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Chiefs news for 21 December 2018

Chris Jones shrugs off his Pro Bowl snub, but J.J. Watt doesn’t | 247Sports

“Like I said, there’s a lot of guys around the league that probably should be in but didn’t (make it),” Watt said. “I think (T.J.’s) one of them. I think he’s extremely deserving with what he’s done all year. You look at Chris Jones from the Chiefs. I mean he’s a defensive tackle with 14 sacks. How you don’t make the Pro Bowl with that, I mean that kind of right there tells you all you need to know about the weight you should put into that.”

Seattle Seahawks are promising but not better than Kansas City Chiefs | Arrowhead Addict

Last Sunday, the Seahawks laid an egg against the San Francisco 49ers—a team they’d not only beaten two weeks prior by 27 points but also a team expected to vie for an early draft pick next April.  Before that, however, the Seahawks had reeled off 8 wins in 11 games, a streak that flummoxed experts who assumed that Pete Carroll’s team was too inexperienced to cause any real damage in 2018.

Riverside artist creates tribute to Chiefs star players in place of Christmas decorations | Fox KC

Take a drive down Gateway Avenue in Riverside, and it’s hard to miss the 20-foot-tall painting of Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes in Jeff Parson’s front yard. “I was like, ‘Am I going to do something for Christmas? But you know what? It’s fun being a Chiefs fan now,” Parson said. “There’s an excitement in the air that hasn’t been around in a long time. I mean, you can just feel it talking to people.”

Chris Jones uses gloves that ‘smell like a dead animal’ to chase sack streak | ESPN

Jones hasn’t changed gloves since and has at least one sack in 10 straight games, which ties an NFL record. He’ll go for the solo record Sunday night at the Seattle Seahawks.  “My gloves smell like a dead animal, but I won’t change them up because I’m very superstitious,” Jones said. “I won’t change the gloves at all. My teammates hate them. You can smell me coming.”

Former Ravens Coach: Seahawks may have ability to shut down Tyreek Hill | KC Star

Former Ravens coach Brian Billick believes the Chargers’ blueprint could be duplicated this Sunday by the Seahawks.

Analysis: Splurging to bolster running back depth not priority for Chiefs | KC Star

Unless the Chiefs shift their approach to the position, it’s unlikely the team adds a high-priced free-agent.

Rest of the West

Raiders QB Derek Carr nears NFL completions record | SF Chronicle

At 1,716 career completions, Carr can surpass Peyton Manning for the distinction with 34 over the Raiders’ final two games. Carr has already joined Manning as the only two quarterbacks to begin their NFL careers with five straight seasons of 300 or more completions, albeit during a season in which the Raiders are 3-11 heading into Monday’s home finale against the Broncos.

Raiders’ Marshawn Lynch pleads case to keep Athletics at Oakland city council meeting: ‘Best not lose the A’s’ | CBS Sports

It’s going to be a rough few years for Oakland sports. The Golden State Warriors are leaving Oracle Arena for the Chase Center in San Francisco across the bay in 2019, while the Oakland Raiders will be heading to Las Vegas. The Oakland Athletics have released a plan for a new stadium to replace the dilapidated Oakland Coliseum, but there’s still a lot of red tape to cross.

Report: Vance Joseph will be out as head coach after season | Mile High Report

In what will be welcome news to most Denver Broncos fans, a league source has let Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk know that John Elway intends to fire head coach Vance Joseph at the end of the season.

Denver Broncos: Adam Gotsis has been fantastic for second year in a row | Predominately Orange

Former second-round pick Adam Gotsis has been fantastic for the Denver Broncos two years in a row. He is getting it done in a variety of ways.

Chargers’ Keenan Allen expected to play against Ravens | ESPN

Los Angeles Chargers wide receiver Keenan Allen, who left last Thursday night’s game against the Chiefs with a hip pointer, is now expected to play Saturday night against the Ravens, a source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter on Thursday.

