Friday OT: Basil Gimlet

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Cocktail Friday

2 OZ Gin
Several Basil leaves
3/4 OZ Lime juice
3/4 OZ simple Syrup

Muddle basil leaves in lime juice and simple syrup
Add gin then ice and stir
Strain into glass

Tasting notes:
I originally tried this as a regular Gin Gimlet (w/o the Basil)
It was good with a lime start that quickly moves into distinct gin taste with a slight sweet finish. The problem is the gin is a bit overpowering, which is not common for most gin cocktails I’ve had. So I tried muddling in the basil and……

Much better. The drink gives off a great aroma of basil.
Its the same experience as before except with the basil persists throughout.
Adding to the lime start and the sweet finish, but also cutting the strong bite of the gin.
I bet it would par well with a hot day or an Italian themed dinner.


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BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Mitko
06/05/2020 10:37 pm

Carry-over from yesterday. More my fault than yours, but I had loose ends to deal with. Citing facts and studies, demonstrating that I was against injustices to White as much as Blacks for the exact same reasons was my Market Garden, alas.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Mitko
06/05/2020 10:44 pm

You know I don’t drink gin!

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Mitko
06/05/2020 10:46 pm

gin brings out the worst in people. Makes people violent drunks

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
06/05/2020 10:07 pm

Will someone please tell me how this Country has survived all of these years with damn liberals in government. Who in the hell came up with the idea of a government of the people, by the people and for the people? I mean geez, if Thomas Jefferson really loved this Country he would have just handed the keys to the car to John Adams. The arrogance and self-righteousness of both the extreme right and left is nauseating and will probably destroy this Country.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
06/05/2020 10:19 pm

I still think most people still live somewhere in the middle. All the medums are corporate or monotized and the $ aint in the rational voice in the center, centrists are bad right? I think
Did you hear about L (ady) G
raham
It would explain a lot.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 11:14 pm

Exactly. Lady Graham is a political whore. Come to think of it, they all are. We’re screwed. 😳

pompano
pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
06/05/2020 11:25 pm

So that’s what the “stimuls” $1200 was for?
 
 

Last edited 1 month ago by pompano
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  probablyamistake
06/05/2020 10:40 pm

Possibly, but the Constitution knows no political factions. It’s there to restrain the government from its initial design, and the Bill of Rights was added to extend those limitations to protect people from unjust actions by government officials.
 
When those statues are violated, it’s not the individual’s law that is violated, it’s the Constitution itself.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 11:11 pm

It’s really starting to concern me that I keep agreeing with you BRAG. 😁

pompano
pompano
Reply to  probablyamistake
06/05/2020 11:19 pm

 
 
it’s easier than reading it all
 
(my sarcasm font is helvetica)

pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 9:07 pm

*wants a discussion*
*leftist trash*
 
discussion over
 

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 9:46 pm

Still baffles me how some ignore my consistent track record of insisting on facts and reasoning on trivial football discussion, science, statistics, all of that.
 
And when police violence gets involved and I cite years of dedicated study…I’m a clueless Leftist liar making stuff up. Even though I keep hammering away about facts and evidence, law and reason, I’m suddenly part of a group whose other views I have absolutely nothing in common with, have never been part of, and almost entirely disagree with, because I disagree with them.
 
Let me say this loud and clear: The police in the Rodney King incident got a raw deal. The press did the same thing with that tape as that news station did with the Tyreek recording. They never should have been tried twice, never should have been tried once, and at worst should have been reprimanded. The public never got the full story in context, and it was an attempt to fix injustice elsewhere with injustice in their case.
 
Furthermore, de-escalation actually make it safer for the police, not more dangerous. The cringing, groveling portrayl of that by the police is completely untrue. De-escalation isn’t capitulating to criminals and can be done without conceding any authority.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 10:05 pm

There is nothing reasonable about condoning violence or pretending it isn’t happening in these protests

pompano
pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 10:23 pm

*no one is doing that
 

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 10:34 pm

But they have to be! Otherwise, he’s just making shit up

pompano
pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 10:48 pm

I’m sure he led the debate team.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 10:51 pm

He is ignoring the violence and says all these arrest were against peaceful people carrying signs will flowers behind their ears. That just isn’t true

pompano
pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 11:12 pm

*no one said that
 

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  pompano
06/06/2020 1:31 am

They aren’t listening. They keep saying that. I haven’t seen any of us say that. They are making shit up.

