The Credit List: Week 4 Lions

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Every week Arrowhead Guys plays the Credit List or the Blame Game. We’re giving out props today.

Every week we either play The Blame Game or post the Credit List, depending on the outcome of the game. Following the Chiefs’ narrow victory over the Lions, we go straight to The Credit List.

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It’s pretty easy how this works. We list the five people most deserving of the credit for this win. As always, readers are encouraged to play along, but you must follow the rules (we have rules here?). You get to choose five, and only five, people who deserve the most credit for the victory and must list them in order. I will list them in order from least to most credit, finishing last with the single person I believe is most responsible for the result of the game. Jump to the comments and do the same. Just remember: rules.

Now, without any further blabbering, let’s get to it.

Travis Kelce:

Travis Kelce led the Chiefs in receiving with 7 catches for 85 yards on the day. Perhaps his best play of the day was an immediate lateral late in the game to…

LeSean McCoy:

…who ran another 23 yards to put the Chiefs in scoring position, allowing the Chiefs to go up 27-23 to start out the 4th quarter. Shady finished the day with 11 rushes for 56 yards (5.1 ypc) and one score on the ground along with 2 receptions for another 33 yards.

Derrick Nnadi:

Its not often you see a defensive tackle not named Chris Jones showing up on the Credit List, but Derrick Nnadi was all over the field Sunday for the Chiefs. He finished the game with 8 tackles (5 solo) and a strip sack (recovered by Jones) on Matt Stafford in the Red Zone.

Patrick Mahomes:

As noted previously, the Credit List is likely to be “Mahomes and 4 Dudes” on any given week, and even though he lost the top spot this week he still makes the cut.

Patrick Mahomes was off for much of the game, failing to connect on passes we’ve come to expect he makes. But much like everything else Mahomes-related, even on his worst day he passes for 315 yards and no picks (despite no touchdowns) and the team wins 34-30.

/shrugs

Bashaud Breeland:

Bashaud Breeland was the difference between a win and loss. His heads up play to pick up the fumble on the goal line and run it back for a 100 yard touchdown gave the Chiefs just the edge they needed to pull out the win.

Game Ball, Breeland.

Who are the Top 5 on your Credit List?

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RamX21
RamX21

Don’t have a 5 credit list. I just wanna say that all the people drooling over Chris Jones and saying we need to re-sign him blh blah blah. He’s a HUGE part of our run defense looking like absolute shit.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Historically that may be true, but I don’t think it has been this year. Detroit mostly ran away from him, and he seems much more aware when he penetrates on a running play this year than last. The back would just cut around him into his vacated hole last year. This year he stands up his guy and locates the back, which I think is why he isn’t be run at nearly as much.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Don’t have a list. But I’d put Mahomes at No. 1, not because of his play, but because of his leadership. There are few QBs wired to gut out a dogfight like that. TB12 is the master.

CHIEFSandSABRES
CHIEFSandSABRES

Any word on who was released so we could activate Claiborne? He can be added today right?

Berserker

Sorensen…?

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Tarkus

Tomorrow. Have to finish the week (MNF) first.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

My guess is Fenton. I sure do like him but he’s not very put together as a player yet.

EAFOX

5) Byron Pringle – Some receivers fumble the ball with that last hit.
4) Chris Jones – he dominated for awhile
3) Mahomes – he saved the best for last
2) Kelce – He was the mainstay of the receivers
1) Shady – He was consistent for most of the day

Nasrani
Nasrani

That shovel pass to McCoy to keep that drive alive deserves a nod too.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

It got more yards but Kelsey was already far enough for a first down

EAFOX

Hate to be off topic but Cardinals cut DJ Swearinger – I know we seem loaded at safety but should we have an interest here.

Berserker

We should sign him and then trade him and Ward for Pat Pete.

Berserker

5. Pringle. He only did one thing, but it was basically the last most difficult thing that needed to be done to get the W.

