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Come on in and talk about tomorrow’s game or anything else that’s on your mind.

I looked into the Lions’ defense against the Eagles from week three and there is quite a bit to take away from the game. I will say that against the run the Lions’ front seven is pretty good, but the Eagles have a good OL and were able to find some lanes for Jordan Howard and Miles Sanders. As we all know, the Chiefs will want to throw the ball a lot to start the game and so their running backs could be in for a big day.

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Being in zone coverage isn’t a strong suit for the Lions, they are much more comfortable in man coverage. With middle deep safety, you can’t allow Sander, at the top of the screen, to get by you because of an underneath threat. Should be a touchdown but Mahomes isn’t throwing that ball.

I think the Chiefs could exploit the Lions in off-coverage when in man. With the speed they have in Hardman and Watkins, look for Reid to scheme one of these two in the slot to get the matchup they want. Coleman could have himself a difficult day trying to keep up with those two.

Kelce will have another week of physical play from the linebackers and secondary of the Lions. They are going to make it harder for him to get open, if what they did to Ertz is any indication of what they’ll do to Kelce. They can’t afford to double him either because of all the other weapons. I think Kelce has a big day tomorrow.

Just remember, the Lions tied the Cardinals after having that game in the bag and gave the game to the Eagles but the Eagles decided they didn’t want to win either so they are 2-0-1 in a very roundabout way. I have Kelce going for over 100 yards and McCoy terrorizing the Lions linebackers, what are your predictions?

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zulu trader
zulu trader

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what brings us all together!

Leaf
Leaf

I know who my write-in in 2020 is going to be.

slackator
slackator

So looks like Ramseys playing tomorrow, I guess he isnt so much of a jerk after all for being at the birth of his child

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

whoa, hang on. I never said he was a jerk about the baby thing, but about tweeting that shit while you are on excused leave. Theres a time to keep your mouth shut, and that would seem to be that time

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

Watching the Viginia ND game on tape delay, no spoilers please. I want to see more of this DB ND has, #20 Shawn Crawford. His closing speed is impressive

EDIT–Apparently he got his arm busted the fuck up today. Went to read his stats and thats what popped up

zulu trader
zulu trader

but what does the Bible say ?

Romans 13: 1-3 says “Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.”

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hmills110
hmills110

What do you care if they bug your apartment, if you have nothing to hide, amirite? Those filthy Jews MUST have done something wrong, since I see the authorities loading them onto cattle cars. They’re the authorities, amirite?

Tony Sommer

Since it’s dead tonight, let’s talk about politics.

I’m absolutely shocked that Pelosi came out in favor of impeachment. All my life Democrats have been scared to do anything. Even when they had super majorities early in Obama’s presidency the only thing they did was pass the Republican healthcare plan. It’s so crazy that in 2012 Mitt Romney had to run against his own healthcare plan because it was the one Democrats passed.

Of course now the one time the establishment Dems did something right after months of being weak and playing it wrong they get credit for being weak. For months I’ve been trying to tell people that they should impeach and that not only would it not hurt them politically, but it would help them. And sure enough the moment they impeach suddenly impeachment becomes more popular. But instead of showing how that was proof that their fears were unwarranted, they instead think it’s proof that the strategy was right.

But in general it makes following politics a frustrating experience. You have one party, the Republicans, who opposes facts and evidence in order to benefit the rich and corporations yet manage to get their agenda through because they know how to play the game. Then you have the other party, the Democrats, who generally promote policy that would be beneficial and is in line with the evidence but are weak and ineffectual.

Being a liberal in the US is like being a Jets fan watching your team constantly bungling easy decisions while watching your rival Patriots win over and over again. Except instead of it being a football game it’s about matters that have huge impacts on people’s lives where the Republicans are causing a massive amount of harm.

Nasrani
Nasrani

I’m batting around the idea of running for office. I want to be part of the problem.

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Tony Sommer

My plan was actually to run for city council here in a couple months, but due to some circumstances outside of my control I decided to wait and run next time.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Though you’re a Democrat and I’m not (and as such our policies differ considerably, though I wouldn’t say I’m Republican either), I wish you luck in your race!

Personally I think we need to radically start again. Too many politicians have been in office for far too long. Time to drain the swamp and start over.