Leaf
Reply to  MasterChief
06/06/2020 8:52 am

I’ve come to realize that both sides tend to ignore the other, believing the other side is essentially brainwashed or too ignorant to see the truth.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 8:49 pm

Some comedy especially if you like old school slasher movies

Watch “SLASHSTREET BOYS – “SLASHING BODIES” (OFFICIAL BACKSTREET BOYS PARODY)” on YouTube
https://youtu.be/NKFK7fGy4u0

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 8:36 pm
Last edited 1 month ago by gonzangkc11
pompano
pompano
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 8:38 pm

He’s not wrong.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:41 pm

LOL LOL.

pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 8:22 pm

No one told me it’s opposite day, fuckers, the lot of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUYb-V4GYZc

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:46 pm

GREAT TUNE!!

Sudden
Sudden
06/05/2020 8:18 pm
pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:20 pm
MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:29 pm

I was taught how to operate in a snatch squad. I never did it for real but these guys executed it pretty damn well. Of course they didn’t have to plow through a crowd to get to an agitator, but they got their guy. Nice work.

Sudden
Sudden
06/05/2020 8:18 pm
MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:31 pm

Weird. Looks like non-peaceful people to me.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:43 pm

except for some people on here

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 8:44 pm

Don’t make me link your rant from last night where you wished a fellow AGer’s life would be ruined.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:52 pm

do it. I stand by it. Anyone who votes for the economic collapse that will follow if Biden gets elected deserves to lose everything. You get what you pay for

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 9:44 pm

There’s a greater than zero chance we see a coup within the month. I don’t think electoral politics matter much where we’re heading.

Leaf
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:43 pm

I’m all for letting it burn 😜

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:53 pm

To be fair I was kinda fucked before any of this, so it doesn’t hold much weight on my end.
But I appreciate the sentiment, cheers.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 8:53 pm

Meh, I’m done w this place. Last night’s thread got heated. Some could have let it stay there but nah so it’s time for me to bid adieu.
 
I don’t really wish any ill to the people here. I think they’re wrong, and frankly brainwashed, but I hope the implications of this aren’t as ominous as I see them. But either the disagreements are irreconcilable and on fundamental values so time for a divorce. Having trouble finding a way to delete account on here.
 
BRaG, can you point to me to cancel acct feature?

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:56 pm

For what it’s worth, I’ll hate to see you go. You and I didn’t see eye to eye, but I always felt like I learned something from you, even if I didn’t change my own view. It’s always sobering when another Chiefs fan rides off into the sunset.
 
I wish you the best, friend.
 

Last edited 1 month ago by Nasrani
Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 9:03 pm

Thanks Nas. That means a lot. I always regarded you as a stand-up and reasonable guy even when we differed. Really most people here. The current circumstances seem to be moving towards something much more antagonistic, particularly when informed by the likes of people like Robin DeAngelo.
 
I’m having to reconsider a lot of hobbies and interests with the recent troubles and that means losing some of the outlets through which I’ve met decent people along the way. It’s bittersweet but my principles and the welfare of my family demand it.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:06 pm

I understand. I had to take a month or so off as well and re-evaluate my priorities. It isn’t easy to change hobbies, but sometimes it’s for the best. Nothing worth doing comes easily after all.
 
I believe BRaG has my email address if you have his and wish to continue talking in the future. I’m not the best about checking it, but I’m working on getting better, and BRaG and I have had some good discussions.
 
In any case, I wish you the best of luck with everything. And who knows, maybe this is just a hiatus. Never know when you’ll be back, even as a lurker, for a game-day thread or three.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 9:36 pm

If Sudden wishes, I’ll pass it along privately. No side comments unless invited, just a straight exchange.
 
And what Nas said is true, we’ve had many pleasant and productive conversations about things where we view things differently but respect each other’s position.
 
I like conversations like that. I’ve stated my positions when it comes to conversations where I’m not allowed to occupy my position because the opinions of the other party on what they believe I think.
 
I’ve done my level best to remain polite and stick to the facts, and in return somebody called me a “cunt”, in spite of my publicly-known struggles with anger management and PTSD. I refuse to feel like a bad guy because the less-informed don’t like what I have to say. (Sorry for the French, Nas, but I deal in facts so I won’t censor that, it’s relevant data.)
 

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:41 pm

Yes, I called you a cunt yesterday. I apologized elsewhere in this thread. You can accept or not. It’s your prerogative. But where I see things heading on the current trajectory, you’re gonna have a lot more to worry about than mean words. That’s why I get so animated. You can choose to believe what you will, I think it’s wrong, I think it’s premised on a demonstrable unreality, but I don’t think you are a bad person for believing it. In fact, I think it is your fundamental goodness that causes you to believe it.
 
