Morning Huddle – Chiefs May Have Netted ‘First-Round’ Steal In Ogbah Trade

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Chiefs May Have Netted ‘First-Round’ Steal In Ogbah Trade | Forbes

He’s in the last year of his four-year, $6.6 million deal. An unrestricted free agent in 2020, he could cash in if he puts up big numbers for the Chiefs, particularly as a defensive end. (For example, that position had the second highest franchise tag value at $17.1 million this offseason.)

To make the big bucks, Ogbah will have to play like he did at Oklahoma State. The Big 12 Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, he recorded 16.5 tackles for loss, including 12.5 sacks, and three forced fumbles. As a sophomore the previous year, he had 10 sacks.

Who are analysts selecting at pick No. 29 for Chiefs ahead of 2019 NFL draft? | Chiefs Wire

Player & Position SchoolFrom
Rock Ya-Sin CBTemplePete Prisco – CBS Sports
Deandre Baker CBGeorgiaEric Edholm – Yahoo Sports
Johnathan Abram SMississippi StateConnor Orr – Sports Illustrated
Nasir Adderley SDelawareChris Trapasso – CBS Sports
Johnathan Abram SMississippi StateAdam Rank – NFL.com
Garrett Bradbury CNC StateCharlie Casserly – NFL.com
Garrett Bradbury CNC StateTodd McShay – ESPN
Marquise Brown WROklahomaLuke Easterling – Draft Wire
Devin Bush LBMichiganCharles Goldman – Chiefs Wire

Brett Veach needs to bring home a full draft class for Kansas City Chiefs | Arrowhead Addict

Here’s the thing about the Chiefs right now: for a team with championship hopes, they’re pretty thin all around. Right now the Chiefs have eight total picks heading into the draft. If Veach gives away a few extra—say three—the Chiefs are only coming home with a handful of prospects. That’s not good for a franchise that could use depth at multiple positions on both sides of the ball.

Right now, just on the offensive side, there’s good reason for the Chiefs to bring in more the one pick at wide receiver and tight end alone (unless you’re somehow really enamored with 
Blake Bell‘s recent signing). At the very least, the Chiefs would like to come home with 1 WR, 1 TE, 1 running back, a swing tackle, and an interior offensive lineman—just on the offensive side.

Chiefs pre-draft visit, private workout tracker | Chiefs Wire

The team can send coaches and scouts to locations to hold private workouts with draft prospects. These are entirely separate from pre-draft visits and don’t count toward the 30 allotted to the team. They typically are used to supplement combine workouts or pro day performances.

Below you’ll find our trackers for both pre-draft visits and workouts. We’ll continue to keep you updated as we learn of more visits and workouts ahead of the 2019 NFL draft.

Potential quarterback prospects for Chiefs in each round of 2019 NFL draft | Chiefs Wire

Round 3: Brett Rypien, Boise State
The ball placement award for the 2019 QB class goes to Rypien. He can fit a football in the smallest window with the best ball speed in this class, and he can put it where only his receiver has a chance at it. He’s also willing to hang in a collapsing pocket and deliver a strike. Making throws under pressure is one thing that translates to the NFL.

Rypien is also one of the most cerebral in this QB group because he’s been around the game his entire life. He’s the son of former Redskins Super Bowl champion QB Mark Rypien. It shows up often during his pocket presence and situational awareness. You just know that he’s been coached by a true professional.

Rypien will need refinement in the NFL and could be a good candidate to develop behind Mahomes.

NFL draft do-overs: Let’s re-pick … and fix mistakes for all 32 teams | NFL.com

Kansas City Chiefs
Second round of the 2017 draft (No. 59 overall)
Actual pick: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova
Do-over pick: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC

Kpassagnon contributed little in two seasons and was often a healthy scratch late last season. Had the Chiefs drafted Smith-Schuster, who went three picks later to the Steelers, they wouldn’t have needed to overpay for Sammy Watkinsin free agency the next year. Perhaps Kpassagnon’s career is revived by a switch from linebacker to his college position of defensive end this season, but he has looked like a lost pick so far. — Adam Teicher

Jaguars select Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes in ESPN 2017 draft do-over | Jaguars Wire

First round of the 2017 draft (No. 4 overall)
Actual pick: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
Do-over pick: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech

