Into the Afternight, Your 3rd Shift Open Thread.

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Yay, only had to correct one typo in the headline, this time edition.

We seem to have a fugitive on our hands. Do we need a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, farmhouse, hen house, outhouse and dog house in the area?

Meanwhile, the general tone of the conversation seems to be returning to the normal level of sarcasm, snark, and smart-assery, so I consider this to be a sign that most of us are recovering. Bring it, people.

With that, time’s yours.

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Tyrone
01/26/2019 4:33 am

When did Rick Rubin buy out arrowheadguys?
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Anthony Stratton
Reply to  Tyrone
01/26/2019 8:16 am

You say that like its a bad thing…

RDD India
RDD India
01/26/2019 1:21 am

I heard on radio the other day that Reggie wasnt 100% for ‘some time’ this year and his knee was still bothering him. It got better towards the later part (where in he started to get lesser snaps BTW). I didnt notice anything ever..not in all those 17 games. smh.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:28 am

Personally, I was blaming it on physical regression. Hitchens – mental. But we’re back at square 1 again with everyone. Not sure Ragland has a home in Spaghettio’s 4-3 though.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:39 am

Reggie is goner IMO. He cant cover shit. Not mike, sam and nothing for him. Give him whever we can and say good bye. We got others whom we can spend our couching resources on.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 4:42 am

Absolutely agree. And I myself won’t do any changes in personnel or otherwise as demanded by me. I like to vent and bitch and moan. And, where can I vent and get away with it? 🙂

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:37 am

sarcasm?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 5:44 am

*10000. Agreed.

Tyrone
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 2:46 am

Says Reggie’s agent trying to swindle another team into giving him another shot after he gets cut.

Tyrone
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 4:29 am

9.30pm here, so neither?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:37 am

What do you guys think the next step in maturation for Mahomes will be next season? This year he seemed to be calling the protections pretty well and reading the defense. But I don’t think he had the green light for hot routes or audibles. I’m hoping they add that to his arsenal next season.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:51 am

Next step: knowing when to throw the ball away and not take the hit

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/26/2019 12:54 am

Ain’t that the truth. He took a ton of shots, usually while making a big time throw though.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:56 am

Also : Sticks matter. Some one in the corner near sticks is first priority over demons streaking across double and triple covered.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:58 am

Also took some huge sacks that way that set us back

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/26/2019 1:01 am

Yeah, those really hurt on 3rd down especially. 3rd and long doesn’t seem to bother him that much. lol

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:11 am

I think nothing bothers pat much. For him it’s always biggest play he can make. And i love him for that. Kid is born that way.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:26 am

I’d point a finger at Ron Parker and say, “Yer fired!” but Reid/Veech already did that.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:40 am

especially true if you are a coach.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:41 am

My reasons for firing a player are simply that they are simply not as good as the player replacing them. I think players can respect that. Firing a player over a single football instance is childish and Raider-like.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:42 am

And repeat mental mistakes. I think some mental stuff can be overcome by coaching and practice. Some shits just immovable. That deserves firing.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:05 am

I personally think Reggie can be good backup. Don’t know how much would be cost. I would love me some run stopper.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:36 am

Hey while what you say is right, I think we would have gone nuts had he made some play like tossing it to hill or someone like in ravens game. Kid is wired to make wild splashy plays. I am not so sure we can coach him outta that. And yea, we will lose few games but also win many.
BTW again…fuck sutton. He made me feel ashamed in front of my friends. One fucker called me from US in the midnight just to rub shit in my face. Couldnt justify one single play. Fuck dat.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:53 am

Wait, he’s gone?
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chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:01 am

As you wish.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:10 am

Hah. I accept that. Sometimes i GRT boneheaded esp. when countered with sane, rational and logical thoughts. BRAG but you cant stop or give up. You are the sane and reasonable voice here.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:07 am

Agreed. I’m not ready tp call him either (May be sample size is not enough). May be he is and will be great under center. May be Andy’s already working on that. Sure as hell he will be great if he learns/ unleashes that coming year.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:12 am

Physically: I think he needs to improve his deep ball accuracy and get more air under it.
Mentally: continue improvement on reading coverages/protections, not taking sacks when in FG range, not taking huge hits in the pocket.

