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In any already crowded WR room, should the Chiefs add Michael Crabtree? One NFL analyst thinks so.

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Patrick Mahomes’ foundation donates shoes at his prep alma mater in Texas | Chiefs Wire

“It’s a great testament of who (Patrick Mahomes) is,” Adam Cook, Whitehouse athletics director said to EastTexas.com. “We’re very grateful for what he’s done. One of the things we’ve talked about with our team is just having an attitude of gratitude. So many times we take for granted the things that we have in life. And for Patrick to do something like this for these kids, it says a lot about who he is, his character.”

3 numbers to target for Chiefs receiver Sammy Watkins in 2019 | Clutch Points

3. 14 Games Played

The best ability is availability. I’ll admit, that’s an overused saying, but I totally agree with it. Professional athletes make money to play sports. If they can’t play, then that impacts an athlete’s value. Watkins’ value seems to be dropping every season.

He started his career off on the right track, playing in all 16 games as a rookie. He hasn’t played in a full season since. With Hill’s 2019 season up in the air, the Chiefs and Mahomes will need their second option to be around for at least 14 games. Guys get banged up and it seems like a lot to ask Watkins for a full season, but he should be able to pull off 14 games.

So far, Watkins has only played in 14 games twice. There was his rookie season and 2017 when he appeared in 15 games with the Los Angeles Rams. The sixth-year wide receiver is capable of having somewhat healthy seasons. He just needs to make sure 2019 is one of those years.

Chiefs U, Defense 101: Five changes (besides the obvious) we could see on defense in 2019 | The Athletic

More downhill action for the linebackers

It’s no secret that Chiefs linebackers struggled for years in Sutton’s system, particularly in run defense. There’s been a great deal of talk about how many “keys” or reads linebackers needed to make before reacting to what was happening against the run. Every linebacker who has played in Kansas City the last five years besides Derrick Johnson struggled mightily with hesitation, and even he fell victim to it after his freakish athleticism faded.

Nowhere was this more obvious than Hitchens, who was a competent (if unspectacular) linebacker in Dallas and a solid run defender. In Kansas City, his play dropped significantly. Looking at the tape, there was a consistent issue of being a tick slow against the run.

Here, both Hitchens and Reggie Ragland seem to be reading the run rather than attacking a single gap. I’ve spoken with linebackers who have played in Sutton’s system, and what I was told was that assignments varied from snap to snap and at times Sutton ordered the linebackers to read the leverage of the defensive linemen in order to decide what gap to attack.

That sort of “read and react” sounds good in theory, but in real-time in the NFL a second of hesitation can be fatal. It allows blockers to reach gaps before defenders and runners to pick up momentum. The difference in beating a blocker to the hole can be the difference between a sizeable gain and a stuff.

The NFL’s best and worst offensive arsenals: Barnwell’s 32-1 ranking | ESPN

2. Kansas City Chiefs

2018 rank: No. 1 | 2017: No. 27

The narrowest of margins separates the Chiefs from the top spot. On paper, though 
Damien Williams looked fine as Kareem Hunt‘s replacement in December and January, it’s hard to believe that the former Dolphins backup and Carlos Hyde are an upgrade on Hunt and Spencer Ware, who were Kansas City’s two leading backs this time last season. Andy Reid should be able to draw up a bunch of receiving yardage for his backs on screens, but that’s more a function of Reid and Patrick Mahomes than it is these backs.

There’s also the likelihood that the Chiefs start the year without 
Tyreek Hill, who might be suspended by the NFL after the league completes an investigation into his alleged child abuse. If we assume Hill will be suspended for three games, there’s likely going to be a significant drop-off between the star wideout and rookie second-rounder Mecole Hardman. Fellow starting wideout Sammy Watkins is a perennial injury risk, with the former Bills standout missing 18 games over the past four seasons. Travis Kelce is on the short list for best tight end in football, but the chance that the Chiefs will have to replace their starting wideouts for eight to 10 starts with Hardman or Demarcus Robinson is enough to push them to No. 2 here.

Ranking the best 25-and-under Kansas City Chiefs players | Arrowhead Addict

3. CB Kendall Fuller (age: 24)

Acquired in a trade with the Chiefs after the conclusion of the 2017 season, cornerback Kendall Fuller had a decent outing with the team in his debut season with the Chiefs. Ranked as
 PFF’s #30th cornerback with a defensive grade of 72.4, Fuller did what he could to help ease the struggles of an ailing defense that just could not seem to find its footing.

