Morning Huddle: Chiefs Add DL, Mahomes Classier Than Baker

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A defensive lineman signing, Sherman sounds off on Mayfield, a lot to learn about the defense with Jones out.

Chiefs news for 9 October 2019

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Kansas City Chiefs sign defensive lineman Terrell McClain | Arrowhead Addict

In the wake of multiple serious injuries along the defensive line, the Kansas City Chiefs have made a move heading into Week 6 to sign veteran defensive tackle Terrell McClain, per NFL reporter Tom Pelissero. The Chiefs are in need of bodies along the line, especially the interior, after suffering a couple major injuries on Sunday.
McClain is a stout 9-year veteran who has played with several teams, including the Carolina Panthers, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins and, most recently, Atlanta Falcons. He’s played in 87 career games, starting 34 of them, and should settle in as a rotational lineman. The Chiefs also have third round pick Khalen Saunders to move up alongside Derrick NnadiJoey Ivie is also available on the team’s practice squad, while some ends could also potentially slide inside in the right situation.

Chiefs signing offensive lineman Stefen Wisniewski | Pro Football Talk

The Chiefs have agreed to terms with offensive lineman Stefen Wisniewski, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports. Wisniewski, 30, has played 123 games in eight seasons. Wisniewski started seven games for the Eagles in 2018 after starting 11 in the regular season and all three postseason games in 2017.

Some former K-State, KU, Mizzou players (and Chiefs) included in XFL’s draft pool | KC Star

Players of regional interest included in the draft pool as of Tuesday afternoon include former K-State Wildcats safeties Danzel McDaniel and Kendall Adams, linebacker Arthur Brown and defensive tackle Will Geary; former Kansas Jayhawks quarterback Jake Heaps, cornerback JaCorey Shepherd, defensive end Michael Reynolds and tackle Dwayne Wallace; and former Missouri Tigers receiver L’Damian Washington, linebacker Eric Beisel and cornerback Aarion Penton.
Some of the players, such as former MU wideout Washington — who spent two weeks with the Chiefs during the 2015 preseason — KSU product Brown and former Jayhawks QB Heaps have previously tried out for or played on NFL and/or CFL rosters.
Remember Nick Novak? He kicked for the Chiefs in 2008, once drilling four field goals in a game. Alas, he was cut the following month after missing a pair of attempts. He, too, is in the XFL draft pool.

San Francisco 49ers fueled by Baker Mayfield’s pregame snub | NFL.com

Yet Sherman, the San Francisco 49ers‘ ninth-year cornerback, also views the NFL as a fraternity, and there are certain rituals he considers sacrosanct. When Baker Mayfield, the Cleveland Browns‘ brash second-year quarterback, refused to shake Sherman’s hand at midfield just before the coin toss that preceded Monday night’s game at Levi’s Stadium, it triggered him — and many of his Niners teammates — in a profound way.
“He hasn’t earned anything in this league. How many games has he won? He’s acting like he was the MVP last year. If (Patrick) Mahomes did that, it would be one thing. But he would never do that, because he has too much respect for the game.

KC Chiefs: What we learned about each team in AFC West after week 5 | KC Kingdom

It’s definitely safe to say that the Los Angeles Chargers have been one of the most disappointing teams to this point in the season. They’ll have a chance to get back to .500 next week on Sunday Night Football when the Steelers come to town with their likely third string quarterback.
For Broncos fans, finally winning a game was a huge weight off their shoulder, as the franchise had never been 0-5 in their entire history. While 1-4 isn’t great, it’s definitely better than 0-5. Denver looks to move to either 2-4 or 1-5 next week when they travel to Nashville for a date with the Titans.
I have no idea what to think about the Oakland Raiders. At times, they looked fantastic on Sunday. Other times, they were throwing the ball into the backfield and looking like a dumpster fire of a team. With that said, however, the Raiders handled the Bears with a 24-21 victory in London.
Kansas City was demolished on the ground, as the Colts racked up 180 rushing yards and held onto the ball for 15 minutes longer than the Chiefs did. That’s right – Indy had the ball for nearly an entire quarter longer than KC did. That is not okay. There was a lot to be upset about in this 13-19 loss to a much inferior team, but if the Kansas City Chiefs don’t learn from it, then that’d be the worst possible thing to come from this game. Here’s to hoping they rebound next week at Arrowhead Stadium against a Texans team that hung 53 on the Falcons.

Kansas City Chiefs undergo a defensive experiment without Chris Jones | Arrowhead Addict

Given the lack of a deal, it’s natural to question the Chiefs commitment to make something happen with Jones. Maybe the Chiefs wanted to see how well he would play in a new defensive system. Perhaps the Chiefs wanted to see whether Khalen Saunders, this year’s third round pick, could potentially replace him down the road. It’s possible they simply view it as too much money to spend on the defensive line. No matter the reason, K.C. has yet to move.
Without him, well, we don’t know what the Chiefs have. General manager Brett Veach drafted Khalen Saunders in the third round, a small-school prospect out of Western Illinois dubbed the “Aaron Donald of the FCS.” The ceiling is reportedly high for Saunders. If true, it’s entirely possible that Veach is saving significant money and gaining long-term flexibility by eventually substituting one for the other. On paper it sounds good. On the field, the difference in the present between Jones and Saunders is significant.
These next few weeks will be very telling for K.C. If the interior is able to hold its own and even make some disruptive plays without Jones, the internal and even external posture of a long-term deal for Jones might switch to something more year-to-year given the money involved. If, however, Jones’s tremendous talent is clearly missed in the middle, it might just accelerate whatever slow timeline the Chiefs have in mind to offer him a deal.