Hopefully he will get more options with hot routes and audibles because he’s started to recognize when he’s in a bad play, but he can’t do anything about it yet.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:16 am

I think he will learn to dignose those disguises and coverages pretty soon. And may be by now he’s seen most. Andy being in his ear all the time helps even more. I think he hit deep balls pretty good early in the season than in the later part. Dont have the stats but my gut feeling. Also i think it would be tremendous if he can hit them WRs in stride.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:38 am

I don’t know if he really needs to work on under center work. Not a huge priority anyway. The league mostly plays out of shotgun these days.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 1:51 am

I’m sure Andy is having all the fun drawing up fun things for his buddy Mahomes.
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Tomahawk
Tomahawk
01/25/2019 11:53 pm

Still feeing dead inside.

That game took a lot out of me. Probably shortened my life by 5 years. If this keeps up the Chiefs are going to kill me before I hit 40. Haha.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/25/2019 11:55 pm

Hey for me it was cardio. Could’ve sweared it went and stayed above 170 for least two weeks.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:59 am

Absolutely. Now looking back I feel bad for being mopey over last few days.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:13 am

Absolutely teacher. I gotta move on and look at brighter sode esp. for next year. And BTW I have been never happier in life when we smoked those colts. Awesome wasn’t it?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:41 am

^20000. I agree man. And then he also raised fine family right around KC too. I heard his interview. Seems classy guy. Must’ve been a painful traumatic experience but didn’t blame anyone. Class.

Yoshii
Yoshii
01/25/2019 11:30 pm

Don’t despair…big sexy is here….

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:42 pm

Can we keep him on another foot?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:23 pm

We’re gonna need one of them industrial SSSA (Sarcasm, Snark, Smart-Assery) meters. Our current setup won’t last, captain!

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RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:27 pm

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Anthony Stratton
Admin
01/25/2019 11:23 pm

Interesting late breaking development. The article that said Mike Smith had been fired along with Sutton and other assistants has been updated, and that part has been deleted.

So….back to: who knows?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:29 pm

Hey that’s the guy I wanted to keep. Cant stunt development of ford, kapaas. Now can we? Fuck packers for trying to steal him.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:51 pm

I agree and see what you are saying. But given a chance, I would evaluate who o got before I start replacing them. One thing I’ve learned, right people with right attitude matter more than their skills. Mat be spats got better coaches. Who knows. He also deserved to bring in his team. But but….. can we keep Mike smith pls? He did good with ford and CO.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:18 am

Tamba would be great, but I think he has other interests and may be done with football for a while.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:21 am

Tamba ? As coach? Hell Yeah!

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:29 am

Gotcha 😉
Certain guys mean a lot to KC. Of them, certain ones would make good coaches. I hope they go that route because I think Reid is a great teacher for young coaches.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:39 am

Absolutely. I would like to see Andy’s tree vs BB’s tree in a game. I feel like Andy’s team would wipe the floor with BB’s team 8/10.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:42 am

AR Tree beat BB straight up in th SB last year. So…..

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
01/26/2019 1:27 am

And they would everytime too. BB’s just got to be stopped cheating

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:42 am

And what’s more is no one enjoys BB. Coaches or staff. I don’t get how you can enjoy watching that.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:10 am

Tamba had some kung fu guru teaching him those hand techniques. Didnt he? He can teach those to Ford and easpecially Jones. Next time Jones can strike down darth tommy with his Wuxi Finger Hold .
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chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 1:15 am

I don’t miss seeing Tamba coming around the corner in a choke-hold though.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:32 am

Me neither. Sometimes I feel our pass rush lacks that intensity or edge. Something that QBs should have bad dreams about, something to terrorize and hurt a little.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 2:44 am

Could’ve been. Kung fu was my ignorant take. But Tamba seemed improved in his hand technique after that. So tamba can contribute right away.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 10:37 am