Chargers’ Philip Rivers and Ravens’ Eric Weddle, former teammates and close friends, will meet for first time in NFL game | LA Times

The two longtime teammates and all-time friends will battle as opponents, something they’ve done plenty of times in the past but never outside of practice. The two were teammates for nine seasons starting in 2007, after the Chargers drafted Weddle in the second round.

Rest of the Rest

Patriots WR Josh Gordon indefinitely suspended | NFL.com

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported that Gordon is facing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy, according to a source informed his status.

Cam Jordan says he wouldn’t rank Big Ben among top 5 QBs of this era | ESPN

Outspoken New Orleans Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan argued against Ben Roethlisberger’s case as a future Hall of Famer on Wednesday, saying he wouldn’t rank the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback among the top five of his generation.

Eric Reid’s coach, teammates annoyed at latest random drug test for Panthers player | USA Today

While Eric Reid is “not surprised” he’s been drug tested by the NFL six times in the past 11 weeks, his Panthers teammates and coaches are growing increasingly annoyed at the frequency of the league’s “random” drug testing policy.

Steelers add Smith-Schuster (groin) to injury report | NFL.com

For a Steelers team already dealing with an injury to running back James Conner, this is potentially a big blow as Pittsburgh is striving for a playoff berth as it tackles NFC South champion the New Orleans Saints on the road Sunday.

Patriots reportedly tried to trade for Demaryius Thomas, understood Josh Gordon might not last full season | CBS Sports

It turns out, the Patriots tried to prepare for this outcome. According to The Athletic’s Jeff Howe, the Patriots “recognized” that there was a chance Gordon wouldn’t play the entire season, which is why they tried to make a move for Demaryius Thomas before the trade deadline and refused to move Phillip Dorsett.

Eagles’ Chris Long builds locker-room shrine to Nick Foles | ESPN

Long is trying to keep the good vibes going via a Nick Foles shrine that he assembled on his locker shelf Thursday. There is a framed picture of Foles from his days with the St. Louis Rams, a personalized copy of Foles’ book, “Believe It,” and some religious candles to complete the effect.

NFL MVP, ROY and awards rankings: Where does Philip Rivers fit in the MVP conversation? | Yahoo Sports

Here are the MVP standings for this week:
1. Kansas City Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes 

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chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 5:35 pm
chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 11:37 am

So, I like Greg Williams as a coordinator. But why the f*** is that dude still in the league? He was caught on a recording telling players to go for the head. Concussions, give other players brain damage. The thing the league has been trying to keep quiet and sweep under the rug forever. He should have got a lifetime ban (good for image too). Instead, it’s likely Josh Gordon who gets a lifetime ban for pot. Seriously? Goodell is clown and the league is not serious. But we already knew that.

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/21/2018 11:32 am

Quick question. How do the rumors of Vance Joseph getting fired by the end of the year affect the Broncos in their next two games?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/21/2018 11:38 am

Probably not good. They might play hard for an interim coach or to save Joseph’s job. But if he’s already gone at the end, there’s not much to play for IMO.

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 1:33 pm

Would have been nice for them to play these next two games (Raiders, and Chargers) tough. Vance may get them to play well by pointing out that even if his fate is determined, theirs are not and they may all be fighting for their jobs right now.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
12/21/2018 5:51 pm

I think Elway took the path most likely to screw us.

Pelletman
Pelletman
12/21/2018 10:39 am

This has been such a shitty week with breakdowns and problems. HALF DAY MORE get me the fuck out of here and embrace the 4 day weekend.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:34 am

Before reading beyond the title, I thought Chris Jones was wearing the stinky gloves as a tactic to make people hesitant to touch him or something. lol

Panzer85
Panzer85
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:38 am

A lot of superstitions have basis in reality. Those holes in offensive lines don’t just open for no reason at all.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Panzer85
12/21/2018 10:41 am

I wouldn’t want to touch a guy who soaks his jersey in goat piss, that’s for sure. At least it’s not those damn dirty cut-blocking Bronco lineman with their Vaseline jerseys.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:48 am

Well there went my plans for the evening…

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/21/2018 1:34 pm

Interesting plans you make. Do I even want to know what you had planned that included goat piss and Vaseline?

starry1
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/21/2018 2:18 pm

Why? Doesn’t pornhub still show migdet porn?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:18 am

Billick may be an idiot.
The “blueprint” to stop Tyreek is to have his foot taken off 4 days prior. Seattle duplicating that will take some real wizardry.

