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BleedingRedAndGold

Third shift’s on the prowl again. Hide or join the hunt, the choice is yours.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

How bout the Blues, bringing their super fan Laila with them to game 7. Hope they actually win the cup.

BleedingRedAndGold

I want the Blues to win, just so that I can say that they lost, St. Louis style.

legal_kush
legal_kush

How ’bout them Royals? Junis keeps his club in it, and after stranding six, O’Hearn turns and burns, and helps make the other pen the goat this time.

legal_kush
legal_kush

Just re-watched the eighth. This is the most fun bad Royals team in quite some time.

legal_kush
legal_kush

Ian Kennedy with the save. Worth every penny, amirite?

BleedingRedAndGold

No idea how to value a closer, so I won’t be hatin’ on the contract. Besides, with baseball being a game that can turn on a host of small inputs, all you can really do is pay a guy something corresponding with past performance and hope for the best.

BleedingRedAndGold

Well knock me over with a feather, but the Royals pulled off a late come-from-behind win. Of particular note, O’Hearn managed to end (I hope) a streak of really bad luck, with a solo homer and another hit. That’s the kind of win that a struggling team can build on.

Of course, it’s the Royals, so I won’t be holding my breath over that. OTOH, rather like the arrival of Rally Mantis, the rally that put them ahead featured a little boy dancing and having fun in the section directly behind home plate. I dub him Rally Kid, and demand that they provide free tix for him and an adult minder for down there, any time he can make it to the K. And even I’m not sure if I am joking or not.

Chief-Blinders-On

Lots of happenings in Chiefs land lately.

Especially the Hill, Kelce and Jones developments. Plus mini-camp and all the wonderful quotes put together in the mini-camp thread. Great stuff guys!

But overall, I got a good vibe about the Chiefs this year.

Tune into AG tomorrow morning for the Chris Jones version of Blinders On, Blinders Off.

Should be super fun!

BleedingRedAndGold

Having read the first, I look forward to reading the second one.

Chief-Blinders-On

It was very, very fun to write and I learned some stuff about Jones and writing along the way.

BleedingRedAndGold

Just remember that when it comes to typos, punctuation, occasionally grammar and especially homophones, I got your back. Trust me, they’re/their/there has been the sort of thing I can’t not notice. 😉

Chief-Blinders-On

Never be hesitant to correct me on blatant mistakes or subtle ones.

I’m here to get better!

BleedingRedAndGold

Like Patches O’Houlihan, just because I’m not a great writer myself doesn’t mean I don’t know how it works. Drop me a mail any time you’re inclined. I promise that I’m not contagious. 😉

Chief-Blinders-On

Thank you for that sentiment. Means a lot.

By the way

Can we message our AG profiles?

BleedingRedAndGold

Not sure what you’re asking, but if we have a a DM function here, nobody’s told me. Or did you mean something else?

Chief-Blinders-On

Yeah. If AG had a message system… I don’t know.

You can always DM me on Twitter.

Chief-Blinders-On

I meant ‘through our’

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

If you are a wrestling fan like myself, today is the 4 year anniversary of the passing of one of the greatest talkers in the business. RIP American Dream, your legacy lives through your two sons.

Chief-Blinders-On

Love Dusty Rhodes.

BleedingRedAndGold

For all that they’re behind,l Junis has so far only given up 2 runs on a couple solo shots and been pretty efficient with his pitch count. Once again the problem is the offense, which has only managed to get 2 hits through 4 innings.

BleedingRedAndGold

Aaaand another two base runners wasted. Gordo really chased on that 3rd strike, too. He ought to know better than that.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

Somebody needs to smack that Matt Derrick guy for calling Chris Jones a DE. If he is paid like a DE, it would probably add about five million dollars per year to his contract. He is a DT.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Thailand got shellacked by the US Women’s team. Alex Morgan scored five goals. Five. The final score wound up being 13-0.

That’s an insane score for international soccer, particularly on the World Cup stage.

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I was watching/following the game on (really terrible) coffee shop Wi-Fi while waiting to meet up with some friends, and as the match was coming to a close, the radio/playlist came around to this, possibly the most ironically appropriate timing ever:

In other news, Mrs. Nasrani’s Dr Pepper ribs were, as usual, fantastic.

Snafu
Snafu

Alex Morgan is pretty damn cute.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Yes, yes she is. Her and Christen Press (those eyes).

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Both ladies are pretty easy to cheer for, and unlike some pro athletes don’t seem to be disagreeable malcontents.

BleedingRedAndGold

She does have pretty eyes, if you mean the pictured girl, but she’s no Susanna Hoffs. MMMmmph!

Leaf
Leaf

13 goals is an absolute insane number. Half that would have still been an extremely embarrassing lose. Hell, Morgan’s 5 goals alone would have been embarrassing

Nasrani
Nasrani

Five goals by one individual is bonkers as well.

I can’t do that on FIFA when I’m trying, when I’ve set it on “easy,” and when I’m playing some nobody team like “at-Taa’uon” from Saudi Arabia (while using Barcelona) or playing someone like Faroe Islands on the World Cup edition.