This would mean firing Britt Reid then.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:21 am

I see EB in similar mould. Ok, had a weird thought- can we restructure EB and then with zero cap impact release him only to bring him back on as coach with highest ever paid coaching assistant? That could work wont it?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 12:23 am

We would get too many sideline flags for having a coach on the field.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:32 am

I would forfeit the game and playing with wussies.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 12:34 am

Already played the Patriots.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:34 pm

Weird. Packers stories are still reporting him as their’s.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:39 pm

Yes, the story was just changed to say he (and other assistants) weren’t fired. Or rather, they just deleted the part about people being fired. so maybe he wasn’t fired, maybe he was. Maybe other assistants weren’t fired, maybe they were.

Chiefs website still shows all the assistants, including Smith. Only Sutton has been swapped out by Spags.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:42 pm

Hmmm…
I smell double agent? Or double dipping? Either way, DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION. Tony, on the case!

A Lunar Ting
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:48 pm

I wanted to be careful on that. When I first saw that…

RDD India
RDD India
01/25/2019 11:22 pm

Agree anyone?

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  RDD India
01/25/2019 11:24 pm

Most def

Falco16
Falco16
Reply to  RDD India
01/25/2019 11:24 pm

Me I Agree! My all time favorite back in the fold hells yeah.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/25/2019 11:24 pm

Without a doubt. I hope he does it sooner than later, Lord knows we still need him. Plus, the guy just plain loves football.

Falco16
Falco16
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:34 pm

It sure I agree with the “not directly on the staff”

I’d be fine with him as the LB coach. I’m guessing that is what you meant. He has great knowledge of the game. The homer in me says he’d be great.

What capacity would you be willing to see him in?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Falco16
01/25/2019 11:36 pm

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Anthony Stratton
Reply to  Falco16
01/25/2019 11:40 pm

I could see something like Vick, a special assistant. Someone who comes in and observes how to teach.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:45 pm

Start with quality control over LBs .

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:56 am

I don’t remember those complaints when he was drafted. I for one lost my shit when we drafted him. I didn’t think there was a chance he fell to us or that we would be smart enough to take him.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:18 am

Haley’s pound seems to have help him too. Can he be chief of pound?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 1:23 am

Glad my memory is very selective on these kinda controversies. But I liked DJ52 right from the get go.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 1:30 am

I think most of the criticism was right around the time before Haley got here and fired him up again.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:44 pm

He can work with DOD. And watch over hitchens in the pound. U

RDD India
RDD India
01/25/2019 11:14 pm
Falco16
Falco16
Reply to  RDD India
01/25/2019 11:24 pm

I’m hyped up on how the scheme change can be a good thing. I have to trust Andy here as far as the hire goes.

It’s tough because Andy stuck with Bob too long so I’ve got trust issues there, and Andy has made bad hires at DC before. At least this time he didn’t pick an OLine coach.

I keep telling myself we have better talent on that side of the ball than has been shown, and Not Bob will put them in a position to succeed.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Falco16
01/25/2019 11:35 pm

Agree. Lots of folks saying we got little or no talent. Come on. As you say, we got pretty good heap. Ward, filler, ford, kpass, holy moly jones, Nnadi, Lucas, to name few. Houston and berry can be the leaders. We want someone who can coach, light fire and bring passion. Also someone who wont need Andy’s attention and can D. I think Spagy brings all that. Now as far as position coaches are concerned, we have good dline coaches. DB and linebackers is something we gupta rebook at.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:11 pm

I’m not content to just let Tony take this one for the team. I’ll let it play out, but meanwhile I’ll be working on my time machine and T800 to avenge Tony.
This may take a minute.
Better break out the BHQV.

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RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:15 pm

Hah! Material X?

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:23 pm

Haha. ?????

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:25 pm

Still disappointed no one mentioned the Back to the Future references in my satire piece about fans being upset the Chiefs hadn’t won a playoff game in 7 days…

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:29 pm

It’s been a minute. Were you referencing the second one where he gets the sports almanac and the Cubs win the WS?

