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What a gloomy day … yuck.

Outside of acquiring a new offensive lineman, a new defensive tackle, the plethora of injuries the Chiefs have had to absorb as of late, an upcoming opponent who appears to have an offense firing on all cylinders, and the fact that the Patriots still seem to play a schedule softer that Bounty, what do we really have to talk about?

Oh, yea, maybe all of the above.

I also want to take this time out to introduce those of you who may perhaps share similar musical tastes as my own to a band ArrowheadGuy contributor Jared Poole recently joined, “Xeros.” They will be playing around the area here very shortly as well.

Also, does anyone remember actress Mathilda May? I just discovered her when watching YouTube videos of a guy that riffs on old B movies and, man … wow.

Anyway, what’s on YOUR mind tonight?

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Panzer85
Panzer85

In honor of Joe Satriani re-releasing ‘Surfing with the Alien’, here’s my favourite song from the original release. I know he wants to showcase the quality of the album, but I can’t imagine these songs without their solos. For example, this track doesn’t even get going until 1:40. Without that solo, I can’t see this song having the same emotion or impact. It doesn’t seem right, but all power to him. I think I’ll just keep listening to the original release, thanks.

jmgunn0124
jmgunn0124

That Xeros song was really good! Hasn’t been my genre for some time but it seemed really high quality (the song, not the video although for seemingly low budget the video wasn’t bad at all). Brought back some memories and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Good for Jared!

Caleb Durland

Hey guys! This is Caleb, co-host of the 15 for 50 podcast, and I’m just wondering what you guys think of the podcast? What do you like? What do you dislike? Any suggestions? Anything you’d like to see?

pompano
pompano

I thought one listened to a podcast 🙂

Leaf
Leaf

There’s another podcast? I’ll check it out then get back to you.

Caleb Durland

Yes sir! Another one comes out in the morning!!!

Mitko

It’s terrible ! We want more Mitko Show, like 3x a week! Rabble rabble rabble

Leaf
Leaf

You have a podcast? 😜

Mitko

Oops thought I was using KDs burner

Caleb Durland

Ouch. But fr, you need to bring your friend on for a mid season recap lmao

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

Flyers with the shutout! 4 points to start the season works

BleedingRedAndGold

Waltzing Mathilda, waltzing Mathilda, won’t you go waltzing Mathilda with me…

pompano
pompano

Roy!

Snafu
Snafu

By the billabong?

stjoechief

Sorry, this is what that lyric makes me think of:

pompano
pompano

Mitko

Y’all ready for the Texans game?

Tyrone

Nope

Leaf
Leaf

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Tyrone

I’m as ready as Ryan Hunter late in the 3rd quarter.

Leaf
Leaf

Lol nice. Sad, but still funny in a masochistic way.

BleedingRedAndGold

I’m as ready as I ever am. The thing that gives me the willies most is what will probably follow if we lose. Given another round of negative waves so soon after the last one, I’ll probably have to fade into the background in the comments.

Jdklks
Jdklks

Ready for a bye week!

Leaf
Leaf

We need some real music up in here

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

After seeing Erving play, I never want to hear another bad word towards Fisher again.

Leaf
Leaf

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Edit: I don’t disagree with your point. But realistically nothing will change.

dragon6172
dragon6172

That’s racist. Or so I’ve heard.

Leaf
Leaf

She is pretty pale. I bet she works forces

Leaf
Leaf

I’m guessing this reference went over everyone’s head

pompano
pompano

Not at all, I just don’t understand it…

Leaf
Leaf

Growing up in the 90s I discovered that some of those that work force, are the same that burn crosses.

Tyrone

Got it now.

pompano
pompano

Was “work force” a slogan I don’t remember?

Leaf
Leaf

pompano
pompano

Don’t know why I wasn’t into them at the time. Great songs.
White Zombie RHCP Green Day Soundgarden took up my music time I guess.

Leaf
Leaf

They are very political in their lyrics, and I know that was off putting to some.

pompano
pompano

Who listens to the lyrics?
and i prefer off putting lyrics,
if i only knew

DaChefs
DaChefs

Maynard on Know Your Enemy is dope.

Snafu
Snafu

I’ll never understand the anime thing.

Leaf
Leaf

From me? Or just anime in general?

Snafu
Snafu

General.

