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The Chiefs have now added Carlos Hyde, Tyrann Mathieu, Damien Williams Wilson and Alex Okafor. Will Ronald Darby be next? Stay tuned….maybe. Looks like its going to be a slow day.

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SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Day 5 really sucks.

hmills110
hmills110

LOL! Arrowheadpride fucked up my login. Guess I didn’t use ’em recently enough, so I’m totally done over there. Stuck with me, tats.

workingmansdead

Glad to have you again, Dr. Mills. Hope we’ve truly won your heart this time.

upamtn

welcometo the snark side … we have CBD cookies

SPI Chief
SPI Chief

Where…wait…wha…where?!?!?!

starry1
starry1

$7m seems like an awful lot for Tannehil as a backup.

wustl_chiefs_fan

Yeah, I’m stunned the Dolphins were able to trade him. That was an awesome deal for them.

wustl_chiefs_fan

In other news.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Didn’t we all

Tarkus

I didn’t. Not when I saw he was wanting to get paid more than Berry.

upamtn

yikes … glad we passed on him

Tyrone
Tyrone

Just when it was going to be a slow day…

wustl_chiefs_fan
wustl_chiefs_fan

Hill under investigation for battery.

Simtex
Simtex

against their Son. This could another Adrian Peterson and he left marks on the kid after spanking them.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Spankings don’t break arms.

upamtn

well, his next contract just got a whole lot smaller …

hmills110
hmills110

Looks like.

hmills110
hmills110

Yes. This sounds bad. Very sad.

wustl_chiefs_fan
TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Crap! Success can be a bitch to handle.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Welp Darby is going back to the Eagles

Simtex
Simtex

How did the internet speculate this for two days before its confirmed.

wustl_chiefs_fan

Simtex
Simtex

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

What if…

… the Chiefs were waiting until negotiations were done or broken off with Darby before releasing TM’s contract details?

Questions like this keep me on constant refresh

Simtex
Simtex

Chiefs brass must have a choke hold on KC area reporters. They won’t even say if he is still in the building.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a press pass? That’s the choke hold

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

(Of all the stupid crap I say, THIS gets a downvote? I’m rolling here 😂)

CHIEFSandSABRES

Lol I’ll make it two! Just to make you roll more!

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

👍

CHIEFSandSABRES

I took it back!

upamtn

anyone know what Houston’s ranking/rating/ability/efficiency was at stopping the run? for that matter, how was he as a “coverage linebacker” …

looks to my untrained eye that Veach and Spags want to stop the run first, and have a completely kickass Secondary to stop the pass … wholly independent of a pass rush (or lack thereof)

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Considering who the team to beat is (the Champions), this better not be the plan. We have to get to brady.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Brady didn’t beat the Chiefs. All of the body blows from the run game let him deliver the knockout

upamtn

^^^this

they brutalized us the last coupla drives

workingmansdead

Um, last I checked he completed like 5 passes on 3rd and 8-10 on the last drive or two. Just fucking demoralized us.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

After 75+ defensive snaps.

And as much as we all love to pile on Ford, it’s the little details that get sloppy when your fighting absolute exhaustion

hmills110
hmills110

I think Ford’s a fine player, but unless you’re gonna run that old Dave Adolph stuff from early Derrick Thomas days, with an OLB pass-rush specialist, who OCCASIONALLY does something other than rush the passer, he’s kind of neither fish nor fowl.

I’m gonna miss the 3-4, but Sutton never ran a very “multiple” version of it. It was either straight-up 3-4 or straight-up 4-3, with an undersized DE (Dee Ford) in passing situations. I don’t think they ever seemed to understand the talent they had and how to FEATURE the studs, rather than use the studs to mask all the non-studs. Run stunts to get Jones/Houston/Ford 1-on-1, rather than line them up and let the offense decide how to double our bad-asses, while leaving our 2nd-raters like Bailey to develop pressure off 1-on-1 blocking.

In the subs, making Houston and Ford both DEs really simplified matters for opposing offenses. You could see what was coming, play after play, just by scanning the formation and seeing who’s where, because Sutton wasn’t going to blitz, except on rare occasions. It generated sacks, because teams would just plan as though it’s one of those 80% of plays where he didn’t blitz. But those stats were very deceptive. They were gaudy, but overall the D was ineffective.

upamtn

that’s just it, though … not so sure that this (ie, stop run cold, shut down pass, forget about sacks) is a bad thing … Jones, Ford and Houston all got plenty of sacks in 2018, pressure on QB’s and whatnot, but what did it get the team in the end?