With an almost entirely new defense from the staff, scheme and players, Fuller has a chance to dominate in the 2019 season. Fuller finished the season with 13 defended passes, 82 total tackles and 2 interceptions. He is ready to eat.

2019 NFL season: Finding homes for top remaining free agents | NFL.com

Michael Crabtree, WR, to the Kansas City Chiefs. Crabtree’s numbers continued to stagnate in 2018, as the veteran finished with less than 60 catches and 620 yards for the second consecutive season. Is the 32-year-old in physical decline, or was his drop-off a byproduct of the offensive adjustments the Ravens made to accommodate Lamar Jackson after the dual-threat quarterback took over in Baltimore? Crabtree’s numbers in the games Jackson started (13 catches on 24 targets for 135 yards and one score) marked the worst seven-game stretch to close a season in his career, while his numbers under Jackson’s predecessor, Joe Flacco (41 catches on 76 targets for 472 yards and two touchdowns), were comparatively healthy. That said, he was released by the Raiders and Ravens in consecutive offseasons, and receivers do tend to fall off rapidly, especially those who never had burning speed to start with. It would be logical for the Chiefs to take a flier on Crabtree, especially with Tyreek Hill‘s availability still up in the air.

Vendor hopes to deliver old Arrowhead seats to fans before end of Chiefs’ preseason | The Kansas City Star

Monday will be the proposal’s first introduction before the county legislature. Under normal circumstances it would be assigned to a committee and not come up for final passage until later this month. But to save on incurring any more storage charges, White is asking that the measure be approved right away. The vendor also wants quick approval so that seats can be marketed during the football season.

The seats will come with all brackets needed to attach them to a wall or stand on their own. The cost of shipping is also included in the final price, but the contract also calls for the vendors to find a site in town where buyers could pick them up.

2019 NFL triplets rankings: Saints, Chargers, Browns top the list | NFL.com

RANK: 5 – KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (121.5 pts)
Quarterback: 
Patrick Mahomes 
— Rank: 1st (One game: 2nd | 2019 prod.: 1st) 
Running back: Damien Williams — Rank: 28th 
Pass catcher: Travis Kelce — Rank: 8th 

Mahomes is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He can make every throw ( 
whether he’s looking or not), evade pressure using both his athleticism and intelligence and seemingly score at will. All that said, if I had one game I needed to win, the six-time Super Bowl-winning Brady is still my choice over the 2018 MVP. I fully expect 15 years from now to be taking the same uncompromising stance on Mahomes’ behalf against a younger league-changing superstar. With Rob Gronkowski retired, Kelce now becomes the premier size-speed-strength matchup nightmare in the NFL. It was a close call between Kelce and Tyreek Hill for the Chiefs‘ top pass-catcher in terms of sheer production, but Kelce is the choice in part due to the uncertainty around Hill’s availability in 2019, pending an ongoing league investigation into recent child abuse allegations. This trio is carried by Mahomes and Kelce, but don’t sleep on Williams. The sixth-year back acquitted himself well in a small sample size last year, scoring six total touchdowns and averaging 5.1 yards per carry. However, it’s difficult to distinguish how much of his 2018 success was the result of the Chiefs‘ potent offense vs. his unique ability, especially considering he totaled just 477 rushing yards in 58 games with the Dolphins.

Tyreek Hill’s former fiancee files court case to establish paternity of twins | The Kansas City Star

Crystal Espinal filed a petition in Johnson County Thursday seeking to prove that Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill is the father of her newborn twins and establish supervised parenting time for him and child support.

Filed in 
Johnson County District Court’s civil division, the petition states that the twins were born this month and reside with Espinal. They carry her last name, the court filing said.

The petition was filed to “determine the Respondent’s (Hill’s) paternity of the minor children, to confer and impose upon Respondent all the rights, privileges, duties and obligations accompanying the father/child relationship,” the petition said, “to determine custody and residency of the minor children, to establish an appropriate parenting time schedule and to establish appropriate child support.”

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tsv0728
tsv0728

Anyone have a link to the Q&A Nate Taylor is doing on the Athletic? I can’t find it on their site.

Mink Farmer
Mink Farmer

I’m late to the party, but man, the KC Star really is a heaping dumpster fire.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Sounds like an accurate description

zulu trader
zulu trader

Chiefs U, Defense 101: Five changes (besides the obvious) we could see on defense in 2019 | The Athletic

Here, both Hitchens and Reggie Ragland seem to be reading the run rather than attacking a single gap. I’ve spoken with linebackers who have played in Sutton’s system, and what I was told was that assignments varied from snap to snap and at times Sutton ordered the linebackers to read the leverage of the defensive linemen in order to decide what gap to attack.