Blake Bortles was coming off a terrible season and new executive vice president of football ops Tom Coughlin could have hit the reset button on the position with the big-armed Mahomes. The Jaguars might not have made an appearance in the AFC title game that season (Fournette played a major role in that), but taking Mahomes (or Deshaun Watson) would have set up the franchise for long-term success. Plus, the Jaguars wouldn’t have signed Bortles to a four-year extension that February, a move that cost the team $16.5 million in dead money when it released him last month. Jacksonville wouldn’t have had to sign Nick Foles to a contract that averages $22.75 million a year, either. That money could have been used in free agency or to sign CB Jalen Ramsey and DE Yannick Ngakoue to extensions. — Mike DiRocco

Tyrann Mathieu says Russell Wilson ‘wants New York’ | Giants Wire

Despite the comments by both Schneider and Wilson, the speculation has persisted. And it regained some steam earlier this month when reports surfaced that Wilson wanted a new deal by April 15 or negotiations would stop until after the season.

With less than 24 hours remaining until that deadline, Kansas City Chiefs safety Tyrann Mathieu has suddenly weighed in, claiming Wilson does in fact want to play in New York.

While Mathieu does seem like an odd source of information on this story, he has repeatedly praised Wilson and the two appear to be quite friendly, so perhaps he’s more in the know than we realize?


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The complete destruction of the Steelers still makes me chuckle every time I watch it. Look when Mahomes releases the ball here. He knew.

Trying to figure out how to explain expected points added in 3 sentences or less in an article where I'm assuming people aren't familiar with the term like

I assume all of you know this, but @SharpFootball's site is unbelievably awesome to sift through contextual stats. Just wanted you to be aware in case you weren't.

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tsv0728
tsv0728

What is the point of a do-over draft in 2017 that has Pat going anywhere but first? I’m not sure exactly what their concept is, but if Pat isn’t the #1 overall, it’s a dumbass concept.

Tarkus

Worse is having a team pick him 4th.

4th.

Mitko
Mitko

So this happened at the sporting game last night:

Mitko
Mitko

tsv0728
tsv0728

Damn, right in the face. That’s brutal.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

So when will he be arrested? Thats clearly battery. Any normal citizen would be locked up for less.

KCChef
KCChef

I know it’s the Off season ,but, Re-posting the Re-Tweets for days on end feels like cheap filler … 1-2 days & Move on Please …
1) I don’t Tweet ,but , I appreciate being able to access relevant Tweets RE: The Chiefs / NFL News …
B) I’d rather see Less Content than stale content for content’s sake …
And Lastly ) You De-Value your fine research efforts w/ ad nauseum repetitions …All IMHO w/ the Caveat of Thanks for doing this Early & Often … : )

Tyrone
Tyrone

It’s just pulling whatever are the latest tweets from those particular Twitter feeds. If those people haven’t tweeted anything new since the previous day, it’s going to show you the same stuff.

Berserker
Berserker

Well, personally, I could do with less Russell Wilson news… Until something actually happens, I just don’t have any interest in that.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Just a few more hours and we’ll know the outcome, one way or the other.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810

With the disclaimer that *of course* Veach knows these prospects better than I do, I would be very unhappy if we went OL or WR with our Rd 1 pick. The Chiefs need to rebuild that defense to take advantage of Mahomes’ rookie contract. That’s not to say that I would completely ignore those positions later in the draft if the right player fell, but Rd 1 is too early IMO to be targeting positions of want over positions of need.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

What about TE if Hockenson falls?

Slayer0810
Slayer0810

That’s a hard one. I think if Veach believes Hockenson can be Kelce 2.0, he’s got to take him despite the needs on defense. While I do like Hockenson, I’m just not sure whether he’s that. But I’m not necessarily adamantly against it because I don’t have a strong gut feeling in either direction.

I do know that (IMO) there’s not a OL or WR who’s a sure-fire perennial All Pro or HOFer, so I wouldn’t be willing to take those positions Rd 1.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I don’t know that he’s Kelce 2.0, but he may be Kittle 2.0 and I’d take that.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810

Yeah, I think it would depend to me on who’s still on the board for DL/EDGE/CB/S. Silly and absurd example, but I wouldn’t take Hockensen over a Josh Allen if he somehow fell. But if I felt like the value wasn’t comparable for the other positions, I think Hockenson could be a really solid pick up for the offense.