4. Mahomes. He’s not fourth on the list because he had a bad day, he’s ON the list because he had a 300+ yard and 0-INT and game winning drive decent type day, and three other players had a better day.

3. Kelce. He’s become the dependable grown-up in the room. How weird is that?

2. Chris Jones. The announcers who were obviously and over-enthusiastically (god Charles Davis irritates the hell out of me) yearning for an upset were forced to call him a Game Wrecker. True, and very satisfying.

1. Bashaud Breeland. Duh. But actually, in addition to the lol wut fumble, he had a pretty solid rest-of-the game, and a pretty solid season thus far. Wouldn’t be one bit mad if he got a new five year contract this very afternoon.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Wut he said

Berserker

Wutt Fumble©

rollin with mahomies
rollin with mahomies

I was waiting for someone to mention the terrible commentators. I just hate Fox in general, knew it would be pro-NFC as soon as it got scheduled.

1wombat
1wombat

Mile high report is really fun right now!

starry1

Damn, it’s kinda sad over there. Bwahahaha!

irafreak
irafreak

I don’t freak out because he’s a vet but I wonder why shady is so loose with the ball. Swinging it around in his hand in the open field….

Berserker

Because there always has to be at least one person who Gets Away With It.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

For his career dating back to 2009 Shady has fumbled 22 times. He had zero last year and 3 each the two years prior to that. Damn, I still miss Kareem Hunt.

zulu trader
zulu trader

who is getting ready to come back

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

It just kills me. I know we have a nice RB room. But man he’s special and he carries the ball locked down with gorilla glue and wrapped in duct tape.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Thats his thing. He is so known for it, his Madden animation looks the same way.

Armychiefj
Armychiefj

I’m a contrarian at heart and this game was ugly as sin, so I’m breaking all the rules and going with the no-credit list this week:

1. Dave Toub – what the hell happened to our vaunted special teams? Flags on damn near every return all season. Turning a 58yd into a 53 yd FG attempt with an offsides. Fumbled KO return. A missed gimme field goal. And Colquitt has looked BAD this year, but this offense doesn’t punt enough to put Colquitt on a list by himself.

2.Sammy Watkins- looked awful all day. Twice had the ball punched out. One a fumble, the other a missed easy TD reception. Then did not even fight for the ball on that late passing TD attempt.

3. Hardman – the aforementioned KO fumble, seems to still be cutting off routes too early (though impossible to say for sure if he screwed up or Mahomes did, one of them gets the benefit of the doubt and its not Hardman).

4. Frank Clark. Has anyone seen him? Is it time to put his face on a milk carton?

5. Reid’s continued baffling time management – Take the damn time out at the end of the half. Take a couple shots at the end zone and then kick the field goal if you miss. Conversely, don’t take the time out before 4th and 8. Give yourself a chance to stop the clock if you fail it (which is the most likely scenario statistically speaking). That was not a designed draw, so the extra time to pick a play didn’t really seem to benefit us.

Tarkus

I’m fine with the 4th and 8 timeout. That’s the biggest play of the game, so you want to make sure you get it right. Because if you don’t, the game is over.

The end of the first half, OTOH, was inexcusable. That was just awful clock management.

Berserker

With special teams, yah, way too many mistakes. It’s weird and uncharacteristic.

But one ST thing that a lot of fans have been complaining about – bringing the ball out on kickoffs instead of taking the 25 free yards – ya know, I can see their reasoning there. If you’ve got an offense that can drive 200 yards easier than most other offenses can drive 75 yards, then why the hell not risk 10-15 yards of field position on an off-chance of breaking a big return?

Tarkus

I don’t mind the risk when they’re not getting a penalty every other return. That’s when I throw my hands up and ask, why even bother.

Berserker

Yeah, the decline this year is frustrating. What do you think, did Toub lose a key vet or assistant or something?