I just think that goodness is being exploited by people with sinister aims.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:06 pm

Of course it is, Sudden, and i accept your apology wholeheartedly, it’s just that I really have to pick and choose where I engage right now. Anger issues.
 
And if it was you, I apologize for calling you a cur. But I’m not following anyone but my own research and self-education, and I detest those who mislead, such as Flat-Earth whackos.
 
Now, if you’d like to have a polite discussion on what Brady V Maryland entailed and why that SCOTUS ruling matters, and how and why it’s so easily violated, I’d be delighted. It’s an important issue WRT police, prosecutors, and citizens accused of crimes, and the public should understand more about it. It’s serious stuff, so I’ve dug deep there – but it’s not a pretty picture for the police and prosecution who withhold evidence of innocence to ensure a conviction.
 
This isn’t emotional BS rhetoric, I’ve studied lawyers talking about it and read appellate decisions related to it. I’ve reviewed case after case as they came up in the news. Brushing that all off as though I’m a blind ideologue tends to piss me off.
 
I’m not anyone’s enemy, I wish ill on no one without serious justification (Gerald Goines can fuck off and die for the people he framed, got injured and killed for his own benefit – and he’s Black, BTW, but it’s his Blue armor that allowed it). These are serious matters deserving serious discussion, and there was very little of that happening last night. You are undoubtedly a proud, stubborn man and can understand that so am I. Can we have peace between us and discuss these issues with the depth they deserve?

Leaf
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 10:57 pm

Damn, last nights thread sounds like it had as much fire to it as my crouch after a visit to the Philippines.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/05/2020 11:15 pm

Do tell…

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:17 pm

I’ll miss you too. I liked hearing about your boating trips to Santa Cruz Island. I respect your Chiefs opinions a great deal as well.
 
We may not agree on certain areas of politics, but that’s not a great reason to leave. No two of us are going to be in perfect sync. It’s the way it is. However, there are things I know we share, like our love for the Chiefs. If you are leaving because of me, please don’t. I will leave you alone while debating.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:20 pm

Don’t let your politics determine your friends.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 9:21 pm

I wouldn’t have many friends if we just talked politics all the time.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:42 pm

’cause they’re assholes, like everybody’s friends.
Sienfelds last stand up was very good, has a bit about getting “new friends”

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:28 pm

Not about you guys. It’s about the NFL itself. It’s not something I care to invest any more time or money into. In fact a whole lot of companies have given me a lot of cause to save quite a bit of coin, which will be helpful in the troubles ahead.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:00 pm

don’t go man. I came over here to escape the mindless white guilt garbage on AP and it;s the same leftist trash over here. We need more people like you around

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 9:10 pm

It’s everywhere saints. And it’s endemic in the NFL at this point.
 
I got to see the chiefs win the super bowl. At least I can say that. I had wavered in interest in the league for some time before that but did finally get to be a part of that season.
 
And I still think that the majority of people here who I disagree with quite vehemently and really the majority of the people as a whole that comprise these protests/riots (the two are indistinguishable at this point) aren’t bad people. I just don’t think they’re seeing the logical extension and end-game of the puppeteers in charge here.
 
So I’ll bow out and spend my time and money supporting people who support my community.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 10:33 pm

Oddly, the conversations over here were always civil, even with polar opposite opinions. Lately, however, they get really heated really fast. Can’t say what’s changed… wait…

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 10:35 pm

Yeah, three days ago and difficult subjects could be discussed civilly. Something must have changed all that, but what?

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 10:36 pm

It’s hard to put my finger on it…something is different…almost like a disturbance in the force…

pompano
pompano
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 10:51 pm

It’s me, I know…terribly sorry

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:03 pm

*disengenuous*
 
and the password is “swordfish”.
 

Last edited 1 month ago by pompano
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:14 pm

Not my department, and while I will be sorry to see you depart, I’m still no “Leftist”. I stand firmly against gun-grabbers and delusional social engineers from the humanities department and all that good bullshit.
 
If you’re leaving because you believe I’m lying through my teeth about that, I won’t stop you. I’m a science, nuts-and-bolts guy, and I can’t deal with those who are not miscasting me as something else because my principles don’t match the prejudices of others and I refuse to accept slogans as facts.
 
If everything I say is treated as irrelevant because others determine that everything I say is a lie, there is no possibility of a real conversation. I’ve spent a decade and more studying the mechanisms the move within the system, facts, laws, details, all from serious sources and no press fluff.
 