4thQtrMagic
4thQtrMagic

I would rather have Ju Ju Smith Schuster over Kpass, even though WR is not a need.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810

Sure. But that’s not this year’s draft. The question is, would you take D.K. Metcalf/Hakeem Butler/A.J. Brown (some popular 1st or early 2nd round picks) over a Montez Sweat/Clelin Ferrell/Brian Burns? Two years from now, my answer with 20-20 vision might be “yes”. But as of today, I’d rather take a chance on the skills + potential impact of an EDGE player over any of those WR. Our Superbowl window is now: not in that we have to mortgage the future for the present, but in that we can’t waste the present trying to prepare for the future.

Slayer0810
Slayer0810

Though to be clear, I’m not necessarily advocating for EDGE over CB/S. Just that 4thQtrMagic’s scenario put a WR vs. an EDGE pick.

4thQtrMagic
4thQtrMagic

I am just saying the Chiefs will likely take the best player available. Who knows what their board looks like, so I could not speculate if that’s a Wr.
I am hoping for CB myself, with Edge a close 2nd.

Berserker
Berserker

Do you think the Chiefs would draft a QB at #29, if a QB was the best player available?

If not, then you’re already factoring some position-of-need thought into it. Which means you’re already somewhat assuming what their board looks like.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Also…have you guys seen these?

Tyrone
Tyrone

Horrendous

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

They are definitely not pleasing to the eye…woof.

kcfreak725
kcfreak725

Buncha Oregon wannabes…and they’re not even good at that

Mitko
Mitko

I don’t hate them tbh.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

The thought just dawned on me…is the draft on Thursday?

kcfreak725
kcfreak725

I feel like Tyreek Hill being at the Chiefs’ offseason program is a good sign.

Tyrone
Tyrone

https://www.chiefs.com/news/behind-the-lens-the-top-10-photos-of-2018-no-2

This was from one of the huddle tweets. Pretty cool series on the best photos of the season. The photographer talks about how the shot came to be and some of the technical aspects of it.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Why?

Potential quarterback prospects for Chiefs in each round of 2019 NFL draft | Chiefs Wire

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115

Because the Chiefs are paying Henne $4 million to give advice?

workingmansdead

Geez, I just looked that up. He should be cut. We could use the money elsewhere and if Mahomes goes down, we’re fucked anyway.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

Henne would hold his own for a week or two depending upon who we are playing.

workingmansdead

So would a QB that isn’t the highest paid backup in the league.

Tarkus

Mahomes had a historical season last year. I don’t know how much (if any) can be attributed to Henne’s veteran presence, but I see no reason to change it up this year.

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

We paid Berry 13 mil for advice last season

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

For two seasons, really.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

Literally, day-to-day advisory role. Chiefs deserve a refund!

Daniel Harms

Ogbah isn’t a starting caliber player…Just saying

Anthony Stratton

Didnt read the full article but if they’re saying he has the same potential as a 1st round pick would I could make a case for that.. As draft picks aren’t a guarantee of anything.

Otherwise…

Team Player
Team Player

He certainly hasn’t been so far. He did start but his performance hasn’t been at that level. But as a rotational piece he could be great

Edit: read the article. It’s about potential and being drafted 32 which in any other year would have been first round

Dave B.
Dave B.

Erving wasn’t, either. .. Just saying

4thQtrMagic
4thQtrMagic

Erving is alright.

Tarkus

Are you questioning Forbes’ football expertise?

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

You are forgetting the power of a contract year

BleedingRedAndGold

I found the AA draft-panic blurb so disappointing that I didn’t click through to protect the anonymity of the guilty. The blatant math fail of assigning 5 of 8 draft picks to the offense with the implication that the defense will need a similar amount isn’t just unrealistically demanding of Veach on his second draft, it’s mathematically unfeasible. Can’t be done, you cannot draft nine or ten players with only 8 draft picks and expect early contributions from all of them.

If AA isn’t embarrassed by that ridiculously panicky taek, then they probably are so clueless as to be embarrassingly ignorant of it. Not that they’d notice, were that the case. Regardless, looks like an exercise in making people dumber for fun and profit.

Anthony Stratton

Well gotta remember its just people no different than us who write those articles. Like everything else some are better than others.

Fire_FG_the_moron
Fire_FG_the_moron

Its like running web pages. Some are better than others, but still people.

Team Player
Team Player

Trade down for extra picks.

