Morning Huddle: 4-0 Again

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Although I wish they’d beat the Pats at their best with Cam Newton, a win is a win. The Chiefs are 4-0 again. Grab yourself a cup o’ joe and get in the Huddle!

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What we learned from Chiefs’ win over Patriots  | NFL.com

4) Sure there was no Newton leading the Patriots. But the Chiefs defense was still outstanding. It did what it was supposed to do, wreaking havoc on the opponent in front of it. Ten points allowed, four takeaways, two sacks and a 4-0 start. That’s what happened Monday as four defenders were responsible for takeaways and big games were had by Mike Pennel, Daniel Sorensen and on down the line. While the offense found life in the second half for K.C., the defense was consistent throughout. 

Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs are first to 4-0 in four straight seasons | ESPN.com

The Chiefs came alive in the second half, as they usually do against the Patriots. Mahomes threw two touchdown passes and the Chiefs ran their record to 4-0 by winning 26-10. The Chiefs are the first team in NFL history to start four straight seasons 4-0 or better. They’ve had a winning streak of at least four games in every one of coach Andy Reid’s eight seasons.

Chiefs begin a fourth consecutive season 4-0 with 26-10 win over Patriots | PFT

Kansas City moved to 4-0, the first team in NFL history to start four consecutive seasons with four wins. The Patriots fell to 2-2. The Patriots’ mistakes finally caught up to them Monday night. They dropped two interceptions, took two unnecessary sacks that cost them at minimum six points and had four turnovers. New England needs Cam Newton to return soon.

New England Patriots turn to Jarrett Stidham at QB in loss to Kansas City Chiefs | ESPN.com

The New England Patriots benched veteran quarterback Brian Hoyer late in the third quarter of Monday night’s 26-10 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, turning to Jarrett Stidham in hopes of providing a spark to complement a defense that nobly held down an explosive Patrick Mahomes-led attack. It worked initially, but it was ultimately too late, sparking a question as to whether coach Bill Belichick might have helped the team by making the switch earlier.

Kansas City Chiefs rely on defense to beat the New England Patriots | AA

As the Patriots tried their best to get back into the game, Stidham had the Patriots picking up a few first downs before he tried to throw deep. It turned out to be the wrong move as Fenton picked off an underthrown ball for the team’s third interception. From there, the Chiefs defense held on a final drive and watched the Patriots turn it over on downs. The Chiefs won by a final score of 26-10.

Chiefs’ Players of the Game in Week 4 vs. Patriots | ChiefsWire

Another rough night for the offense, but Tyreek Hill was a bright spot. He caught four passes for 64 yards and one touchdown. The Bill Belichick-led defense really gave Kansas City a good matchup but Hill was still able to cause problems against a solid New England secondary that looked to take him away.

The defense made multiple plays that allowed the Chiefs to win this game. They picked off three Patriots passes and one of them got taken back for a touchdown. Second-year corner Rashad Fenton had one of the best games of his young career. Fenton deflected four passes, made three tackles, one tackle for loss, and intercepted a deep ball from Jarrett Stidham late in the game. There were a few guys who could have walked away as our Defensive Player of the Game like Tyrann Mathieu, Frank Clark, Taco Charlton, Mike Pennel or even Juan Thornhill but Fenton had himself a night.

KC Chiefs: Schedule needs to be shuffled after Week 4 game moved | KCK

If Chiefs-Patriots is indeed played Tuesday, as is now very possible, the Chiefs would enter a major schedule crunch with 3 games in just 9 days, as they play Buffalo on Thursday night in Week 6. While we’re all fortunate to have football, COVID-19 is going to make it difficult for the league to carry on every game as previously planned (see the Titans/Steelers game) and if there truly are times when the league can move games around, they might have to consider moving that Chiefs/Bills game either to that Sunday or to later in the year so that this team isn’t at a major disadvantage moving forward.