Tarkus

I don’t know. It’s still early. Could be just a rough stretch. I just hope it gets cleaned up soon. The Chiefs overall have been much better in the penalty department, but not on special teams.

zulu trader
zulu trader

yeah, Nnadi was everywhere. A little unusual for a big man in the middle. I like it

backbone313
backbone313

1. LT Erving. Seriesly didnt think he would even be on the team last year.

2. LG cant even think of his name

3. C Reiter

4. LDT

5. Schwartz

These 5 guys got it done on the ground and through the air. 2 min drive to win the game. Mahomes needs to be spending that endorsement money at the end of the year for them.

kcfreak725
kcfreak725

LG is Andrew Wylie. Overall I thought the line did enough to keep Mahomes upright. I don’t believe he was sacked in this game (correct me if I’m wrong on that) and they worked when it mattered most.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Mahomes was blasted a couple times but if I remember correctly, they were penalties.

Maybe I have to watch again but I remember being annoyed by the line.

Tarkus

3 hits and no sacks, and our running game did well. Yet fans (not saying here) still saying our OL is a problem. I think too many fans judge OL against perfection rather than against their peers. They don’t think a good OL should ever give up a pressure and a bad run. It’s an unreasonable expectation.

Z00keeper
Z00keeper

Yeah 3 sacks in four games against solid DLs is pretty damn good. A lot of that may be Mahomes’ instincts but the OL is a strength not a weakness.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

Sometimes OLines make their QB’s look better. Sometimes QBs make their OLines look better. Brady and Manning have always had good OLines because they themselves played to their line’s strengths. Mahomes is the same way. The Chiefs line isn’t great at giving him a clean pocket compared to the 2003 line, but he more than masks their deficiencies with his incredible pocket awareness.

Z00keeper
Z00keeper

Mahomes definitely has that Rodgers-like 6th sense in the pocket. Then there are guys like Deshaun Watson who can’t seem to figure it out.
Brady’s OL is pretty banged up so hopefully the scrub teams he plays the next few weeks can get after him.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Greened for hoping you’re right.

alsi2
alsi2

I recall being upset that Reid kept calling for runs off LG or LT and seemingly seeing all those runs get stuffed. Maybe there were exceptions or maybe I only saw a few of those while other times I missed it. I only got to see the 2nd half

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11

Broncos – CHUBB – lost for year – ACL

mgrafton
mgrafton

Kelce
Shady
Bashaud
Chris Jones
Mathieu

Mahomes is implied in all these ‘best of’ lists, so I won’t bother. He good.

O/T : Arrowhead Light show this weekend before player announcements!

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

Agreed his impact is seen and felt more so than 55 up to this point.

Spider
Spider

It appeared as though Pat and the gang were not making the same reads and the Lions DBs we’re playing ‘Legion of Boom’-dare-the-refs-to-call-them-all-style football.

upamtn

Pringle … one tough catch and an even tougher 5 yards after the catch … one HUGE play

starry1

Agreed. I’d like to see him get more snaps, but he’s probably back on the ps when reek returns.

Spider
Spider

Ty is still on the 53. No reason to bump him where he might get poached.

upamtn

back on PS when Claiborne is activated, maybe … we shall see

CJ_Spiller
CJ_Spiller

Byron Pringle for NOT fumbling taking that hit coming out of a spin move.

backbone313
backbone313

Curious whobis cut for Morris. Pringle, Dat or Lucas.

Mo don’t play ST.

CHIEFSandSABRES
CHIEFSandSABRES

Gotta be DAT

Armychiefj
Armychiefj

Lucas screwed up so bad on ST this week, it may be him.

Spider
Spider

A week ago I’d have said DAT because he hasn’t really played any O, but Lucas is the same position group as Mo, hasn’t played much D, and just had a terrible ST game.

Berserker

Yeah, but he also took 26 ST snaps (79%). That level of involvement, and the trouble it might take to replace it, might carry him through a bad week or two.

Z00keeper
Z00keeper

I’d guess one of our plethora of OL get cut.

Tarkus

Probably not till Fisher comes back.