And all that means nothing because I’m automatically labeled a “leftist” to get rid of all that study and labor, all that self-education and digging down below the slogans to get to the reality – brushed aside by labels and slogans.
 
I’ll hate to see you go for many, many other reasons, but if you insist I believe things I do not to fit your narrative, buh-bye. I can’t communicate with liars.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:25 pm

I don’t believe you’re lying. Nor do I believe you’re a “leftist”, at least not in the sense it’s viewed in modern American politics (I believe all politics in the US are fundamentally left because it is informed by the enlightenment but that’s a whole other matter). I do believe you’re wrong and misguided and fundamentally informed by a hostile press.
 
But no, it’s not anything personal with you.
 
In fact, I want to apologize to you, pompano, masterchief, gonzag, and any others whose skin I may have gotten under over the past day or so. I have been incendiary because I see in the current circumstances, particularly with regards to the concepts of white privilege, white fragility, white comfort, etc, the beginnings of something quite sinister. I think we pretty much crossed a rubicon and are careening towards something akin to the Spanish Civil War. One does not temper their language well when legitimately concerned for the fate and future of their family.
 
And the NFL, along with virtually every other institution in American and more broadly Western, life, has thrown its support behind this movement. I don’t see the current circumstances as about Trump or police brutality. I see it as something much larger.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 9:53 pm

Accepted.
I hope you understand my frustration when someone I believe to be smart uses slogans rather than arguements.
Opposing viewpoints can live in the same space.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 10:03 pm

I absolutely do and I hope you can similarly understand my frustration. It’s worth noting that my position feels like persona non grata right now. Like I said, every institution in the country, including the very President you loathe (as do I frankly but mostly because he hasn’t done any of the things you loathe him for), is outwardly parroting the same line, that George Floyd’s death was a cold-blooded murder and was symptomatic of a fundamental mistreatment of black people by the criminal justice system.
 
I think that’s hogwash and demonstrably untrue when examined alongside actual crime statistics (even when controlling for income). I think your heart is in the right place. I think you mean well. I just think that good intentions are being exploited.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:42 pm

lies, damn lies, and statistics 🙂
demonstrably?
.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:13 pm

Believe it or not, I basically stand with you against all that crap. The problem is that this is not related to all that crap, it’s enabling it. It distracts from the fundamental systemic problems with social priorities.
 
Just as police aggression ensures violence, the social engineering bullshit enables more bullshit. It has to stop and the concepts driving most of it are purely toxic – but preventing policy reform WRT the police to bring them into accountability of the law isn’t a part of that dangerous and disgusting cotton candy.
 
The trick is to tell the difference between Leftist fluff like that and concerned people out to correct policies that produce racist outcomes. I can tell the difference, but would you listen to me tell you about it? I’d like that.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:39 pm

The problem with you is that you don’t believe that there is a political party that looks at you as the enemy because of your race and gender. And you think that all this virtue signaling and white shaming yourself will make you ”down with the struggle” and deflect the ire directed towards you be these people. You are sadly mistaken

pompano
pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 10:56 pm

WTF
who you callin’ these people 🙂
Ajoke
end scene

Leaf
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:50 pm

Damn I’m late to party so you might already be gone. But if you happen to see this, good luck friend. I hope our paths cross again someday. But if they don’t, take care of yourself and your family.

Sudden
Sudden
06/05/2020 8:16 pm

Muh peaceful protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrPescatore/status/1269069404219871235

Keep bending the knee to these asshats like the fucking clowns you are

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:27 pm

Equating criminasl with peaceful protesters kinda underscores the point of the protests, just sayin’

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:29 pm

Aiding and abetting.

Keep licking their boots tho. Won’t spare you their wrath

Last edited 1 month ago by Sudden
MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:37 pm

It’s strange you think anyone is licking the boots of these criminals and thugs. They deserve jail.
 
There are thousands of times more peaceful protesters than violent ones. You are acting like our town is burning right now. Give me a break man. It’s so peaceful and nice in Ventura County right now.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:40 pm

I wonder why that is…

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:43 pm

What are you getting at? That it’s because there aren’t many black people here? 🤔

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:09 pm

duh

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 8:43 pm

I could post waaayyy too many vids of police attacking people on thier knees w/hands in the air, but you’ve seen them already.
As I have seen yours.

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 9:52 pm

Police have a duty to uphold order and the state itself has a monopoly on violence.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:10 pm

Excessive force against NON RIOTERS OR LOOTERS does not uphold order, it violates thier rights.