Mitko

There’s a lot of things you can do in anime that would cost a fortune to do for live action. Also certain gags and stuff that can play well in an anime that fail in live action

Leaf
Leaf

They are just cartoons. Stories like any other. Just from another country. The appeal for me is the stories crafted are often more complex and fleshed out then their western counterparts. This isn’t always the case as there are plenty of shounen anime that are as generic as anything on CN. And every now and then, the western world shocks everyone with a Gravity Falls. They are also often influenced by themes and mythologies that are not seen on western TV.

BleedingRedAndGold

I agree with the others. Sure, anime can be simplistic and trite, just like any other entertainment medium, but there are also animes that are pretty grown-up. On the humor side I can recommend Club to Death Angel and Ebichu Keeps House. The first is PG-13 level for hyperviolence, the second closer to an R, given all the sex jokes and other adult humor. Find a version with a commentary CC track that explains some of the jokes, since they are for a Japanese POV. The explanations may not make the jokes funny, but you can develop an awareness of the humor that helps you get future ones. Ebichu’s a hamster, BTW – and yeah, there’s violence humor there, too. Good stuff, Maynard.

Leaf
Leaf

also for the more adult oriented audience, but on a more serious tone, Samurai Champloo has some bad ass action scenes, Cowboy Beebop is a great space western, and Steins Gate is easily one of the best time travel stories ever created in any medium. Would highly recommend all three.

APtransplant25
APtransplant25

Is Dragon Ball- Z considered an anime?

Leaf
Leaf

Yes. It’s a pretty typical shounen anime.

slackator
slackator

thats like asking is Gone with the Wind considered a Classic

Snafu
Snafu

Maybe I’ll break down some day and check out a couple.

pompano
pompano

Cowboy Beebop is the only one I recommend to everyone. But I,m not that deep into the genre.

Leaf
Leaf

Cowboy Beebop is a good introduction anime because it’s very relatable to western audiences. While Samurai Champloo has some contemporary influences, it’s still set in feudal Japan so some of the mannerisms and references might go over one’s head. Steins Gate is absolutely fantastic, but it’s hardcore sci-fi (which isn’t always everyone’s cup of tea) and is set in modern Tokyo so again, the cultural differences might seem odd to those not familiar with them.

BleedingRedAndGold

Agreed on Cowboy Bebop, as they clearly draw influences from Heinlein and Piers Anthony’s Bio of a Space Tyrant (to a lesser degree). And the music is excellent, too. Love me the intro.

Edited to add that I’ll have to check out SG, and mention Ghost in the Shell, Area 88, FLCL and Big O as non-insipid and quite adult in tone. Oh yeah, and Big O borrows from Asimov, believe it or not. The last one may look kinda child-oriented at first, but there’s a sophisticated set of story lines going on. Serious looks into the nature of humanity/setience, and a mystery past that no one seems to be able to remember.

BleedingRedAndGold

Jeez, almost forgot Spirited Away, a classic in its own right.

pompano
pompano

Spirited was very good, will have to check it out again.
Watched Howl’s rambling house recently, holds up well

BleedingRedAndGold

Perhaps odd how an anime based on a Brit author’s book, i.e. Howl’s Moving Castle, can work, but work it does.

pompano
pompano

Some things walk the razors edge well.
Everyones edge is unique.

Leaf
Leaf

Princess Mononoke is my favorite Miyazaki film. and is so dark compared to his other stuff.

pompano
pompano

Gonna check out Steins Gate, never heard of it, looks promising

Leaf
Leaf

It’s one of my all time favorites.

Tyrone

I mostly only ever hear people complaining about people complaining Fisher. I rearely ever hear people actually complaining about Fisher. Not since James Harrison retired anyway.

BleedingRedAndGold

The talk about him being a bust has died down, but there are still those who talk about him like he’s a bad LT. They don’t actually come out and say it, but the way the complaints are worded makes it pretty clear the purpose is to throw shade at him. At least as of last season, harder to say about this year.

Complaining isn’t always clear and overt. Same goes for having it in for a player, as in both cases the vendetta’s hidden behind a screen of plausible deniability. That said, I’m fine with some criticism, but that changes when the criticism becomes an ongoing thing, with comment after tedious comment all boiling down to “this guy sucks, and it’s a fact”. It’s barely above the level of name-calling. Homers, OTOH, may constitute a nuisance as well, but we’re fans, so there will always be some homerism going on.

BleedingRedAndGold

If we’d had Fish starting and Erving at LG I believe the game wouldn’t have gone in the Colts’ favor. Having an open door to his right was more than a backup LT was going to be able to handle.