Tony Sommer

Thanks, on the city level it really doesn’t matter that much. I think every councilman in Independence is technically an independent.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Nice. All the same, though, best of luck to you! Who knows, it might be a springboard to something great.

Even if it’s only at the city level, I think everyone’s votes are affected by their own personal leanings; I’d like to think that even if I was on a school board mine would be (although my frenzied yelling of “Don’t invade [country]!”, “Rania for President!” and “No war in [region]!” during school board meetings would likely get me committed), so I think there’s a small degree of partisanism even in the mundane of city council meetings.

BleedingRedAndGold

A suggestion to those with political aspirations: Work on someone else’s campaign, first, to learn the rules of the game.

Tony Sommer

Yep, I’ve done that. It’s very eye opening.

BleedingRedAndGold

There may be no bigger waste of man-hours than an unsuccessful political campaign.

Nasrani
Nasrani

I think I have you beat…

Showing up at 4:30 AM for a post-wide half-mile run that we know won’t start until 9 AM (and will be over at 9:45 AM, yet we won’t be dismissed until 11 AM) might top that.

Though perhaps not, since you tend to lose a lot of money during political campaigns…

Team Player
Team Player

We waste more time before 9 am than most people waste all day

Tony Sommer

My guy did lose, but it was very close and still worth the effort IMO. At the very least I ended up with about 30 free pens out of it.

BleedingRedAndGold

Oh, I’m not casting shade at those ho fought the good fight and lost, that was more a matter of ‘the least efficient operating speed of a car is zero mph’ and ‘it can take a lot more people working on a campaign than most realize’.

Tony Sommer

My platform will be based on conquering Blue Springs in a hostile invasion.

Nasrani
Nasrani

If I’m in Jordan at the time, I’ll see if I can use my fancy-schmancy master’s degree in Arabic to get their support for you. Though you may have to defer your City Councilship to Queen Rania…

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But then, why wouldn’t you?

Team Player
Team Player

The vast majority of Americans are neither Republican nor Democrat. But we have abdicated our country to the extremes by not voting

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

And if every Amserican that felt that way voted 3rd party we would have real change

zulu trader
zulu trader

last election; independent all the way

first time ever in 40 years of voting

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

Im an openly libertarian sort. All I honestly want is for the LP to be allowed in the debates. If we are as crazy as the big 2 would like you to think, why are they scared to include a libertarian?

zulu trader
zulu trader

you can’t make sense like this and be accepted by the masses

And I don’t know why that is

hmills110
hmills110

Too many people whose self-interest leads them to do things that are against the interest of the masses. They make it all too big and powerful, and your livelihood might be snatched away from you because a senator wants to get invited to a party where she can meet Brad Pitt. Life-and-death decisions – too many of them – being made by people to whom we are mere abstractions. Numbers on a spreadsheet.

hmills110
hmills110

The Libertarians never nominate anybody with much charisma or much sense. You don’t have to violate Libertarian principles to be for stronger borders. Open borders are for when all the people OUTside your border are libertarian, TOO. Until that day, you need a barrier to the non-free madness.

hmills110
hmills110

Big fan of “can’t not.”

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

I think it is an ignorant assumption that Republicans are doing a massive amount of harm. I am one and we are not.

BleedingRedAndGold

I am of the opinion that the grass-roots of both parties focus ‘way too much on the opposition’s faults and flaws and practically none on their own. Voting third-party may be “wasting” my vote, but it’s better than shrugging and saying that I have to choose, red or blue.

hmills110
hmills110

I was proud to be a Republican when Newt Gingrich was still a young turk in the House of Representatives in the early ’80s. When they were the loyal opposition, they had some principles. But then in the ’90s, they sold out, became Democrats, essentially, when Newt Gingrich was swelling into the same kind of toad that Tip O’Neill was in the ’80s! Big spending? Not a problem. Want to go kill people abroad? Well, they are really bad people, don’tcha know?

Worst of all is the agreement by BOTH Republicans and Democrats on a violent, irresponsible, and ultimately self-defeating neoliberal foreign policy. And they ALL love weapons systems.

Our policies are based on the grim realities of 75 years ago! Terribly out of date.

Tony Sommer

It’s more the politicians than the voters. Judging from polls Republican voters are much more reasonable than the people they vote for.

