AG Round Table: Seeking Height and Hands

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Following Dan’s review of Cody Thompson and Jamal Custis the Arrowhead Guys sit down to discuss big-bodied wide receivers in Andy Reid’s offense.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: I’ve seen one game of Thompson’s and I like him way better than Custis…

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: Strange the Chiefs put such a priority on Custis.

Tyler Macoubrie (tgmacoubrie@gmail.com)

Tyler: They’re gonna play him at CB…

/dons tin foil hat

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: I’m not sure, they must see something I don’t. It’s not like I hate him, I just don’t think he can get separation, lacks consistent burst, runs lazy routes…

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: Oh then he definitely makes the team. Kelvin Benjamin replacement.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: I feel like they want to utilize taller receivers but they can’t find one that runs routes very well. They didn’t use the only thing Conley was actually good for so I’m not sure.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: I think it makes sense. A tall WR with hands would be another dangerous addition to go after jump balls in the back of the endzone. Basically what we all hoped from Benjamin.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: It’s not Reid’s type though and they didn’t use Benjamin properly either. He doesn’t fit this offense, but I think we might start to see a shift in Andy’s offense, especially if Hill isn’t on the team. They need to utilize more back shoulder, fade, and jump balls with bigger athletic guys to have a more unpredictable route tree in my opinion.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: I think it is Reid’s type, as he has tried to have a tall WR on the roster almost every year, they just haven’t developed or produced.  Even going back to Philly he seldom was without a WR who wasn’t 6’2+ who could move the chains.  

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: They haven’t had a good one in a long time.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: No they haven’t had a good one in a long time, but they’ve been trying to find that guy though. Bowe, Avant, Conley, Robinson…Yeah he likes the small speed guys to blow the doors off the defense, but a short yardage possession WR is something I think we’ve been sorely lacking to help with the clock eating drives that we’ve struggled with.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: Agreeeeed.

trelyday03@gmail.com

Tre: We have a big receiver. His name is Travis Kelce.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: Not the kind I’m talking about. They need more athletic WR’s that are 6-2 and above.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: Good point Tre, but I think Andy wants 2 big targets.  Its funny a few years ago everyone thought the evolution of the NFL was going to be the two-TE sets…and now here we are in a world where there’s barely 15 quality TE1’s in the league…

trelyday03@gmail.com

Tre: But bigger WR’s are contrarian now a days because the league is getting faster.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: Those WR’s are also getting faster.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: I don’t know. List the top 10 WR’s in the league, most of them are over 6′.

trelyday03@gmail.com

Tre: But it’s easier to find aMecole Hardman than a DK…

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: No it’s not lol.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: Its really easy to find a tall guy who can’t cut…Sign me.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: Hardman ran sub-4.3 if you discount the stumble. Was timed faster than his 4.33. Sub-4.3 guys are hard to find.

trelyday03@gmail.com

Tre: Hardman also runs track.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: That’s not what you argued. DK and Hardman are rare types. Hardman, assuming he develops and the same as DK. Both can be very unique WR’s.

Anthony S (ta2tony21@gmail.com)

Anthony: I’m not even worried about elite speed from a tall WR.  A 4.4 to 4.5 is perfectly fine as long as he knows how to run routes and use his length to shield the ball from defenders.  But hands?  He’s gotta have hands.

Dan Harms (f16mech.dh@gmail.com)

Dan: Yeah that’s what want too. High point specialist with route running. I’m sold.

Weigh in with your thoughts on the need for a tall wide receiver in the Chiefs offense.

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ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I saw a clip of Thompson catching a TD even with the goal post, that’s tall enough for me.

Why the Chiefs didn’t throw jump balls to Conley in the endzone is something I don’t understand. Didn’t Conley have a 40 inch vertical?

KCChef
KCChef

OT : Another pecadillo of Reid’s is to not use Sherman in the more traditional “Power “I” for short yardage … When we absolutely, Positively need 1-2 Yds , we’re more likely to go Off Tackle or Pass it , Much to the chagrin of my “Chiefs’ Angst Ulcers ” … : (

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I never understood why Dontari Poe (maybe now Khalen Saunders?) wasn’t used in 1-2 yard situations more often. He was never stopped by a Defense that i can remember. Tackling a 300+ pound man who can run within 6 feet is tough.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Remember when we had garbage WRs? It’s nice to know that department has been rectified.

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)

FYI… Jets have fired their GM.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Lol. Even Bell couldn’t save his job!

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

That’s funny He finally got them a qb worth a shit. Has a good defense built up, and brought in Leveon. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them in 2nd in the division and if Brady regresses they might just win it.

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

The Champions don’t have a GM. Dallas doesn’t have a GM and they make the playoffs. Maybe the position is outdated.

Tyrone
Tyrone

He must have cut one of his players via voicemail while he was on his honeymoon/mismanaged the cap/had internal communication and management issues.

sydenham
sydenham

Is Harold Carmichael still around? Was he with Reid on the Iggles or before Reid? I’m thinking before Reid and it was Ron Jaworski tossing the ball to him.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

I think DK is overrated. He looks like a badass and probably is, but I dont think he will be a great WR.

01lowbird

Custis = DK Metcalf lite

ArrowheadRed
ArrowheadRed

I will be shocked if Custis makes this team.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Ehh, he’s a PS candidate.

I think it’s still Kemp’s job (#6 wr) till Hill returns.

Thompson, if he can get off at ALL versus NFL corners, is the Big we’ve been waiting for. Love this kid. TC/Preseason will tell us a lot.