Week 6 NFL picks, odds: Texans send Chiefs to second straight loss, Eagles upset Vikings in Minnesota |CBS Sports

While Houston exploded for 53 points in Sunday’s win over Atlanta, the Chiefs’ offense scored just 13 points points in Sunday night’s loss to the visiting Indianapolis ColtsPatrick Mahomes and the Chiefs’ offense will surely be motivated to light up the scoreboard, but I’m riding the hot hand and going with Deshaun Watson (426 passing yards, five touchdowns against the Falcons) and the Texans to pull off the upset at Arrowhead. Kansas City’s 30th ranked run defense is another reason why I’m going with Houston. 
The pick: Texans 35, Chiefs 31 

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No practice for #Chiefs today but they must estimate an injury report. CB Kendall Fuller (thumb), LT Eric Fisher (groin), DT Chris Jones (groin) and LG Andrew Wylie (ankle) would not have practiced.

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If ppl knew how many smelling salts were used during (and before) the game they'd be shocked. The sidelines are littered with used ammonia tablets. For example, every game I put 4 into an empty bottle and kept it at my locker for pregame. Took a whiff before I head out.

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NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs

Whoo-HOO! Cincy-Baldemer! I love you Sunday Ticket!

3rdnlong
3rdnlong

I don’t see any problem with signing Jones. Even if Saunders balls out. Better to have 2 solid interior linemen than just one…

dragon6172
dragon6172

Ugh, have to listen to Fouts for this weekends game

RDD India
RDD India

I’m worried. Is Pat’s GF pushing for marriage? Are they engaged? I don’t want Pat to be upset!

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zulu trader

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TX_CHIEFSfan
TX_CHIEFSfan

I think silver and steel are her dogs names. I could be way off. Or this may not be relevant but I wouldn’t read too much into it.
I’m not one for tweeting or Fb for that matter. I like my life private.

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ

Can Wisniewski play both ways? Asking for a friend.

RDD India
RDD India

He can take both ways!

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Is the injury report out yet? I’m afraid to see but I need to know!

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ

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ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

So now we’ve had McSpin and 0.0 on our line. Why didn’t we sign Jeff Allen back? Is this Wisnewski guy any good?

tsv0728
tsv0728

I would guess Jeff isn’t down for the cut/sign/cut drama..

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Maybe Spiller needs to give him a call and straighten him out

CJ_Spiller
CJ_Spiller

Justin Houston is your AFC PLAYER OF THE WEEK. FUCK YOU VEACH.

Anyways, I think the run defense steps up a little this week. The Houston OL is nowhere near as good as the Colts, nor is Hyde as good as Mack. By step up I mean, 80-100yds as opposed to close to 200 again. So still not good.

Unfortunately, this is the week the DBs get exposed. KC will get no pass rush without Jones. Watkins is going to toss up 50/50 balls to Hopkins and Fuller with great success. 300+ yards and 3 TDs for him, minimum.

The offense better get right, including Reid’s game plan to protect Pat. Gonna need at least 30 to win this game.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

To ensure that Fuller is NOT going to have a big game, I picked him up and started him this week in fantasy. I further took steps to ensure Hardman has a big day by releasing him to acquire Fuller. You’re welcome, KC.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Good looking out bro!

RDD India
RDD India

Atta boy! I got my bottle of whiskey and half pound of 🌿🌿🌿🌿ready.

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mgrafton
mgrafton

Thank you for your service.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

Let’s see what Houston does the rest of the season before we denounce Veach. . Last Sunday was his Super Bowl. He wasn’t earning his salary with us.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

I dunno if Houston was earning his pay or not, last year I think it was closer than most than the years previous. In my opinion he was playing much better than Clark is this year. Either way he was going to cost 17 mil this year and we are still paying him 7 to play for Indy. Being as we are now paying Clark 20.5 mil to play not as good imo, or no better at best I think we got the short end of the stick.

Basically we could have kept Houston and left Clark in Seattle and saved 10 million and a first and second rounder. We also wouldn’t have been tied to anyone for 5 years more years.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Whose soul do I have to sell to get an explosive offense AND a real defense, a la San Francisco?

legal_kush
legal_kush

They beat the Browns. As in Cleveland.
Let’s not crown them just yet.

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Mink Farmer
Mink Farmer

I know we’re all in a doom and gloom mood, but if you squint we’re close. The defense is 15th in points allowed and I have a hunch the offense will regain its explosive qualities.