But I’d rather have 5 real contributors than 8-10 JAGs from the draft. UDFA can fill the gaps, especially at WR and RB which are deep classes

QuackTastic
QuackTastic

Seriously. Who’s sweating over backup WRs and RBs? A TE MAYBE, but I’m sure not panicking about it. The offense is fine.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115

As long as Mahomes is healthy, I’m not sweating anything on Offense. This guy gave Sherman career highlights and simultaneously made Al Wilson rich on a cold day in Denver in his very first NFL game. Patrick will probably make the playoffs every single season until he retires as a player.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

I was glad to see Albert doing it so well down in Miami before he got hurt. That direct snap on a fake punt in Atlanta was ridiculous.

StramtoReid
StramtoReid

I remember when we had one of the greatest O-lines in NFL history and with a blink of an eye it was gone.

I would pick the BPA, I would consider a #2 WR, O line, or T.E. I don’t want to pick an edge rusher or CB, if they can’t be a starter and make a difference.

Berserker
Berserker

Well, that great Oline faded so fast because it was so great… It’s hard to keep an assemblage of top players together for long. An average-good Oline is much easier to maintain.

Severely Concussed
Severely Concussed

I have been reading draft profiles extensively for months. I can get you 10 instant starters with only 8 picks.

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

I would say these extra positions will be what they most likely go after in the UDFA market.

Berserker
Berserker

I feel like you’re picking on a technicality deliberately to obscure the real point.

AA’s arithmetic aside, their sentiment isn’t wrong. Right now, this team needs a LOT from this draft.

Starting CB, starting LEO, starting S, starting MLB. There is no way, no way, a team can get all of those in one draft. And yet, right now, this team needs all of those.

I know I know, you’re gonna come with some line about “have faith in the progression of young players,” or some similar pollyanna type stuff. And if you’re determined to be satisfied with a starting lineup that includes Breeland, Ward, Ogbah, Sorensen, and Hitchens, on a team whose goal is the Superbowl….well, God help us all.

And then on offense, even though it’s in a great situation on the surface, we do have a star TE who seemingly needs surgery every single offseason. And a #2WR who seemingly can’t complete more than half of a regular season. And two good offensive tackles who have been extremely, unbelievably durable, and who are backed up by, well…. our starting LG, and nobody else, as far as I can tell. Oh, and we have Austin Reiter, so…… yay?

If Veach doesn’t get about 2-1/2 good drafts worth of work done between now and August, then we’re going to go into Season 3 of Mahomes’ rookie contract with some fairly fatal flaws on this team.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

The price of last offseason is the necessity that we stick a perfect landing in this one. The FA thought process was ok, but the end result has been underwhelming and we have quite a chunk of unused cap because of misreads on the Earl Thomas situation. I think we have to hope that Veach nails the draft and young players (KPass/Speaks/Nnadi/DOD/Ward/whoever the fuck is safety #2 pleasegoddontbesorensen) emerge as impact players.

Berserker
Berserker

Yeah, the Hitchens deal set us back. And, I mean….so GMs make mistakes, and that was just one mistake, from a true rookie GM yet. But man, the timing of that, to mess up the MLB position right when we’re in the middle of Mahomes’ rookie contract Superbowl window….damn.

So, anyway, gotta make up for that mistake. Plus the failure to field a #1 CB. And, it was probably also a mistake to ship off both Houston and Ford in the same offseason. So, yeah, gotta nail the draft, and hope for luck in FA, AND hope that an unrealistically high percentage of our new guys pan out.

Anthony Stratton

Next 10 days straight AG will be covering what this team really needs.

Stay tuned folks!

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

The defensive coaching soup has yet to be stirred into the mix. It’s all new so there will be a process, but I’m looking forward to the impact in scheme and attitude.

Berserker
Berserker

As much as I’ve gotten tired of hearing “we don’t need pass rushers…” I gotta admit, I am looking forward to a defense that might be able to get its pass rush a little more from good scheme and playcalling.

Although, I think we’ll need to add a better LB or two, and a better DB or two, to give Spags the freedom he needs to call effective blitzes.

Fans right now are all focused on how NE got pressure while only having Trey Flowers as a top edge rusher. What I think Chiefs fans are forgetting, or deliberately ignoring, is that NE also had LBs Hightower and Van Noy blitzing….and right now, we don’t have any LBs like that.

Tyrone
Tyrone

That draft do-over article. Two of the picks were for teams to take Pat and two were for teams to take Chris Jones. Realistically there should have been at least half a dozen teams that should have taken Pat before pick 10.

You can maybe give a pass to SF, TEN, and CAR cause they were all pretty committed to their QBs