Michael Danna injury update: Chiefs lineman leaves with hamstring injury | AA

The Kansas City Chiefs will be without one of their best young surprises for the rest of Week 4 with the news that defensive end Michael Danna was ruled out with a hamstring injury. Danna suffered the injury against the New England Patriots on Monday night.

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zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 3:27 pm

Dov Kleiman

@NFL_DovKleiman

Unbeaten teams after a quarter of the season:
#Seahawks
#Packers
#Chiefs
#Bills
#Titans [3 games]
#Steelers [3 games]

Winless teams after a quarter of the season:
#Jets
#Giants
#Falcons
#Texans

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 3:26 pm

Matt Derrick
@mattderrick

Apparently BetOnline has declared the 4-0 Chiefs AFC West champions. They’ve taken the division off the board and are now paying out bets for the Chiefs to win the division.

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:59 am

Mike Reiss

@MikeReiss

Stephon Gilmore on plan vs. Chiefs: “I think we play physical with their receivers. We challenge each and every play. We play with good technique, and we get rush on the quarterback. That’s what it’s about – playing tight coverage, physical. Throwing a punch each and every play.”

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 1:20 pm

They played very well against Mahomes. I can’t remember seeing Mahomes standing in the pocket looking for open receivers for that long before.

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:58 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:57 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:56 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:52 am

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Last edited 3 months ago by zulu trader
HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
10/06/2020 11:42 am

This was a fun discussion before last night’s game about whether the Chiefs would go undefeated.

Last edited 3 months ago by HawaiiFiveOh
zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:41 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:40 am

John Doerty
John Doerty
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 12:06 pm

That feels like a pass rush move that loses more than wins. Glad he won this one though.

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:39 am

PFF KC Chiefs
@PFF_Chiefs

#Chiefs 2020 Week 4 Highest-Graded Defensive Player: CB Rashad Fenton – 83.1

• 81.1 Run Defense grade
• 4 Tackles, 3 Stops, 0 Missed Tackles
• 1 Interception
• 3 Pass Breakups

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:38 am

PFF KC Chiefs
@PFF_Chiefs

#Chiefs 2020 Week 4 Highest-Graded Offensive Player: LG Kelechi Osemele – 78.0

• 76.9 Pass Blocking grade
• 74.4 Run Blocking grade
• 0 Sacks or Hits Allowed
• 1 Pressure Allow

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:36 am

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:36 am

PFF KC Chiefs
@PFF_Chiefs

Among 12 #Chiefs defenders with 30+ snaps played, DE Frank Clark was the 2nd highest-graded, only behind CB Rashad Fenton.

• 70.0 Overall grade (Best since 2019 Week 15)
• 4 Pressures, 1 Sack, 2 Hits
• 3 Stops
• 0 Missed Tackles

John Doerty
John Doerty
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 12:07 pm

Damn…that’s a pretty good line for a 70.0. Tough crowd.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  John Doerty
10/06/2020 3:31 pm

slackator
slackator
10/06/2020 11:07 am

Butker needs a break, Im not worried about his kicking costing us a game but something is up, mechanics or something is off

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  slackator
10/06/2020 11:10 am

The line on special teams needs to block better, I think. Particularly up the middle. A lot of hands getting worryingly close to/touching the ball on its way up, and sooner or later we’re going to have an out-and-out blocked kick.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  slackator
10/06/2020 11:17 am

The Patriots made some distracting movement behind the line right before the kick. I’m wondering if that spooked him.

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  MasterChief
10/06/2020 11:33 am

PFF KC Chiefs
@PFF_Chiefs

#Chiefs P Tommy Townsend was the highest-graded punter of Week 4 and it wasn’t even close!

• 1st: Townsend: 80.9
• 2nd: Bryan Anger: 72.0

Townsend is now the 3rd highest-graded punter in the NFL

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 1:18 pm

What is that based on? Yards only?

He hit at least 2 punts right into the end zone. They were close to being great kicks but just a bit too far.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  MasterChief
10/06/2020 1:35 pm

Yeah the touchbacks were definitely irritating, but he had very good stats otherwise.

