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Chiefs News For Tony’s Mom’s Birthday: January 31, 2019.

Chiefs great Johnny Robinson should finally get that Hall of Fame call Saturday | KC Star

In Johnny Robinson’s perfect world, the Chiefs would have beaten New England in the Jan. 20 AFC Championship Game to reach the Super Bowl — in itself something that would delight their former star safety. Moreover, they’d thus be in Atlanta on Saturday to neatly converge with his vigil to at last be summoned into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That afternoon, this year’s sole senior finalist will be clad in a beautiful new suit and fidgeting along with family in his hotel room awaiting the verdict of the full 48-person selection committee — which also will be deliberating the case of former Chief tight end Tony Gonzalez as one of the modern-era finalists.

Chiefs’ Staff Members, Ambassadors, Cheerleaders and Red Coaters Join the “Souper Bowl of Caring” at Harvesters | Chiefs.com

Staff members at One Arrowhead Drive – alongside Chiefs Ambassadors, Cheerleaders and Red Coaters – demonstrated that commitment on Tuesday afternoon, volunteering their time at Harvesters – The Community Food Network to pack thousands of “BackSnacks” for local kids in need as part of the “Souper Bowl of Caring” campaign. “This marks the 10th consecutive year that the Chiefs are serving as a national sponsor of the Souper Bowl of Caring movement,” said Dan Crumb, Chiefs CFO and Chairman of the Board at Harvesters. “Each year, the organization has partnered with Harvesters for a service activity, and that has helped us deliver around 24,000 BackSnacks to the community.”

Chiefs have options for linebacker coaching vacancy | Chiefs Wire

With Steve Spagnuolo taking over as defensive coordinator, the Chiefs will be switching to his 4-3 under scheme. That means they’ll employ three off the ball linebackers. It’s possible to replace both of these coaches with a single linebacker coach. Even though the Chiefs are late to the party for assembling a new defensive coaching staff, there are several good candidates out there to takeover the linebacker coaching gig for the Chiefs. A few of them are even familiar with Spagnuolo and his system.

Kansas City Chiefs: Offensive line might see minor shakeup in 2019 | Fansided

The line did decently last year, allowing 26 sacks on their first-year quarterback in the regular season (and another eight during the playoffs, which wasn’t ideal). The Chiefs offensive line finished the year as the 13th best o-line in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. That sounds about right.

Marcus Peters: Chiefs should have won AFC Championship | 247Sports

“It was a game that they should’ve won,” Peters said, per the Kansas City Star. “Tom just got ‘em. Other than that, it just falls like that sometimes.”

Rest of the West

Goodell hopeful Raiders will get resolution soon for ’19 | NFL.com

“Many of those issues are obviously issues that the Raiders are taking a lead on,” Goodell said Wednesday during his annual State of the League address during Super Bowl week. “They’ve been having a variety of discussions with officials looking at their options, making sure that they evaluate them. It’s unfortunate the litigation was filed prior to their final season in Oakland, but that’s the reality — that was filed by the city. I’m hopeful that they’ll get a resolution soon.”

Rest of the Rest

Dante Fowler on Jags’ fall: ‘Other teams were hungrier’ | NFL.com

During the lead-up to Super Bowl LIII, Fowler, now a member of the Los Angeles Rams, reflected on how much of a culture shift he experienced when he moved from Florida to California ahead of the 2018 trade deadline. In the process, he acknowledged how the Jaguars weren’t exactly quiet about their credentials, even as they fell from AFC contender to division cellar-dweller.

Translation: The Chiefs murdered their souls.

NFL likely to consider judgment challenge with penalty disincentive | ESPN

As a possible solution to avoid the type of missed call that occurred in the NFC Championship Game, the NFL is expected to consider a plan that would allow limited coaches’ challenges for incorrect judgment calls that also could include a penalty or time run off if the coach is wrong, per a league source.

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BDChiefsFan
BDChiefsFan
01/31/2019 1:30 pm

I think prime Marino might have been able to throw 60. I think Pat will someday.