Leaf
Leaf

Democrat politicians are no better. People need to wake the fuck up that it is not dems vs rep. Dems aren’t destroying the country and neither are the Reps. It’s this fucking war between the two and neither side even remotely willing to work with the other (this goes for politicians and voters).

Tony Sommer

Democratic politicians aren’t great, but they absolutely are better than Republicans. It’s hard to think of anything the Democrats do wrong that the Republicans don’t also do, but there are many things the Republicans do that the Democrats don’t.

Leaf
Leaf

Disagree. It isn’t that the dems don’t do it, it’s that they pretend that they don’t. Both sides are lying corrupt asshat that only have their own self interest at hand. The only real difference between the two sides is which pool of voters they have manipulated into thinking their side is morally superior to the other.

1wombat
1wombat

Lol, I guess you’re entitled to your opinion. This is America.

zulu trader
zulu trader

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hmills110
hmills110

Republicans run cities a LOT better than Democrats.

zulu trader
zulu trader

well, look who showed up to spew ridiculous-ness

jmgunn0124
jmgunn0124

Republicans are causing a massive amount of harm? Tell LA, SF, Detroit, Chicago, really any super liberal city. Ignorant take.

CHIEFSandSABRES
CHIEFSandSABRES

Albuquerque’s liberal policies. This town is an absolute dumpster fire of liberal filth. Schools have roofs falling in. Ranked near last in every category, but by golly they got needle drop boxes on every corner! Just heard about the hepatitis A outbreak sweeping through town now. Come for balloon fiesta, leave without your car, wallet, and with Hep A!
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zulu trader
zulu trader

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let’s talk about religion
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

zulu trader
zulu trader

now I know who my friends are . . .

pecora55
pecora55

Man, I’ve had some great times in the 505! Making me want to drive 6 hours, wake up at 4am to go to the ballon fiesta then go get an Allsups chimi then follow that up with a Lotaburger! Good times!

Leaf
Leaf

For months I’ve been trying to tell people that they should impeach

While not trumps biggest fan, name one thing that he’s done, outside this most recent issue, that would have had even a remote chance of removing trump from office?

Tony Sommer

The Meuller Report was more than enough to impeach him. His attorney is currently in prison for those activities.

Also him having government officials stay at his hotels (essentially funneling money to him) would also be more than sufficient grounds.

Leaf
Leaf

Lol, uhh no it wasn’t. People that think that are deluding themselves. Hell even this recent shenanigans might not be enough. Trump is an oily bastard. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he walks away from this unscathed.

Tony Sommer

There’s two different questions.

Has Trump committed acts that a normal, rational, unbiased person would agree is worthy of impeachment? Of course.

Will there actually be enough support in the Senate to get to the 67 votes required to actually kick him out? Maybe, but probably not.

BleedingRedAndGold

And could a normal, rational, unbiased person disagree with your conclusion? Of course. Clinton’s impeachment went through and fizzled, IIRC, or maybe just fizzled, but to impeach on political grounds is a dangerous precedent to set.

For those who wish to say “but this isn’t political”, save it. There have been people screaming for his impeachment since before he took office, on purely political grounds, and the cries have never truly stopped. Furthermore when balancing the risk/reward you are not going to get my interest with such a move when it’d shorten his term by maybe a year. The precedent’s risk amounts to far, far more than that.

Tony Sommer

No they couldn’t, because it’s too straight forward. There are really only two parts.

1 – Is asking a foreign government to investigate your political opponent a serious crime?

2 – Is committing a serious crime worthy of impeachment?

The answer to both are obvious yes, so the only conclusion is that Trump must be impeached. If you said no to 1, then you would have to justify why, if that isn’t a serious crime, then what is? If you said no to 2, then you would have to explain what would be worthy of impeachment if not committing serious crimes?

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

A pox on both your houses, i think the whole system is hopelessly broken and has been for decades.