Punts – 4
TB – 2
IN20 – 1
Long – 65
Avg – 60.8 (!)
Net – 47.8

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Berserker
10/06/2020 3:29 pm

Ray Fittipaldo

@rayfitt1

Mike Tomlin was asked about new punter Dustin Colquitt and the punting game: “Not where we want to be. Not only with Dustin but with the group.”

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 3:58 pm

He is probably rusty. He hasn’t punted much the past couple of years.

Berserker
Berserker
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 7:25 pm

That sucks. I want to hear Dustin’s doing well, doesn’t matter what team he’s playing for.

Nasrani
Nasrani
10/06/2020 10:54 am

First NFL team to go 4-0 for four consecutive years… the WORLD CHAMPIONS just keep breaking records.

We take every record and wreck it
Repeat the feat ’til we’re legends…

ArrowFan
ArrowFan
10/06/2020 10:51 am

We cannot have a discussion on last nights calls without talking about the BS PI call on the Honey Bagger when he got his first INT. That call gave Boston their only TD.

Last edited 3 months ago by ArrowFan
slackator
slackator
Reply to  ArrowFan
10/06/2020 11:04 am

refs sucked equally for both teams. Yes the fumble/interception that wasnt is without a doubt an unbelievably bad call and one that will get remembered and brought up constantly because it happened to the Patriots and they and the media dont understand nobody cares about them, as you said the bogus PI that gave them their only TD was just as egregious, then the late hit on Mahomes out of bounds that wasnt called. It was a horribly reffed game

John Doerty
John Doerty
Reply to  slackator
10/06/2020 12:10 pm

I don’t know if the PI was JUST as egregious, but f’ them anyway. I can think of a MUCH worse forward progress call…..

zulu trader
zulu trader
10/06/2020 10:28 am

Still undefeated

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:13 am

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probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  zulu trader
10/06/2020 11:21 am

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probablyamistake
probablyamistake
10/06/2020 10:08 am

Can someone explain to me how stepping out of bounds is a flop? The defender grabs him while going out of bounds, his mistake.

Last edited 3 months ago by probablyamistake
Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  probablyamistake
10/06/2020 10:28 am

I wouldn’t even acknowledge the tweet. You just fell for a form of clickbait

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  Team Player
10/06/2020 11:36 am

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Slayer0810
Slayer0810
10/06/2020 10:03 am

The universe took its sweet time, but it looks like it finally tried to balance out that horrible DJ forward progress call from a few years ago.

I’m glad for the win, but those terrible calls are just destroying the game. Anyone with eyes calls that a strip-sack and return.

On the other hand, if there’s anyone who deserves some calls to go against them, it’s the Patriots. 🤷‍♂️

venturachief
venturachief
Reply to  Slayer0810
10/06/2020 10:28 am

Long way to go on that one. Even if last nights play would have resulted in a return, I have no doubt the Chiefs would have survived and won the game. It wasn’t a game breaking call. The forward progress call was, and it happened in a playoff game.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater
Reply to  venturachief
10/06/2020 10:29 am

I rewatched that play again last night. It still pisses me off

Big Chief
Big Chief
Reply to  Slayer0810
10/06/2020 10:45 am

There’s a world of difference between the Mariota call and this one. Mariota fumbled as soon as he was hit. The play with Mahomes was much more reminiscent of the old “in the grasp” calls a decade or so ago. Patriot player had him around the waist so Mahomes wasn’t going to get away but hadn’t been taken to the ground. Back in the day that was how a lot of QBs got hurt because a 2nd player would come in and nail him, that’s why they instituted the in the grasp rule. The ref blew his whistle last night when Mahomes was immobilized, even though he could still move his arms. The replay showed the ref blowing the whistle and I think he was signaling the play was dead as the ball was coming out.

So no, this is nothing like the Mariota play, in that there’s a valid argument this was actually the right call. No way you can do that for the Mariota play.

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