Into the Afternight, Your 3rd Shift Open Thread.

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Today I learned that an offense that only scored seven points in three quarters isn’t a problem when it comes to winning games, and that firing one person will fix everything that’s wrong, even though he had nothing to do with the offense. Guess jumping out to a two-TD lead means nothing in terms of winning a game, and for the defense, playing from ahead and playing from behind is identical.

Oh, and anyone who wants to leave here because I won’t agree with them? See ya. Staff or not, I have no obligation to agree with anyone, so if you don’t like people disagreeing with you, this isn’t a place you’ll like.

What did y’all learn today, children of the night?

With that, time’s yours.

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Tyrone
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 3:38 am

I haven’t really been following all the comments, but I’m not really seeing anyone telling you to shut up at the moment. Maybe let’s just change topics for a while and wait and see what the morning huddle has in terms of Chiefs news?

Macksdaddy
Macksdaddy
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 8:08 am

Who cares if people don’t agree with you, your entitled to your opinion & you know what they say about opinions. Don’t worry what others think BRAG do your thing

Macksdaddy
Macksdaddy
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 8:06 am

Who told you to shut up? But I do disagree with you on almost all levels of the game

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:49 am

Pretty disappointed in a lot of whiny fucks that act like this outcome wasn’t a possibility in their minds prior to kickoff

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 1:13 am

Yeah man. Attack the fans. That’s always a solid approach.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 1:44 am

They’re literally the only ones whining

Did you see mahomes face during the post game interview? And did he cry like a child? He did not

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 1:50 am

He’s also 23

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:34 am

Can’t tell if it’s the Berts tonight… but I’m starting to come back to life. 2019 kickoff needs to hurry up.

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:36 am

Hard to wash this taste out of my mouth without Mahomes getting back on the field. Sad we have to wait for 9 fucking months.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:41 am

After the probowl*

Too soon?

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:45 am

Yeah. That doesn’t count. In fact I’m pretty pissed off the Chiefs are representing there.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:47 am

Better than being pissed on

Also better than going 8-8 like the majority predicted

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:49 am

LOL.

Don’t start. The best QB to enter the NFL in 20+ years put this team on his back. 8-8 was out the window after week 3

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:50 am

Did I say when that was the majority opinion? We had a lot of info by week 3, much easier call then. But we can run with your bullshit and say that it wasn’t super bowl or bust even after week 3

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 1:01 am

Hey man, I’m not trying to start some argument here.

I never put a win-loss number on this season. All I knew is I was excited to see our franchise QB in action.

Sorry if I’m running some “bullshit”. That’s not my angle

Actually by week 3 I was saying to friends a AFC CG appearance is a win this season. But seeing how close it was… seeing what could have been… it stung last night bro. After seeing how good this offense and Mahomes was… it was hard to swallow.

But hey man, I’m Im not sure what I did to piss you off. I didn’t mean to. I’m just being real with where I am. Calm down brother.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 1:47 am

I agree with this whole post

It stung

It’s hard to swallow

It happened, on to the next one

Times yours 😉

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 1:49 am

Oh and I forgot to mention, I’m not pissed off at all, at you, in general.

I’m just the rickest mother fucker you’ll ever meet and I can’t be anything but

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:49 am

Keep drinking that berts and you’ll likely get to experience that pissed on thing

Let me know which one you prefer

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:52 am

I handle my Berts just fine, thanks. What I have a harder time handling is repeated let downs by an incompetent defense.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Tomahawk
01/22/2019 12:53 am

It’s not new, we have been here before (most can’t act like it)

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 1:05 am

True enough. Hopefully Sutton is fired tomorrow and we can move on.

Macksdaddy
Macksdaddy
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 8:11 am

But the facts are that we had a historically great offense & a shit defense thems is the facts also had 2 4th quarter leads & a game winning interception but…..

4thQtrMagic
01/21/2019 11:32 pm

Switched off today, and just reflected. I find my skin is a little thicker. It’s been conditioned from years past. There’s a bunch of excuses, and it’s really easy to finger point. But Damnit when it comes down to it, we were right there and couldn’t finish. Ouch.
Still the Chiefs had a mighty season. Far better than I predicted. We have one hell of a team! And we will be dominate for years to come. That’s the good news. I look forward to the future.

2018 Chiefs division winners, 1st seed, made it to the AFC championship game! That’s a pretty good haul.

Thank you Arrowhead Guys staff. I know today was difficult but you stepped up. Keep up the good work.

4thQtrMagic
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/21/2019 11:50 pm

Preach! Your so right man! Pissed me off earlier today when someone pinned this whole game on Ford. It was a team effort. Personally after a bit of reflection, it was one good game! We went toe to toe with the goat in a huge game!

I like your style BRAG!

Straybrit
Straybrit
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 12:24 am

Actually BRAG, I think you, Tony and the other “staff” have been pretty amazing over the last 24 hours. I’m pretty thick skinned and phlegmatic but if I’d been on the receiving end of some of those comments and I’d been in the position to do so there would have been fewer people in this site.

So hats off and thanks to you all

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 12:38 am

Mahomes proved he can go toe to toe with a living legend. If the defense just gets a little better… we are an absolute powerhouse and the class of the AFC.

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 1:27 am

Man, after last night I don’t think many people nationally think KC won’t be back. That was the best AFCCG in 15 years. Against a perennial SB team… the Pats and Brady. It was an epic game. The way it went into OT, the way Mahomes lead us back in the final minutes… this is a team that is right on that cusp. They’ll be back. Everyone KNOWS that.