ChiefOfTheWolfpack
ChiefOfTheWolfpack
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 11:04 am

How to stop Tyreek Hill

1: Hope to God that he get’s hurt in the previous game.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 11:57 am

I know right? I’ve been surprised at Billicks lack of research as an analyst.

Pelletman
Pelletman
Reply to  MasterChief
12/21/2018 12:01 pm

Eh, cut him some slack, it’s not every gamer where Beast Mode is going up against DJ.

SDNativeinTX
SDNativeinTX
12/21/2018 9:57 am

I was sad to hear the deal with Gordon yesterday. I am really hoping he can transition from “addict” to “recovering addict” for real before he goes out like Al WIggins. The only way I knew there was help available to me in 1985 was due to my Padre fandom and Wiggins well publicized stints in rehab. His never took. By God’s grace, mine did. A little piece inside me always hurts when I hear stories like this.

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  SDNativeinTX
12/21/2018 7:30 pm

Sorry Man,But, This lept to Mind …

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ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 9:46 am

Alright, that Bob Sutton response just earned my subscription… Hahaha amazing

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 10:46 am

Yas!

MC Sutton Death informed me last night over a warm cup of Metamucil that he plans to drop a rap track in the very near future. We’re making arrangements for Kwon Yuri to elaborate on the project.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 9:40 am

Wait do people actually think Roethlisberger isn’t a first ballot HoFer? re: Facts > Jokes tweet

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 10:12 am

IDK, but IMO Eli is not worthy of the HOF.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:16 am

Neither was Troy Aikman

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 10:21 am

Yeah, Eli will get in. My problem is that SBs should not = HOF. It’s a team game. Eli’s stats are butt and he’s led the league in ints too many times. I realize stats also should not = HOF, so my real reason for keeping him out is that he has never been considered an elite QB during his career. If you can’t make at least top 5 at some point in your career, no dice.

Panzer85
Panzer85
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:41 am

Agreed. Superbowls are team efforts. Look at the all the hot messes that have rings and tell me they took their team to the big game. Search top 10 worst quarterbacks with SB rings and you’ll see Eli up there with Flacco and Dilfer.

SDNativeinTX
SDNativeinTX
Reply to  Panzer85
12/21/2018 10:46 am

Trent freaking Dilfer has a ring — that’s all I need to know about SB = HoF.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Panzer85
12/21/2018 10:47 am

Eli, Dilfer, Flacco, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams all average at best.
I’d even go so far as to say Bradshaw shouldn’t be in either. The game was different and I can’t really say I know much about that time. Someone else may be able to weigh in on how good Bradshaw was compared to his peers, but he doesn’t look too great to me.

larch
sydenham
12/21/2018 8:45 am

Yup, morning huddle is great! The Bob Sutton video: weird and wacky, just like the season, I think I heard a Hitchens and Ragland reference in the lyrics. Always a shame to see talent flame out, JG, hope you figure things out, sounds like the Pats did but just a little too late. No question Patrick is the mvp, y’all here have made the arguments, he just is.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  sydenham
12/21/2018 9:49 am

The randomness of comments in every morning’s Arrowheadlines was the best part of waking up. Morning Huddle captures that and then some..

Feels like when I joined AP back in 2009… Fo da community, by da community. In such a short time, these Guys are already doing some fantastic work.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  sydenham
12/21/2018 10:50 am

“Hitchens is a bum, Ragland is straight dumb.
Veach sure missed the memo I need corners that run”

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/21/2018 10:54 am

Siri, set lyrics to: ‘Jingle Bells’

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 8:30 am

And another thing, anyone (other than fans) leaving Chris Jones and Mitch Schwartz off their pro-bowl ballots should be Dr.Pepper-slapped. Players that make all-pro should not miss pro-bowls, it’s just too asinine to compute.

