Chiefs Mandatory Minicamp, Day 1

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Coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs Day 1 of Minicamp.

The Kansas City Chiefs kick off their Mandatory Minicamp today as Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones’ status with the team remains the main focus of conversation, for one reason or another. While we likely won’t get resolution to either, we will undoubtedly hear plenty about the players who are in attendance.

Joining Hill and Jones as notable players who likely won’t be in attendance also note that all-world TE Travis Kelce is not expected to participate either, albeit due to recovering from an injury. As a side note, I would remind everyone that while these three players are the ones we most want more information on, we are very unlikely to receive it. We all know how Andy Reid feels about answering questions about players who aren’t here.

“Duffug you just ask me?”

Here is the full schedule for the week:

Media access begins shortly after 1:00pm AG Time, which is when the majority of information will start hitting the Twitterverse. We will try to have someone available to post those updates in the comments, however if you are following along please feel free to do so.

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upamtn

ok, so … I’m not at all happy about Jones not reporting for the MANDATORY whatever … look, I know the guy wants a new contract: he’s earned it, he deserves it, I get it, I really do … but DUDE! at least fly to KC and be ready to go, then walk in and talk and get the contract done and then go to work … just don’t act like a petulant child and stay at home when it’s a “mandatory camp”

I think staying away does a disservice to the team and his teammates and sends the wrong “message” … hell, if I was Veach I’d dock him more than “just” a daily fine, I’d make it a million here and a million there

but that’s just me

Tyrone
Tyrone

You wouldn’t last long as a GM doing that.

upamtn

just give me the chance …

Tyrone
Tyrone

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You’re hired!

MasterChief
MasterChief

I don’t really get how not being in a mandatory camp helps one get a larger contract. If anything, it just seems like it would make it harder. Isn’t there going to be a deal made anyways? Wouldn’t you want to be there getting ready with the rest of the guys? I don’t get it.

My ass would be there and my agent would be dealing with the contract negotiations.

Tyrone
Tyrone

It certainly puts more pressure on the team to get moving on negotiations.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Does it actually, though? (real question)

Tyrone
Tyrone

I think it does. I think the coaches and management care that one of their best players has skipped compulsory camp. I think they would then start to be concerned that he may skip some/all of training camp. If that happens, I think that would certainly hurt the defense, especially with it being a new scheme.

If management were planning to not negotiate, and let him play out his contract, they might now think they have to re-evaluate that.

MasterChief
MasterChief

That make a lot of sense but the whole thing seems weird to me. Then again, I’m terrible at business so what the hell do I know.

stjoechief
stjoechief

Pretty sure Jones is doing exactly what his agent advises him to do.

Snafu
Snafu

A deal should be made…unless he were to get seriously injured. That’s what keeps most of ’em out in situations like this. The risk is too great.

MasterChief
MasterChief

This I can understand. If you have a big contract looming and blow out your knee, the contract offer will dry up real fast.

Berserker
Berserker

Yeah, that’s the pure-business side of it. He’s outplayed his contract, and shows every indication of being able to continue to outplay his contract, so it’s sensible for him to minimize any risk of getting a contract that’s in-line with his performance.

tsv0728
tsv0728

No info out yet?

Berserker
Berserker

So, are the media not allowed to report starting line-ups, or perceived depth chart type stuff? That’s pretty much the only thing I’m curious about as far as these offseason workouts, and I haven’t seen any info about it at all.

tsv0728
tsv0728

I’m in Denver, and they certainly talk about these things re: Donkies on Denver sports talk.

Berserker
Berserker

Well, crap. Why do our sports reporters suck?

Anthony, get a press pass.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Chris Jones, don’t step on that field without a contract!

KCRowdy
KCRowdy

News Flash.. technically he is under contract.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Not the contract he deserves, and errybody knows.

Leaf
Leaf

Doesn’t matter. It’s not like Berry deserved the contract he had last year either but we were still on the hook to pay it because it was signed.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Exactly. Berry wasn’t on the contract he deserved, so he didn’t step on the field. Same Same

KCRowdy
KCRowdy

Understand where you are coming from, but he is under contract and with a new defensive scheme, coaches etc, IMHO he needs to be there. The contract will work itself out.

Druful
Druful

If it was important to the team, the extension would already be done and they wouldn’t be dicking around with it.

Sudden
Sudden

NFL.com just reported that the chiefs won’t start talking contract until Jones shows up

workingmansdead

Ultimatums always work out well for everyone involved.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy

IF he takes the LeVon Bell approach (which I understand he hung out with) it won’t work out well.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Bell is maling 13+ Million a year, with an $8 Million bonus, so we just have to disagree that it didn’t work out for him.

Jones would have to be crazy to show up to this camp. Would you risk losing $20+ Million because you’re being fined less than $100,000?
Hell no.
He’s a DL, not a QB. There isn’t too much for him to digest in the next 3 months.

Dave B.
Dave B.

vvet818
vvet818

the dreaded Day to day………

Berserker
Berserker

Childish BS.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Eh…it’s all just posturing. It’s the only way mgmt and labor know how to interact.

Kim Jong Pete
Kim Jong Pete

It’s almost like there’s a sh*t ton of money at stake!

Leaf
Leaf

Everyone wants to point the finger at Jones, and yes he makes the final decision, but it’s at the recommendation of his agent.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy

But what would it hurt for him to be there? New DC, scheme as I mentioned above.. the contract will work itself out IMHO.

Leaf
Leaf

Sure it would help. And he might want to be there. But I can assure you his agent is telling not to go, and is assuring him that this tactic will net them millions.

KCRowdy
KCRowdy

But who is ultimately in control? Chris or his agent? Key word you used “them”. Not bagging on you Leaf as I know what you are saying is true, but I don’t think it would hurt him or his chances of big money if he shows up to this.. it would show commitment and maybe I’m just naïve, but I think the Chiefs would reward.

Leaf
Leaf

I asked he makes the ultimate decision. My point was pointing out that he’s a young 20 year old being told to do something by a guy waving a golden carrot. Let’s not be too hard on the guy just yet.

tsv0728
tsv0728

“What would it hurt”….he has 50m dollars minimum on the line. If he fractures his femur on day 1 that number drops to essentially 0.

tsv0728
tsv0728

I point the finger directly at Clark and Veach. If you want one of the best players in the league to play for you, you are going to have to pay for his service. That said, I have no issues with this so far. It’s a negotiation that is still in process.

3rdnlong
3rdnlong

Good. Chris Jones should check out how much more likely he is to get injured in the season the more he stays away. Even on a rookie contract the guy still makes more than what a normal college graduate does.

Chris Jones should be having the mindset he had last year. Where he was here, hard at work and doing his utmost to be the best pass rusher in the league.

Grow up young man, finish your contact, and come to camp. This season play your heart out and then cash in. That means being a team player and learning the new schemes. Because right now, your selfish attitude is not making me want to take your side.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Not to be rude but……. This is a stupid ass take. Didn’t the Chiefs JUST dump JH on his ass rather than “finish their contract” with him? Why should players honor contracts if teams dont? Chris has a few years to earn generational wealth doing something only a few people in the world can do at his level. You want him to go risk his entire career to injury when he could potentially bank 50million dollars because he plays for the team you love? Who is the selfish one again?