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Stefen Wisniewski

Height: 6-3 Weight: 305 Age: 30
Born: 3/22/1989 Pittsburgh , PA
College: Penn State
Draft: Oakland Raiders in the 2nd round (48th overall) of the 2011 NFL Draft.

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Terrell McClain
6-2, 300lb
Draft: Carolina Panthers in the 3rd round (65th overall) of the 2011 NFL Draft.

Career
TOT SOLO….AST..SACK…..FF
127 … 84 … 43 .. .7.5 … 3

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

It’s definitely safe to say that the Los Angeles Chargers have been one of the most disappointing teams to this point in the season.

The only ones who are disappointed are the people who propped them up all offseason (as they often do). You cant be disappointed if you were expecting a slow start from them (like I was and anyone who knows what the chargers are about).

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Boy, this SF-Cleveland rivalry sure is shaping up to be for the ages 🤣😂
Look out world!

ChiefDog
ChiefDog

Before the toss (a handshake occurs):

After the toss: (being referred to by Sherman)

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I’m still greatly dissatisfied by Sunday night. Really need a new game to purge that turd from my memory…

RDD India
RDD India

I think I am over it now and looking actively for who chiefs sign/ waive. I think I have stopped seeing ghosts everywhere too.

RDD India
RDD India

Can we see DAT somewhere on state borders smoking / trafficking pot than playing at Arrowhead next week?

backbone313
backbone313

As much as folks dislike DAT… He was needed the last game to have a 4th WR on field.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

If nothing else, Cody Thompson needs to be on the team in DAT’s spot.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Why is everyone hating on DAT? I missed most of the game, but I’m assuming he did not play well. The brief bit I did see showed bashaud breeland get a 50 yard PI and a couple holding calls.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Another fair catch at the four yardline.

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SCKSChief
SCKSChief

That is not a fair catch at the 4.

Tyrone

He’s averaging something like 1 yard per return on punts this season, and continually fair catches punts inside the 5. He could just leave them and it would be about a 50/50 chance they bounce for a touchback.

backbone313
backbone313

Oh understand that, still haven’t purged that turd named Dee “was I really offsides? ” Ford from my memory.

Yet all the sudden Ford is a hero again since sack on MNF. It was as close to unanimous that Ford did not deserve a 2nd contract, now some fans are shoulda, woulda, coulda with the guy who cost the Chiefs a shot at a SB.

(Note: when your team secures the game ending interception that would have ended the game, only to have a “superstar” nullified he by lining up with your shoulder pads past the LOS… that’s classified as costing your team a SB)

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater

The only reason people miss Ford and/or Houston is Frank Clark.

RDD India
RDD India

^^^^^*Ding Ding sinh ! Winner !!!

backbone313
backbone313

Never understood some arguments against Mahomes.

He will regress in his 2nd year with game tape (Mayfield, Baker)

He is a system QB

Put him on any other team his talent does not translate

He has Coach Reid

But the strangest one is he took over a playoff team.

So, what did Watson take over? Hou traded up from late in the draft into the teens. Why was Hou drafting late in the 1st? Where they a playoff team the year before? Did Watson walk into the facility with a playoff team already sorrounding him? Doesn’t Watson have 1 of if not the best WR in the NFL?

Hou spent heavy draft capital building that offense before Watson was drafted. They continue to build the offense after Watson is the starting QB.

So why are the same arguement against Mahomes not being applied to Watson? Is it the Reid v O’Brien affect?

It’s just odd Watson V Mahomes in debates.

RDD India
RDD India

I think it has more to do with Reid > Any coach/ oc , O’Brian. Andy’s track record and offensive creativity is creating that doubt in talking head’s mind. Mahomes is not a systems QB, Andy helps though.

RDD India
RDD India

GM WMD!I saw the video of coin toss and I did’nt see Sherman and Baker handshake. I saw both lifting their hands though. However I thought Baker pulled his hand midway as actual hands were not visible at that instance in that video. Anayway, I agree that Mahomie is way classier than Mayfiled.

BleedingRedAndGold

Mahomes learned early on the characteristic of great players, and the difference between ridiculously-talented losers and highly-talented winners. He didn’t choose the Dark Side. Also looks like RBs are making a case for being a little more important than the analytics guys gave them credit for. Which figures, because a high-end RB isn’t a statistic, but a set of skills and talents. It’s up to the OC to get the most out of those assets, and most are lazy that way. Andy Reid is not.

RDD India
RDD India

Yeah, but I was pretty pissed that Andy didn’t even try much to establish or try more running plays in first half. I wish Andy calls more screen and designed run plays, after all we got guys who can get it done. And then he goes ahead calls a run play on 4th & 1. Sure Andy knows more football than most of us here, but that was a head scratcher.

BleedingRedAndGold

The problem with running the ball last week is that we basically had a revolving door at left guard. That pretty much cuts out anything to the left side, and only being able to run on one side is not a good strategy. IMO Erving whiffed on Houston there at the end because he was concerned about the guy to his right, and with good reason.