Game of Thrones Farewell Thread

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The Arrowhead Guys open up a spoiler laden farewell thread to Game of Thrones.

Welcome to a special one-time only edition of Game of Thrones Tuesdays.

Yeah I know what you’re thinking. What the hell does Game of Thrones have to do with a Chiefs site? Well, plenty. GoT has arrows; the Chiefs play at Arrowhead. GoT has Seven Kingdoms; the Chiefs have #ChiefsKingdom. GoT has Samwell Tarly, a rotund genius; The Chiefs have Andy Reid. GoT has Drogon, the most powerful creature in the world; the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes. GoT has storylines that move faster than the speed of light; the Chiefs have Tyreek Hill. There, that ought to get some clicks out of even the most adamant of Thrones haters…

Or maybe I was going to just make an open thread with some GoT tweets for everyone to rant spoiler-free in and it turned into something a little bigger, so I decided to use it as such. I’ve given the world a day to catch up, so if you’ve made it this far and haven’t yet watched the grand finale, well…

But lets face it, if you haven’t seen the last episode (but plan to) and you clicked on this link anyways, you have absolutely no will-power in the first place and you will absolutely continue on reading this post. In fact, just go ahead and skip to the comments to complain about spoiling it for you now so we can all proceed to mercilessly mock and torment you.

Otherwise this is just a fun little post, I won’t get into “what I would have done different” because someone may want to do a fanpost on that subject soon. So I’ll save that for him. Either way, use this post to celebrate, complain, post memes, share theories, describe better endings and most importantly let us know if you’ve never watch a single minute of Game of Thrones. Are you ready?

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Nasrani
Nasrani

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MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7

Go sign the petition on change.org to get season 8 rewrittin haha; I did….m’fcker almost reached 1.5 million votes hahahahahah.

Spider
Spider

Game of Thrones? Never seen it. Is that some sort of game show where they play battleshits?

WaywerdSon
WaywerdSon

I was 99% sure Bran would be the ruler of the 7 kingdoms when we found out what Hodor meant. For it to be that important that Bran survive that a character lived his whole life for the sole purpose of keeping a door closed had to mean something

venturachief
venturachief

You mean like it meant something that Jon was a Targaryen? Wasn’t even mentioned in the final episode. What happened to all of the ravens that Varys dispatched?

Leaf
Leaf

They were Drogon’s lunch.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Thanks for this thread!!!

GoT was a damn good show, considering the scope of what it was, somewhere in the neighborhood of 35 2-hour movies. That’s an amazing accomplishment for a viewer much less all the people who made the show possible.

This season was highly compressed and could have been drawn out into another season easily, if not 2 more. It felt rushed.

Even with that said, I liked how it all ended up. Most of the people that deserved to be killed were killed and some of the good folks have happy endings (until the spin-offs start).

I still have to give the show an A+ overall for being what it was.

Leaf
Leaf

I don’t know about an A+. That implies they did nothing, or very little at the least, wrong. That’s not the case. They made tons of mistakes (especially down the stretch). Was it still an enjoyable show? Sure, but it’s not flawless.

MasterChief
MasterChief

Ok that’s certainly reasonable.

A

While not perfect, it’s more grand of a project than any of it’s peers, if there are any. On that kind of scale, I would put it at #1.

venturachief
venturachief

A+ for the 1st 7 seasons. B for season 8, except for the final episode that gets an F. What a disappointing final episode.

Leaf
Leaf

A+ for seasons 1-4. Solid B for season 5. C- for season 6. D+ for season 7. D- season 8. The great early seasons pull the craptastic writing of the last few up to respectability, and give the overall series a B.

venturachief
venturachief

You’re a tougher grader than me. I absolutely loved it all until season 8, and even then I was alright with it until the final episode. The final episode left a stank over the whole series which is really disappointing.

