death that day.

Something is going to have to happen or it will only get worse and worse until our homeland is no longer distinguishable from Afghanistan.

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 3:33 pm

maybe a better definition of what is – or isn’t – a “well regulated militia”

DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 4:19 pm

Are you saying theres more verbiage to the amendment than just “The right to bear arms”?

upamtn
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 5:26 pm

why yes … yes I am

Big Chief
02/15/2024 12:49 pm

I always like Schatz’s Football Outsiders and the DVOA and other analysis they did. One of my favorite articles was some work done by Bryan Knowles where they ranked football dynasty teams using a formula that looked at championships, playoff wins, and DVOA (of course). He put it up after the Chiefs won SB LIV and didn’t update until recently, after Schatz moved to FTN. Here’s the chart, the Chiefs are currently number 10 all time on the Dynasty list.
Top 10 NFL Dynasties

  1. 2001-2019 NE
  2. 1981-1998 SF
  3. 1960-1967 GB
  4. 1966-1985 DAL
  5. 1940-1943 CHI
  6. 1972-1979 PIT
  7. 1950-1958 CLE
  8. 1967-1977 OAK
  9. 1935-1944 GB
  10. 2015-2023 KC

Obviously I think it’s wrong to have us behind the Raiders, but this team should continue to move up the list. As a really old Chiefs fan I’m just amazed to see them on this list.

Here’s a link to the article, but I think it’s behind a paywall – https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/115896/dynasty-rankings-update-2024

Big Chief
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 1:57 pm

Here’s a link to the original 2019 article (it’s not behind a paywall) – https://web.archive.org/web/20230306181721/https:/www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/dynasty-rankings-defining-dynasty
In looking through that, the Chiefs knocked the Peyton Manning Colts out of the top 10. I have to admit to getting a certain amount of satisfaction from that since those teams caused us so much pain.

Big Chief
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 2:24 pm

If you get a chance, check out the original article where they explain their point system. It’s pretty good, and I think the fact that the top 10 span the entire history of the league shows it’s pretty solid.

They also have a related list showing worst franchises as well. The post-Stram Steadman era Chiefs were on that list, but not very high.

ArrowFan
02/15/2024 10:04 am

As embarrassing as a lot of things were yesterday for the City, the Team, and certain players. There are some positives, look at how some reacted after and during the tragedy. Like the heroes whose intervention prevented the guilty from getting away. Or how some players responded to comfort and calm children as best they could. As well as all the law enforcement and emergency responders involved. These heroes saved lives.

Team Player
02/15/2024 8:30 am

Blaming guns is like blaming Britt Reid’s car.

Both are extremely dangerous weapons, prone to misuse. But neither is criminal. It’s the person without responsibility.

Team Player
Reply to  Team Player
02/15/2024 8:34 am

If you want to make a difference, make a tiny incursion into the first amendment and remove publicity for stupidity.

Anyone that commits an atrocity like this should live in anonymous isolation considering their actions.

Fun fact: the penitentiary is a Quaker concept

Nasrani
Reply to  Team Player
02/15/2024 8:34 am

Well said.

probablyamistake
Reply to  Team Player
02/15/2024 8:51 am

Huh? Sure a car can be used as a weapon, but that’s not what it’s designed for. It’s a vehicle. A gun on the other hand is a weapon designed for one thing. To kill. We regulate who can drive a car, which isn’t a weapon. We refuse to regulate guns because the industry has convinced millions of people it’s their “God given right” to own one. I never read that in the Bible. Or the Constitution.

Team Player
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 9:22 am

I heard about a parent on trial for their minor child’s murder spree. It gave me pause, but I support this notion.

DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 9:22 am

People use their cars to go to work, take their kids to school, do the things that make society run. Guns? Fucking useless.

ArrowFan
Reply to  DenverDonkeyHater
02/15/2024 9:41 am

Guns make our society work we wouldn’t have our society if it weren’t for them.

ArrowFan
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:18 am

1776 I believe is when they were most important to our society and the reason for the 2nd amendment. All I can say is if you are worried about people with guns doing bad things to you. We already have laws against them doing bad things to you with the guns. More laws will not help you feel safe. One thing that helps me feel safe is carrying a gun of my own. They are also very fun to shoot at targets.

probablyamistake
Reply to  ArrowFan
02/15/2024 10:28 am

Spare me. You’re telling us something we haven’t tried won’t work. That’s just a BS narrative.

ArrowFan
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 9:40 am

Guns are regulated.

probablyamistake
Reply to  ArrowFan
02/15/2024 9:51 am

Sure they are.

