Into the Afternight, Our 3rd Shift Open Thread

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If you’re still up and want to talk Chiefs, or just hang with fellow citizens of the Kingdom, this is the place.

Welp, with the gobble the gobbler day behind us we get Christmas carols, but as ever we of the Afternight remain unconventional.

Actually, I can think of a Carol to two that I’d like to get for Christmas, but that’s enough of that.

With that, time’s yours.

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WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
11/29/2019 11:15 pm

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Tyrone
11/29/2019 11:15 pm

Jimmies will be rustled.

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WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon
Reply to  Tyrone
11/29/2019 11:21 pm

you cant re4ally put 3 chiefs on the list and i cant take bell or lanier off to make room for thomas

hmills110
hmills110
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
11/30/2019 12:40 am

DT58 could’ve been all-everything, but Carl didn’t know how to build a championship team.

hmills110
hmills110
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
11/30/2019 3:56 pm

Gunther was the product of the great talents he was fortunate enough to coach. It inflated his stock and he rose to DC and HC on the Peter Principle, in my opinion. I think he coached like a coward, and his references to George S. Patton only added to the irony of the situation.

But Peterson didn’t exactly help matters, squandering high picks on running backs, and whiffing on Big-Ugly talent once they established themselves as an over-.500 team. Peterson did a lot of (BPA @ PON) best player available at position of need, without regard for the actual talent stratigraphy of that year’s draft. He also wasted a lot of cap on failed D-Line projects. And when he DID draft D-Line high, he whiffed.

But even allowing for that, I thought that Gun should’ve run a more blitz-heavy scheme, with coverages that reflected the expectation that the ball was coming out, quickly. Have the courage of your convictions. Don’t blitz and simultaneously keep people back. Attack the QB AND attack the throw to the hot route you’re provoking. Guess who’s known for 0-blitz this season? Belichick.

legal_kush
legal_kush
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
11/29/2019 11:14 pm

Fucketh thy Raider

hmills110
hmills110
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
11/30/2019 4:26 pm

I don’t like everything I see. But I’ve seen good play in just about every area, just not all at the same time.

I’d like to see some more prosaic pro-personnel groupings, as the base offense. I think they have the QB and perimeter talent to slice and dice and convert 3rd downs very systematically, with a pretty old-fashioned zone scheme up front. Not looking for the BIG play on the ground so much as consistent positive yards. Don’t dance around, but stick your foot in the ground and plow upfield. Our O-Line has been developing that push at the end of the play that can carry a guy like Darrel Williams (or Anthony Sherman) and extra 2 or 3 yards at the end of every play. I love that shit, and our guys want to do that.

I don’t like that kind of style with Damien Williams or Lesean McCoy, because that’s how those dudes get hurt or lose the handle.

With a guy like Darwin Thompson, I’d steal a few pages from Todd Haley’s playbook, with Thompson in that Dexter McCluster, perpetual-motion man. That’s the one case where I think having a scat back gives you more in threats than it hurts you in the blocking. Before his ankle injury(ies), McCluster was a virtually certain 4 or 5 yards. Money on 3rd and 3 or 4. Thompson could probably play that role as good or better than Dex, because he has a higher top gear than Dex.

Conventional wisdom is that Darwin isn’t good enough in pass pro, but I think he drags more defenders with him if he’s motioning at the snap than any one guy can block. I’m pretty sure Reid thinks this way, and maybe too much this way, judging by the number of times he’s left overmatched OTs on an island over the years.

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