Leaf
Leaf

It’s possible I’m being a bit harsh, and maybe suffering from a negative recency bias, but I saw too many inconsistencies as they got father away from the books. To many contradictions and illogical events. Starting in season 6 they traded good story and character development for spectacle. To me it become obvious when they were forced to fill in the blanks.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Grey Worm deserved to die, and I would have liked to have seen Samwell at least wounded, preferably severely. Solid B-

venturachief
venturachief

Nope. He gets a kingdom.

tecmo_sb35
tecmo_sb35

The finale missed the most obvious joke. Sam brings in the book, Tyrion looks it over and comments “why isn’t it finished?”

venturachief
venturachief

Yes, the camp in the final episode was overwhelming. All that witty banter around the table. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

mgrafton
mgrafton

I wasn’t altogether displeased with the finale or Season 8 as a whole, but I feel like they focused WAY more on setting up the multiple spin-offs, prequels, etc. than resolving storylines. I would have much preferred more fulfilling death to Cersei, better handling of the Grey Worm/Dany/Jon plotline (although, Jon was destined to kill her as a semi-Azor Ahai) and how is everyone just suddenly okay with the North being independent? Didn’t the Iron Islands promise to help only if they could be independent too? Seemed awful convenient for the Ironborn to just serve under the new King while the North goes off and does their own thing.

I think the visuals of Season 8 were great, but it did feel rushed and sort of hollow at the end of it all. They could have done so many cool things as a plot twist at the end and leave viewers feeling a greater sense of satisfaction. Just my opinion.

venturachief
venturachief

Nothing that happened before made any difference in the finale.

twiggamortis
twiggamortis

Well, if they HAD to rush this last season so much, they shoulda done it like this:

Save Cerci for last episode, have them go down fighting instead. Battlement above throne room has an undamaged scorpion. Cerci to shoot drogon in a twist of fate that she unintentionally did something good for once, clips drogon wing, mad queen gets thrown off into throne room and gets impaled on the iron throne. Drogon goes into tailspin and clips battlement with scorpion, hurtling Cerci to the ground where she lands by Arya, shes barely alive but coherent as Arya gets her revenge by cutting off her face and taking it before slicing her throat.

Jamie lives and goes into a polygymous relationship with Brienne and Tormund, they get Riverrun and make Edemure their Court Jester.

Jon decides he doesnt want throne and tells Gendry youre a Baratheon, you deal with this shit pile.

Tyrion has had enough and he and Bronn decide to go on a ho-quest to visit every brothel in Dorne and than in Essos.

Grey Worm and unsullied die as Drogon lands on them as theyre killing the soldiers that were trying to surrrender.

Sansa falls in love with Lord Arryn, now that he is hot and on solids. They decide to take Kevin Lannister to the Eyrie to throw him from the Moon Door.

MasterChief
MasterChief

What happens to Bran?

venturachief
venturachief

They should have hired you…..would have been a huge improvement. As for Bran, he is burned by a massive Drogon shit.

twiggamortis
twiggamortis

Works for me! maybe he wargs into the Dragon turd and chokes to death on the poisoned ring Varys took off before Drogon burned and ate him? 😉

Armychiefj
Armychiefj

Way too much hate for this season. It was rushed, yes. That is true. But the main plot points in the finale actually make sense:
1. Dany becoming the mad queen has been telegraphed for years.
2. Jon’s most enduring character trait beyond “honor to the point of stupidity” is “not wanting power.” Getting to head back to the north with the wildlings is definitely what he wanted over having the throne.
3. Dragons are way smarter than dogs. Drogon melting the iron throne makes sense in a “f you all” kind of way
4. Bran is an evil MFer who manipulated himself into power via his omniscience without really doing anything useful. I honestly wonder if this has anything to do with night king touching him. Also he is the “Storyteller” so what author wouldn’t want to make him the king? The whole Tyrion speech for Bran was kind of self-aggrandizing for writers: “stories are what unite us”

Also remember that the end of ASOIAF is supposed to be reminiscent of and a reaction to LOTR. There are plenty of parallels there as well, so anyone hoping for a massively different ending for the main characters in the books is likely going to be disappointed again.