ArrowFan
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 9:55 am

Go by a handgun today. You don’t just walk in with cash and walk out with a gun. You will apply and then need to be approved.

probablyamistake
Reply to  ArrowFan
02/15/2024 9:56 am

Unless you go to a gun show.

ArrowFan
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 10:12 am

Last time I purchase a handgun at gun show I sill had to apply and be approved.

ArrowFan
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:11 am

None of the individuals involved yesterday would adhered to any of this. Bad people will do bad things regardless.

Big Chief
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 11:58 am

We could crack down on gangs.

Big Chief
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 12:27 pm

I can’t quote the actual percentage (and am too bummed out to look it up), but actually the majority of the mass shooting events (currently defined as 4 or more victims) ARE gang related. It’s why people are always surprised by the number of mass shootings when they only hear about things like the shootings at schools, churches, etc. So if we crack down on gangs, it should have a significant impact on the number of mass shooting events.

DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  Big Chief
02/15/2024 12:51 pm

We made switch blades illegal to prevent the sharks and jets from killing each other. Let them use semi automatic weapons instead.

hoosierchief
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 9:45 am

last I heard, the gun that did all the shooting was in a person’s hand. It didn’t just jump up and start blasting away. Instead of blaming the person, you blame the gun? That makes no sense. Makes guns illegal? hell, shooting and murdering people is already illegal. Laws don’t work. Its a society problem.

probablyamistake
Reply to  hoosierchief
02/15/2024 9:48 am

Yeah, that’s exactly what I did. Nice try though.

probablyamistake
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:20 am

Maybe we are the craziest, most homicidal nation in the civilized world. Take this debate as an example. There are people who refuse to admit we have a gun problem and something needs to be done about it. Guns aren’t the problem, people are. I agree with this position, but let’s not try to make sure the psychos don’t get their hands on guns. Guns for all!!!!

upamtn
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 10:29 am

how about “people with guns” are the problem … not all, of course, now would any rational person make that claim (and on rare occasion I can be somewhat lucid)

I’m with Nova, Hoosier, Chef and others in that we need regulations (like we have on cars) .. and we need to stop pretending like it’s still 1776 (or the Wild Wild West of 1876)

we need civility in our civilization

KCChef
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 9:57 am

^^^ THIS !!!Yep & While You don’t blame the Car for Vehicular Homicide , You do ensure the Driver is mentally Competent, passes universal Written & Practical competency tests , Maintains it in a safe manner so as to not injure others & especially limit who can drive high capacity vehicles …

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:19 am

Nova, you and I and everyone on AG know that I’ve said the same thing for years, and you ALSO know that anytime we have a “discussion” about it the very concept of “gun regulatory laws” gets … (wait for it) … “shot down” by those who (continue to ) mis-read and mis-interpret the 2nd Amendment

“a well regulated militia” huh … fine, then let’s regulate the guns

“the right to bear arms” eh … anyone consider the “the right to not get shot up”

and the group that’s harmed the most?

kids … traumatized for life

in Missouri, the state repealed most concealed carry laws in 2017; in 2023 and voted down a provision that would ban minors from carrying firearms in public without parental supervision (which is just about THE dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of in a long, long time)

“best country in the world” … ha, now while this kind of thing continues to happen

probablyamistake
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 10:26 am

We do agree on more things than you realize. Even if kids aren’t directly exposed to violence, they are exposed to active shooter drills at school. Bottom line, we care more about guns than our children. Period. I really want to go off on this, but I need to stop.

upamtn
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 10:31 am

your voice has been heard, my friend

KCChef
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 10:35 pm

Uhh … Kids Not Effected ? … IT’S THEIR #1 CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE US !!! … SMDH … : (

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 11:18 am

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upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 11:41 am

magic *wink*wink*

I also couldn’t get image to open separately, nor could I copy it, so I resorted to trickery: google search of Tom and Bug and Gun “images” and it was the first thing that popped up … open image, save, upload to site … the usual

glad to help

upamtn
02/15/2024 8:14 am

class act … and I suspect that, sooner or later, he’s gonna be back in The Big One

probablyamistake
02/15/2024 7:48 am

Let’s call what happened yesterday what it is. EVIL. Refusing to do anything about it is EVIL. And that’s where we are.