NHChiefsfan
NHChiefsfan
01/31/2019 10:43 am

I’m guessing that Steven Nelson isn’t going to be retained?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 11:15 am

Seems he don’t want to be retained.

EAFOX
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 3:55 pm

I believe the Chiefs realize that some team will offer him more than he is worth. Was solid but certainly not spectacular for most of the year.

WTF_Chiefs
WTF_Chiefs
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 5:06 pm

Nelson isn’t very effective in “off” coverage…..Spags uses way more off coverage than Sutton and Nelson isn’t a great fit…..He is at his best in press and able to disrupt the receiver ……almost every “big” play he gave up, he either missed his jam or let receiver get a favorable release and there won’t be quite as many opportunities to press

slackator
slackator
Reply to  NHChiefsfan
01/31/2019 2:44 pm

hopefully

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer
01/31/2019 10:35 am

Sheep wins the day!!

sportingchiefs
01/31/2019 8:53 am

Who does this Tony schmuck think he is? Boooooo 😉

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
01/31/2019 7:40 am

Alright guys, we need an article explaining the difference of a 3-4 and a 4-3 for those of us yahoos too lazy to google.

In all seriousness, what are the main differences of the responsibilities of linebackers in the 4-3 Under.

Would Houston and Ford not be the Sam and Will LBs? Those are the steong and weak side OLBs right? Are the OLBs primary roles to contain the run and drop in coverage now? Or would they still be rushing the QB as often?

Thanks in advance for educating me oh wise ones!

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:46 am

Thats why you’re the man Tony. Always willing to go the extra mile for this bunch of misfits.

Thanks, my dude!

stjoechief
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 8:07 am

Can we green this, please?

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 8:09 am

Awesome, thanks!

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 8:16 am

So Hitchens as the Mike would not need to do much sideline to sideline stuff aside from running down plays that get outside?

Leaf
Reply to  ElPasoJason
01/31/2019 9:16 am

Physically Hitchens can handle being a mike. It was his primary position in Dallas his last two years. But he struggles with reading the play quickly, and the Mike is essentially the QB of defense. Hopefully moving to a 1 gap scheme over the complicated 2 gap Bob ran will help him there.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 10:15 am

1 gap and 2 gap effect the entire defensive front, not just the d line. If you are running a 1 gap, you have to fill the other gaps not covered by the dline with linebackers. If you are running 2 gap, the d line is responsible for two gaps and the linebackers read and react instead of just attacking their gap.

As for Bob, I thought he ran a 2 gap. But if he was running a 1 gap, what the fuck was wrong with our LBs. There should have been no reading and reacting. Just attacking your gap.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 11:28 am

You got them mixed up bro. In a 1 gap you know exactly what gap you play before the snap. There is no reading and reacting. If you are running a 4-3u your LBs know that the NT is responsible for the strong side A gap and the 3-tech is responsible for the weak side B gap. So if you are the Mike, you know before the snap that your responsibility is the weak side A gap. No reading necessary.

In a two gap it’s all about reading and reacting. You have no clue before the snap which gap gets clogged by lineman so you have to wait. You are right in this is exactly what was wrong with our LBs. They couldn’t read and react fast enough and looked like a deer in the headlights. This is why I though Bob ran a 2 gap.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 11:51 am

No you are still only responsible for your gap. If the o-line pulls, you follow your gap. Simple. There are no new holes opening up if you do that because every gap has a specific man. 2 gap it’s not decided what gap is open until one gets clogged. Then you can react. That doesn’t sound simpler to me.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 12:24 pm

I was talking about straight generic 1 gap vs 2 gap. Of course the o-line play is a variable that you can’t determine until snap. But that’s the same for a two gap as well. There we’ll always be some reading and reacting regardless of the defense you run. But the 1 gap technique minimizes this by attacking your specific gap right from the start. This allows you to play faster as you aren’t waiting around to see what’s going on before you react. You can’t react in a two gap system until you make certain observations, so by default got are already playing slower as you can’t react instantaneously after the snap.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 1:14 pm

Lol. But that’s the point. In a two gap the d line doesn’t know where it’s going. They have to watch the play unfold and then pick one of their two assigned gaps to plug. So how is forcing the LBs to read more of the field and react quicker easier on the LB? You are going to force me write a big article breaking this down, with pretty pictures, aren’t you?