Leaf
Leaf

Like you, I don’t hate the main points, it’s more the execution. I don’t necessarily agree that Dany the Mad was telegraphed. It’s supported, sure, but so are many other theories that never come to past. I do agree that Dany being the ultimate villain does makes sense. but the way they did it in the show was way out of character. Jon riding off into the sunset was about the only real way to end his character properly. It’s very Frodoesque. As for Bran, he’s really the most mishandled character in the series. He’s talked about like he’s something special (Three Eyed Raven) but does nothing of import. They practically ignore the guy for years, instead of developing him and his abilities, and all of a sudden he’s the most important person in the kingdom? It’s possible he manipulated everything to gain power, but why?

stjoechief

The time pressure was the biggest problem. There was enough that had to happen over the last two seasons (13 episodes total) to span three 10 episode seasons. That’s a lot of compression. Putting that aside because everyone knew it was going to be an issue, the one moment they totally screwed up was when Dany made the decision to burn King’s Landing. One better suggestion I’ve seen is running some quotes going back and forth to show the conflict in her mind: “When a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin”–Varys. “You have a gentle heart”–Jorah. “Burn them all”–Aerys II. “Children are not their parents”–Tyrion. “Be a dragon.”–Olenna Tyrell. “Do you want to wake the dragon?”–Viserys. “Dracarys!”–Missandei.

Leaf
Leaf

Even running the quotes wouldn’t have fix anything. It didn’t take a genius to tell that see was struggling with the decision before she made it. The problem is the snap happening like that isn’t very realistic to her character. She’s killed “evil” people, often in a ruthless manor. She didn’t kill innocent people. They tried to explain that issue away by having Tyrion and Dany herself saying that she was the only person that could determine who was right or wrong. The problem is that nothing the people of KL did would justify someone thinking the did something wrong. A more realistic “snap” for her would have been for her to say “fuck you and your surrender” and burned the army and the keep but left the city alone. That fits her character as well as shows her falling victim to get darkest impulses.

Chickennpickles
Chickennpickles

I think people aren’t understanding Bran’s “Why do you think I came all this way” line. I don’t believe he manipulates it all, simply that, once Jon killed Dany & everyone was going there, he figured with the people available, it was likely (50/60%) he’d be chosen. Sansa can’t do it. Jon can’t. Most of the rest, besides Edmure, are brand new lords because the old ones died fighting the Nights King. New guy in Dorne. No one would probably want Tara. It’s not hard for him to realize he’s one of 2 or 3 people who’d be in line for it. I think that what the line means. Basically it’s “I wouldn’t have dragged my ass all this way, just to say no if it was offered to me.” Not, I’m an evil genius who sees the future. There has been nothing to show that he can see more than the smallest flashes of future events. The past & present are what he can do. That’s a powerful skill for a king. You can’t lie to him & he’ll always have a hand up in negotiations.

venturachief
venturachief

Except he didn’t speak and didn’t communicate. He didn’t do anything. How would anyone know what kind of ruler he would be?

tsv0728
tsv0728

Also bran said plainly. “I do not want” that is the worst king ever. If you dont give a shit about the kingdom (i.e. want it to flourish) how are any good for it?

vvet818
vvet818

GOT…….
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1wombat
1wombat

Creepy Bran Stark. Seriously???

CHIEFSandSABRES

4thQtrMagic
4thQtrMagic

A well written ending with a plot twist no one could guess, would have put this series as one of the greatest ever. But wow, seemed like a sitcom writer was hired for this farewell. Straight forward and hurried. Unlike the rest of the series. Quite frankly, it was boring.