Tyrone

We also would have had a much better chance to win if we had Jeff Allen to replace Andrew Wylie rather than Mr 0.0

BleedingRedAndGold

Agreed. I don’t know who it was that decided that whoever-it-was was ready to play, but it was a mistake, no doubt about it. I don’t know enough about Allen’s situation to speculate as to why he was fired, but we can’t change the past with 20/20 hindsight. So they hired someone else as a fix for the problem. How good he’ll be we can’t say, but he’s got to be better than 0.0.

Tyrone

I feel bad for Ryan Hunter. Finally got his shot and blew it badly, and then gets fired the next day. That’s gotta be crushing for him.

BleedingRedAndGold

No kidding. Hopefully Team Reid gave him advice and a good letter of recommendation, so he has a chance to catch on elsewhere. He played like shit, but that6 doesn’t mean he can’t develop into a role.

legal_kush
legal_kush

I promise to wait until he takes another snap in pass protection, but that’s as far as I’m willing to go.

Leaf
Leaf

What a gloomy day … yuck.

Outside of acquiring a new offensive lineman, a new defensive tackle, the plethora of injuries the Chiefs have had to absorb as of late, an upcoming opponent who appears to have an offense firing on all cylinders, and the fact that the Patriots still seem to play a schedule softer that Bounty

I’ve moved on. But if you guys want to wallow in self pity,

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Tyrone

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Okafor practicing is huge.

Tyrone

I’m convinced Tyreek plays this week

BleedingRedAndGold

Okafor is huge, from my perspective.

Tyrone

BleedingRedAndGold

Fingers, toes, and eyes crossed that he’s at least back to pre-Colts game health with it, though I still wouldn’t object to starting Moore for a game to let it heal. We’d likely lose, but I’d pay that price to have Mahomes back to 100% going forward. Besides, if his ankle’s slow to heal some Burfict type might try and go after it to sideline him.

Which is probably evidence that I’d be a bad GM – at least from where I’m sitting in minimal-informationland. With a GM level of information I think I’d at least be less bad, though.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

To any wrestling fans, AEW will be on TruTV due to baseball.

BleedingRedAndGold

Nice weather up this way, so I got out and helped a friend with some pre-winter yardwork. Arm’s still a bit weak and the elbow’s still sore, but using it for some work should be helpful in rehabbing. Didn’t put much stress on it, at least. On the football side, Seth Keysor’s latest piece over at The Athletic won’t make the people who are really down on Clark happy, as according to his evaluation Clark isn’t a lazy, no-talent player. He doesn’t give him a free pass on his pass rushing performance, as he notes that Clark’s 1 v 1 performance has slid since last year – but he also notes that Clark draws a significant amount of extra attention on passing snaps. Not “all the time”, of course, but very few people are actually claiming that.

I know I trust Seth’s film review more than I do that of the big-name analysts, and as for those who are going by personal eye test and statistics they cobble together to “prove” a point…

Tony Sommer

I haven’t been on here much recently since I’ve been busy focusing on other things, but now that I have a moment let me ruin the O/T by talking about politics! Well, at least kind of.

A while back I put some money on Elizabeth Warren to become the next president at odds of 26-1. Now that number’s all the way down to 2-1, with her being favored to win the Democratic nomination and the Democrats are slightly favored to win the election. Overall I’m pretty happy with that bet.

Tyrone

How much? Better be at least $100.

Tony Sommer

Sadly only $5, but that’ll still be a payout of $130. I’m a wuss when it comes to gambling so I only bet $10 at a time mostly.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

With Trump likely gone, if Bernie doesn’t get the nom, I am sitting this general out.

Tyrone

Likely gone?

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

I anticipate some GOP bullshit.

BleedingRedAndGold

Perhaps. IMO Trump won because a lot of people “protest voted” for him. After his term’s up, I can’t see too many people doing the same thing. His best hope for re-election is if the Dems are foolish enough to engineer another nomination for St. Hillary. Trumpfans and blue-dog Republicans won’t be enough to carry him, and his record’s pretty crappy.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Impeachment will end him.

BleedingRedAndGold

I haven’t been following that, mainly because people were screaming for his impeachment before he even took office. Crying wolf for years doesn’t win any respect from me when you finally find the excuse you’ve been searching after for years.

You can say that the impeachment, if it happens, won’t be political, but not everyone is gonna see it that way because the Left has poisoned that well. Political impeachment is not something that will make things better. We got lucky when Clinton’s impeachment fizzled, but impeach Trump and the GOP will be inclined to follow the precedent. Which, of course, will make them the “bad guys” because the Dem side will loudly proclaim that the action against Trump “wasn’t at all political, trust us!”.