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 1:41 pm

Fine. But just so you know, I can’t promise correct spelling or grammar, a coherent thought, or that my pics will be appropriate or even football related.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 3:59 pm

You might only end up with three words in that case

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Reply to  ElPasoJason
01/31/2019 7:03 pm

With as bad as Hitchens was last year, he doesn’t really fit in the NFL and certainly not at the Mike. Mike has to be an all around type of player who can cover, be aggressive attacking gaps, and traditionally be the captain of the defense. Hitchens may have the prototypical body for the MLB role, but I don’t see the instincts or the speed playing well there.

Trouble is that we don’t have anybody else on the current roster who fits the bill.

stjoechief
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 11:59 am

So personnel-wise the front seven would be: Strong side DE (5-tech)–Bailey or Speaks, Strong side DT (1-tech)–Nnadi, Weak side DT (3-tech)–Jones, LEO or Elephant–Ford, SAM –Houston, MIKE–Hitchens, WILL–O’Daniel? From the article that looks like it would put Houston in coverage a lot, which isn’t any fan’s favorite thing to see. Does the MIKE come out in nickel or dime packages? Of the LB’s listed, Hitchens would be the one I want off the field on passing downs.

Leaf
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 12:12 pm

Interesting thought. Ford would be quicker than Houston, better to keep up with the RBs. But was his coverage that good last year? I honestly don’t remember.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 3:47 pm

Could we not put DOD in coverage? I get that won’t be the case all the time, but isn’t he more a hybrid LB/DB anyway?

WTF_Chiefs
WTF_Chiefs
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 5:12 pm

In most sub packages(non goal line)…you would pull the 1 tech, reduce SDE down and slide Sam down, if Sam can effectively rush passer

Leaf
Reply to  stjoechief
01/31/2019 12:10 pm

True, about Houston. But the issue we had with Houston in coverage was, at the time he was our best pass rusher and Bob was having him cover Antonio Brown. He’s still a good pass rusher, but the design of a 4-3u is better suited for a speed rusher at LEO, like ford, than a power rusher like Houston. So if we do go to a 4-3u, where do we put Houston? At SDE, his main job would be forcing a double team and run game. At SAM, he would mainly be responsible for the outside runs and pass coverage against TEs/RBs. Nether are exactly what people want to see out of Houston, especially considering his price tag.

stjoechief
Reply to  Leaf
01/31/2019 12:34 pm

The scheme appears to have only two positions that routinely rush the passer (LEO and 3-tech), with the other two DL positions eating blockers. I guess having too many starting caliber pass rushers is a good problem to have. I suspect there will be a lot more blitzing than under Bob.

Leaf
Reply to  stjoechief
01/31/2019 12:37 pm

Judging by spags past, yes there will be.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  stjoechief
01/31/2019 12:55 pm

Not totally true. PHI is still a 43 under squad, even today, & Cox does just fine getting his sacks.

Only stuffer is your 0/1 tech (Nnadi)

stjoechief
Reply to  go_saleaumua
01/31/2019 1:01 pm

So Houston could line up as the Strong side DE in passing situations and substitute a DB for the SAM (for one example out of many)?

Leaf
Reply to  ElPasoJason
01/31/2019 10:16 am

Personnel wise, this defenses is not going to look drastically different. The biggest difference is their responsibilities. Instead of the rush coming from the right and left OLBs, the primary rush comes from the LEO (weak side DE) and up the middle from the 3-tech DT. Because the 4-3u utilizes smaller players over a traditional 4-3 over, Ford and Jones fit those roles perfectly. The responsibility of everyone else is essentially to funnel the runner to the Will. If this defense is run correctly, the Will should always be your number one tackler as every gap should be closed and every blocker taken, giving the Will a clean shot at the runner.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
01/31/2019 7:31 am

Some compelling choices in the LB coaching pool, as suggested above (Sheridan, Pierce)….There are some good ones floating around unemployed, right now also (Mark Duffner, perhaps Frank Bush).