upamtn
Reply to  probablyamistake
02/15/2024 8:15 am

refusing to do anything about it has been going on forever …

other than thoughts and prayers, of course

hoosierchief
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 8:27 am

I don’t think you can do a thing about it anymore. the root of the problem is that society now is such that kids are taught they aren’t responsible for their actions. don’t want to study? no problem, we’ll pass you anyways. Act up in school? well, the school can’t discipline you, so it doesn’t get corrected. Wanna use your phone during class? go ahead – the teacher can’t stop you. Want to assault someone? go ahead. they’ll turn you loose in an hour. Wanna have a fantasy that you are someone else – go ahead. everyone else has to act like your fantasy is real. Is it any surprise that people now are doing all the crazy stuff they are? They are taught that their actions have no consequences and can do whatever they want. they have no discipline and no respect.

upamtn
02/15/2024 7:19 am

well done, Nova, esp considering the tail end of events yesterday

upamtn
Reply to  NovaChiefs
02/15/2024 10:20 am

that doesn’t solve anything either

Warpath
02/15/2024 7:19 am

“WORLD CHAMPIONS”

Nasrani
Reply to  Warpath
02/15/2024 8:31 am

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MasterChief
Reply to  Warpath
02/15/2024 2:42 pm

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cotton_don
02/15/2024 6:45 am

40+ minutes of Super Bowl Mic’d up.

Team Player
02/15/2024 6:39 am

Someone still needs to take Veach to task – the loss on Christmas was to the Raiders not the Broncos

MasterChief
Reply to  Team Player
02/15/2024 2:42 pm

I noticed that too!

gonzangkc11
02/15/2024 6:31 am

Bravo to THE MAN who ran after & tackled the KNUCKLEHEAD shooter.

gonzangkc11
02/15/2024 6:29 am

48 mass shootings Already this year.
46 days into this calendar year

Mass shootings is 4 or more people

Team Player
Reply to  gonzangkc11
02/15/2024 6:42 am

4 is a pretty low bar for “mass” but it still needs to stop

EAFOX
02/15/2024 5:31 am

Prayers for all involved yesterday

gonzangkc11
Reply to  EAFOX
02/15/2024 6:15 am

100%

upamtn
Reply to  EAFOX
02/15/2024 8:19 am

prayers are nice and all, but what we NEED are new people in office who actually have the guts to “do” something instead of repeat the same, tired platitudes when it comes to gun laws

paulkcc
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 8:37 am

In a country where lawlessness abounds, it will take more than new gun laws to fix things (and I’m not against some new gun laws). It’s going to take a change to the judicial system. Justice needs to be swift and sure, and the punishment must fit the crime. We have become a nation full of selfish and immoral people who have no fear of justice, and we are reaping what we’ve sown.

Team Player
Reply to  paulkcc
02/15/2024 9:19 am

Consequence.

upamtn
Reply to  paulkcc
02/15/2024 10:21 am

one can’t have “justice” w/o having the laws as a foundation … ie, gun regulation (licensed, insured, etc etc)

paulkcc
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 10:28 am

Couldn’t agree with you more, but when the justice system won’t uphold the laws and make people accountable for breaking them, then no amount of laws is going to change things. It all has to work together.

upamtn
Reply to  paulkcc
02/15/2024 10:30 am

this is true, but one has to start somewhere

paulkcc
Reply to  upamtn
02/15/2024 10:32 am

Agree, I guess nothing says we can’t start in 2 places at the same time. 😉

Snafu
Reply to  EAFOX
02/15/2024 8:53 am

If prayers help, maybe get out in front of it and pray for it to stop.

KCChef
Reply to  Snafu
02/15/2024 9:38 am

No disrespect to you intended ( As I’m a little unclear of your comment’s intent )

With hot lead screaming You & America’s #1 CAUSE OF CHILDHOOD DEATHS !!! but I’d encourage you not to try & stop it w/ appealing to a higher power , but , w/ the power of your vote to elect proponents of Common Sense .
Be it Gun Reform, Bodily Autonomy,The Right to Be / Marry Whom you Choose, Recognition of Science and it’s disciplines as Fact in Climate & Health decisions , Representative Government, Sans Gerrymandering, The Rule of Law, Truth as a Foundational Alpha/ Omega , The Recognition of Putin as a Murderous War Criminal & American Democracy in General … Just a Thought …

Snafu
Reply to  KCChef
02/15/2024 10:20 am

My comment was intended to point out the futility of appealing to a higher power. I’m quite sure many people have prayed for this kind of thing to stop.
So, I agree with you.

Team Player
Reply to  KCChef
02/15/2024 10:38 am

The number two cause for older children is just as bad

We aren’t debating the problem, just the solution

KCChef
Reply to  Team Player
02/15/2024 10:40 pm

Could we mebbe focus on # 1 first ? …

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