Once you start to monkey with institutions, traditions, and precedents in the system of gov’t you are playing with fire. Anyone who’s pissed at Trump doing pen-and-phone governing need only look to Obama, who set that precedent. It’s a poor precedent to have in gov’t, but now we have it. Yay.

Leaf
Leaf

Every impeachment is political, and every one will be (short of the president shooting someone on live TV).

BleedingRedAndGold

If it’s gov’t, of course politics will be involved, but to date we’ve avoided turning it into a political tool. If he’d remained in office I think Nixon’s would have been more about the actions he took than the party politics, and I also think he resigned in part to protect the impeachment precedents. Prior to that he’d been the target of a lot of political hatred, which would have an bad impact on those precedents.

In short, if he’d been impeached and stood trial in the Senate he’d likely be convicted, so saving his own skin is in there, too, but that doesn’t mean he took no heed of governmental institutions and such. And anyway, running through scenarios in my head I find it hard to imagine an outcome better for the nation than what we got.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Impeachment will end him.

That’s a naive thought. Considering it has to go through the Senate. Not saying trump is doing himself any favors, but the only chance the Dems have is to nominate someone who isn’t an extremist aka socialist aka bernie or Elizabeth Warren. Their best chance is a Biden or buttigieg kinda guy.

legal_kush
legal_kush

Impeachment is the sole responsibility of the House.
Removal (or not) from office is a trial of sorts held in the Senate as a result of impeachment, presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Jackson and Clinton were both impeached, but neither were removed from office as a result, which does not change the fact that they were impeached in the least.
Nixon was not impeached, having resigned before any deciding vote on articles of impeachment occured.
It certainly appears articles of impeachment will occur regarding Trump, but at this point it is but an inquiry.

BleedingRedAndGold

I plan on “wasting” my vote again, because the main parties are probably too corrupt to be fixed – and it’s only wasted because nobody votes for smaller parties to avoid “wasting” their vote. If more people wasted their votes, they wouldn’t be wasted any more. Thus the two parties dominate election after election while doing very little good for the nation.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

I might do that too. Warren made her bed in 2016 when she supported Clinton over Bernie. Plus living in Missouri and thanks to the bullcrap EC, my vote ultimately means squat.

BleedingRedAndGold

You may think a direct popular vote is better than the Electoral College, but as bad as the two party situation currently is, a one-party city-based system of gov’t would be worse, even if the other party scrapes along well enough to be the token opposition. City folks don’t understand life away from cities, so they get ideas about small-town and country folks, like how they should be disarmed because city reasons.

Popular vote? Bah, the translation from the Latin “Vox populi, vox dei” works out to be “how the hell did we get into this mess?”. A straight-up popularity contest is little better than mob rule and can only result in worse candidates for office. No, thank you.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Rania/Cruz 2020: Because why not?

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Leaf
Leaf

While that would be the hottest ticket ever, the constitution would have to be changed for it to even be possible.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Doesn’t stop me from voting for them (again).

Plus, if you look at Jordan’s politics, Rania is the reason that their per-capita literacy rate was (is?) higher than that of the UK’s, and why Jordan – a nation the size of Indiana surrounded by the Israel/Palestine dispute, Saudi Arabia’s radicalism, and the conflagrations of Iraq and Syria – has such stability in a region that desperately needs it. She’s actually probably overqualified for the job, considering who we’ve trotted out the last few election cycles.

Leaf
Leaf

With Bernie’s recent heart attack, he will be a hard one to win the nom.

BleedingRedAndGold

If Team Hillary hadn’t screwed him over he might have gotten the nom, and if so I might have voted for him against Trump. Sanders has some pretty simplistic and naive views, but Trump was a blowhard and a buffoon before he ran. Call him the Skip Bayless of politics and you get pretty close. Sanders, at least, would have been more careful of the office. But no, it had to be Hillary, and now we have Trump. She’s no more moral than he is, and she’s a competent schemer. King Log might be bad, but Queen Stork would be worse.

Leaf
Leaf

Exactly my views as well. Sanders was probably the best choice for something different then the same ol same ol we’ve had in office without all the controversy.

Snafu
Snafu

That would be a yuge mistake.

Nasrani
Nasrani

For fans of Iron Maiden, the lead guitarist/vocalist of this late 70s metal band went on to join Iron Maiden as their guitar player, but this gem from 1977 comes from his former band Urchin. The band has a decent discography but this is probably the most famous song from it:

pompano
pompano

another motorcycle lead in