Mink Farmer
Mink Farmer
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 9:31 am

What is a “Dr. Pepper slap?”

dragon6172
dragon6172
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/21/2018 9:57 am

I imagine it is like that scene from Maximum Overdrive where the soda cans come shooting out of the vending machine

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh
Reply to  dragon6172
12/21/2018 10:33 am

That was one of my favorite movies as a kid. And a great soundtrack too.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Mink Farmer
12/21/2018 10:09 am

Pecker-slap -> Pecker -> Pepper -> Dr. Pepper -> Dr. Pepper-slap
Didn’t want to get too vulgar, but still convey my displeasure. lol

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 10:13 am

Using that over at AP could get you into some real Barney!

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 10:13 am

Done-ski.

starry1
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 2:22 pm

Dude, just say dick-slapped.

ChiefZed
ChiefZed
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 11:06 am

Agree on Jones, but I’m not so sure about Schwartz. I think his play has been slipping this season. He gave up a sack to Von and struggled Thursday vs Ingram. He’s still good, but Veach and Reid need to start casting about for his successor.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  ChiefZed
12/21/2018 11:22 am

He’s had a few struggles this season, and it’s more noticeable because he’s usually a wall. Getting beat by Von one time in two games is not going to cost you an all-pro either.
Also consider that some of his “struggles” should be attributed to Mahomes as well. There have been a few instances (last game against Ingram, for a specific example) where Pat has dropped back too far and Schwartz gets screwed.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 8:24 am

Chiefiest thing ever. We finally get our franchise QB (since Lenny anyway). He puts up huge numbers compared to other QBs in the league his first season. Would be unanimous MVP for any other team’s player EVERY year. But alas, crooked media looks for any and every reason it shouldn’t be Mahomes. Sickening. I for one, will not be giving national media one iota of my attention for the rest of his career.

Team was already good
Infinite amount of weapons
ANDY REID
Product of system
Product of rule changes

Blah blah blah. All bunk. Anyone that actually watches the games (clearly not the box score sniffing, statistically illiterate media) can see that Pat’s transcendent talent puts this team on his back weekly. This team has a defense that can’t stop a paper sack from blowing down the field, a rash of injuries, and a coach who couldn’t manage the clock on a Rolex.

Seriously, EVERY week they hand the ball to Pat and say:
Convert 5 3rd & longs today or we lose
Score 30+ or we lose
Go 70 yards in < 2 minutes or we lose

Dude does the impossible nearly every week. The glorious day Mahomes wins his first superbowl should result in the Chiefs Kingdom's rightful place on the throne and the media's gnashing of teeth. Instead, it will just be an offseason of Mahomes' luck, too many good players, rule changes, bad officiating, other team choke job, and other fecal matter belched from the belly of that beast. F*** 'em, lets not stop at one superbowl.

Team Player
Team Player
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 9:34 am

You missed all the times he overcame holding penalties. First and 20? We got this. Easy peasy.

Remember the Chiefs are far and away the most penalized team in the league and it’s not all PI and defensive holding.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Team Player
12/21/2018 10:11 am

Yeah, penalties aren’t the drive killers they once were. Add in the improvised plays, subtract the bad sacks. It’s just crazy how much of a difference he makes.

KCChef
KCChef
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
12/21/2018 7:35 pm

The Chiefiest thing I remember in Recent History is having the # 1 Pick Overall & Having Nothing but # 2 To pick From …

hatcreekcattlecmpny
hatcreekcattlecmpny
12/21/2018 8:19 am

if anything TJ Watt should have been in over JJ’s teammate, clowney.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
12/21/2018 7:35 am

Just gonna say, people who aren’t Chiefs fans don’t really understand PMII. I read an interesting (though incorrect) over on WCG that made the argument that Mack should be the MVP because of his impact on the Bears defense. I saw the following comment on that article:

Mack is the most valuable because of the difference he has made, plus his actual production. Mahomes has given a 10-6 team a minor bump to 11-3, Donald has big numbers on a poor defense, etc. Mack has come in and turned a last place team to a Division winner with 2 games to spare.

