Saturday O/T: Chiefs Prepare for Another Game Without Mahomes

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The Chiefs activated Chad Henne today in preparation for the possible need of a backup on Sunday in the case that Patrick Mahomes sits one Moore week. Yes, whenever possible the “Moore” puns the better. I believe Matt Moore should be the backup going forward when Mahomes returns as the starter, but this move means to me that the Chiefs will likely carry three quarterbacks the rest of the season as a precaution. Mahomes will go through a warm-up Sunday morning before the game to see if he can go in this game, we all know he will want to play but the Chiefs are prepared if he can’t.

The Chiefs also brought Joey Ivie back to the 53-man roster to provide depth to a beaten-up defensive line rotation. Ivie had some good moments in the preseason and flashed some power and burst that could help him make an impact on the field if he sees it. Injuries have been the narrative of this season so far, but they are looking to get healthy over the next few weeks and into the bye week. Here’s a little reminder of Ivie, and yes I know I messed the first clip up, it’s not a swim move but a rip underneath.

Interesting stat I found when researching the Vikings: They total 61 penalties on the season which is only four more than the Chiefs but 12 less than the Cardinals, who have the most. What is the most common penalty the Vikings have called on them? Offensive holding with 15 on the season. This could play a factor in this game, especially if either or both of Jones and Clark are able to go this week.

I think the Chiefs are going to pile up yards through the air, no matter who is under center but this feels like a week that Sammy Watkins has a chance to break out with all of the Chiefs receivers healthy. I predict he goes over 100 receiving yards on the day and has a touchdown or two. What are your individual predictions for the game?

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sydenham

Just checked the forecast for KC, looks like good weather, not sure whether that gives anyone an edge (maybe the fans in the seats), just saying.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11

UFC PPV. DIAZ!
&
BOXING PPV. CANELO!

Great night of
1 on 1 fighting

wvchiefsfan
wvchiefsfan

Yes it is. Too bad these are so expensive to get in legit form. Hope my usual methods work, sometimes it’s a crap shoot.

Sudden
Sudden

The stoppage in the Holyfield/Winstead fight was atrocious.

Sure, Winstead was clearly out of his element (seriously MMA guys need to not try boxing and vice versa) but he should have been given more than 16 seconds to try and muster a defense,

Tony Sommer

I love when the clocks get turned back an hour, but daylight savings time should be abolished. It’s a ridiculous waste of money and effort.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Agree. It needs to go away

workingmansdead

I agree, it’s pretty pointless in this day and age, but how is it a waste of money? I’ve never heard that before. Energy use?

Tony Sommer

It’s lots of little small inefficiencies that go along with anything like that.

For example, every computer clock has to adjust. So Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. all have to have some guy/girl go in and specifically write the code to change the time depending on your location and the date.

Any organization that works internationally has to account for the time change, which again is something some employee there has to spend their time on. For example the airlines have to account for that when making their schedules.

Also miscommunications that occur. You forget to change your clock and miss an important meeting, for example.

legal_kush
legal_kush

So weird. I’m old enough to remember the Y2K “bug.”

Tony Sommer

It was a very real bug, but because many engineers worked hard to correct it most applications didn’t have a problem.

BleedingRedAndGold

And there you have it, because I didn’t read this while typing my own comment.

Tony Sommer

I happened to do a bit of COBOL programming at my old job, so I’m familiar with how it could happen. COBOL sucks by today’s standards.

BleedingRedAndGold

Oh, the Y2K bug was real enough, and pretty pervasive, too, but due to a lot of hard-working programmers, software engineers and such, all but a few isolated glitches were headed off. The press, of course, hyped the story to hell and gone, then shrugged as if it were a false alarm after the fact.

sydenham

Uh, that makes you old? If we’re talking the turn of the millennium then I must be ancient.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

Some friends of mine pulled the greatest only time it can happen prank for Y2K:

We were at a New Year’s eve party at a house in the boonies with about 40 friends. We lit candles just in case. We start doing the countdown and right when we get to one, all the power in the house disappears. We all start looking around at each other like “Oh shit.” One of my friends, that probably smoked a little too much that night, started crying, asking us to take him home to his mom.

Then we start hearing cackling in the hallway. My two friends snuck out to the garage and threw the breaker to the entire house.

There are very few instances in life where you can say, this is the only chance for this prank, and they hit a grand slam.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

Perfection

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)

Don’t forget the increase in automobile accidents. In the spring it’s a huge spike in the week following the time change. In the fall it’s a drop in the week following followed by a drastic spike in the months following the time shift.
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sydenham

Agreed.