DonQuixote
DonQuixote

I had a similar idea earlier this week. Shutdown/tight coverage while stopping the run would be the way to stop the Patriots. Pressure up the middle would also help (doesn’t Spagnuolo use a lot of stunts?). It would also help to stop the run so teams cannot try to keep the Chiefs offense on the sideline and rule the TOP.

upamtn

yah … not gonna get to Brady in time with pressure, means you’re spending “stop the pass” bodies on “rush the passer” and that doesn’t work against the Pats (or Saints or any other team with a QB who gets the ball out very quickly)

it’s wasting Defensive “capital” that could be better spent on “pure pass defense”

hmills110
hmills110

I tend to disagree, old friend. Mathieu is key to the disagreement. Finally a DB who will scrap with ANYbody at the line of scrimmage. “Press” coverage when you’re bringing heat needs to include contact at the line, all up and down the line. I don’t care if the guy’s in motion at the snap or what, you’ve gotta have a defender primed to get their hands on him at the line of scrimmage. You HAVE to redirect EVERYBODY heading out for a pass inside the 5 yards. Not every down, but on most, and especially when you’ve got a pressure dialed up, because there’s nobody better than Brady (except maybe Mahomes) at seeing the free release and the soft spot in the D.

When you combine pressure up front with cowardice on the back end, you’re setting yourself up for failure. KC coaches have done that since Gunther Cunningham was DC. What’s the point in bringing pressure if you’re leaving the hot routes wide open when you bring it?

oof46
oof46

I don’t know how much of it was creative scheme, but I just know that the front 4 of the Giants hammered and pestered Brady when beating the Pats twice in the Super Bowl.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Daily TOP rant:

Time of possession only matters in the last four minutes of a game and last two minutes of the first half. For the other 54 minutes it’s about play count. Who cares how many clock ticks go between plays in those 54 minutes?

irafreak
irafreak

The offense cares. Hard to stay in rhythm when you’re on the bench for a half hour.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

That’s actual clock time not play clock time

It’s approximately 25-40 seconds between snaps in real clock time regardless of whether the play was a four yard run or an incomplete pass. But it’s about 30 seconds difference in play clock time.

DonQuixote
DonQuixote

Maybe I am thinking time of possession means something else but I can agree that snap count is a better indicator of how long a defense has been on the field. Though it’s not 1 to 1, snap count is pretty close to time of possession and I cannot find a place where it tells team snap counts per game without manually counting it per drive (I’m sure it’s out there, just not finding it right away). It’s not always close, but it is something to begin on.

I’ll give you that TOP is not that important since the Chiefs offense was scoring quickly and still put up a record number of points in a season. Chiefs were rather low in TOP per game and in checking a few game logs, they were losing TOP even when they won the games.

However, whether it was the Chiefs offense not moving the ball (or scoring too fast) or the Chiefs defense not forcing punts, TOP and snap counts heavily favored the Patriots in the two games last year.

Week 6
Chiefs: 23:51, 57 plays
Patriots: 36:09, 81 plays

Playoffs
Chiefs: 20:53, 48 plays
Patriots: 43:59, 94 plays

Thus, if the Chiefs defense could stop the run, they could help themselves not be on the field so many plays.

hmills110
hmills110

Destroy the middle and harass everybody outside. If you’re getting disruption all day long and shortening the QB’s alarm clock timer, you don’t NEED ANYBODY lined up 15 or 20 yards off the ball. Make everything either a stuffed run or a quick pass, and play accordingly on the back end of the D.

Leaf
Leaf

If there is one person I trust to know how to handle Brady it’s spags.

Kcrobwins
Kcrobwins

they are a power running team first.

Simtex
Simtex

wustl_chiefs_fan

Finally, why did this take so long?

So only $6 million cap hit this year right?

Kurdish_chief
Kurdish_chief

Yep. Let’s round 14.8M to 15M. 15/3 = 5M per yr.
Year 1 850k + 5M = 5.85M (exact figure is 5.783M)
Year 2 11.15 + 5M = 16.15M
Year 3 14.55M + 5M = 19.55M (14M saved if cut)

wustl_chiefs_fan

That’s a big cap hit in 2021, he may end up being a cap casualty.

Kurdish_chief
Kurdish_chief

He definitely will.
So it’s a 2yr 27M deal

jmgunn0124
jmgunn0124

I’m good with it

Simtex
Simtex

CHIEFSandSABRES

I thought he could have been a fit here for sure…

upamtn

Clowney? CLOWNEY?!? the team just dumped billions and billions of dollars and now they want to pick up Clowney? sure, let’s add the entire GNP of Jamaica to the payroll …

RDD India
RDD India

I just saw your tweet Tark. Do you know something more than we simpletons? Come on! Spill the beans man.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Did you really just ask Tark if he knows more than us?

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workingmansdead

No, he asked ups if Tark knows more than us.

upamtn

nah, he clearly asked Tark, which of course is a silly thing to ask to begin with … just a complete “reply fail” from a self-avowed “simpleton” is all (angelic smile)

Tarkus

What tweet? I don’t recall tweeting about Clowney.

upamtn

oh, so now you DENY it! 😉

Simtex
Simtex

Another one bites the dust

RDD India
RDD India

Seriously, how old is cromartie? Any treads left? Or just antique value?

CHIEFSandSABRES

Glad we passed on this dude.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

We should bring back Revis

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

He was an established veteran when Emmit Thomas was a rookie

EAFOX
EAFOX

Wonder if Thomas would sign on the cheap.

Tarkus

Redskins love to collect players in their 30s.