That sort of “read and react” sounds good in theory, but in real-time in the NFL a second of hesitation can be fatal. It allows blockers to reach gaps before defenders and runners to pick up momentum. The difference in beating a blocker to the hole can be the difference between a sizeable gain and a stuff.

I can’t wait to see these linebackers in action this year! I love watching effective linebacker play. Both those guys are ready to prove that they are quality linebackers and with the new coaches and scheme they will have the opportunity to do so. And with all the improvements to the defense and new faces expected to produce big-time, don’t sleep on these two. Only 2 more weeks to wait

tsv0728
tsv0728

We watched DJ in Bob’s system. He was good. Made a few pro bowls. It’s hard for me to blame Bob for them sucking. I mean, I hope it’s true. Just doesn’t seem likely. I can see a scenario where Hitch is average. Rags is just bad. He will keep being bad.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Yes, but we know Bob’s system is good with HOFnor near HOF level players. Most systems are, it’s the guys who can make a system work with a few great players a few good and some decent players that make a good coordinator.

FYI ( not trying to be condescending here though I know it sounds like it) DJ is at least a near HOF level player for several he was one of the two or three best inside linebackers in the league. to me saying he played good in Bob’s system doesn’t say shit about Bob’s system. It says DJ was a stud.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Yeah, that’s fair. No system can make DJ look bad, but it can make a lot of guys look bad. Seems reasonable, and at the very least a sound base for optimism.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

To be honest I wasn’t a huge fan of the Spagnolo hiring, but it seems like we got some really good position coaches along with him. I decided to be optimistic until I have reason not to be.

BDChiefsFan

this is a very underrated point of Bob Sutton’s system.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

The thought of signing Crabtree makes me physically ill. Yuck.

BDChiefsFan

all for a superbowl.

ProfChesterTQ
ProfChesterTQ

“Patrick Mahomes’ foundation donates shoes at his prep alma mater in Texas”

Isn’t that an NCAA Violation? Mahomes just made an entire high school ineligible?

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QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Crabtree is a punk. A total Heada$$.
No thanks

Mitko

Doesn’t really fit our whole ” Speed Kills” Philosophy anyway

Mitko

If Reid wanted possession receivers we’d still have Alex Smith.

BigRed

KC Star is doubling down on their Tyreek B.S. Screw them. How did we end up with the absolute worst media in KC?

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

There are some that will never get over his past and because of that, they hold a bias against him. I know the rest of the fans of the NFL will hold to this logic as well.

Panzer85
Panzer85

And the fact that it’s exactly the past that now comes into question that destroys credibility. Why is it that the public seems to have more information than a professional (excuse me, “professional”) reporter?

Tony Sommer

My generous interpretation is that it’s an old school mentality.

Before the internet it wasn’t realistic to give the public the complete information. Imagine if this story was happening 30 years ago, a TV station couldn’t really play the entire 11 minutes on air. A newspaper couldn’t print an entire transcript. So they would have to make decisions on which bits were the most important.

Of course in modern times there’s no reason not to post the whole thing and let the public decide for themselves. But that old school way gave them a lot of power and made them very important, and it’s hard to give that kind of thing up. If they just posted the entire thing why would they need a professional journalist? They could hire some college kid to post it and write a short summary.

That being said, it’s inexcusable that they chose the portions that they did that were so deceptive.

Mitko

I played also the whole original audio from KCTV5 on the podcast. It’s extremely deceptive and misleading. Going back most of the conversation is Crystal talking. They cut every clip starting and ending with her, before Tyreek can respond . The only thing you really hear is Tyreek say, “Right?” and “You better be afraid of me too d -T”
They even bleeped out most of the pause, and dumb at the end of that to make it sound more threatening.
The sections between the audio make it worse by using words like disgusting, terrifying, horrible, and summarizing someone of the audio, “Tyreek then questions Crystals loyalty, but she reminds him that she’s covered for him before”

tsv0728
tsv0728

Yep…no way to excuse their cut. It was clearly intentionally malicious. You can come to whatever conclusion you want from the full audio, but KCTV5 is certainly at least one of the bad guys in this case.