For all my Democrat friends, if you are extra super giddy over the prospect of Trump being impeached and going to prison, keep this in mind–Mike Pence will be president. And his first act as president will be to pardon Donald Trump. We aint some 3rd world dictatorship. We dont imprison presidents. And if u hate Trump, you are REALLY gona hate Pence. Just sayin

zulu trader
zulu trader

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WTF_Chiefs
WTF_Chiefs

I have never voted straight ticket in my life and Trump would never have been a top choice of mine…….but your Mueller report was in no way enough to impeach Trump…..as a matter of fact, the whole Mueller investigation was brought about by a dossier that was finances by Trump’s political opponents paying a British ex intelligence officer to gather oppo research……If asking a foreign entity to investigate is a crime, McCains staff and then members of DNC should be in jail…….and as far as Trump’s attorney being in jail, he worked the same avenues of Podesta group headed by brother of Clinton presedential campaign chief Tony Podesta

When people wake up and see the real reason so many career politicians, both sides of the aisle, are after Trump is because he became President without being a lifelong politician himself and didn’t play by “the rules of the game” that they had spent lifetime having played by……This country will get to a place where it rids itself of establishment and can start to heal wounds and narrow the divides

BleedingRedAndGold

It isn’t that straightforward at all, and both your declared and demonstrated biases and your oversimplification of the matter are evidence of that. Biased people – and on this topic, you are one – cannot speak for what neutral people would conclude. As for the oversimplification it glosses over absolutely everything that would go against the “Impeachment Good” position.

And finally is your insistence that something must happen. No, it isn’t a “must”, save for partisan political purposes. And lest anyone think I’m enamored with Trump, I think he’s the worst president in my entire lifetime, but traditions of restraint are hard to replace, once destroyed. Bringing down probably the most ineffective of the bad presidents in our history isn’t worth it. Besides, the “outrages” of Trump aren’t originally his or even particularly new. He’s a blowhard, not someone truly thoughtful.

hmills110
hmills110

I think Trump’s been a surprisingly good president. He’s accomplished many things. And he’s shaken-up a VERY corrupt way of doing business in Washington, D.C. He wouldn’t’ve come within a mile of the presidency if people weren’t sick and tired of both parties’ bullshit.

hmills110
hmills110

Trump did nothing out of line. Zhelensky was an anti-corruption candidate and Trump is simply following the terms of the treaty Bill Clinton signed, in an effort to fight corruption.. Biden extorted the Ukrainians for monetary gain, de-railing corruption investigation’s into the company his son was making $50,000 a month from, with no training. Just a very important father who could strong-arm the Ukrainians to NOT investigate corruption.

Demokkkrats are just pissed because Ukrainian people were sick of the corruption oozing out of Washington. Those corrupt individuals were put in place by neoliberals in the U.S. government. They HATE that the Ukrainian people upset their VERY profitable apple cart.

Trump’s pure as the driven snow on this. Only a liar or a fool sees this any other way.

Spider
Spider

I’ll justify 1: Joe Biden, as VPOTUS, publicly bragged about committing said crime, thus there’s reasonable cause for the crime to be investigated.

Leaf
Leaf

Every impeachment has been on political grounds. The reunited south hated that a Southern man wasn’t giving them preferential treatment for reconstruction, so they rallied to impeach Johnson. The Reps of the 90’s only impeached Bill because he was a Dem. Most had mistresses themselves and have lied multiple times about it, so their argument against Clinton was hypocrisy at its finest. This thing with Trump, he’s right in that he’s done nothing the Dems themselves haven’t done, but the proceedings are happening because he’s not one of them.

hmills110
hmills110

Impeachments are always political. As with Watergate, the thing I found most offensive wasn’t necessarily the deed – although there were some pretty bad stories about Clinton floating around, and how his people covered for him – but that he lied. Unlike Nixon, who was lying about a petty partisan dirty-tricks operation, Clinton was lying about his sex life. Unless he FORCED Monica Lewinsky against her will, it’s just not a question that he should’ve been asked. Pretty chicken-shit on the part of Republicans.

The thing that bothered me most about the Clintons was how they enriched themselves at the public trough. Whitewatergate was pretty bad. It’s the kind of corruption that PERMEATES Washington, but which lawyer-legislators carefully make it legal to do or very hard to uncover. You don’t make 10 times your investment back on anything that’s on the up-and-up. No. The fix was in on Whitewater. And ever since, from the Clinton Foundation to speaking fees, they’ve been VORACIOUS about money.

hmills110
hmills110

I dunno, BRG. If people are still talking this same tired bullshit, and believe it, then the derangement is really too deep-seated to cure. All we can do is hope that we defeat the derangement at the ballot box in 2020. Anybody who sees Trump as the bad guy in most of what’s going on right now, is the victim of Fake News, AFAIC.