CHIEFSandSABRES

OT-got the results back and mom doesn’t have cancer! So still efff cancer! and the neighbor just walked down and gave me 3 free tickets to Monster Jam tonight! The kids are gunna flip. Great Red Friday!

starry1
starry1

CONGRATS!!! I just went through the same ordeal with my dad last fall, so I know how horrible it is and how awesome the good news feels.

CHIEFSandSABRES

We’ve all been on edge. It feels so good to finally know. Was supposed to find out yesterday, but they had to send stuff back to the lab. Being so far from home its been hard also. To not even be there to help out.

RDD India
RDD India

Yeah biopsy takes forever. Glad it turned out to be okay.

RDD India
RDD India

That’s great @ your mom. My mom fought and survived. Its better never to go through that ever.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Amen. Glad your mother fought it. My sister’s husbands mom just beat it. It was a great day of rejoicing!

RDD India
RDD India

Thanks. Now she’s so fit and fine. Both old timers are now enjoying life than ever. You be thankful to whomever you have to , to just see them happy and content now.
May be useful to you- I keep them undergoing health checkup every three months.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Yeah this was a scheduled exam my mom had, and they noticed the dreaded lump. She stays on top of it thankfully.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Hell yes!!!! Glad to hear it bro!!

CHIEFSandSABRES

You are telling me!

EAFOX
EAFOX

GREAT NEWS!!!

MasterChief
MasterChief

Man, I love to hear news like that! Now go give her the biggest hug ever!

CHIEFSandSABRES

I would if I could! I’m a couple states over.

TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Awesome! I’ve got a friend waiting on results. I’m sure she’d appreciate some prayers

Brylowman
Brylowman

Nacho sighting!

Tarkus

So whose is it?

MasterChief
MasterChief

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ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

I hope that Clowney rumor is true. I would GLADLY give up a first, 3rd and a second next year for him.

RDD India
RDD India

First? Second and third?
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ChiefDJ
ChiefDJ

No way. He’s a 9 sack guy that is going to require a huge contract. We just cut one and traded one of those for just a 2nd next year.
To give up what you’re suggesting would be asinine and should come with Veach’s firing if it were the case.

ForeverRanger91
ForeverRanger91

Clowney doesn’t have near the health issues outside of the same knee injury Kelce had as a rookie.

BoJest
BoJest

With those picks you could probable trade up this year for the best player going outside of the top 10 picks. Plus have them on the cheap and for 5 years.

ChiefDJ
ChiefDJ

Or sign 3 really good players.

workingmansdead

Insanity. One third at the most. Pure SEC homerism at its’ finest.

starry1
starry1

You must be joking. Yeah, he’s finally found his groove, but that doesn’t erase the horrific “injury” history. They don’t call him Vajayjaveon for nothing.

Kcrobwins
Kcrobwins

Im starting to get concerned that Veach only has scouts in Texas.

oof46
oof46

Every year seems to be the year he’s supposed to break out.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

Gross

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

LMAO…the downvotes abound!

KCChef
KCChef

Jared Cook >>> D. Weed Harris @ Prolly the same Cost …

RDD India
RDD India

I wouldn’t mind signing cook. What would dirty dan say to him when they meet first time in team meeting?

oof46
oof46

You dirty rat. You killed my brother.

Pelletman
Pelletman

Clayborn would be a nice addition. Patriots just released him, per request.

I think I saw one of our new DLine coaches was with him at New England.

He lead the league in pressures last season.

EDIT: Lead the league in pressure rate.

RDD India
RDD India

I think we make a move for him. Solely because of the coach connection. Would be great addition, hopefully for short duration and cheap. He’s got his rings though. What could be other motivation to sign with chiefs?

CHIEFSandSABRES

I would think they should give a look.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Clayborn and Okafor would be nice rotation.

Kurdish_chief
Kurdish_chief

Clayborn is awful.

Pelletman
Pelletman

Excellent argument.

ChiefArrowhead
ChiefArrowhead

Awfully decent?

KC15
KC15

Wish Darby would have worked out. 8 million for one year wouldn’t have been bad.

RDD India
RDD India

Yep. Even for 5 mil for one year would have been great.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Wait so he didn’t sign here?
Still nothing on Twitter.

KC15
KC15

I would think if he was going to it would have been done by now. Still a chance I guess.

RDD India
RDD India

No official or any confirmation. Just few rumours on twitter and some noise on fan site. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true.

CHIEFSandSABRES

They still could be checking him out. Veach had a couple pressers yesterday and stuff. Maybe all the medical stuff was yesterday, and hashing out the details is today. I’m still holding out hope.

RDD India
RDD India

Me too. Most of us are.
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CHIEFSandSABRES

Good movie.

RDD India
RDD India

yeah. The other one on similar lines was book Papillon.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Old enough and crotchety enough to say “the book was far better than the movie” but I’m admittedly not a big Dustin Hoffman fan

RDD India
RDD India

agreed. That was first book I got as a gift when I landed in US and was enrolled in school. The international student director handed me a copy. Interesting times. The personality I imagined was actually very same as that of actual Henri C. Smh.