Morning Huddle – With Chiefs still in need of a cornerback upgrade, is Patrick Peterson the answer, even after suspension?

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Among the Chiefs news today, we look at an article from Seth Keysor and Nate Taylor of The Athletic to determine: Is Patrick Peterson still worth trading for?

Chiefs news for 18 May 2019

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Chiefs hosted free agent OT Dieugot Joseph on a visit | Chiefs Wire

According to Houston Chronicle writer Aaron Wilson, the Chiefs hosted free agent offensive tackle Diegot Joseph for a visit on Thursday. Joseph entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent out of Florida International during the 2017 season. He’s spent time with the Bears, Ravens, Vikings and most recently the New York Jets.

Joseph spent the 2018 season with the Jets on the practice squad. Following the 2018 season he signed a reserve/future deal with the team. He was waived from the Jets earlier in may in order to place a waiver claim on another player.

At 6-6 and nearly 300 pounds, Joseph has the look of a swing tackle in the NFL. The Chiefs seem to still be working to hammer down that position with this offensive line group. There are a few different players vying for the spot including Ryan Hunter, Justin Senior, Dino Boyd, Pace Murphy and Zack Golditch.

Eric Berry and Justin Houston uniform numbers already claimed by new Chiefs | Arrowhead Addict

Every Sunday for the last several years, Chiefs Kingdom is used to identifying and cheering for favorite defenders like No. 50 Justin Houston and No. 29 Eric Berry. This offseason, however, the defensive renovation forced out both players via release along with numerous other starters who have been released or traded. Neither move was a major shock given the financials involved but it was still weird to see Berry taking a free agent visit to Dallas (he remains unsigned) and Houston sign with the Indianapolis Colts.

Now it’s another level of odd to see that cornerback 
Kendall Fuller has been given Berry’s old number. Fuller’s old number in Washington was No. 29, so it makes sense that he would want to switch back when given the chance. As for Houston’s old number, it fell to the newest member of the team, linebacker Darron Lee. The former Jets linebacker was acquired earlier this week for a sixth round draft choice.

Dwayne Bowe retirement video revealed Chiefs’ current offensive starters | Chiefs Wire

There are three important depth chart related observations in this video. First up is the starter at the left guard position. Currently it’s Andrew Wylie, who started at right guard in place of Laurent Duvernay-Tardif in 2018. Last season the starter at left guard was Cameron Erving, who the Chiefs signed to a contract extension. It’s not clear why Wylie is lining up with the starters, but this is something to monitor during OTAs.

Additionally, Austin Reiter is the Chiefs’ starting center, which is expected after he signed a contract extension. The question here is whether he’s earned that role as a starter or if he’ll receive competition for the job from seventh-round draft pick Nick Allegretti. OTAs will be a good time to monitor this situation.

Kansas City Chiefs could soon be Super Bowl champions again | Pro Football Network

That disappointment turned to hope in 1993 when GM Carl Peterson added future Hall of Famers Joe Montana at quarterback and Marcus Allen at the running back position. That year was also when the playoff ghost first decided to haunt the Chiefs. In what was a magical year that featured a comeback overtime win against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Wild Card game, and a second comeback win against the heavily favored Houston Oilers in the Divisional round, the season ended in heartbreak. Montana was injured in the AFC Championship game, and the Chiefs lost 30-13 to the Buffalo Bills.

While the Chiefs Kingdom is validated in its pessimism of the playoffs and the lack of its team success, it should also be optimistic. You see this isn’t an article about the disappointment of the same old story, but rather a piece to give you hope that a new story is being written right before your eyes. Hope that
 Patrick Mahomes can finish, where Montana left off. And from the magical run they had last season, it looks like he is well on his way.

The RPO and the Andy Reid coaching tree | PFF

Reid and the Chiefs also went with an intriguing pick at 56th overall, where they selected Georgia wideout, Mecole Hardman. The 5’10” return specialist is an absolute speedster — he recorded a 4.33 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine and has all the attributes to become an Andy Reid prodigy. Georgia hasn’t been buying as much into the RPO hype and only had 30 pass attempts out of an RPO in 2018, but out of those 30 attempts, Hardman saw 16 of targets and recorded a 76.6 receiving grade and 9.5 yards after the catch per reception.

As mentioned, Reid is one of the league’s biggest RPO advocates, and he has sold his former offensive assistants on the play as well. 
Philadelphia Eagleshead coach Doug Pederson served on Reid’s staff in Kansas City from 2013 to 2015, and when he left the Chiefs for Philly in 2016, he took Reid’s beloved play with him.

With Chiefs still in need of a cornerback upgrade, is Patrick Peterson the answer, even after suspension? | The Athletic

The Chiefs would, in theory, be able to trade for Peterson and have him learn the scheme. This would be aided by the fact that the Chiefs’ secondary coach, Dave Merritt, coached Peterson last season in Arizona. He would then have to sit out his suspension and would be back on the field for the final 10 games and the playoffs, the time the Chiefs need him most.

The same logic that applies to Peterson applies to other high-level cornerbacks who are rumored to be potentially available: Ramsey and Rhodes. However, neither of those players have actively requested for a trade like Peterson did last season, and neither are facing a suspension that lowers their value to their team. Finally, both of those corners play for teams that seem to believe they have Super Bowl aspirations, which makes the trade of a high-level cornerback significantly less likely. Chris Harris Jr. is another name to throw in the mix, but the likelihood of Broncos GM John Elway trading to the Chiefs is quite low.