HBKChiefs
HBKChiefs

Played the last minute ticket game and just secured my tickets for tomorrow. Sec 114 end seats on the side closer to midfield Row 2 for $360+fees. How’d I do?

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11

Sounds about right

Face value on my browns @ Broncos tix are
$195 ea
Row 21 rows/ 50 yard line

Sudden
Sudden

As interesting as our game will be, I’m most interested to see what happens in Seattle tomorrow

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

What’s happening in Seattle tomorrow?

Sudden
Sudden

Probably nothing… But possibly everything

And in all seriousness, iirc you live in Seattle so stay safe bruddah and avoid large crowds.

Tony Sommer

That guy’s going to need one of these.

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HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

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Sudden
Sudden

I’m not really one for the predictive programming meme myself. I think much of the alleged predictive programming of 9/11 is the result of the world trade towers being iconic and recognizable and much of the post 1993 alleged predictive programming was a recognition of the fact that they were previously attacked.

But I do not buy the official narrative on 9/11 and rather think that event was engineered by a foreign power to coerce the United States to doing its bidding on a series of wars to destabilize the middle East. I also know there’s much we’re not being told about the Mandalay Bay attack in Las Vegas.

Tony Sommer

For the video itself, even if all the conspiracy stuff was plausible, it doesn’t make any sense for these conspirators to drop little hints in pop culture. If these are supposed to be secret, why are they telling people about it?

As for 9/11, I’ve never heard a theory that it was engineered by a foreign power, but if it was it seems bizzare that the US would cover it up since Bush used 9/11 as justification to start the Iraq and Afghanistan wars despite 9/11 being orchestrated by a private terrorist group.

Sudden
Sudden

Is there a foreign power, particularly one with significant lobbying efforts in the US and significant representation in the fedgov, that would stand to benefit from two decades now of war in the middle east, particularly targeting baathist regimes in iraq and later syria and now setting its sights on Iran? And was the GWB admin and PNAC neocons largely constituted of people who may have certain sympathies with that particular foreign power?

I’d start w a search about urban moving systems and go from there.

Tony Sommer

So Russia?

Off the top of my head the big problem for them would be finding the dozens of guys willing to sacrifice their lives to do this, particularly of Middle Eastern descent (there aren’t a ton of Middle Eastern guys who are willing to die for the Russian cause). They would also have to be people with connections to Al Queda.

Another problem with that idea is that the Democrats, and president Obama specifically, would have no reason to keep this under wraps. This would have been extremely damaging to the Republican party.

Also other countries would have had to keep it under wraps as well. For example, Germany investigated Atta since he lived there, so they would have surely discovered any Russian connection they had.

But maybe most important;y is that there’s no real reason to believe it was anybody except Al Queda. This was very much in line with the kind of attacks they did, they had a history of attacking Americans, and they admitted it. It all lines up.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

Saudi Arabia is more likely than Russia, but I think Sudden is hinting at Israel for some reason.

Sudden
Sudden

Tony Sommer

Israel would certainly love the US to invade as many Muslim countries as possible, but I have a hard time imagining Al Queda would want to take credit for something that Israel actually did.

Sudden
Sudden

It is interesting to note that, in spite of controlling vast swaths of territory immediately bordering Israel, ISIS never once staged an attack on Israel. Israel and the U.S. have been supporting so-called moderate rebels (including al-Nusra Front and ISIS/ISIL) in Syria, with the U.S. support primarily being provided through USAID (the same organization that was attempting to interfere in Russian elections in 2010, ayy lmao gotta love how everything the rulers of the US claim is a projection).

And the fact is that Israel and the Saudis have become fairly tight allies these days. Israel sees radical Islamism as a weapon it can use to destabilize secular regimes and facilitate their Yinon plan acquisitions (see: Golan Heights).

Nasrani
Nasrani

Also, there was a book printed called 1000 Years of Revenge written by a guy who investigated FDNY and had learned that there was an al-Qa’ida operative in FDNY in a moderately high-up role.

Add in that Ramzi Yousef was an all-around bad dude, and al-Qa’ida’s fingerprints are all over this.

http://peterlance.com/wordpress/?p=1182

http://peterlance.com/1000_Years_Timeline.pdf

Al-Qa’ida wanted to cause as much destruction and mayhem as possible, and Ayman az-Zawahri’s gone on record saying that one of al-Qa’ida’s aims is to “bleed America dry” by involving us in ceaseless wars on multiple fronts – like a Vietnam on steroids.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Counterpoint: The US was arguably justified going into Afghanistan, since that’s where many al-Qa’ida terrorist training camps were and since they had a government sympathetic to al-Qa’ida at large and Osama bin Laden. The US was not at all justified in going into Iraq, at least not for the reasons that were mentioned, and in setting up the Iraqi Constitution the way that it was done they doomed Iraq to be like a much larger and more sectarian Iran until a different and better political system can be put into play there. (This coming from an Iraq War vet.)