 
 

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Sudden
06/05/2020 10:19 pm

True, and that duty includes preventing other police from committing a crime. Three police officers were derelict in that duty and a restrained man died because they cooperatively crushed his neck and compressed his back for almost nine minutes. While helpless and in custody, an American died at the hands of police who refused to listen to the pleas for mercy on him from bystanders. Even after he became unresponsive.
 
That’s a violent criminal act, blatantly violated police procedures in place, and generally demonstrated that to them, Floyd’s Black life literally didn’t matter. Restraint wasn’t enough, punishment and domination had to be satisfied. Fentanyl didn’t kill Mr. Floyd, those officers did. If anything the fentanyl made it easier, but nine minutes without oxygen is lethal. Medical fact and the cops didn’t care.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:32 pm

Yeah he’s not making much sense. He keeps saying they are peaceful protesters and yet these videos are of assholes.

pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 8:03 pm
pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 7:57 pm

 
4:58 / 13:13
 
Duane Allman & Boz Scaggs at Muscle Shoals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv60Dz9hUPo
 
 

Last edited 1 month ago by pompano
Tony Sommer
06/05/2020 7:47 pm

I brought this up a long time ago (I think even back on AP), but it’s being proven true recently. Other than the Supreme Court, movements like feminism and BLM will benefit in the long run from Trump being president, since he makes their arguments so much stronger and harder to deny.
 
And sure enough, we’ve gone to Kaepernick being controversial for taking a knee during the national anthem when Obama was president, to Brees being controversial for saying you shouldn’t take a knee after Trump has been president.
 
Feminism hasn’t really taken advantage of the situation, but BLM is more popular than ever. If Clinton was president she would have given the normal typical speeches, and these protests wouldn’t be nearly as big as they are now.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Tony Sommer
06/05/2020 7:53 pm

Agreed. The more the prez steers far right, the further the left increases their efforts.
 
I always use a metaphor for our 2 party system, where each party is a bumper on a bowling alley. The ball is the country. The harder it bounces off the left bumper, the harder it’s going to bounce off the right. We’ve been bouncing off the right bumper for over 3 years. After 8 years of a black prez, the rebound is severe. If the country decides to go back left in November, it will bounce hard left again. We’ll see what happens.
 
I’d personally just rather bowl a strike right down the middle.
 

Last edited 1 month ago by MasterChief
pompano
pompano
Reply to  Tony Sommer
06/05/2020 7:59 pm

Quite possible. As long as it’s not another term, then the risk/reward gets skewed I fear.

Tony Sommer
06/05/2020 7:33 pm

I downloaded the 51 games game on Switch and played it for 3 hours without even realizing. It’s just as fun as I thought it’d be.

pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 7:32 pm

Hear my train a’comin’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYLVQfjCts

pompano
pompano
06/05/2020 7:29 pm
BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 6:42 pm

I have some comments involving the trends underlying current events and some of my personal views that may prove somewhat unpopular, but I’m deliberately trying to not be inflammatory here. So to demonstrate that, I’m going to lead off with some good news, comments to follow: https://reason.com/2020/06/03/here-are-4-policing-reforms-cities-and-states-are-considering-right-now/

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 6:46 pm

In Colorado, three law enforcement groups—the County Sheriffs of Colorado, the Colorado Fraternal Order of Police, and the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Policeput out a joint statement Tuesday calling for state lawmakers to require that other officers intervene when they see something like what happened to Floyd.

The groups note that it’s already a duty for officers to intervene when he or she witnesses a fellow officer engaged in unreasonable force. They’re asking for state lawmakers to make it a statutory requirement, leaving officers who don’t intervene (like the three cops who stood by while Chauvin slowly suffocated Floyd) possibly facing criminal charges.

 
Can’t say that these cops hate cops, can you. These measures are small, but it’s a start and sometimes small things can be significant. I’d still like to get a penny from everyone in America, after all.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 7:02 pm

This one I am whole heartedly behind. I understand them wanting to eliminate the chokehold as a police maneuver, but I think the people making the rules aren’t the ones putting their lives on the line. Better training and more frequent refreshing of when to use the chokehold would be welcome.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Severely Concussed
06/05/2020 7:45 pm

I think it might help for cops to:
 
 
 

  1. be paid more, leading to greater competition. Good cops deserve it.
  2. get more vacation. They could probably use more time off.
  3. have counselors/psychologists that will evaluate their mental health and allow the cop to blow off some steam. Sometimes talking and expressing things will lighten their loads.
  4. be recognized for how dangerous and difficult the job we ask them to do is.
  5. go through revamped training programs.
  6. be required to wear and use body cams.
  7. have to give their oath to protect and serve annually.