Demarcus Robinson, Gehrig Dieter and a Handful of Other Chiefs Help Local Kids Plant a Community Garden | The Mothership

The Chiefs have partnered with KCCG in each of the past six years, sowing the seeds of a relationship that continued on Thursday.

“The fourth-graders here at this school help take care of these six raised beds – they incorporate it into their classroom and their community – so it was pretty exciting having the players here,” said Hannah Ebling-Artz, Kansas City Community Gardens’ Schoolyard Gardens Program Director. “These kids talk about the players all the time and actually toured the stadium last fall, so it was so much fun having them here. The kids couldn’t believe it.”

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upamtn

happy Saturday, people

sydenham
sydenham

Thanks and back at ya. Now if we all had a comfort dog like that vet’s then things would be better. As it is, AG is a good surrogate.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Sophomore QBWINZ Prediction based on 2018 casual observation:

Jackson 9
Allen 8
Darnold 7
Baker 6
Rosen 3

zulu trader
zulu trader

I think you need to change that lantern you’re carrying around to halogen

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

I think you are overestimating Jackson and underestimating Mayfield and Darnold.

While I don’t think Gase is a great head coach he seems to get more out of his qbs than their talent level warrants. Darnold is a talented prospect.

Also I would love the Browns to be a dumpster fire, but I see them at 11 wins this year.

zulu trader
zulu trader

2 days to OTA’s yeaaaaa

Anthony Stratton

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Snafu
Snafu

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Beef jerky time.

stjoechief
stjoechief

I think the Chiefs (rightly or wrongly) are going to be gun shy about acquiring any player who is facing disciplinary action from the league. PP is a different situation than Hunt or Hill but I don’t see them trading for him at this point.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I sure would like to know if PP was intentionally juicing, or he absent mindedly messed up and took too much insulin or some other accidental violation.

I hope it was intentional. I don’t want clueless guys like Dee Ford on this Defense.

Anthony Stratton

From what I understand he tried to mask the test…so he knew he was doing something. The suspension is longer than expected because they tack on more games for trying to cheat a test.

Anthony Stratton

Ummm…have you seen the track records on the guys they’ve been trading for?

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Fuller is a smart guy. With Frank Clark, you may have a point.

Anthony Stratton

…Darron Lee?

stjoechief
stjoechief

Clark has history but there’s no indication at this point that he’s done anything recently to warrant league action. Still a risk but not an imminent problem

Warpath
Warpath

The article from PFN is full on sunshine pump, however, it is full of interesting facts and stats.

Maw423
Maw423

Do you think the suspension would drop the price enough on Petersen? And will the Cards take the lower price?

MasterBlaster7
MasterBlaster7

A 3rd and a 5th is the price that I would like…I would also do a 3rd and a 4th if we were squeezed.

If there were other teams in the mix driving up the price, I would definately consider our 2nd….but I would highly prefer to keep our second….but win now mode.

backbone313
backbone313

Bowe-Show

1st pass Mahomes ever throws to DBowe hits him in the numbers in the endzone.

DBowe be like… wish that was my QB! He be like… this QB actually throws it into the endzone, in rhythm, on time AND in the numbers? Who knew QBs could do that… ya know make NFL throws 🤔

*Browns fans went bonkers over the highlight of Mayfield throwing behind Beckem on Twitt.

KCChef
KCChef

( Ducks out before PAM Sounds Off … : )

Anthony Stratton

Not really an Alex-thing IMO.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Mahomes threw 2 4th Quarter TDs in the AFC Championship. It was his 2nd Playoff game.

A QB from Utah threw 1 4th Quarter TD in 7 Playoff games. His career began when Patrick Mahomes was 9 years old.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

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Chiefs4322
Chiefs4322

so what appears to be a generational talent vs a middle of the pack NFL starter is supposed to mean something? Who says Mahomes isnt better than Smith? And for that matter I wonder why we didnt start Mahomes over Smith from the beginning when Smith got here? Smiths problem was as much a group of fans who can see nothing between black or white. Flame away….

StramtoReid
StramtoReid

Dude,
Move on from your resentment towards Alex
Only a few QB could complete some of the throws Mahomes makes. I don’t think there is one person on the AG who thinks Alex is better than Mahomes. I believe it is bad form to constantly criticize a player, who was the ultimate professional and a phenomenal teammate.

If Alex scored 31 points in the second half against the Pat’s and still lost, the Alex haters would say we lost because Alex sucked the 1st half. I don’t wake up every day and say, it was awesome having Alex as a QB , because I don’t live in the past. When are you Alex haters going to move on.

For the record, it was pretty awesome having Alex as a QB and he will always be one of my favorite Chiefs.

upamtn

wreck’d HARD!

the AS11 haters can stuff it … and as awesome as Mahomes is, he apparently isn’t awesome enough yet (obviously, as KC would have defeated the Pats in the AFCCG if he was all that)

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Bowe’s QB’s were Huard, Thigpen, Cassel….primarily.

Not sure how/why Smith got in this thread, other than for attention

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

Smith was Bowe’s QB 2013 & 2014. Two years puts him right there with the other players mentioned.