NHChiefsfan
NHChiefsfan

Tyreek may want to consider a lawsuit against them for defamation of character. They clearly selectively edited in a manner that had malicious intent in order to make things sound worse against him.

Panzer85
Panzer85

I understand sensationalism of resources. They want to make even them most mundane source exciting to a reader. I want the facts of the news, but even I don’t want to have to read the ticker tape every time. The issue to me isn’t the available resources, but the fact you just said that it doesn’t take a professional journalist to write this stuff.

Tony Sommer

In theory being a journalist is a difficult job that has to be carefully done. They’re basically a detective, tasked with going out and finding information and connecting the dots to figure out what really happened.

But in this case it was pretty easy. Somebody gave them an audio recording and all they had to do was post it. But instead of just posting the entire clip they decided to selectively edit it to try and force a conclusion that the full audio doesn’t really show.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

Their use of the word facts is very interesting here as well. Up until the release of the full audio there has been little information released that could be considered or labeled as a fact in the first place.

Druful
Druful

When the entire recording was released, they and KCTV lost control of the narrative so the only option they have is to try and use their platform to try and get it back. Heralding the 2 minute clip as news and the entirety as not being worth reviewing is the only way to take that control back.

CWil03
CWil03

Don’t give them your clicks, by clicking on the article you are doing exactly what they want you to do.

SpfldChief777
SpfldChief777

Hypothetical, but let’s say he gets a slap on the wrist at most and he then balls out this year. I’m afraid that he will get to a point where he won’t want to stay in KC because of all of this, and I definitely wouldn’t blame him.

Leaf
Leaf

the national media might have just been repeating what the local guys reported, but they weren’t nice to hill. And KC fans were more likely to give hill the benefit of the doubt, which fans elsewhere were not.

tsv0728
tsv0728

They played it on one of the sports channels here in Denver. The hosts came to a similar conclusion as most of us. She is completely full of shit, and Reek will get a very minimal to no suspension. They even apologized to Donkey fans hoping for a major suspension lol.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

This is my fear.

Spider
Spider

Judges tend to require children remain in the state if not jurisdiction. If his kids remain here, he may be incentivized to remain as well in order to see them or maintain primary physical custody.

Mitko


This piece is really bad and infuriates me.

Leaf
Leaf

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workingmansdead

Oh wow, big media being smug and condescending? That’s really shocking.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater

Is the Star big media? Not sure delivering papers to 150 people over the age of 80 counts as big media.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Had to look it up. Apparently it was owned by the Knight Rider. Seriously. McClatchy, who operates a bunch of other papers apparently bought the Hoff. Definitely big media.

NHChiefsfan
NHChiefsfan

Looks like the KC Star is ready to bankrupt themselves. That’s the problem with hiring narcissists to run your “newspaper”.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

The Star is following the PFT model.

StramtoReid
StramtoReid

Actually I agree and disagree with the Kansas City Star, the full audio doesn’t change the facts on the child abuse case. The truth is, we don’t know who carried it to far with the spankings Hill or Crystal.

The new audio was recorded without Hill knowing, and he was claiming he didn’t hit or strangle Cystal in 2014. The new evidence gives an explanation on why Hill pleaded guilty in 2014, he didn’t trust the judicial system.

The Kansas City Star and the media’s opinion gives evidence that Hill made the right decision to plead guilty of domestic violence in 2014 and eventually have his record cleared. The Kansas City Star opinion show that a jury is most likely going to side with a woman in a domestic violence case, and it is harder for a black man to win a domestic violence case than a white man.

I have said this before, my problem with the audio recording is, it was made to try to destroy Hill’s life. Instead of the Kansas City Star admitting they made a mistake, they act like politicians in a scandal
1) admit nothing
2) deny everything
3) make accusations

The AG should boycott Kansas City Stars articles for 1 week in the morning huddles to protest inappropriate and unethical journalism.

workingmansdead

I think that’s the plan moving forward, at least for a while.

AG should boycott Kansas City Stars articles in the morning huddles to protest inappropriate and unethical journalism.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Good it needs to be done imo. There are better media outlets that will report with fact and try to vet their sources and possibly do a little research (though to be honest not many) that can be used.

kcfreak725
kcfreak725

This is why I don’t read opinion articles

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Now as fans of the truth we should all hit the star where it hurts and never again read or click on anything from them. Spitting out mostly disproved opinion as fact and saying that Hill should still be in trouble and not just a little based on piss poor speculation is just crap. Doubling down just to “protect” the shit reporting already done by the Star is even worse.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

At least they admit its an OPINION this time. But they dont get credit for it at this point. Its like they’re punting on 2nd & 6.