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:34 pm

No. The two “fans” I interviewed at Walmart…Emmett Brown and B. Tannen? Brown says he wishes there was a way to go back in time and re-live that day…Tannen adds “I’d rather bewaxing my boss’s car than go another day without a playoff win”

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:38 pm

I must have missed that article entirely because there’s NO way I would have missed ‘Mad Dog’ Tannen.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:51 pm

Ohhhh yeah. Out of town for that weekend. Definitely would have caught that one, but filled it with used pinball machine parts.
Wait, this might be part of a message. BB sent a gang of Libyan Nationalists after you, didn’t he? That twisted old codger…

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/26/2019 12:45 am

I saw it, wanted to comment something about BUTT HEAD, but couldnt come up with anything clever that quick.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
01/26/2019 12:46 am

If I had a nickel for every time I thought that…

Falco16
Falco16
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:30 pm

Made me think. I remember when we won our first playoff game in 22 years and we though monkeys we’re shed. Then we had two years of epic failures.

This year we shed a 25 year old monkey. There are two things left. Bring home the family trophy, and then get a Lombardi.

I’m hoping that the first of those is less than 365 days away and the second is merely two weeks after that.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Falco16
01/25/2019 11:37 pm

Wow. We really seem to have forgotten the proverbial monkey. Now seems we got new orangutan on our back and that’s beating hoody. I think this offseason we are planning to get there

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/26/2019 12:11 am

I just watched a video of Shannon Sharpe (and Skip) talking about why Reid isn’t a great coach. He was using examples about Shannyham. I looked into his record, he was a bum of a coach with out Elway.
So I got to thinking, what will be Reid’s greatest coaching job? Seriously, if he wins 3 Superbowls with an ultra-talented Mahomes, I think it still might not be his best. What he did with an average QB in McNabb really sticks out. He won a historically tough division how many times with AS11? He did what with Vick? Andy can coach his butt of guys, and I’m excited to see how far the Chiefs can go with this pairing.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:29 am

Agree on Andy. I think he’s the best I ever watched. Hoodie didn’t do jack shit without tommy boy.
Also I think Andy will do what’s moral to victory than being cut throat like hoody. That’s the complete SB win for me. I will take 1 SB by Andy over 50 bu hoodie. I still think SB as a whole is not just trophy for the sake of winning it. Like Andy, winning it has to make positive contribution and take society forward in General.
Rat face just rode Elway and CO. Some are born to do that.
If Mahomes is what I think he is, May not be a gold digger as some folks think. I see bright bright future for KC with him and Andy come next 5 years.

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:46 pm

May be we are not ready yet.:)
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chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/25/2019 11:53 pm

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RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:06 am

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chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  RDD India
01/26/2019 12:13 am

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RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/26/2019 12:30 am

LOL. Cant imagine doing that or getting IN there in the first place.

Rocketman39
Rocketman39
01/25/2019 11:10 pm

the best open thread on the internet today…

RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  Rocketman39
01/25/2019 11:11 pm

Cant say otherwise. Where is BRAG?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/25/2019 11:18 pm

Well, at least it’s better thought out that way and less mind vomit.

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RDD India
RDD India
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:24 pm

I disagree. NOT ME! Stop looking at me!!

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Rocketman39
01/25/2019 11:26 pm

FIFY
Best open thread on ArrowheadGuys today! 😉

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:28 pm

That hurts.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:32 pm

Gotta wake you up somehow. (notice you’re not NOT-ta2tony lol)

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:34 pm

Thats right. I’m back!

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:40 pm

Well, good. Now I can stop working on the T800 that I haven’t started and my time machine to fix that paradox.

Anthony Stratton
Reply to  chief_curmudgeon
01/25/2019 11:42 pm

…or am I?

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/25/2019 11:46 pm

Well damn, I’ll fire it back up again while powered on Bert’s.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  Anthony Stratton
01/26/2019 12:49 am

Dont stay still long. The henchmen will be on your trail. And with them comes hell hounds, at least Meat Loaf sang of hell hounds.

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