 
I don’t want to not have cops, they save our lives daily, I’m sure, whether directly or indirectly.
 
 
 

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pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 7:49 pm

fk me

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 7:52 pm

In the past available counselors/psychologists were not used unless ordered, considered weak.
Hopefully that stigma is gone but I doubt it is in many areas.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:07 pm

Very true. That’s why it needs to be forced. We should be as sure as possible that we aren’t putting unfit officers out there.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:11 pm

Tough sell to the unions, especially where it’s most needed.
And how effective would forced counselling be w/o a real long term comittment to require it?

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:36 pm

If forced counseling only helps 25% of the cops that uses it, that is still a massive improvement from today.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Severely Concussed
06/05/2020 8:38 pm

Yeah agreed. It should be about constant improvement. Mahomes isn’t resting on his laurels right now, he’s still training and trying to get better.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Severely Concussed
06/05/2020 8:54 pm

Hence long term, so it sticks.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Severely Concussed
06/05/2020 10:30 pm

I strongly favor this, actually. There are a lot of psych issues also embedded in police culture that the public doesn’t know about, alcoholism and domestic violence first and foremost.
 
That’s not a slur, the two go together and it’s well-documented. The culture does its best to keep those hushed up, but it’s not just damaging to society, it’s damaging to police and their families, and not just the ones where it happens.
 
Of course, some psych screening to weed out the power junkies and sociopaths also wouldn’t hurt, but that’s a different angle.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 6:48 pm

Next is in reply to being angrily told that Blacks are advantaged and not disadvantaged. Here’s six serious studies that demonstrate otherwise: https://reason.com/2020/06/03/george-floyds-horrifying-death-highlights-stark-racial-disparities-in-the-use-of-police-force/

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 6:55 pm

And finally, while I could talk about the 75yo man that was knocked to the concrete and that the initial statement falsely said he “tripped”, but that’s too current.
 
I’d like to discuss Walter Ogros, instead, for the same reason. Ogrod was wrongfully convicted because police forced a false confession and he was held on Death Row for 24 years for a crime he didn’t commit. Among those advocating for his release because he’s innocent is the mother of the victim, to the point of filing an amicus brief in support of him. Both cases spark the same outrage in me as the brutal and unnecessary death of George Floyd and I protest those violations just as strongly, but the story before the twist: https://reason.com/2020/06/05/after-nearly-30-years-pennsylvanias-walter-ogrod-is-released-from-death-row/
 

Last edited 1 month ago by BleedingRedAndGold
BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 7:00 pm

I object to these injustices because they stem from the same broken system that got Floyd even hard because he was Black. The twist is that both of these men are White, and that does not matter to me. What matters is that the police violated the Constitution in all three cases.
 
Do not tell me I’m being foolish and wishy-washy on matters of principle. One law to rule us all, one rule to bring us all together, and in the crises bind us – especially the police. The rest of us can band together to keep them bound by legal restraints, for a change.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 8:24 pm

so are we gearing up for round 2? I can go all night again

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 8:40 pm

As long as you don’t wish anyone’s life be ruined. If you’re going to do that again, you can just fuck right the fuck off. Otherwise, healthy debate is healthy.
 

Last edited 1 month ago by MasterChief
saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:46 pm

you reap what you sew is all I gotta say. And I stand by everything I said, slept on it, and now I am more resolute in my stance as ever

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 8:46 pm

Well then you can fuck right the fuck off.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 8:53 pm

that stings

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 9:19 pm

It’s not cool to do that. Saying you stand by that is lame as hell and I won’t engage in that. Debating politics and football is one thing, but wishing ill on other AG people is lame.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:27 pm

Wishing ill on anyone (well most anyone) is uncharitable at best, but lame works.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 9:52 pm

when you use your vote on someone who will ruin the US economically, you deserve every ill to befall your way that you can imagine.You stand culpable for your actions

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:50 pm

when you use your vote to elect people who want the destruction of the United States and economy in a constant state of recession, then you are blood libel as far as I am concerned and deserve every bit of what I said last night

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/06/2020 1:26 am

We’ll see if you’re doomsaying comes true. I don’t think it will be total doom and destruction if Trump isn’t elected.
 