Of course that may speak more to my FIFA skills (?) than the game itself…

Leaf
Leaf

Last FIFA I played was probably three years ago. I could do both (on easy). Though score 5 goals with one player would be a lot easier. Just always run a 3-4-1-2 or some other attacking style and you almost always get an odd man rush.

Mitko

Leaf
Leaf

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ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

The Blake Bortles effect folks. Hard to believe that the Jaguars were the only team to not allow a Mahomes passing TD last year.

Tony Sommer

But he did have a rushing TD.

Leaf
Leaf

Well technically the colts did too…or maybe it was just January cold.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

People are knocking them for celebrating every goal and how they ran up the score. One thing the US has that most countries don’t is a solid foundation for women’s soccer.

Tony Sommer

Chiefs are 4 point favorites week 1 against the Jaguars. That seems like a bit much, considering the home team typically gets 3 points, so Vegas is saying we’re 7 points better than them. I know they weren’t good last year, but Foles is a serious upgrade over Bortles, and I have them at 9-10 wins.

I won’t bet on the Jags though, just because I think the Chiefs will be ridiculously good if Hill plays. If Hill doesn’t play I’d say it should be more of a tossup or the Chiefs being a slight favorite.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

If things are equal on the field, it will come down to who is the HC and I am taking Big Red over any HC not named Darth Hoodie.

Tony Sommer

Yeah, but the Jags game will be one of our toughest next year.

Chief-Blinders-On

Is Foles going to have the same magic though?

That’s the question.

I think the Chiefs would’ve had a defensive advantage. But it’s a brand new KC defense.

Should be a great first test for non-Eagle Foles. And the new defense Chiefs.

I believe the Jags was the team Foles beat when he started for Smith, right?

Interesting dynamic.

Chiefs win. 33-19. In a way too early prediction.

Tony Sommer

The Chiefs will be the better team, but beating a good team on the road is always difficult.

Chief-Blinders-On

Mahomes has been itching to play since the AFC Championship game Tony.

I think he’ll have a little extra to prove. That’s unfortunate for the Jaguars.

It should be an excellent game. They lost Watts last year. Hopefully this year it’s injury free for both teams.

Tony Sommer

Yeah, I think we should be favored, but that’s a lot more than I was expecting, especially since we will probably be without Hill.

Chief-Blinders-On

Watkins is pretty good. Whichever receivers make it will be ready from a hard fought preseason battle.

Kelce should be good to go. The running back battle should shake out a quality unit.

And we have Mahomes chomping at the bit to get back on the gridiron.

I think the Chiefs got this with or without Tyreek.

BleedingRedAndGold

And if Hardman and Pringle can come on strong in the preseason, there’s a chance that the pass O could approach being as good as last year without Hill. The other stuff aside, I would really like to see what Reid can do with Hardman and Hill both on the field. That could make the nightmares we gave DCs last season into Nightmares on Elm Street for them this year.

That said, I don’t expect that the NFL’s gonna let Hill play the first game, regardless of whatever the findings turn out to be, and expect a 2-game PR suspension as the best case scenario. Because whatever some fans consider to be the NFL “doing the right thing” in a controversial situation, I have zero expectation that what they decide to do – not just with Hill, but with any player – it won’t be decided on a matter of “right vs. wrong”. Instead the decision, like the decisions of the past, will turn on PR expediency.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Andy’s teams always come out ready to play while most teams are still tying their shoelaces.

BleedingRedAndGold

Yeah, I remember the conventional wisdom on Reid early on, to the effect that his teams will always start slow. Easy to see how that prediction came out.

Tony Sommer

The Raiders will be on Hard Knocks. I’d say that’s good news for us.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

They wouldnt know a hard knock even if DJ made it.

Nasrani
Nasrani

I think 2011 would beg to differ:

Chief-Blinders-On

That’s going to be a show I can’t wait to not watch.

Tony Sommer

It’s actually one I’d want to watch. We’ll get to see the Raiders’ dysfunction up close and personal.

Chief-Blinders-On

Yeah but saying that isn’t as funny.

I always liked Mayock. I’m curious to see how that Raiders team comes together this year.

Beachbeard
Beachbeard

I am going to be 100% behind Hamp Cheevers to make it. I know nothing about him but that name needs to be in the league

MasterChief
MasterChief

Broke my heart when they cut Dee Liner. 🙁

Chief-Blinders-On

Echo.

mbkemp
mbkemp

If he can put on some weight he could be a great slot corner candidate

Tony Sommer

Apparently it wasn’t just the fans in the stadium who cheered Durant’s injury, but the fans outside in “Jurassic Park” and in many other places as well.

I admit a part of me is happy when an opposing player gets injured, but how dumb do you have to be to actively cheer when you know you’re on national television? At least pretend like you’re concerned.

Tony Sommer

Also, I hate this 2-2-1-1-1 schedule because there’s so many more off days than the 2-3-2.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

I didn’t see the injury but if I was in the stadium I probably would have been giving high fives and fist bumps to those around thinking he re-aggravated his original injury not knowing it was super serious.