STL_Chiefs Fan
STL_Chiefs Fan

If you want to read it without giving The Star clicks, you can read it here.
https://outline.com/CXB3n4

tsv0728
tsv0728

Jesus..what a disgrace. They happily condescend anyone who feels like they learned anything from the full audio, while exalting themselves simply for failing to learn a single thing.

KC15
KC15

They don’t even bring up the fact they’ve determined the broken arm was an accident, She is secretly recording him, and trying to get him to admit to doing it. The whole reason the video exist is her trying to incriminate him for something he didn’t do. That’s why we think it’s possible she did the same thing back then. Can anyone name on time when tyreek was play football, a violent sport, and he lost his cool? I’m not going to say he is or isn’t innocent of what he did in 2014, but let’s look at the whole thing. We can clearly see that the star and kctv5 have each other’s backs here.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater

Seems like typical modern day journalism to me. Make your own opinion and then do your best to support that opinion. At all costs.

I don’t disagree that the full tape does not exonerate Hill. If he was innocent of the 2014 charges why has he publicly never said so? Because somebody told him it would just look bad? If so that person should of also told him not to get back together with the person who supposedly injured herself and testified against you, especially if she didn’t come out and exonerate him.

In the end, none of the conversation about 2014 really matters. It was before the NFL and the NFL never punished him for it. Can they take it into consideration with future discipline? Yes, but the key here is for him not to get into any more trouble. He probably gets suspended because his terrified quote which wasn’t as bad hearing the full audio with her badgering him about hurting his kid which he vehemently denies throughout the tape.

Key for Hill is to stay as far away from her as humanly possible. Obviously, the kids make that more difficult since he seems like the kind of man that wants to be a part of their lives, but I wouldn’t ever be alone with again while he’s playing in the NFL. He does that then either way he’s good. He can’t abuse her and/or she can’t lie about him.

I wish the Star and all the media would just lead their stories with the facts. Fact is there is no conclusive evidence that Hill abused his son or the mom since he’s been back with her. Worst thing they can prove is a threat made during a heated conversation.

Either way I’m still not buying his jersey.

BDChiefsFan

Now that the full audio has been released on the Hill saga, a question is emerging from the #ChiefsKingdom crowd, if Hill is did not choke Espinal in 2014, or punch her, why didn’t Hill claim so when he was drafted by the Chiefs? or why has he stayed quiet on the matter? /1

— Avik Khan (@BDChiefsFan) July 10, 2019

i tried to go through a thought exercise why Hill never proclaimed innocence.

Spider
Spider

If you’ve ever tried to fight a traffic ticket with science, it makes perfect sense why often the smartest move is to take the deal regardless of guilt.

ChiefsfaninOR
ChiefsfaninOR

W.R. Hearst would be so proud of you, KC Star.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

The Star is a real POS rag. They have fallen far. What is their problem with Tyreek? Why the bias? They always assume the worst. I used to subscribe online because I live far from KC to follow their Chiefs coverage but stopped after this whole thing with Brooke, now the editorial board etc. What a joke!

zulu trader
zulu trader

legal_kush

We put down our near 16 year old Black Lab, Sasha, today.
I dug the hole we laid her to rest in.
Tomorrow is the first day of my daughter’s life without her. So we get to spend the afternoon taking my mom from the hospital after 17 days from a stroke to assisted living.
Saturday, I’ll play golf.

be sure to acknowledge our brother , today

sydenham

LK: you’re in my thoughts, our thoughts. I usually find golf to be a getaway, hope it is for you too. Be strong.

Tony Sommer

Damn, I hope he enjoys the shit out of that day of golf. I’m sure he needs it.

legal_kush
legal_kush

Thank you all! I’m well; just exhausted.
For the dog — it was time. She went peacefully.
For my Mom, she’s actually recovering quite well for 87 years of age.
As for the golf, it is my peaceful retreat. Was once a passion, but as skills diminish with age, I find the experience more pleasurable even though the scoring is not so good anymore. Bad shots don’t bother me — I just get to hit more shots!
Cheers guys, it was not my intent to start a pity party. Just saying stuff “out loud” amongst friends helps.
Have a great day!
Oh yeah, tomorrow us also my birthday.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Happy early birthday man! You’ll be in my prayers for sure.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Happy birthday, enjoy the golf and hope the momentum in your life gets back to the good.