I think people (or at least this one person) assume that because our record isn’t that much better than last year that our team wasn’t impacted that much by PMII. But what they don’t see is that our defense has been worse and our o-line play has been significantly worse — yet we’re still one of the best offenses in the game. While PMII has had his “rookie” moments, he’s done incredible things to help us win that no other QB in the game could do.

ericfrommo
ericfrommo
Reply to  Slayer0810
12/21/2018 7:48 am

if smith was at the helm this we would be looking at 8-8 this year with the gauntlet of a schedule we have played.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  ericfrommo
12/21/2018 8:19 am

At best

njchieffan16
njchieffan16
Reply to  Slayer0810
12/21/2018 8:01 am

Lol. That’s lazy analysis, if I’ve ever seen it. Without Mahomes, this is, at best, a 7-7 team right now. Also, Mack is not the reason the other teams in their division suck. Vikings are Meh.

Leaf
Reply to  njchieffan16
12/21/2018 9:32 am

If all you had to do was turn around a bad team, Alex should have won in 2013.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread
Reply to  Slayer0810
12/21/2018 9:58 am

Hey AG anything that can be done about not centering block quotes?

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  ArrowSpread
12/21/2018 11:37 am

Well, you certainly can break it yourself if you try hard enough. Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  Slayer0810
12/21/2018 1:06 pm

Well, I thought it was briefly left-aligned by injecting css into the blockquote tag. Looks like my code was discarded/overridden at some point though.

njchieffan16
njchieffan16
12/21/2018 7:28 am

Really hope we beat the Seahawks. I’m cautiously optimistic we will. But I’m definitely scared that we lose the 1. I think the Chargers are definitely winning out.

Panzer85
Panzer85
Reply to  njchieffan16
12/21/2018 7:37 am

I wouldn’t say definitely. It’s Phyllis Rivers we’re talking about and Broncos might come through with a good spoiler. As far as Lamar and the Ravens go, well…

https://mobile.twitter.com/LamarJacksonEra/status/1075948600306384896?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Slayer0810
Slayer0810
Reply to  njchieffan16
12/21/2018 7:39 am

You might be right. I just don’t see the Chargers beating the Ravens. I think the pass rush will put too much pressure on Rivers and we’ll see another:

Panzer85
Panzer85
Reply to  Slayer0810
12/21/2018 7:41 am

It must feel great to be that mad while getting paid so much. ?

zulu trader
zulu trader
12/21/2018 7:22 am

Good job WMD! love my news in the morning

Maw423
Maw423
12/21/2018 6:53 am

Road Kill Jones!!!

Great job again WMD! Makes for great reading while I wait for the linehaul truck to show up so I can statt my 13 hour drive. Jokes on them, I’m paid by the hour ???

Jason from El Paso
ElPasoJason
Reply to  Maw423
12/21/2018 7:41 am

Ha! Just get your hands on the chest of that Oline and then they pass out from the smell …. easy sack!

WTF_Chiefs
WTF_Chiefs
12/21/2018 6:38 am

Been a busy week but finally have time available and got to say…..Lovin the new look

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  WTF_Chiefs
12/21/2018 6:39 am

Shout out to AGmember TravisKelce for the help in that department!

He also designed quite a few of the logos you see on the site.

backbone313
backbone313
12/21/2018 6:35 am

So you dont say… the NFL record books will have to be rewritten with all the rules changes favoring the offense. That Patrick Mahomes is just a product of said rule changes. Guess what???

And now fans around the world understand why the Chiefs fans are gitty (insert slow evil laugh to over doing evil laugh) that we have a Mahomie!

Anthony Stratton
12/21/2018 6:30 am

RED FRIDAY FOOLS!!!!

zulu trader
zulu trader
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
12/21/2018 7:08 am

BHQV use # 7; Red Friday’s preferred beverage

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  zulu trader
12/21/2018 7:10 am

The Matt Cassel of uses.

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