By the way, if Trump weren’t running, I’d consider voting Republican based on the character and wisdom of the person running. Trump has neither. He only has ambition and only for a select group of Americans. So yeah, I vote how I want and you vote how you want and we’ll see how it shakes out.
 
 

pompano
pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 8:58 pm

*sow
And you lied about me/us.
Please stop that, that is all.
Gonna find more music, have a nice nite

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 9:24 pm

I read a quote from a cop who was part of a team who ransacked a vet with PTSD’s home. When the cop demanded the key he told the innocent man ‘I don’t have time for constitutional bullshit, if you don’t give me the key, I’ll wreck your door and search anyway”.
 
You stand with the cop, I stand with that vet and the Constitution. You cannot be more resolved than I am, because I pledged my very life to defend the Constitution from domestic enemies of it such as that cop. He’s a disgrace.
 
I’m proud to defend our Constitution, and will continue to defend it. Pisses you the hell off, doesn’t it?

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:47 pm

there is nothing constitutional about destroying property that doesn’t belong to you despite your cries to the contrary

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 10:33 pm

Such destruction is illegal under lesser laws and doesn’t involve any Constitutional violations. Thanks for demonstrating you are too ignorant of the laws involved to have a valid opinion. Good night, and I’ll spend the rest of my time talking to non-ignorant people about the stuff that matters – including at least one whom I recently clashed hard with.
 
You prefer ignorance as the basis of your bleating, so I’m done.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 10:40 pm

People are allowed to protest. When said protests turn violent, protesters are now looters and vandals and are now subject to criminal proceedings. For someone who fancies himself as intelligent, this simple concepts flies over your head
 
Easy translation; You have a constitutional right to gather and protest. You don’t , however, have right to steal others belongs and set fire to their property. Got it?

pompano
pompano
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 11:00 pm

*no one has said that, like ever

Sudden
Sudden
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:50 pm

Will you say that when the coup occurs?
 
I used to be very vehement about the constitution. But in my life I’ve seen it routinely abused, and generally in a single direction.
 
It is ultimately just a piece of paper. Power is what matters. My particular view of the world is fundamentally disempowered at this moment in time and I certainly don’t anticipate that any protections laid out in some document will shield me from those who wield that power.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/06/2020 1:48 am

Here’s where I point out that you never addressed a single factual study performed by credentialed experts or simply compiled from gov’t statistics.
 
You’re an intellectual coward.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 5:52 pm

On a Serious Note:
Last time USA was “Truly” united was on 9/11/2001, the minutes, hours, days, weeks & months after.
.
Should it really take negative event(s) to unite?
.
All Stay positive, healthy, safe, tell peeps that you love, you love them
.

Btw: If you are married that doesn’t mean- drunk dial – your high school EX. Lol

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 6:36 pm

That’s not difficult, I never had a HS GF. Pass the Bert’s, please.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 7:37 pm

That’s why I’m praying for an alien invasion.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 7:40 pm

There is an incoming asteroid, maybe tell the aliens where you would like it to hit 🙂

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:25 pm

Divide it up, and may the pieces hit every Broncos/Raiders and Colts/Patriots game from here until the end of eternity.

Leaf
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 10:32 pm

If you look to our past, you’ll discover the aliens have been here all along

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Leaf
06/05/2020 11:04 pm

You said that was a colonoscopy, Bastrd

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 8:23 pm

I echo your sentiment about negative events. I also realized a very, very long time ago that no one cares what I think, which is why I try to refrain from interjecting on here. It only leads to trouble and playing with fire.
 
But this is something I have been thinking about for a long time. We as humans need to realize that, regardless of our political/religious/socio-economic beliefs, regardless of our background and ethnicity, we are all one in this great human tapestry. No one buys a tapestry that’s a single color and hangs it proudly on their wall. Each tapestry is made of many different threads of many different colors, and in some places certain colors will stand out and in other places those same colors will take on more of a background role. But that does not make them any less important.
 
This kind of stuff transcends political boundaries, economic class, etc. Unfortunately the media (and yes, it is the media) likes to label people a certain way so they can keep us divided.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:24 pm
pompano
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:33 pm

The movie about them is worth a watch, if you haven’t seen.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:34 pm

I haven’t. I’m not a big Kristen Stewart fan, and since I kinda have a thing for 70s/early-80s-era Joan Jett, I don’t want to equate her with some actress who appears to have lockjaw.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:47 pm

Joan was on set a bunch, Stewart did a good job.
Me and Joan had a thing well, well I had a thing 🙂

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:49 pm

I hadn’t heard Joan was on set; I may have to watch it, even though I’m still not a Kristen Stewart fan… glad to see I’m not the only one who had a thing for Joan. Chicks with guitars, what can I say?