And there’s not much you or I can do about the delusion and resulting derangement. We just have to ride it out. Trump’s the first one to stand up to the cry-bullies, and the hate for him and the non-stop negative reporting (most of which turns out to be misleading or false) are what happens when you tell Jimmy that Johnny gets a turn on the swings, too.

And here, lately, the intensity has risen another notch, and the refutations are coming in hours, and the retractions are quietly made days later. But as they go from one breathless lie to the next, the idiots who swallow their bullshit are kept in a constantly agitated state, and believe a lot of the lies, because they never see the downplayed retractions.

I think they’re in an absolute frenzy, now, but the confidence of the public is draining away. A little more, every day. Conservative-leaning FOX is number 1 and frothing left-wing-establishment MSNBC and CNN are only staying on air because of billionaire backing (some of it foreign, iirc)l

Spider
Spider

Here’s the thing about those hotels: When traveling on government orders, one is only authorized up to the government rate. All the hotels know this and that is what they charge. It doesn’t matter if it’s a crackhead and lice infested Super 8, a bare-bones mood-infested on-base room, or a 5-Star resort; same price. Occasionally, one gets a room a couple dollars cheaper when the rate goes up and the hotel doesn’t catch it right away. If you’re not on base or if they don’t have room for the whole crew, you’re on the local economy. Those have been the rules for approximately forever. Most of the time crews prefer to stay off base because base lodging is generally terrible…for the same price. Frankly, it’s good stewardship to get the best deal since the price doesn’t vary. Nobody gives a single solitary shit about lining anyone else’s pockets. That whole “scandal” is a whole lot of nothing and the TDS bitching will only make things shitty for servicemen and women.

1wombat
1wombat

But only the Republican Party ignores facts. He said so.

hmills110
hmills110

This is a good time for some Joe Biden wisdom:

“Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.”

legal_kush
legal_kush

Didn’t the Lions defense also hold the AFC West favorite (every pre-season) LA Chargers to ten points, as well?

hmills110
hmills110

Yes. That pass rush is no joke. But one difference between this game and Philly is that Detroit can’t count on KC having as many drops as Philly had. Detroit’s got a good power pass-rush, so I don’t see KC setting up a ton of short, straight drops. Mahomes will have to move the pocket around, like Peyton Manning on the stretch play. Mahomes can play that game better than Manning ever could, because he can take advantage when the LBs discount his feet and drop back in coverage.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

To give you an idea about how long it has been since the Chiefs played in Detroit, that was the game where the NFL posted that extremely distasteful picture of JC on a cart after blowing his knee out.

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles

I’d guess the time before that was the Thanksgiving (‘97, I think) game. I saw Marcus Allen become the all-time rushing TD leader (at the time). Rode 2 hrs each way in the back of a covered pickup with no heater. I think it was about 20 degrees.

KCChef
KCChef

My Crystal Ball sez to Watch For “Watkins II – The Stompening ” … : )

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Watching these primetime college football games on ESPN makes me realize that Todd Blackledge is finally a thing of the past.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Someone showed me this movie the other day (part one and part two are both available on YouTube in their entirety), and I thought it was hilarious because it’s painfully true. I’m not getting a PhD but so much of this stuff is relatable.

BleedingRedAndGold

I’ve been getting my Science Saturday on:

Nasrani
Nasrani

I’ve been getting my Arabic summary/textbook comparison/critique on… now that that’s done, on to part two!

Nasrani
Nasrani

No idea why, but this song seems appropriate for the evening.

Tony Sommer

Watching Clemson-North Carolina, and even though Clemson will probably win, it shows how hard it is to go undefeated. The gap in talent between Clemson and UNC is bigger than any in the NFL, yet here they are in danger of losing anyway.

legal_kush
legal_kush

and UNC goes for two to secure the loss. Seeing a lot of that lately.

Tony Sommer

I don’t watch college much, but it makes sense if you’re the underdog.

legal_kush
legal_kush

Yes, in this case for sure. But a horrid play call imo. Then again, you hung with them for four quarters, so you’d still arguably have a chance going to OT. Even if you convert, they’re gonna get the ball with 45 seconds or so, I forget. But it was under a minute I think.