And what was up with the dragon? Seemingly a creature with dog intelligence choosing to melt the iron throne out of anger? Was it sending a message? “You killed my queen, but I can’t kill you because your a Targaryen. So I am going to melt this throne, because its evil and men will do anything including kill their siblings (who they had sex with) for it. ” Really? A Dragon with a moral compass, that’s guiding the human race.

What happened to Arya’s white horse? She walked out of the ruins.

I bet I know what happened….Disney purchased GOT and ruined it like Star wars? Or Bob Saget took over directing? Shit, Alan Thicke is probably rolling over right now. (I am not sure what that means, ask the dragon)

Dave

Also, this:

John Hughes makes everything better

CHIEFSandSABRES

That was great!

Dave

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I am more disappointed by GOT Season 8 than i was by the 2-14 Chiefs.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I wish i could just erase Season 8 entirely. The more I think about how powerful Bran is, the more I hate the ending. Bran could have manipulated all of them to become king. Also, very hard for me to believe they’d elect a cripple in their military power centric culture.

I knew something was off in Episode 1 when they said Sansa was the smartest character. Excuse me?

The way they killed Night King was beyond stupid. Arya just jumps, screaming out of nowhere. He’s fast enough to catch her, fast enough to throw a javelin 1,000 yards, but not fast enough to knock away a falling dagger. He’s strong enough to be fine falling immediately after falling thousands of feet to earth, but a 100 pound girl with her feet off the ground, holding onto air, gets enough thrust to fatally stab a 1,000 year old king too dumb to wear chain mail. Ok.

Why can’t Jon be King? Robert killed Rhaegar and took the throne. Who had even declared Dani the Queen yet? Herself? Why was she unguarded? Why is the guy with a claim to the throne allowed to walk around armed? Why even tell anyone she is dead? Why would they believe him? Why did Dani deserve to die for her war crimes while Grey Worm gets to profit and leave?

Sansa just declares independence, Dorn and the Iron Islands are fine with it. Huh?

The Wall is still manned in case of what?

Dave

If you guys liked GoT, you’ll love “Its Bruno”. Another show about a boy and his dog.

Gersidi76
Gersidi76

Or how about the movie “a boy and his dog”. I mean seriously, a teenage Don Johnson who roams a post apocalyptic wasteland with his telepathic dog in search of women to have sex with, and eventually eat.

Mitko

Tony ended up on the iron throne? Now I see why everyone was so pissed

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

Nah Tony made his own kingdom. With Blackjack. And Hookers.

starry1

Is there lots of blackened meat in this kingdom? If so, how do I apply for citizenship and can I have a duchy?

jf
jf

pass the duchy ‘pon the left-hand side

starry1

Gimme that too. I want my duchy to be located in Colorado.

tsv0728
tsv0728

Seems like some of the cast is getting awfully touchy. Perhaps they don’t recall that the entire reason they got paid was to entertain their audience. When said audience is unhappy with the product, does it not seem appropriate to voice their displeasure. Besides no one is even complaining about the acting, just the writing/pace. Don’t worry Kit, if chunky monkey ever gets around to writing a decently fleshed out ending, those of us that read it will imagine you as Jon Snow, with a bit more range.

BDChiefsFan

i think the cast is taking the criticism as a slight of their acting chops. except.. majority of the people are angry at D&D. it was quite apparent D&D are in a awful hurry to go make Star Wars.

CHIEFSandSABRES

The biggest disappointment for me wasn’t how the characters died off, just how the storylines didn’t actually end. Season after season Dany set out to free the “world” well they don’t actually even know where the entire world is and where it ends. Grey Worm shoulda died in my opinion. I thought Jon and him were gunna have to battle it out, but apparently not. Maybe they are hoping for some storylines to carry on, and spin offs, but the ending left a lot to be desired. Still wasn’t as bad as the Sopranos ending.

BoJest
BoJest

They have 4 spin-offs in the plan. The prequel is the only one in the works at this time. My guess is Arya will be one at some point and the only one I think that would be any good.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Yeah hers would be worth the watch.