Hole in my theory: Saudi Arabia and Qatar also both espouse Wahhabi ideals (the same sort of ideals that Salafi groups like al-Qa’ida, the Taliban, and ISIS/ISIL have, although Salafis are a bit more militant about it), and the US props both regimes up – particularly that of Saudi Arabia. Also, one could argue that the US was instrumental in engineering al-Qa’ida – see 1979’s Operation Cyclone.

Solution: A better foreign policy. And significantly reducing the military-industrial complex’s lobbying power.

Tony Sommer

Agreed on both wars. Afghanistan was fine (at least at the beginning), but Iraq was terrible and Bush should be put in prison for it.

Nasrani
Nasrani

If you put Bush in prison for starting it, you should put Obama in prison for continuing it. And for starting this stuff with Syria. And for escalating Afghanistan.

Hate one party all you want, but that doesn’t make the other party perfect.

That being said, the blood of our ambassador to Libya is all over Hillary Clinton’s hands, and she should be barred from ever dreaming about running for any sort of public office again, much less POTUS.

Tony Sommer

I sort of agree, but not for those reasons. Obama was justified (even if I disagree) in staying in Iraq and fighting ISIS in Syria to try and hang onto what little stability there was.

My big problem with Obama was his targeting of civilians in his air strikes. I think you could make a very strong argument that those would justify impeachment and even prison, just like Bush.

I admit to not investigating the embassy attack deeply, but I never saw anything that would indicate either Clinton or Obama were criminally liable there.

BleedingRedAndGold

Nor is anyone going to be able to find anything to uphold a ruling finding either liable, but as someone who served in a different time and place, I agree with Nas; Clinton should not be allowed into the Oval Office.

He probably sees it much the same way, while she dithered in committees and meetings, trying to find the “right” answer, good men died. By the time she had anything close to one, it was too late. Besides, she wants it far, far too badly, having been angling to get access to the reins of power for decades.

Sudden
Sudden

I don’t much care for Obama, but keep in mind that it was Paul Bremer who really gave ISIS the seed money it would need to become what it came. The Coalition Provisional Authority, in a purported effort to pacify the Sunni insurgency in the mid aughts, essentially offered bribe money to multiple Sunni warlords in Iraq.

That money essentially became the ISIS seed money, later to be used to finance their offensive against the next US/Israeli target: Assad.

Chiefs1967
Chiefs1967

Bush was a puppet but he does deserve hard time for going into Iraq and bringing about all that carnage. They are still looking for the WMD’s. What a liars club pos war that was.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

The US was also justified in invading Iraq, but not for the reasons listed. The GWB administration mentioned WMDs and the media picked up on it. The real, honest selling point was the failure of the Oil for Food program and the vested interest that France, Germany, and Russia had in keeping the program going. Because the 3 largest banks funding the Oil for Food program were located in France, Germany, and Russia. Plus the human rights abuses, which are a good justification all its own. But the timing was certainly poor.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Good point on the human rights abuses. Saddam was certainly a bad dude, and there’s no denying that. Which makes our supporting him in the 1980s all the weirder (but nonetheless commonplace – see Pinochet in Chile).

The timing was awful.

Sudden
Sudden

Yes, al-Qaida was based on Afghanistan and supported by the Taliban.

Because al Qaida itself was established by the US gov in order to fight the soviets in 79.

BleedingRedAndGold

Better foreign policy requires policies that can endure for more than 4-8 years, which would requires bipartisan cooperation.

Some cultures think of diplomacy in decades or generations, so our rate of change must seem insanely fast. Also, I suspect that the foreign policy changes introduce vulnerabilities in unforeseen places. Unfortunately, the only thing the Parties seem to be able to agree on is putting off our departure from Afghanistan. Other places, too, but there’s precious little benefit in occupying that place, as any student of military history should know. So that gets top priority.

Sudden
Sudden

Sadly, there is remarkable bipartisan consensus and all around continuity regarding foreign policy aims. And when someone does come to power who claims to have other plans for foreign policy, he is quickly brought to heel by the permanent bureaucracy or finds himself the target of outlandish investigations and distractions.

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ

LJ has this guy on speed dial

Nasrani
Nasrani

LZIII took a while to grow on me when I first got it, but that’s because I didn’t realize it had this gem on it:

Also Jimmy Page’s only use of a banjo with Led Zeppelin.

pompano
pompano

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