Tyrone
01/21/2019 11:19 pm

I guess I’m starting to look forward to off season stuff, draft, free agency, coaching speculation, etc.

I don’t think I’ll be able to watch the Super Bowl. Be interesting to see how many AGers will actually watch it.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  Tyrone
01/21/2019 11:32 pm

Im hoping for meteor strike the 3rd. Im not watching Brady take a dive to help the league cram Los Angeles down my damn throat some more.

Rocketman39
Rocketman39
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
01/22/2019 12:43 am

You’re telling me, including this super bowl, 3 of the big 4’s championships involved 1 California team, and Vegas got a pass because they were an expansion team.

Rocketman39
Rocketman39
Reply to  Rocketman39
01/22/2019 12:45 am

I also officially hate Boston, I got a former co-worker who was just the most annoying Red Sox/Pats/Celtics fan and it makes me puke knowing atleast one of them will make their finals every season for some reason. Being a KC sports fan is so much more difficult (but the wins I hope are sweeter)

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  Rocketman39
01/22/2019 12:57 am

The sweetness isn’t comparable and that’s one of the things we have to look forward to, it’s coming. If you read between the lines Andy basically guaranteed a super bowl berth in his post game pc

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  4everLurkin
01/22/2019 12:58 am

What stands out to me is that he’s not anywhere close to the type of guy to make a claim like that

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron
Reply to  Rocketman39
01/22/2019 1:08 am

BUCK FOSTON AND CUCK FALIFORNIA AND ALL THESE LEAGUES THAT THROW INTEGRITY OF SPORT TO THE WIND TO CATER TO CERTAIN POPULATION AREAS AND FAN BASES BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM MORE MONEY, I HATE THEM ALL.

Rocketman39
Rocketman39
Reply to  Fire_FG_the_moron
01/22/2019 1:10 am

^basically me

Tomahawk
Tomahawk
Reply to  Tyrone
01/22/2019 12:43 am

Go Rams.

I’ll watch. No party. No cool dinner though. It’s just another game IMO.

I never, ever want a Pats victory though. They can burn in hell where they belong.

Straybrit
Straybrit
01/21/2019 11:13 pm

So I’m thinking that the over/under for the majority of discussions to revert to relatively civil as opposed to virulantly aggressive is 36 hours. So around early morning tomorrow. Any opinions?

4thQtrMagic
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/21/2019 11:44 pm

Right on!

Straybrit
Straybrit
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/21/2019 11:52 pm

As I believe I said in another thread I think the main issue is that we got outcoached. On both sides of the ball. I don’t think that the Pats players are significantly better than ours and in some cases we are definitely in front.

Now, I can take that. Hoodie is arguably the best coach in the game. McDaniels, for all I think he’s an absolute douchebag is also a top tier OC. Again, I can take that and it’s a valid reason for a game to be so close that a single mistake (looking at you Mr Ford but you certainly weren’t the only one) can have a catastrophic affect.

What I can’t put up with is the number of times the defense has been outcoached this season. A competent professional should be able to see the weaknesses and work to alleviate them. To my untrained eye this didn’t happen on the ‘D’ until week 13/14. This is magnified by the abrupt retreat from the winning formula that he finally found and the return to the ‘good old ways’ – which gave Brady ample time to pick apart the secondary.

So no, I’m not blaming a single individual for the loss, nor am I calling for heads to roll because of it. I’m calling for a replacement based on the body of work over the last 2 seasons.

Later breaking thought. I do get the argument that the FO is contributing to the problem by the player selection. However, the GM is Andy’s tame pet so he’s not going anywhere, so the DC has to either learn how to influence the GM better, learn how to create a working defense with the players he’s getting or look for another job.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 12:46 am

Dude give it a rest, why must you be right about where 51% of the blame rests? Who gives a shit

We started a new game in overtime and the offense didn’t get to see the field

Both sides sucked at times, all that matters is that we lost and while everyone is trying to pin it on the O or D mostly based on what “camp” they were from far before this game. Everyone is forgetting there’s another phase and that this is a this is a team game.

You win nothing for being right, if you could convince anyone that you were/are. Pats still in the super bowl

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 2:09 am

Of course the offense is not blameless, the o line was horrible and mahomes missed a few throws to start the game

That wasn’t directed only at you, either side that feels there’s something to gain by convincing someone that their side should harbor less blame

As far as bob sutton, his scheme isn’t getting it done. Everyone can see when it’s real easy for opposing offenses and the pats blatantly pointed that out and specifically how that took one of our biggest advantages (HFA, crowd noise) out of the game. Something I’ve never ever heard before

Macksdaddy
Macksdaddy
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 8:22 am

Dude look at the big picture not just this game the past 2 seasons this Defense has shit the bed that’s the point it’s not just this game did the offense struggle hell yeah they did. But in the 4th quarter we took the lead cause the offense got it figured out but the defense struggled to get off the field just like they have all season. It’s a team game so I’m with you on that but we need to do something different on the defensive side of the ball. Also I think BB out coached Reid & co.

TNCHIEFS
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
01/22/2019 1:17 am

I don’t think anyone would be calling for Sutton’s departure based on just this game. He’s developed a fairly consistent history that speaks for itself.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin
Reply to  TNCHIEFS
01/22/2019 2:03 am

Clearly that’s a huge part of it

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