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 9:12 pm

Nancy Wilson

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:44 pm

Agree
I always state @ end of day
We are all energy cover in a layer of skin

pompano
pompano
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 9:00 pm

We are million year old carbon,
caught up in the devil’s bargin.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 5:48 pm

I submit for inclusion in this weeks “Hot Taeks”
From the other place:
 
Prediction…Mahomes -will not get paid
Posted by Gary123chiefs on Jun 4, 2020 | 8:29 PM reply  rec  flag
 
You will find no taek hotter.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 5:53 pm

That same fool said he was done watching NFL- after nfl players posted the black lives matter video. I posted to him….bye

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 6:04 pm

And not fast enough out the door, either

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 8:26 pm

Yeah, I had to come back here to reinforce my faith in Chiefs fans. In fact, every time I go on that fucking site, I just miss this place all the more.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Chickennpickles
06/05/2020 8:27 pm

It’s still there? I left and haven’t looked back.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:35 pm

Barely, I used to go to 3rd shift to see steve and rip, but that ended many weeks ago.

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:44 pm

I’m honestly surprised Pol Pete and John Stalin still allow commenting – much less open threads.

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  Nasrani
06/05/2020 8:55 pm

i was warned by the head of Sbnation for saying Hydroxychloriquine could be a therapy for Covid. The alt left PC police has infiltrated AP

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 9:25 pm

The alt-right police gave you that information in the first place. Multiple people have died from taking that drug.

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:26 pm

Reason’s saying exactly that, the damned whacko Liberals keep spreading lies, right? *Eyeroll*

saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
Reply to  MasterChief
06/05/2020 9:55 pm

not true. the leading Lupus and Arthritis physician in the country has stated that it is a safe drug and he has never had anyone die from it n his 30 plus year career. Now is it an effective treatment? Mixed results. But this idea it is a deadly drug is fake news that was debunked months ago

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles
Reply to  pompano
06/05/2020 8:52 pm

Yeah, I stopped going for all of last season. I went on a couple times recently. I’m all set for another year now. It sucks cause I can remember how much fun that place used to be, back in the early Todd Haley days…

Nasrani
Nasrani
Reply to  Chickennpickles
06/05/2020 9:00 pm

I think I still have an SBNation account floating around somewhere because of their US soccer page, and I may or may not have a thing for a certain couple of strikers on the women’s team…
 
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BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 6:38 pm

First pass I didn’t recognize the handle, second I realized I’d missed the location data.
 
Holy crap, I’m glad they kicked us out now, all over again.

slackator
slackator
Reply to  NovaChiefs
06/05/2020 7:51 pm

I propose Abandonded Place be banned from Hot Taeks as it requires site visitation and will draw them more clicks but to each their own, I personally have never went back to that site and don’t miss it for a second

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles
Reply to  slackator
06/05/2020 8:30 pm

That place is foul. I’m so glad I decided to come over here when this site started up. Much better class of folks!

BleedingRedAndGold
Reply to  Chickennpickles
06/05/2020 9:28 pm

I agree, we’re better than that. Too bad some think we’re so scummy they can’t stay. Sad, really.

pompano
pompano
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:45 pm

My teeth are furry right now, I’ll try better.

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles
Reply to  BleedingRedAndGold
06/05/2020 9:46 pm

I agree. At the same time I’m thankful there’s a site they can go to so they aren’t here. I’d rather not mix my Chiefs news with a lack
of faith in humanity. It just becomes too depressing after awhile. One of the things I’ve long had to square with being a Chiefs fan is dealing with football fans.
AG makes me feel better about that.
AP can make me question if being a fan is even worth it sometimes.

MasterChief
MasterChief
Reply to  Chickennpickles
06/06/2020 1:51 am

Reading this comment really makes me want to chill out on the politics for the night. comment image

Leaf
Reply to  slackator
06/05/2020 10:36 pm

Is it sad that I turn off or fast-forward all interviews when a certain someone is asking the question?

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 5:38 pm

Top top shelf tequila
The $100 a shot shznit

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 5:40 pm

“Pee-wee’s Big Adventure – Tequila”
https://youtu.be/BodXwAYeTfM

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed
Reply to  gonzangkc11
06/05/2020 5:54 pm

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saints_chiefsfan1979
saints_chiefsfan1979
06/05/2020 5:34 pm

this probably is what I will have to drink now that I have out 🙁

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