Since he’s coached (and played) LB & in the secondary, I’d imagine Spags has specific things he wants from his staff in those areas. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:43 am

Perhaps someone has to convince their wife to move and its not going well?

Or maybe the couple guys he wanted got scooped up already?

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:48 am

That makes sense, he will keep quiet about anything not food related.

Need to ask him … if you were to build the perfect cheeseburger and hand it to your new Linebacker coach, what would the coach’s name be?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  ElPasoJason
01/31/2019 11:04 am

Andy – (thinking) Why would i handover a perfectly delicious hamburger to someone else?

Dave B.
dave9600
Reply to  RDD India
01/31/2019 11:58 am

Because it doesn’t have cheese on it…

Come on, man. Pay attention!

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 6:56 am

Marcus Peters is right. The Chiefs should have won the AFC.
I will never understand giving Tom Brady the ball with 2 minutes, amd i will never understand kicking a FG with 11 secnds left on 2nd Down when you have Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelce, and Damien Williams to throw to. Stupid decisions.

Change as many coordinators and position coaches as you like. It’s not going to improve Andy Reid’s decisions.

Do you really think the Chiefs will make it to the Super Bowl with a new DC, new Defensive scheme and the same Offense? I don’t, but maybe I’m wrong.

Hell, I thought they were going to win it all this year, so hopefully I’m wrong again.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:10 am

Nah, #firereid. Great coaches like Charlie Weis are sitting on the sidelines, waiting to take this team to gloreeee!

/blinks eyes

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:20 am

Until he checks his calendar & realizes he has a haircut scheduled….rain check on that coaching gig?

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 7:08 am

He obviously should’ve called the non-touchdown scoring plays

rollin with mahomies
rollin with mahomies
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 7:17 am

Agreed, it’s crazy how close we were. Game of inches.

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Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 6:58 pm

The Brady narrative after that game bothers me a fair bit. Brady was the reason we were still in that game.

rollin with mahomies
rollin with mahomies
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 7:16 am

Spoiler alert – Andy Reid is not the reason we lost the AFC Championship.
However, Andy Reid is one of the reasons we were in the AFC Championship to begin with.

Take a look at the other coaches around the league, then look at the success Reid has had and given us here in KC. You must have forgotten about the RAC and Todd Haley years.

stjoechief
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 8:04 am

I agree that Reid got thoroughly out coached by Bill Belichek, but then, who hasn’t? AR has his flaws but I’d say he’s the second best head coach in the NFL. There’s an argument to be made for Pete Carroll as well, and Sean McVay may turn out to be great. Give me Big Red over either of them right now though.

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 8:26 am

I don’t understand all the negativity about the future of this team. We were in the AFC Championship Game for crying out loud. We took the best team for the last decade to overtime in the AFCCG. One play or call the other way and we are in the Super Bowl.

Blowing this team up and starting over accomplishes nothing and sets us back to the dark ages of Chiefs fandom.

There is not a coach out there better suited to run a Mahomes led offense. The defense needed a scheme/attitude change to go from the batter who swings for the fences everytime to the guy that would rather more consistently get singles with the occasional homer.

We just need to be able to get off the field. Solid tackling and stopping the run gets us where we need to go. We can win a shootout. We can’t win if you keep our offense off the field for a quarter at a time.

Tarkus
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 8:49 am

Do you really think the Chiefs will make it to the Super Bowl with a new DC, new Defensive scheme and the same Offense? I don’t, but maybe I’m wrong.

We were an offsides penalty and/or a coin flip away from going to the Super Bowl this year, with a first year 23 year old starting QB and Bob Sutton as our defensive coordinator. I don’t get the fatalistic attitude.

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief
Reply to  Chiefsfan115
01/31/2019 9:33 am

Wow. Cut down on the Bummer Flakes for breakfast brother. We played a very flawed game and still took them to OT. We were a coin flip away from victory. I get that it sucks always falling short but wow. Blowing up the whole team because it got to Championship game is back assward thinking.

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/31/2019 12:30 pm

Bum Flakes ! … Now Fortified w/ Corn Niblets !!! … : )

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