Early Games Open Thread
319 repliesYour early games open thread.
Here are your early games while we wait for Chiefs football.
- TITANS AT COLTS
- JETS AT BENGALS
- REDSKINS AT PANTHERS
- 49ERS AT RAVENS
- BUCCANEERS AT JAGUARS
- BROWNS AT STEELERS
- PACKERS AT GIANTS
- EAGLES AT DOLPHINS
Who are you watching today?
Bengals get 1st win
must suck to watch your team finally be ready after the preseason…on week 13.
Only saw a breakaway clip to the play, but TN was just ruled (a couple minutes ago now) to have recovered a fumbled catch by IND. In the replay, the ball was rolling free down the field and a referee came running through the frame obviously blowing the whistle and pointing to the ground declaring the receiver was down (and thus he wasn’t ruling it a fumble, obviously), and the ball was still unrecovered at that point.
I admit I can’t seem to keep up with the weekly on-the-spot NFL rules changes, adaptions, and just plain making up the rules, but could someone clarify whether a fumble that is blown dead by a whistle is still a fumble or not? I thought that once the play was blown dead by a whistle, the play was over and dead regardless of the fact that a loose ball was still on the ground. They used to say that as far as I recall. Has that changed? I thought they were supposedly trying to keep players from getting injured by making sure that when a whistle is blown, the play is over, dead, done, not to be continued so that no one gets a cheap shot by another player claiming that they were just making sure. I don’t get it.
If the ruling is down prior to the fumble and there was a clear recovery by the opposing team, it can still be reviewed. The ball just cant be advanced from the recovery spot. If the ruling is that forward progress was stopped prior to the fumble that is a judgment call and cant be reviewed
that’s what I was saying. the ball wasn’t yet recovered. the ref was running toward the point of the play with his whistle blowing and adamantly pointing to the ground and in the same frame, the ball is still rolling free. there wasn’t a recovery at that point when he was blowing his whistle. a couple seconds afterward a TN player jumps on the ball, but the whistle had been obviously blown for some time before that.
the recovery can be after the whistle
ah I didn’t know that. I thought they didn’t want players hitting each other after the whistle is blown…which would be thus allowed in the case of a fumble. seems unfair to players who are told to stop playing when the whistle blows, and then to allow more football to be played after a whistle is blown. how would players know when to keep playing after the whistle and when to stop playing at the whistle? I don’t get the point of the whistle if it doesn’t mean to stop playing.
OK…I looked it up under the NFL Rules online from the NFL website:
This is from “RULE 7, Ball in Play, Dead Ball, Scrimmage”…”SECTION 2, Dead Ball”…”Article 1, Dead Ball Declared”…
(o) when an official sounds the whistle erroneously while the ball is still in play, the ball becomes dead immediately.
If the ball is in player possession, the team in possession may elect to put the ball in play where it has been declared dead or to replay the down.
If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a fumble, backward pass, or illegal forward pass, the team last in possession may elect to put the ball in play at the spot where possession was lost or to replay the down.
If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a legal forward pass, a free kick, a fair-catch kick, or a scrimmage kick, the ball is returned to the previous spot, and the down is replayed.
I believe the fumble should have been awarded back to Indianapolis at either the point of the fumble (which was a first down, I think) or the previous spot with the down replayed.”
All this is predicated on the visual of the ref blowing his whistle and pointing to the ground in the replay. There was no sound played in the replay I saw, so I have to assume that his action was accompanied by him actually blowing the whistle which seems obvious that he was. But…a replay with sound would be necessary. I’ve never seen an official ever not blow the whistle with it in his mouth, being held by one hand, running toward the spot of the supposed fumble, and adamantly pointing to the ground. BUT…I think the rule is clear. If he was blowing his whistle during a loose ball, the play is dead and no fumble is to have occurred.
Steelers are quietly 7-5.
probably will be a WC team. One I don’t particularly want to play in the WC round
They’ll play at Houston.
that’s presuming we are the 4 seed, which is hardly a foregone conclusion
If they make it. They still have to play the Bills and the Ravens. Indianapolis and Tennessee are still in the hunt
Im starting to think this Baker Mayfield guy may not be very good…
Miami beat Eagles
Cowboys fans rejoice lol
Brian Flores for Coach of the Year.
parity means bad teams can beat mediocre teams
If you didn’t think the Ravens were the real deal last week, you won’t think they’re the real deal this week. 6 victories over teams with winning records, including 3 current division leaders.
Just need some college DC’s to coach up some NFL edge players!
Didn’t they beat the pats? Anyone thinking they aren’t legit at this point is silly. They need to take advantage of Lamar this year though, DC’s will figure out the ravens sooner or later. They kind of remind me of us last year. Nobody was ready for Patrick last year, just like nobody was ready for Lamar this year. The difference is Patrick is a great passer (the QB’s primary job), Lamar not so much.
They did beat the Pats, but people questioned the Pats legitimacy more than the Ravens. With good reason of course. But now the Ravens have beaten just about every hot team in the NFL.
Browns gonna lose.
I really hoped Baker would gave to trot his smack-talking ass in Arrowhead for a wild-card game.
Now we likely get a white LJ that everyone will praise for his grit and moxie as the Bills’ savior.
Seriously with the race shit again? You might be trying to insert it in jest, but I keep seeing it over and over. No one on this website has said they do not like LJ because he is black.
It’s called trolling the haters.
You know, Baker Mayfield is great…
LJ won’t last. Harbaugh will lose his job.
NFL DC’s are clearly stupid because this guy is a wildcat RB.
None of his TD passes should count.
Yes, I bring it up because nobody else can explain their hatred with facts.
I guess if that is your style then so be it.
I also don’t think I have seen anyone on this site say Baker Mayfield is great. I’ve thrown my fair amount of shade at LJ, but 100% of it had nothing to do about race. Guess I’m a fan of the Chiefs so when I see another QB succeed I wanna pick them apart, but it has nothing to do with him being black, everything with him not being a member of the Chiefs.
Have we ever?
You do know the Ravens have their own dedicated fan site? It’s a regular Lamar lovefest, you’d fit right in.
Rams vs Cardinals
I saw Hunt caught a TD pass today. It’d be nice to have a RB with that kind of talent.
Dont really want to use a high draft pick on a RB but Chuba Hubbard is similar. Dont get taken down easy, dont fumble, good recieving back. And he is faster.
I might have to go look at some clips.
CHIEFS TIME!!
really dumb play calls by the 49ers on their last two offensive plays
Well, the argument that Baltimore only beats bad teams is taking a beating.
Not if you believe that everyone but us sucks.
lol. I like it. Pure homerism, but I like it
Ravens win it
Still a long kick for Ravens
Jackson wont last long with his head on running play. He will take some shots he wont get up from
This shit over Justin Tucker don’t miss.
I’ve seen worse kickers.
well, unless there is a missed kick by tucker (a rarity), a bye will be unobtainable by the Chiefs
Big boy run by Guice.