I always hope for Tom Brady to sprain an ankle before we play him. I never wish a serious injury, just take him out of our game.

Tony Sommer

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

Knowing now that it is a torn achilles, it is a bad look. But in the moment they could have just thought his calf injury tightened back up.

I wouldn’t ever taunt an injured player while he is on the ground though.

Thanks for posting that though. I understand why it was a big part of sports radio today.

Mattl
Mattl

I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to cheer or root for an injury. I absolutely, positively LOVE football. And sure, it breaks my heart when the Chiefs lose. But for the life of me, I can’t imagine hoping for an injury to Tom Brady (or anyone), thinking that it would help our chance of winning. Same goes for cheering when a player is down (like Michael Irvin being taunted in Philly when he got hurt). I don’t care how much I like/dislike a player. Professional sports careers are so short; an injury to a player can cost them years off their career. That’s heartbreaking and nothing to root/cheer for.

I’ve really enjoyed watching Toronto’s playoff run this year. And while I know it was a select small group of fans cheering Durant’s injury, it was pretty darn disgusting.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Does “cheering for a meteor strike” (like when Pittsburgh plays New England or non-Chief AFC West teams play one another) put me on the same level of worthless degenerate-dom as applauding an injury?

Leaf
Leaf

No. I’ve wanted a spacetime continuum tear to make the two teams fighting for Lord Stanley’s cup disappear.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Is it my imagination or are we seeing more torn Achilles injuries of late in sports?

Tony Sommer

I don’t think so. Remember 2011 when the Chiefs had 3 ACL tears before week 3.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Yep, they lost Moeaki, Berry, and JC in consecutive weeks.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Probably almost as painful for the fans as it was for them. 🙁

Chief-Blinders-On

And rookie Gabe Miller I want to say.

That was a killer start to some really built up Chiefs hope from an exciting 2010 season.

I always will wonder what would have happened if Charlie Weis hadn’t left.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Probably not, but I have wondered if modern athletes are hitting the absolute limits of what the human body can take. A tendon or ligament can only take so much. At some point, running too fast and cutting too sharply is going to blow something out.

Nasrani
Nasrani

Stay classy, guy in the #33 jersey in the front row from 0:07 to 0:10.

Stay classy.

slackator
slackator

I look at it like this, I didnt shed a tear when Peyton or Brady got injured, Im not gonna shed a tear when BetaRat Bitch Snake gets injured as well. Sure I wont cheer for his injury but the only people I feel sorry for in this is NY because he may never go there now, where as before the injury Im pretty sure it was going to happen

Tony Sommer

Here’s my argument.

Using the Royals as an example, them winning the World Series is an event I’ll never forget. Going to a World Series game, watching the final game on TV, going to the parade. I, and millions of others, will cherish those memories forever. And I don’t even like baseball that much.

Now let’s say the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl against the Packers, and Aaron Rodgers tears his ACL on the first play. On the one hand, that dramatically increases our chances of winning and me personally getting to experience all those things that I’ll remember forever. On the other hand, Rodgers is a human being who got hurt, but at the end of the day he’ll eventually make a full recovery.

People say it’s just a game, but if injuries are so much more important than the game how can we justify following professional sports at all? Why are we putting their bodies on the line just for a game? Clearly it’s more than “just a game”.

That being said, even if you are happy about it, it’s still not a good idea to so openly celebrate it.

slackator
slackator

never celebrated it, just doesnt bother me when karma comes back and bites him on the ass. Also him accepting the player option and getting paid $31 million next year to rehab further makes me feel less sad about his injury. Also as for the Why are they putting their bodies on the line for just a game, millions and millions of dollars, or in the case of basketball hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars

Tony Sommer

Speaking of money, if it’s “just a game” they why are we spending hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on it? We spent more money on renovating the stadiums than we did on the streetcar.

slackator
slackator

well I cant speak for KC but if its like OKC the money spent on the team will have brought in far more money than an overhyped street car that less than a week of it being built runs empty but hey we got ourselves “green public transportation”

Tony Sommer

The streetcar gets 2 million riders per year, which is about the same as the Royals and Chiefs total attendance combined in 2018, yet we spent 3x as much on renovating the stadiums.

As for business, the businesses around the streetcar line absolutely love it, and have seen their business dramatically increase since it was built. Yet the area around the stadiums remains a deserted wasteland 50 years later.

I’m not even somebody who’s completely opposed to public financing of stadiums, but the streetcar has clearly provided more practical benefit than the stadiums have, especially for the cost.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

The state income tax players pay per year plus all the sales tax at the stadiums has probably already paid for the renovations.

BleedingRedAndGold

The question here is if the streetcars will ever be able to reliably pay for themselves. Public transportation seldom does, something that Clay Chastain could never quite manage to cover up with his light-rail schemes.

Would the businesses who “love” the streetcars care to subsidize them out of their increased revenue and not just a bit more in taxes, or do they just love a free lunch paid for by regular people?