It seems like bad shit happens in chunks. I can tell you the end of last year and the beginning of this year was very harsh for me, but things have smoothed out and seem pretty damn good.

RoyalChiefHawks
RoyalChiefHawks

Tomorrow is also my birthday….so we’re pretty much twins! Also, sorry about your pup. We had to put down our 6 year old lab last Sept. after an unknown medical issue that she had to deal with for almost a year. It’s tough losing a member of your family no matter what species.

tsv0728
tsv0728

No pity party here brother. I’ve played golf for 20yrs. There is nothing peaceful about it for me. I’m glad you have learned to trick to really enjoying it! You’re never too old to eagle a short par 3, here’s hoping.

UPYRS
UPYRS

Nope To Crabtree, We Have Some Young Talent That We’d Have To Cut To Make Room, Pass On That Absurdity

CWil03
CWil03

CWil03
CWil03

CWil03
CWil03

CWil03
CWil03

This makes me wonder if Tyreek thinks it is possible the twins are not his and at this point in this whole crazy story that would just be the icing on the cake.

Tony Sommer

That’s exactly what he believes.

Tyrone

It also gives the perception that she may have been sleeping around, which even if he believes the kids are his, he may want to put that image of her out there.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

O shit wouldn’t that be something

Mitko

Anyone know if it’s filing for a child support requires scheduling Child Father visits?
If not, it would be odd for her to require them if this was a soley financial move.

tsv0728
tsv0728

She filed for full custody. That requires a support filing. In this case she asked for supervised visitation only for Reek apparently. Her lawyer would have had to give justification for that, but it isn’t really relevant to the support request. The request is likely just ammo to support her custody claim. Full custody would result in more support than partial custody, though we can’t say definitively that is her motivation, obviously.

Spider
Spider

Your terminology is off. There is full and joint custodies and those are broken down into physical and legal custodies which are independent of each other.

Spider
Spider

Oops. So is mine. It’s Sole, not Full.

Spider
Spider

Support and visitation are independent issues.

UPYRS
UPYRS

That Biatch Wants Nothing More Than A Free Arse Ride, Goes To SafeHome For Her Free Attorney By Playing The DV Card. 6 Dayz After Popping Out Two Little Money Makers She’s In Court With Her Hand Out. Can’t Wait For Karma To DV Her Lame Arse. Would Love To Have The DNA Results Come Back As…Not The Father. Tear UP That Meal Ticket

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

PhatAlex, that you?

sydenham

Tropical Storm Barry heading to the Gulf Coast, Mississippi River already at a high water level. Folks in New Orleans, Mississippi River Valley and along the coast: be safe, be smart, hope you’ll be okay.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

I drove out to KC weekend before last. The Tennessee, Ohio, Mississippi and Missouri rivers were as high or higher than I remember ever seeing. Remember the drought a few years back?

workingmansdead

The Ohio has been high for at least a month now.

sydenham

It has been the same along the Ottawa River Valley.

Dave B.
Dave B.

I think the KC Star website has AIDS. My computer always freezes up when I try to read anything.

Spider
Spider

So Espinal gave the twins her last name instead of Hill’s and immediately filed against Hill for paternity? Another cheap, but all too predictable tactic to maintain control of Hill and his money or squeeze him for a slightly larger check every month. She’s going to keep using those kids to torment him for the next 18 years.

3rdnlong
3rdnlong

All of this shows the sane, wholesome and mess-a voiding benefits of saving sex for marriage and only dating someone who would make a great life partner. If in doubt, seek the counsel of people who know you and only want what is best for you. Generally, this could be a parent (but anymore, even that’s not always the case).

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater

Or just wearing a rubber

(Not saying your approach is a bad, but maybe not for everyone)

Spider
Spider

It really has little to do with a certificate of marriage.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

Well put. I always tell people to read the 10 Commandments even if you are an avid atheist. You will notice if you use those as a life guide how trouble free your life would be. No one can completely live up to them of course, we are all sinners etc., but imagine how easy your life would be if you could.

Tyrone

Crabtree – He’ll no. We’ve already got too many receivers to choose from.

The Chiefs were far and away the best offense last season by DVOA, now Tyreek “maybe being suspended for 3 games” and we drop to 2? Ok.

Now to read some fan posts.

backbone313
backbone313

Crabtree brings zero backup emergency Special Teams support.

Mr Toub says bluntly no.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

If Uncle Dave can’t use em, dont sign em.

SDNativeinTX
SDNativeinTX